engineers

21
Ben,
 
Let us know where you find a suitable BMW booster.
 
Be great to know exactly which model suits as you may be able to get an aftermarket copy of the correct one new.
 
Thanks,
 
Skot
 
----- Original Message -----
From: bencroft96
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 1:42 PM
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: improved braking

 

Hart,yes from a BMW.I am chasing one down now.

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Hartmut Kiehn" <hartis@...> wrote:
>
> Ben, the booster to use is one from BMW been told it's an easy swap, but I
> have not done it yet, slakko me. Hart
>
>
>
> From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of bencroft96
> Sent: Wednesday, 7 July 2010 1:23 PM
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] improved braking
>
>
>
>
>
> Hey Hey,been on the phone to some interesting people today.
> Had an interesting conversation with one,concearning improved braking with
> my Syncro/Subaru conversion.
> He says that replacing the VW brake booster with a bigger one from another
> manufacturer improves Syncro brakes by far.This interests me.
> It is something that is not needed for the engineers certificate but the
> engineer gave me the contact and idea.
> Has anyone else done this or knows about this.This is something that will
> interest a few of you with VW or other engines.When I learn more,I will pass
> it on.
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com> , "Mr Scott Pitcher"
> <spbconsulting@> wrote:
> >
> > Sounds good Ben.
> >
> > Let me know how it all goes.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: bencroft96
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 10:46 AM
> > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: engineers
> >
> >
> >
> > Talked to a guy in Canterbury(some fully sic cars down there),told me to
> put the engine in,use a Subaru cat(not an aftermarket one),make an
> appointment,drive down and see him.No pre-inspection required,as he has
> engineered a few sent to him from Wolksberg.
> >
> > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com> , "bencroft96" <bencroft96@>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Scott,Kevin is busy,and told me to find someone in Sydney.
> > >
> > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com> , "Mr Scott Pitcher"
> <spbconsulting@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Ben,
> > > >
> > > > This is Gods Country up here and unlike many places, we don't charge
> admission. The F3 is toll free (well at the moment anyway). Well worth a
> visit. Just watch out for that shady bloke called Ken!
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > >
> > > > Scott
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: bencroft96
> > > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 9:52 AM
> > > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: engineers
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Scott,Kevin is the guy who other guys I know who have put Subaru
> motors in Beetles used and recomend.The problem is he is up your way.Will
> give him a call,sus it out.
> > > >
> > > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com> , "Mr Scott Pitcher"
> <spbconsulting@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Ben,
> > > > >
> > > > > I haven't done it yet as I need to find a few hours to make my
> fridge cupboard and install it so that he can engineer the syncro as a
> camper. Better to do it all at once than pay for 2 reports.
> > > > >
> > > > > I understand the reports are around $400 ish, then you need a blue
> slip, a weigh bridge certificate and then the RTA starts charging you to
> change over details (in your case engine numbers etc). Sounds like a painful
> but necessary process.
> > > > >
> > > > > Engineers details are as follows:
> > > > >
> > > > > Mr Kevin Humphrey
> > > > > Lakesedge Engineering
> > > > > 4 Willow Tree Road,
> > > > > Wyong NSW 2259
> > > > >
> > > > > Ph: 4353 0866
> > > > >
> > > > > Apparently Kevin is a reasonable bloke to deal with as long as you
> have all your pollution control hooked up and the work is neat - you
> shouldn't have any problems with him. He actually did the engineering
> certificate in an engine swap I did in a Mitsubishi L300 van about 20 years
> ago.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best of luck.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > >
> > > > > Scott
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: bencroft96
> > > > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 9:19 AM
> > > > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] engineers
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Scott,can you give me the details of the engineer that engineered
> your bus(is he in Wyong?)
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

22
Scott,see previous posts.Dont have the company name,just the number.Have already spoken to Steve.

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Mr Scott Pitcher" <spbconsulting@...> wrote:
>
> Ben,
>
> Let us know where you find a suitable BMW booster.
>
> Be great to know exactly which model suits as you may be able to get an aftermarket copy of the correct one new.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Skot
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: bencroft96
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 1:42 PM
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: improved braking
>
>
>
> Hart,yes from a BMW.I am chasing one down now.
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Hartmut Kiehn" <hartis@> wrote:
> >
> > Ben, the booster to use is one from BMW been told it's an easy swap, but I
> > have not done it yet, slakko me. Hart
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of bencroft96
> > Sent: Wednesday, 7 July 2010 1:23 PM
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] improved braking
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hey Hey,been on the phone to some interesting people today.
> > Had an interesting conversation with one,concearning improved braking with
> > my Syncro/Subaru conversion.
> > He says that replacing the VW brake booster with a bigger one from another
> > manufacturer improves Syncro brakes by far.This interests me.
> > It is something that is not needed for the engineers certificate but the
> > engineer gave me the contact and idea.
> > Has anyone else done this or knows about this.This is something that will
> > interest a few of you with VW or other engines.When I learn more,I will pass
> > it on.
> >
> > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com> , "Mr Scott Pitcher"
> > <spbconsulting@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Sounds good Ben.
> > >
> > > Let me know how it all goes.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Scott
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: bencroft96
> > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 10:46 AM
> > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: engineers
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Talked to a guy in Canterbury(some fully sic cars down there),told me to
> > put the engine in,use a Subaru cat(not an aftermarket one),make an
> > appointment,drive down and see him.No pre-inspection required,as he has
> > engineered a few sent to him from Wolksberg.
> > >
> > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com> , "bencroft96" <bencroft96@>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Scott,Kevin is busy,and told me to find someone in Sydney.
> > > >
> > > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com> , "Mr Scott Pitcher"
> > <spbconsulting@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Ben,
> > > > >
> > > > > This is Gods Country up here and unlike many places, we don't charge
> > admission. The F3 is toll free (well at the moment anyway). Well worth a
> > visit. Just watch out for that shady bloke called Ken!
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > >
> > > > > Scott
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: bencroft96
> > > > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 9:52 AM
> > > > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: engineers
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Scott,Kevin is the guy who other guys I know who have put Subaru
> > motors in Beetles used and recomend.The problem is he is up your way.Will
> > give him a call,sus it out.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com> , "Mr Scott Pitcher"
> > <spbconsulting@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ben,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I haven't done it yet as I need to find a few hours to make my
> > fridge cupboard and install it so that he can engineer the syncro as a
> > camper. Better to do it all at once than pay for 2 reports.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I understand the reports are around $400 ish, then you need a blue
> > slip, a weigh bridge certificate and then the RTA starts charging you to
> > change over details (in your case engine numbers etc). Sounds like a painful
> > but necessary process.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Engineers details are as follows:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mr Kevin Humphrey
> > > > > > Lakesedge Engineering
> > > > > > 4 Willow Tree Road,
> > > > > > Wyong NSW 2259
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ph: 4353 0866
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Apparently Kevin is a reasonable bloke to deal with as long as you
> > have all your pollution control hooked up and the work is neat - you
> > shouldn't have any problems with him. He actually did the engineering
> > certificate in an engine swap I did in a Mitsubishi L300 van about 20 years
> > ago.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best of luck.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Scott
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: bencroft96
> > > > > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 9:19 AM
> > > > > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] engineers
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Scott,can you give me the details of the engineer that engineered
> > your bus(is he in Wyong?)
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
23
Hi Les,
Sorry I have been offline most of the day today. Best place to get info on converting a standard T3 Syncro is Davdi Marshall's site in Canada. Here's the link:
Keep in mind that Yurik's modification is for Syncro 16's as mine. Our steering knuckle (aka suspension upright is designed to push out the standard T3 calipers to clear the larger 276mm disc from used on the Syncro 16. If you use the 276mm or 288mm Audi 200/100/5000 Discs, the brake pads will sit 13mm off the edge of the disc. For Syncro 16 owners, we simply move up to the Mercedes ML320-ML350 discs which are 303mm or the VW-Audi 312mm rotors.
Calipers are dual-pistons form the same Audi 200/100/5000 series as mentioned in David's article. As Ben Croft just posted, there is a carrier which not require machining. They are for single piston calipers. Overland in California claims they are proprietary design but close examination suggest they are nothing more than the carriers from the SA big brakes (276mm) with a Audi A6 caliper. In the end the larger diameter discs give you better braking via larger swept area. With the dual -pistons, you get better pedal feel as well.
Booster comes from any e30 BMW. In the US that is 1984-1991. My former e30 was an 83 323i which had the same booster. Cost in the US range from $50-$150 used.
Don't forget the 14" wheels will not fit these brakes. There are some minor corrections concerning spacers for the calipers in David's site. Email me if you decide to go this route. My total cost was less than half the commercially available kits.
BenT


On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 8:54 PM, Les Harris <leslieharris@optusnet.com.au> wrote:


Hartmut,

From memory, Yurik’s conversion was comprehensive and would have included a matched booster. He has mentioned his conversion previously but probably not in full detail. It will be worth asking him for a detailed description.

Ben,

There are conversions that require some machining and some that are bolt-on. Ben Tan in the US has good knowledge of what is available and might be good enough to share it with us. Ben posted detailed information some time ago but it would take some searching to find it in the archives.

Les

24

Ben,

Many thanks.  This is the information that will help everyone now looking into bigger brakes.

Les

 

 

 

25
Be careful as these kits do not fit all 15" wheels.



> Ken Garratt <unclekenz@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Les,
>
>
>
> Something like these for 15" rims ...
>
>
>
> Goto:
> http://www.gowesty.com/ec_view_details.php?id=23124&category_id=71&catego
> ry_parent_id=
>
>
>
> Goto:
> http://www.smallcar.com/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=29928
>
>
>
>
> Ok for you Les, you own a gold mine ... damn your good fortune!
>
>
>
> Cheers.
>
> Ken
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> From: leslieharris@optusnet.com.au
> Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 13:54:20 +1000
> Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] improved braking
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hartmut,
>
> From memory, Yurik���s conversion was comprehensive and would have
> included a matched booster. He has mentioned his conversion previously
> but probably not in full detail. It will be worth asking him for a
> detailed description.
>
> Ben,
> There are conversions that require some machining and some that are
> bolt-on. Ben Tan in the US has good knowledge of what is available and
> might be good enough to share it with us. Ben posted detailed
> information some time ago but it would take some searching to find it in
> the archives.
> Les
>
>
>
>
> From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Hartmut Kiehn
> Sent: 07 July 2010 13:47
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] improved braking
>
>
>
>
> Hi Les, I have used a Bernd Jaeger Audi assembly and gone to 16��� rims,
> but 15��� would do also. Braking has not improved though, in fact just
> passed the pink slip test with 53%. What is missing is the booster. Will
> look into that one. Hart
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> If It Exists, You'll Find it on SEEK. Australia's #1 job site
> http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/
26
BenT,Bonza info.Looks like the ducks nuts.On to it now. who roo.


--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Les Harris" <leslieharris@...> wrote:
>
> Ben,
>
> Many thanks. This is the information that will help everyone now looking
> into bigger brakes.
>
> Les
>
27

This is true.  They would not fit my 15” wheels for example because they were manufactured by fitting the existing 14” centres to a deep well 15” rim.  As Phill points out, any proposed calliper would have to be checked against the rim in use.

Les

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of plander@optusnet.com.au
Sent: 07 July 2010 14:58
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] improved braking

 

Be careful as these kits do not fit all 15" wheels.

 

 

 

28
Worse than that, Les. Some of the calipers have rough edges on the castings the point of interfering with the  rim. Grinding was necessary of one set a friend of mine got from Small Car. Ruined the nice cad-plating. Not that the cad-plating will last even unmolested. Paint is your best friend.


BenT 

Sent from my mobile device

On Jul 6, 2010, at 10:14 PM, "Les Harris" <leslieharris@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

This is true.  They would not fit my 15” wheels for example because they were manufactured by fitting the existing 14” centres to a deep well 15” rim.  As Phill points out, any proposed calliper would have to be checked against the rim in use.

Les

 

29
Ben T,
 
Is there a great deal involved in changing over from a VW booster to a BMW booster - especially seeing the booster is inside the dash?
 
Do you have any steps for the replacement of the booster set-up or any helpful tips?
 
Thanks,
 
Skot.
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] improved braking

 

Hi Les,
 
Sorry I have been offline most of the day today. Best place to get info on converting a standard T3 Syncro is Davdi Marshall's site in Canada. Here's the link:
 
 
 
Keep in mind that Yurik's modification is for Syncro 16's as mine. Our steering knuckle (aka suspension upright is designed to push out the standard T3 calipers to clear the larger 276mm disc from used on the Syncro 16. If you use the 276mm or 288mm Audi 200/100/5000 Discs, the brake pads will sit 13mm off the edge of the disc. For Syncro 16 owners, we simply move up to the Mercedes ML320- ML350 discs which are 303mm or the VW-Audi 312mm rotors.
 
Calipers are dual-pistons form the same Audi 200/100/5000 series as mentioned in David's article. As Ben Croft just posted, there is a carrier which not require machining. They are for single piston calipers. Overland in California claims they are proprietary design but close examination suggest they are nothing more than the carriers from the SA big brakes (276mm) with a Audi A6 caliper. In the end the larger diameter discs give you better braking via larger swept area. With the dual -pistons, you get better pedal feel as well.
 
Booster comes from any e30 BMW. In the US that is 1984-1991. My former e30 was an 83 323i which had the same booster. Cost in the US range from $50-$150 used. 
 
Don't forget the 14" wheels will not fit these brakes. There are some minor corrections concerning spacers for the calipers in David's site. Email me if you decide to go this route. My total cost was less than half the commercially available kits.
 
 
 
BenT


 
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 8:54 PM, Les Harris <leslieharris@ optusnet. com.au> wrote:


Hartmut,

From memory, Yurik’s conversion was comprehensive and would have included a matched booster.  He has mentioned his conversion previously but probably not in full detail.  It will be worth asking him for a detailed description.

 

Ben,

There are conversions that require some machining and some that are bolt-on.  Ben Tan in the US has good knowledge of what is available and might be good enough to share it with us.  Ben posted detailed information some time ago but it would take some searching to find it in the archives.

Les

 

30
Skot,

I am away for a late night snack (it's 11:13pm here). Will get back to you with details when I'm near my laptop.


BenT

Sent from my dinnerplate

On Jul 6, 2010, at 11:02 PM, "Mr Scott Pitcher" <spbconsulting@bigpond.com> wrote:

Ben T,
 
Is there a great deal involved in changing over from a VW booster to a BMW booster - especially seeing the booster is inside the dash?
 
Do you have any steps for the replacement of the booster set-up or any helpful tips?
 
Thanks,
 
Skot.
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] improved braking

 

Hi Les,
 
Sorry I have been offline most of the day today. Best place to get info on converting a standard T3 Syncro is Davdi Marshall's site in Canada. Here's the link:
 
http://www.syncro. ca/tech/audibrak es.htm
 
 
Keep in mind that Yurik's modification is for Syncro 16's as mine. Our steering knuckle (aka suspension upright is designed to push out the standard T3 calipers to clear the larger 276mm disc from used on the Syncro 16. If you use the 276mm or 288mm Audi 200/100/5000 Discs, the brake pads will sit 13mm off the edge of the disc. For Syncro 16 owners, we simply move up to the Mercedes ML320- ML350 discs which are 303mm or the VW-Audi 312mm rotors.
 
Calipers are dual-pistons form the same Audi 200/100/5000 series as mentioned in David's article. As Ben Croft just posted, there is a carrier which not require machining. They are for single piston calipers. Overland in California claims they are proprietary design but close examination suggest they are nothing more than the carriers from the SA big brakes (276mm) with a Audi A6 caliper. In the end the larger diameter discs give you better braking via larger swept area. With the dual -pistons, you get better pedal feel as well.
 
Booster comes from any e30 BMW. In the US that is 1984-1991. My former e30 was an 83 323i which had the same booster. Cost in the US range from $50-$150 used. 
 
Don't forget the 14" wheels will not fit these brakes. There are some minor corrections concerning spacers for the calipers in David's site. Email me if you decide to go this route. My total cost was less than half the commercially available kits.
 
 
 
BenT


 
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 8:54 PM, Les Harris <leslieharris@ optusnet.com.au> wrote:


Hartmut,

From memory, Yurik’s conversion was comprehensive and would have included a matched booster.  He has mentioned his conversion previously but probably not in full detail.  It will be worth asking him for a detailed description.

 

Ben,

There are conversions that require some machining and some that are bolt-on.  Ben Tan in the US has good knowledge of what is available and might be good enough to share it with us.  Ben posted detailed information some time ago but it would take some searching to find it in the archives.

Les

 

31

Thanx
 
Skot
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 4:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] improved braking

 

Skot,

I am away for a late night snack (it's 11:13pm here). Will get back to you with details when I'm near my laptop.


BenT

Sent from my dinnerplate

On Jul 6, 2010, at 11:02 PM, "Mr Scott Pitcher" <spbconsulting@ bigpond.com> wrote:

Ben T,
 
Is there a great deal involved in changing over from a VW booster to a BMW booster - especially seeing the booster is inside the dash?
 
Do you have any steps for the replacement of the booster set-up or any helpful tips?
 
Thanks,
 
Skot.
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] improved braking

 

Hi Les,
 
Sorry I have been offline most of the day today. Best place to get info on converting a standard T3 Syncro is Davdi Marshall's site in Canada. Here's the link:
 
http://www.syncro. ca/tech/audibrak es.htm
 
 
Keep in mind that Yurik's modification is for Syncro 16's as mine. Our steering knuckle (aka suspension upright is designed to push out the standard T3 calipers to clear the larger 276mm disc from used on the Syncro 16. If you use the 276mm or 288mm Audi 200/100/5000 Discs, the brake pads will sit 13mm off the edge of the disc. For Syncro 16 owners, we simply move up to the Mercedes ML320- ML350 discs which are 303mm or the VW-Audi 312mm rotors.
 
Calipers are dual-pistons form the same Audi 200/100/5000 series as mentioned in David's article. As Ben Croft just posted, there is a carrier which not require machining. They are for single piston calipers. Overland in California claims they are proprietary design but close examination suggest they are nothing more than the carriers from the SA big brakes (276mm) with a Audi A6 caliper. In the end the larger diameter discs give you better braking via larger swept area. With the dual -pistons, you get better pedal feel as well.
 
Booster comes from any e30 BMW. In the US that is 1984-1991. My former e30 was an 83 323i which had the same booster. Cost in the US range from $50-$150 used. 
 
Don't forget the 14" wheels will not fit these brakes. There are some minor corrections concerning spacers for the calipers in David's site. Email me if you decide to go this route. My total cost was less than half the commercially available kits.
 
 
 
BenT


 
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 8:54 PM, Les Harris <leslieharris@ optusnet.com.au> wrote:


Hartmut,

From memory, Yurik’s conversion was comprehensive and would have included a matched booster.  He has mentioned his conversion previously but probably not in full detail.  It will be worth asking him for a detailed description.

 

Ben,

There are conversions that require some machining and some that are bolt-on.  Ben Tan in the US has good knowledge of what is available and might be good enough to share it with us.  Ben posted detailed information some time ago but it would take some searching to find it in the archives.

Les

 

32
Scott,google bmw e30 brake booster vw t25.
BenT, is this correct?

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Mr Scott Pitcher" <spbconsulting@...> wrote:
>
> Ben T,
>
> Is there a great deal involved in changing over from a VW booster to a BMW booster - especially seeing the booster is inside the dash?
>
> Do you have any steps for the replacement of the booster set-up or any helpful tips?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Skot.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: BenT Syncro
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 2:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] improved braking
>
>
>
>
> Hi Les,
>
> Sorry I have been offline most of the day today. Best place to get info on converting a standard T3 Syncro is Davdi Marshall's site in Canada. Here's the link:
>
> http://www.syncro.ca/tech/audibrakes.htm
>
>
> Keep in mind that Yurik's modification is for Syncro 16's as mine. Our steering knuckle (aka suspension upright is designed to push out the standard T3 calipers to clear the larger 276mm disc from used on the Syncro 16. If you use the 276mm or 288mm Audi 200/100/5000 Discs, the brake pads will sit 13mm off the edge of the disc. For Syncro 16 owners, we simply move up to the Mercedes ML320-ML350 discs which are 303mm or the VW-Audi 312mm rotors.
>
> Calipers are dual-pistons form the same Audi 200/100/5000 series as mentioned in David's article. As Ben Croft just posted, there is a carrier which not require machining. They are for single piston calipers. Overland in California claims they are proprietary design but close examination suggest they are nothing more than the carriers from the SA big brakes (276mm) with a Audi A6 caliper. In the end the larger diameter discs give you better braking via larger swept area. With the dual -pistons, you get better pedal feel as well.
>
> Booster comes from any e30 BMW. In the US that is 1984-1991. My former e30 was an 83 323i which had the same booster. Cost in the US range from $50-$150 used.
>
> Don't forget the 14" wheels will not fit these brakes. There are some minor corrections concerning spacers for the calipers in David's site. Email me if you decide to go this route. My total cost was less than half the commercially available kits.
>
>
>
> BenT
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 8:54 PM, Les Harris <leslieharris@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Hartmut,
>
> From memory, Yurik's conversion was comprehensive and would have included a matched booster. He has mentioned his conversion previously but probably not in full detail. It will be worth asking him for a detailed description.
>
>
>
> Ben,
>
> There are conversions that require some machining and some that are bolt-on. Ben Tan in the US has good knowledge of what is available and might be good enough to share it with us. Ben posted detailed information some time ago but it would take some searching to find it in the archives.
>
> Les
>
33
Thanx Ben C.
----- Original Message -----
From: bencroft96
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 4:16 PM
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: improved braking

 

Scott,google bmw e30 brake booster vw t25.
BenT, is this correct?

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Mr Scott Pitcher" <spbconsulting@...> wrote:
>
> Ben T,
>
> Is there a great deal involved in changing over from a VW booster to a BMW booster - especially seeing the booster is inside the dash?
>
> Do you have any steps for the replacement of the booster set-up or any helpful tips?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Skot.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: BenT Syncro
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 2:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] improved braking
>
>
>
>
> Hi Les,
>
> Sorry I have been offline most of the day today. Best place to get info on converting a standard T3 Syncro is Davdi Marshall's site in Canada. Here's the link:
>
> http://www.syncro.ca/tech/audibrakes.htm
>
>
> Keep in mind that Yurik's modification is for Syncro 16's as mine. Our steering knuckle (aka suspension upright is designed to push out the standard T3 calipers to clear the larger 276mm disc from used on the Syncro 16. If you use the 276mm or 288mm Audi 200/100/5000 Discs, the brake pads will sit 13mm off the edge of the disc. For Syncro 16 owners, we simply move up to the Mercedes ML320-ML350 discs which are 303mm or the VW-Audi 312mm rotors.
>
> Calipers are dual-pistons form the same Audi 200/100/5000 series as mentioned in David's article. As Ben Croft just posted, there is a carrier which not require machining. They are for single piston calipers. Overland in California claims they are proprietary design but close examination suggest they are nothing more than the carriers from the SA big brakes (276mm) with a Audi A6 caliper. In the end the larger diameter discs give you better braking via larger swept area. With the dual -pistons, you get better pedal feel as well.
>
> Booster comes from any e30 BMW. In the US that is 1984-1991. My former e30 was an 83 323i which had the same booster. Cost in the US range from $50-$150 used.
>
> Don't forget the 14" wheels will not fit these brakes. There are some minor corrections concerning spacers for the calipers in David's site. Email me if you decide to go this route. My total cost was less than half the commercially available kits.
>
>
>
> BenT
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 8:54 PM, Les Harris <leslieharris@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Hartmut,
>
> From memory, Yurik's conversion was comprehensive and would have included a matched booster. He has mentioned his conversion previously but probably not in full detail. It will be worth asking him for a detailed description.
>
>
>
> Ben,
>
> There are conversions that require some machining and some that are bolt-on. Ben Tan in the US has good knowledge of what is available and might be good enough to share it with us. Ben posted detailed information some time ago but it would take some searching to find it in the archives.
>
> Les
>

34
Try Herman's blog. Second paragraph:

http://vanagonsyncroproject-herman.blogspot.com/


BenT

Sent from my small booster

On Jul 6, 2010, at 11:16 PM, "bencroft96" <bencroft96@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Scott,google bmw e30 brake booster vw t25.
> BenT, is this correct?
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Mr Scott Pitcher"
> <spbconsulting@...> wrote:
>>
>> Ben T,
>>
>> Is there a great deal involved in changing over from a VW booster
>> to a BMW booster - especially seeing the booster is inside the dash?
>>
>> Do you have any steps for the replacement of the booster set-up or
>> any helpful tips?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Skot.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: BenT Syncro
>> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 2:34 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] improved braking
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Les,
>>
>> Sorry I have been offline most of the day today. Best place to get
>> info on converting a standard T3 Syncro is Davdi Marshall's site in
>> Canada. Here's the link:
>>
>> http://www.syncro.ca/tech/audibrakes.htm
>>
>>
>> Keep in mind that Yurik's modification is for Syncro 16's as mine.
>> Our steering knuckle (aka suspension upright is designed to push
>> out the standard T3 calipers to clear the larger 276mm disc from
>> used on the Syncro 16. If you use the 276mm or 288mm Audi 200/100/5000
>> Discs, the brake pads will sit 13mm off the edge of the disc. For
>> Syncro 16 owners, we simply move up to the Mercedes ML320-ML350
>> discs which are 303mm or the VW-Audi 312mm rotors.
>>
>> Calipers are dual-pistons form the same Audi 200/100/5000 series
>> as mentioned in David's article. As Ben Croft just posted, there is
>> a carrier which not require machining. They are for single piston
>> calipers. Overland in California claims they are proprietary design
>> but close examination suggest they are nothing more than the
>> carriers from the SA big brakes (276mm) with a Audi A6 caliper. In
>> the end the larger diameter discs give you better braking via
>> larger swept area. With the dual -pistons, you get better pedal
>> feel as well.
>>
>> Booster comes from any e30 BMW. In the US that is 1984-1991. My
>> former e30 was an 83 323i which had the same booster. Cost in the
>> US range from $50-$150 used.
>>
>> Don't forget the 14" wheels will not fit these brakes. There are
>> some minor corrections concerning spacers for the calipers in
>> David's site. Email me if you decide to go this route. My total
>> cost was less than half the commercially available kits.
>>
>>
>>
>> BenT
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 8:54 PM, Les Harris <leslieharris@...> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hartmut,
>>
>> From memory, Yurik's conversion was comprehensive and would have
>> included a matched booster. He has mentioned his conversion
>> previously but probably not in full detail. It will be worth
>> asking him for a detailed description.
>>
>>
>>
>> Ben,
>>
>> There are conversions that require some machining and some that
>> are bolt-on. Ben Tan in the US has good knowledge of what is
>> available and might be good enough to share it with us. Ben posted
>> detailed information some time ago but it would take some searching
>> to find it in the archives.
>>
>> Les
>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
35
That was the one I was refering to.

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, BenT Syncro <syncro@...> wrote:
>
> Try Herman's blog. Second paragraph:
>
> http://vanagonsyncroproject-herman.blogspot.com/
>
>
> BenT
>
> Sent from my small booster
>
> On Jul 6, 2010, at 11:16 PM, "bencroft96" <bencroft96@...> wrote:
>
> > Scott,google bmw e30 brake booster vw t25.
> > BenT, is this correct?
> >
> > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Mr Scott Pitcher"
> > <spbconsulting@> wrote:
> >>
> >> Ben T,
> >>
> >> Is there a great deal involved in changing over from a VW booster
> >> to a BMW booster - especially seeing the booster is inside the dash?
> >>
> >> Do you have any steps for the replacement of the booster set-up or
> >> any helpful tips?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Skot.
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: BenT Syncro
> >> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 2:34 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] improved braking
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi Les,
> >>
> >> Sorry I have been offline most of the day today. Best place to get
> >> info on converting a standard T3 Syncro is Davdi Marshall's site in
> >> Canada. Here's the link:
> >>
> >> http://www.syncro.ca/tech/audibrakes.htm
> >>
> >>
> >> Keep in mind that Yurik's modification is for Syncro 16's as mine.
> >> Our steering knuckle (aka suspension upright is designed to push
> >> out the standard T3 calipers to clear the larger 276mm disc from
> >> used on the Syncro 16. If you use the 276mm or 288mm Audi 200/100/5000
> >> Discs, the brake pads will sit 13mm off the edge of the disc. For
> >> Syncro 16 owners, we simply move up to the Mercedes ML320-ML350
> >> discs which are 303mm or the VW-Audi 312mm rotors.
> >>
> >> Calipers are dual-pistons form the same Audi 200/100/5000 series
> >> as mentioned in David's article. As Ben Croft just posted, there is
> >> a carrier which not require machining. They are for single piston
> >> calipers. Overland in California claims they are proprietary design
> >> but close examination suggest they are nothing more than the
> >> carriers from the SA big brakes (276mm) with a Audi A6 caliper. In
> >> the end the larger diameter discs give you better braking via
> >> larger swept area. With the dual -pistons, you get better pedal
> >> feel as well.
> >>
> >> Booster comes from any e30 BMW. In the US that is 1984-1991. My
> >> former e30 was an 83 323i which had the same booster. Cost in the
> >> US range from $50-$150 used.
> >>
> >> Don't forget the 14" wheels will not fit these brakes. There are
> >> some minor corrections concerning spacers for the calipers in
> >> David's site. Email me if you decide to go this route. My total
> >> cost was less than half the commercially available kits.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> BenT
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 8:54 PM, Les Harris <leslieharris@> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hartmut,
> >>
> >> From memory, Yurik's conversion was comprehensive and would have
> >> included a matched booster. He has mentioned his conversion
> >> previously but probably not in full detail. It will be worth
> >> asking him for a detailed description.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Ben,
> >>
> >> There are conversions that require some machining and some that
> >> are bolt-on. Ben Tan in the US has good knowledge of what is
> >> available and might be good enough to share it with us. Ben posted
> >> detailed information some time ago but it would take some searching
> >> to find it in the archives.
> >>
> >> Les
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
36
Fanx again Ben T!
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: improved braking

 

Try Herman's blog. Second paragraph:

http://vanagonsyncroproject-herman.blogspot.com/

BenT

Sent from my small booster

On Jul 6, 2010, at 11:16 PM, "bencroft96" <bencroft96@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Scott,google bmw e30 brake booster vw t25.
> BenT, is this correct?
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Mr Scott Pitcher"
> <spbconsulting@...> wrote:
>>
>> Ben T,
>>
>> Is there a great deal involved in changing over from a VW booster
>> to a BMW booster - especially seeing the booster is inside the dash?
>>
>> Do you have any steps for the replacement of the booster set-up or
>> any helpful tips?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Skot.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: BenT Syncro
>> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 2:34 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] improved braking
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Les,
>>
>> Sorry I have been offline most of the day today. Best place to get
>> info on converting a standard T3 Syncro is Davdi Marshall's site in
>> Canada. Here's the link:
>>
>> http://www.syncro.ca/tech/audibrakes.htm
>>
>>
>> Keep in mind that Yurik's modification is for Syncro 16's as mine.
>> Our steering knuckle (aka suspension upright is designed to push
>> out the standard T3 calipers to clear the larger 276mm disc from
>> used on the Syncro 16. If you use the 276mm or 288mm Audi 200/100/5000
>> Discs, the brake pads will sit 13mm off the edge of the disc. For
>> Syncro 16 owners, we simply move up to the Mercedes ML320-ML350
>> discs which are 303mm or the VW-Audi 312mm rotors.
>>
>> Calipers are dual-pistons form the same Audi 200/100/5000 series
>> as mentioned in David's article. As Ben Croft just posted, there is
>> a carrier which not require machining. They are for single piston
>> calipers. Overland in California claims they are proprietary design
>> but close examination suggest they are nothing more than the
>> carriers from the SA big brakes (276mm) with a Audi A6 caliper. In
>> the end the larger diameter discs give you better braking via
>> larger swept area. With the dual -pistons, you get better pedal
>> feel as well.
>>
>> Booster comes from any e30 BMW. In the US that is 1984-1991. My
>> former e30 was an 83 323i which had the same booster. Cost in the
>> US range from $50-$150 used.
>>
>> Don't forget the 14" wheels will not fit these brakes. There are
>> some minor corrections concerning spacers for the calipers in
>> David's site. Email me if you decide to go this route. My total
>> cost was less than half the commercially available kits.
>>
>>
>>
>> BenT
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 8:54 PM, Les Harris <leslieharris@...> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hartmut,
>>
>> From memory, Yurik's conversion was comprehensive and would have
>> included a matched booster. He has mentioned his conversion
>> previously but probably not in full detail. It will be worth
>> asking him for a detailed description.
>>
>>
>>
>> Ben,
>>
>> There are conversions that require some machining and some that
>> are bolt-on. Ben Tan in the US has good knowledge of what is
>> available and might be good enough to share it with us. Ben posted
>> detailed information some time ago but it would take some searching
>> to find it in the archives.
>>
>> Les
>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

37
Herman can come and work on my car anytime!



> BenT Syncro <syncro@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Try Herman's blog. Second paragraph:
>
> http://vanagonsyncroproject-herman.blogspot.com/
>
>
> BenT
>
> Sent from my small booster
>
> On Jul 6, 2010, at 11:16 PM, "bencroft96" <bencroft96@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Scott,google bmw e30 brake booster vw t25.
> > BenT, is this correct?
> >
> > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Mr Scott Pitcher"
> > <spbconsulting@...> wrote:
> >>
> >> Ben T,
> >>
> >> Is there a great deal involved in changing over from a VW booster
> >> to a BMW booster - especially seeing the booster is inside the dash?
> >>
> >> Do you have any steps for the replacement of the booster set-up or
> >> any helpful tips?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Skot.
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: BenT Syncro
> >> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 2:34 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] improved braking
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi Les,
> >>
> >> Sorry I have been offline most of the day today. Best place to get
> >> info on converting a standard T3 Syncro is Davdi Marshall's site in
> >> Canada. Here's the link:
> >>
> >> http://www.syncro.ca/tech/audibrakes.htm
> >>
> >>
> >> Keep in mind that Yurik's modification is for Syncro 16's as mine.
> >> Our steering knuckle (aka suspension upright is designed to push
> >> out the standard T3 calipers to clear the larger 276mm disc from
> >> used on the Syncro 16. If you use the 276mm or 288mm Audi
> 200/100/5000
> >> Discs, the brake pads will sit 13mm off the edge of the disc. For
> >> Syncro 16 owners, we simply move up to the Mercedes ML320-ML350
> >> discs which are 303mm or the VW-Audi 312mm rotors.
> >>
> >> Calipers are dual-pistons form the same Audi 200/100/5000 series
> >> as mentioned in David's article. As Ben Croft just posted, there is
> >> a carrier which not require machining. They are for single piston
> >> calipers. Overland in California claims they are proprietary design
> >> but close examination suggest they are nothing more than the
> >> carriers from the SA big brakes (276mm) with a Audi A6 caliper. In
> >> the end the larger diameter discs give you better braking via
> >> larger swept area. With the dual -pistons, you get better pedal
> >> feel as well.
> >>
> >> Booster comes from any e30 BMW. In the US that is 1984-1991. My
> >> former e30 was an 83 323i which had the same booster. Cost in the
> >> US range from $50-$150 used.
> >>
> >> Don't forget the 14" wheels will not fit these brakes. There are
> >> some minor corrections concerning spacers for the calipers in
> >> David's site. Email me if you decide to go this route. My total
> >> cost was less than half the commercially available kits.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> BenT
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 8:54 PM, Les Harris <leslieharris@...> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hartmut,
> >>
> >> From memory, Yurik's conversion was comprehensive and would have
> >> included a matched booster. He has mentioned his conversion
> >> previously but probably not in full detail. It will be worth
> >> asking him for a detailed description.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Ben,
> >>
> >> There are conversions that require some machining and some that
> >> are bolt-on. Ben Tan in the US has good knowledge of what is
> >> available and might be good enough to share it with us. Ben posted
> >> detailed information some time ago but it would take some searching
> >> to find it in the archives.
> >>
> >> Les
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
38
my computer skills will never stop
http://www.syncro.ca/tech/audibrakes.htm
Thanx Turbovans
--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, plander@... wrote:
>
> Herman can come and work on my car anytime!
>
>
>
> > BenT Syncro <syncro@...> wrote:
> >
> > Try Herman's blog. Second paragraph:
> >
> > http://vanagonsyncroproject-herman.blogspot.com/
> >
> >
> > BenT
> >
> > Sent from my small booster
> >
> > On Jul 6, 2010, at 11:16 PM, "bencroft96" <bencroft96@...> wrote:
> >
> > > Scott,google bmw e30 brake booster vw t25.
> > > BenT, is this correct?
> > >
> > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Mr Scott Pitcher"
> > > <spbconsulting@> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Ben T,
> > >>
> > >> Is there a great deal involved in changing over from a VW booster
> > >> to a BMW booster - especially seeing the booster is inside the dash?
> > >>
> > >> Do you have any steps for the replacement of the booster set-up or
> > >> any helpful tips?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >>
> > >> Skot.
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: BenT Syncro
> > >> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 2:34 PM
> > >> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] improved braking
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Hi Les,
> > >>
> > >> Sorry I have been offline most of the day today. Best place to get
> > >> info on converting a standard T3 Syncro is Davdi Marshall's site in
> > >> Canada. Here's the link:
> > >>
> > >> http://www.syncro.ca/tech/audibrakes.htm
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Keep in mind that Yurik's modification is for Syncro 16's as mine.
> > >> Our steering knuckle (aka suspension upright is designed to push
> > >> out the standard T3 calipers to clear the larger 276mm disc from
> > >> used on the Syncro 16. If you use the 276mm or 288mm Audi
> > 200/100/5000
> > >> Discs, the brake pads will sit 13mm off the edge of the disc. For
> > >> Syncro 16 owners, we simply move up to the Mercedes ML320-ML350
> > >> discs which are 303mm or the VW-Audi 312mm rotors.
> > >>
> > >> Calipers are dual-pistons form the same Audi 200/100/5000 series
> > >> as mentioned in David's article. As Ben Croft just posted, there is
> > >> a carrier which not require machining. They are for single piston
> > >> calipers. Overland in California claims they are proprietary design
> > >> but close examination suggest they are nothing more than the
> > >> carriers from the SA big brakes (276mm) with a Audi A6 caliper. In
> > >> the end the larger diameter discs give you better braking via
> > >> larger swept area. With the dual -pistons, you get better pedal
> > >> feel as well.
> > >>
> > >> Booster comes from any e30 BMW. In the US that is 1984-1991. My
> > >> former e30 was an 83 323i which had the same booster. Cost in the
> > >> US range from $50-$150 used.
> > >>
> > >> Don't forget the 14" wheels will not fit these brakes. There are
> > >> some minor corrections concerning spacers for the calipers in
> > >> David's site. Email me if you decide to go this route. My total
> > >> cost was less than half the commercially available kits.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> BenT
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 8:54 PM, Les Harris <leslieharris@> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Hartmut,
> > >>
> > >> From memory, Yurik's conversion was comprehensive and would have
> > >> included a matched booster. He has mentioned his conversion
> > >> previously but probably not in full detail. It will be worth
> > >> asking him for a detailed description.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Ben,
> > >>
> > >> There are conversions that require some machining and some that
> > >> are bolt-on. Ben Tan in the US has good knowledge of what is
> > >> available and might be good enough to share it with us. Ben posted
> > >> detailed information some time ago but it would take some searching
> > >> to find it in the archives.
> > >>
> > >> Les
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
39
Computing skills still very,very dusty,sorry Skot
http://vanagonsyncroproject-herman.blogspot.com/
thats beter
--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "bencroft96" <bencroft96@...> wrote:
>
> my computer skills will never stop
> http://www.syncro.ca/tech/audibrakes.htm
> Thanx Turbovans
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, plander@ wrote:
> >
> > Herman can come and work on my car anytime!
> >
> >
> >
> > > BenT Syncro <syncro@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Try Herman's blog. Second paragraph:
> > >
> > > http://vanagonsyncroproject-herman.blogspot.com/
> > >
> > >
> > > BenT
> > >
> > > Sent from my small booster
> > >
> > > On Jul 6, 2010, at 11:16 PM, "bencroft96" <bencroft96@> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Scott,google bmw e30 brake booster vw t25.
> > > > BenT, is this correct?
> > > >
> > > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Mr Scott Pitcher"
> > > > <spbconsulting@> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Ben T,
> > > >>
> > > >> Is there a great deal involved in changing over from a VW booster
> > > >> to a BMW booster - especially seeing the booster is inside the dash?
> > > >>
> > > >> Do you have any steps for the replacement of the booster set-up or
> > > >> any helpful tips?
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks,
> > > >>
> > > >> Skot.
> > > >>
> > > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > > >> From: BenT Syncro
> > > >> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > >> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 2:34 PM
> > > >> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] improved braking
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Hi Les,
> > > >>
> > > >> Sorry I have been offline most of the day today. Best place to get
> > > >> info on converting a standard T3 Syncro is Davdi Marshall's site in
> > > >> Canada. Here's the link:
> > > >>
> > > >> http://www.syncro.ca/tech/audibrakes.htm
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Keep in mind that Yurik's modification is for Syncro 16's as mine.
> > > >> Our steering knuckle (aka suspension upright is designed to push
> > > >> out the standard T3 calipers to clear the larger 276mm disc from
> > > >> used on the Syncro 16. If you use the 276mm or 288mm Audi
> > > 200/100/5000
> > > >> Discs, the brake pads will sit 13mm off the edge of the disc. For
> > > >> Syncro 16 owners, we simply move up to the Mercedes ML320-ML350
> > > >> discs which are 303mm or the VW-Audi 312mm rotors.
> > > >>
> > > >> Calipers are dual-pistons form the same Audi 200/100/5000 series
> > > >> as mentioned in David's article. As Ben Croft just posted, there is
> > > >> a carrier which not require machining. They are for single piston
> > > >> calipers. Overland in California claims they are proprietary design
> > > >> but close examination suggest they are nothing more than the
> > > >> carriers from the SA big brakes (276mm) with a Audi A6 caliper. In
> > > >> the end the larger diameter discs give you better braking via
> > > >> larger swept area. With the dual -pistons, you get better pedal
> > > >> feel as well.
> > > >>
> > > >> Booster comes from any e30 BMW. In the US that is 1984-1991. My
> > > >> former e30 was an 83 323i which had the same booster. Cost in the
> > > >> US range from $50-$150 used.
> > > >>
> > > >> Don't forget the 14" wheels will not fit these brakes. There are
> > > >> some minor corrections concerning spacers for the calipers in
> > > >> David's site. Email me if you decide to go this route. My total
> > > >> cost was less than half the commercially available kits.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> BenT
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 8:54 PM, Les Harris <leslieharris@> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Hartmut,
> > > >>
> > > >> From memory, Yurik's conversion was comprehensive and would have
> > > >> included a matched booster. He has mentioned his conversion
> > > >> previously but probably not in full detail. It will be worth
> > > >> asking him for a detailed description.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Ben,
> > > >>
> > > >> There are conversions that require some machining and some that
> > > >> are bolt-on. Ben Tan in the US has good knowledge of what is
> > > >> available and might be good enough to share it with us. Ben posted
> > > >> detailed information some time ago but it would take some searching
> > > >> to find it in the archives.
> > > >>
> > > >> Les
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
>
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Ben,

I can’t tell you how impressed at what he has done.  It awesome to see such workmanship!

Les

(Sent from my steam abacus)

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of BenT Syncro
Sent: 07 July 2010 16:26
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: improved braking

 

Try Herman's blog. Second paragraph:

http://vanagonsyncroproject-herman.blogspot.com/

BenT

Sent from my small booster