accelerator cable stopper

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Thanks for sharing your experience Bill. 
I think I have one of these from 5 years back also, It is about 3 inches short. At the time I thought it was my fault so said nothing about it.
I have located a replacement in Perth but it is 150 longer. does anyone know if that would work, or would it be too long and not keep tension?  Greg



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Hi Bill, Greg and All,

This subject in the past usually opened up a pandoras box concerning identifying/sourcing the correct RHD cable.
When I last searched for a replacement, I found NO retailer from USA had a listing for nor supply of the correct RHD accelerator cable 252 721 555R. So let the buyer beware, any cable coming from USA will end up the wrong cable.
   
Bill is correct. The correct cable was initially hard to source from Just Kampers Australia. After being supplied with the wrong cable myself from JK OZ in 2011, I ended up having to visit JK in Sydney to get them to physically double check their inventory of cables until finally, they produced the correct cable, mainly because I had my old cable with me to compare. Turned out the correct cable was in a wrongly labelled package showing wrong JK parts description and VAG part number ... but showing  the correct JK part number .... J10232. Go figure!
See the pic of JK sticker showing incorrect part description AND incorrect part number that was on the GEMO packaging for what turned out to be the correct cable. No wonder we had trouble sourcing it from JK.

Looking today at JK OZ website, they seem to have fixed their part description and VAG part number for the correct RHD cable ... albeit they have jacked up the price. In 2011 I paid $23 for it, I see the syncro one is now $40.60 as follows:

For those wanting to understand the different cables out there for  T3 variants, see the the attached ETKA schematic and parts list. It also shows the cable lengths of each variant cable.

Also see the other attached pics that may be helpful. The part number stamped on the black cable shroud of the first pic was on the correct cable, the latter pic shows the part number on the black cable shroud for the incorrectly supplied cable. Those black cable shrouds were also different in length.

Finally, I see JK OZ also has in stock the accelerator cable fastening bolt .... amazing that! :

Cheers.
Ken




 


To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 16:33:29 -0700
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] accelerator cable stopper

 
Greg. About 5 years ago i broke a cable between charleville and longreach outback qld. Was passing a 3 dog roadtrain when it let go. Very scary. Anyway contacted this forum for help from side of road. Advice poured in which was great. Ordered a cable from tooleys to be collected in charleville. Whilst waiting went into a bike shop and bought 6 m inner cable and a few cable clamps. Left the old cable in place and withdrew the inner. Fed the bike cable through and bingo back on road. When the cable arrived from tooleys it had the wrong fittings. Tooleys insisted it was correct. It wasn't. Ordered cable from justkampers sydney. It was short a few inches like yours. Justkampers insisted it was correct. It wasn't. At this point i measured the old cable and ordered a cable from just kampers that size. From memory i still needed to swap an end fitting to get it to work. We discussed this on the forum at the time. I think those archives are now lost? Anyway it appeared the vw part no for the syncro were wrong. The solution is measure your old cable, ring a supplier( tooleys, justkampers) get them to measure cables they have whilst on phone and describe the end fittings. Sorry about long winded reply but this panned out for a year ( whilst i drove around using bicycle cable inner). The bike cable and clamps are still under the seat for spare. Pretty sure there is a mix with cable part no's. Bill
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Greg. Ken has nailed it. I'd go for the now confirmed correct cable from just kampers according to Kens research. Thought at the time you were involved unravelling this mystery. Thanks Ken. Bill
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Thanks Bill and Ken for your help. regards Greg N
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Finally, I see JK OZ also has in stock the accelerator cable fastening bolt .... amazing that! :

That's a Beetle one.
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Seven years later, I’m reviving this thread in which I identified the correct accelerator cable locally sourced from Just Kampers … that had mislabelled/misidentified the correct cable package … hence why they and us could not find it, causing so much ongoing confusion.

So once again, for anyone who’s replaced or needing to replace a defective/worn accelerator cable, I’ve identified there exists another part that’s critical and should also be installed at the same time, this part is (surprise surprise!), incorrectly/inadequatly described by Just Kampers!

So with that as a clue, for all the desk jockeys here, here’s a wet weekend covid lockdown challenge.
I know the part, but who else here can research and identify this critical other part and report back here?

Have fun!

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Too much effort for me…I would probably doctor something up to make it work :slight_smile: :thinking:

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So Scott, then to start with …
What might that part be, you’re inclined instead to “dodgy up”?

But that’s ok.
Statistically, by my estimation of 106 members, I’d envisage and be more than happy with, a positive response to my challenge of as many as TWO.

Who’s up for it? The challenge is LIVE! :grinning: :upside_down_face:

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Well Ken. It can only be at either end. Pedal end has a ball from memory so that’s ok. Looking at mine it seems to be modified in some way. I have replaced the cable once. Had to cut the end I think. Hmmmm. Peter

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HA!
Well well well, who’d have thought.
So appears the Dodgy Bros have now reincarnated into you and Scott!!!
The correct accelerator cable does not have a ball end at any end.
Back to the drawing board fellas. Keep rattlin’ those brain cells.

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Ken,

Which one of these items are you talking about - the number 5 small pin that sleeves over the cable end and is fixed by a grub screw usually. Well it is in bays.

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No can do that Scott.
My challenge is for you guys to research which other part is critical to the accelerator cable and report back here your finding.

I’ll give an extra clue though, it should help speed up a correct answer and why it’s “critical”, to become clearer:
Compare the correct GEMO replacement accelerator cable you’ve installed and/or have a spare of, with Scott’s supplied schematic. What do you see on one and not the other?

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Are you referring to this 1982 -1992 RHD accelerator cable by Gemo?

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Without a part number, looks about right.

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Yay, …the forum is up and running again.

Ken are you referring to the lack of barb to the end of the accelerator cable compared to the schematic?

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Yes I believe it was time change related, causing a sync issue with logged in web browser sessions.

A server reboot did the trick.

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Sounds a bit kinky there Scott.
Who’s barb and why do you need her attached to the end of the accelerator cable?

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Barb is everyone’s friend - she stops all leaks and prevents losing items off the ends of cables

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It’s time enough now to have found two winners, I declare my challenge has now expired.
Enjoy.

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Interesting topic Ken :slight_smile: Sorry I missed the challenge. I seem to be challenged for time (still) these days!
Looking through my box of bits a while ago, I did end up with a LHD spare cable. in a pinch it would not be difficult to adapt for RHD use (just one section is longer).
I also purchased some time ago a few boots/grommets to seal where the rod passes through the floor, but none have appear to be a good fix, plus access to that point (under the accelerator pedal) is very limited.
So I have not solved this puzzle yet!