Feul Pump & fuel relay location

1

Does anyone know where the fuel pump relay is on the syncro. Have a manual but not clear says something about testing for flow but no location?

Another electrical diagram says no 15 on relay & fuse panel but no second level on mine unless it folds behind.

Pump is us and no power to the pump any suggestions

Need a pump if anyone has one left over from a conversion not sure if its replaced for conversion will pay reasonable sum and postage ?

 

pete.

 

  

2
Pete,

Are the 2wd pumps the same as the 4wd pumps?

I know they are located differently but really they should be the same??

If they are the same I know where to get you one.

Cheers,

Skot


On 9/01/2014 6:00 PM, peterw1000@gmail.com wrote:

Does anyone know where the fuel pump relay is on the syncro. Have a manual but not clear says something about testing for flow but no location?

Another electrical diagram says no 15 on relay & fuse panel but no second level on mine unless it folds behind.

Pump is us and no power to the pump any suggestions

Need a pump if anyone has one left over from a conversion not sure if its replaced for conversion will pay reasonable sum and postage ?

pete.


3
the fuel pumps are the same.
if any Australian syncro owner's vans have a black plastic junction box mounted right above the ignition coil,
the relays are in there.

Poor contact somewhere is far more likely than a bad relay in my experience.
I have seen like one or two 'ever' that were bad, working on countless T3 vans for years.

oh btw...
it's super easy to jumper/hot wire the fuel pump in that box.
on the right hand relay, pretty sure ...
take any thin conductor, small jumper wire with clips ... ...tip of a screw driver, etc, touch the top and bottom wire connectors together..
the fuel pump will or should run. Ignition doesn't even have to be on.

Scott
Southern Oregon USA
On 1/9/2014 12:00 AM, spbconsulting@bigpond.com wrote:

Pete,

Are the 2wd pumps the same as the 4wd pumps?

I know they are located differently but really they should be the same??

If they are the same I know where to get you one.

Cheers,

Skot


On 9/01/2014 6:00 PM, peterw1000@gmail.com wrote:

Does anyone know where the fuel pump relay is on the syncro. Have a manual but not clear says something about testing for flow but no location?

Another electrical diagram says no 15 on relay & fuse panel but no second level on mine unless it folds behind.

Pump is us and no power to the pump any suggestions

Need a pump if anyone has one left over from a conversion not sure if its replaced for conversion will pay reasonable sum and postage ?

pete.



4
Hi Scott,
According to Etka parts catalogue, fuel pump part # is 251 906 091 , the same in both 2wd and 4wd sections.
Cheers.
Ken



To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: spbconsulting@bigpond.com
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 19:00:45 +1100
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Feul Pump & fuel relay location

 

Pete,

Are the 2wd pumps the same as the 4wd pumps?

I know they are located differently but really they should be the same??

If they are the same I know where to get you one.

Cheers,

Skot


On 9/01/2014 6:00 PM, peterw1000@gmail.com wrote:
 
Does anyone know where the fuel pump relay is on the syncro. Have a manual but not clear says something about testing for flow but no location?
Another electrical diagram says no 15 on relay & fuse panel but no second level on mine unless it folds behind.
Pump is us and no power to the pump any suggestions
Need a pump if anyone has one left over from a conversion not sure if its replaced for conversion will pay reasonable sum and postage ?
 
pete.
 
  


5
there was no doubt in my mind about the pumps not being the same exact one.

they are 'the same' from at least the start of water-boxer T3 vans starting in model year 83.5 and probably air-cooled fuel injected vans before that.
Super common fine fuel pump for EFI systems need to run about 34 psi or so. They run subaru engines just fine too.

and man do they last !! 20 years is not uncommon.
it's always good to have a known-good spare one of course.

Scott


On 1/9/2014 1:06 AM, Ken Garratt wrote:

Hi Scott,
According to Etka parts catalogue, fuel pump part # is 251 906 091 , the same in both 2wd and 4wd sections.
Cheers.
Ken



To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: spbconsulting@bigpond.com
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 19:00:45 +1100
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Feul Pump & fuel relay location


Pete,

Are the 2wd pumps the same as the 4wd pumps?

I know they are located differently but really they should be the same??

If they are the same I know where to get you one.

Cheers,

Skot


On 9/01/2014 6:00 PM, peterw1000@gmail.com wrote:
Does anyone know where the fuel pump relay is on the syncro. Have a manual but not clear says something about testing for flow but no location?
Another electrical diagram says no 15 on relay & fuse panel but no second level on mine unless it folds behind.
Pump is us and no power to the pump any suggestions
Need a pump if anyone has one left over from a conversion not sure if its replaced for conversion will pay reasonable sum and postage ?

pete.





6
Think so same engine so will grab it if the price is cool could you ask for ph no for me ?
swaped the pump and relays <rectangular box LHS engine bay > out of my Telstra into the SA microbus fuel flowed great started fist kick. Run well those DJ engines are a lot sweeter and about 16 percent more powerful you can notice it from idle.
Rudi set me straight and sorted in 10 min. Front and rear diff locks went straight in and out VC cactus need one more have to do both Telstra and sa microbus only have one spare so have to flip a coin see which one gets it first? Might bolt up one vc and fit a decoupler to the twin diff lock.
The guru at Bribie he has issues with his pump because of LPG running all the time pump dries out and locks up.
Beware LPG users one day it wont work?
Got a case machined to replace the alloy canister so he can clean and get going easier.
So will try to get my apart he said you can clean them out easy once its out of it shell.
He also said it cycles about 5 seconds on so when you get under with the test light its over a no current is flowing< Relays doing their thing> ?
Bit of a trap for beginners like me with a test light.
I see what you were saying Jens those DJ engines are noticeably sweeter but possibly not as green as the catalytic system.
Just another day playing with the Syncro.s isn't life good.
PeteSEQ


On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 6:00 PM, <spbconsulting@bigpond.com> wrote:

Pete,

Are the 2wd pumps the same as the 4wd pumps?

I know they are located differently but really they should be the same??

If they are the same I know where to get you one.

Cheers,

Skot



On 9/01/2014 6:00 PM, peterw1000@gmail.com wrote:

Does anyone know where the fuel pump relay is on the syncro. Have a manual but not clear says something about testing for flow but no location?

Another electrical diagram says no 15 on relay & fuse panel but no second level on mine unless it folds behind.

Pump is us and no power to the pump any suggestions

Need a pump if anyone has one left over from a conversion not sure if its replaced for conversion will pay reasonable sum and postage ?

pete.



7
Cheers Scott and guys thanks for your info. The van sat for about 6 or 7 years so the fuel went off and locked up the pump is the advice. Also a big wasp nest was fouling the thermo fan and the fuse was blown when I looked at it as I had not got it going then. It was about the size of a cricket ball. Removed the nest after I put in a fuse that blew in my first test drive. Could not believe the aircon worked after 6 or 7 years sitting....Pete


On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 7:33 PM, SDF ( Scott Daniel Foss ) <ScottDaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:

there was no doubt in my mind about the pumps not being the same exact one.

they are 'the same' from at least the start of water-boxer T3 vans starting in model year 83.5 and probably air-cooled fuel injected vans before that.
Super common fine fuel pump for EFI systems need to run about 34 psi or so. They run subaru engines just fine too.

and man do they last !! 20 years is not uncommon.
it's always good to have a known-good spare one of course.

Scott


On 1/9/2014 1:06 AM, Ken Garratt wrote:

Hi Scott,
According to Etka parts catalogue, fuel pump part # is 251 906 091 , the same in both 2wd and 4wd sections.
Cheers.
Ken



To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: spbconsulting@bigpond.com
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 19:00:45 +1100
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Feul Pump & fuel relay location


Pete,

Are the 2wd pumps the same as the 4wd pumps?

I know they are located differently but really they should be the same??

If they are the same I know where to get you one.

Cheers,

Skot


On 9/01/2014 6:00 PM, peterw1000@gmail.com wrote:
Does anyone know where the fuel pump relay is on the syncro. Have a manual but not clear says something about testing for flow but no location?
Another electrical diagram says no 15 on relay & fuse panel but no second level on mine unless it folds behind.
Pump is us and no power to the pump any suggestions
Need a pump if anyone has one left over from a conversion not sure if its replaced for conversion will pay reasonable sum and postage ?

pete.






8
Hi Peté, take the engine cover off, look at the left side and locate the black plastic box, open and find 2 realise. One is the fuel pump relais. Hart

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On 09/01/2014, at 6:00 PM, peterw1000@gmail.com wrote:

 

Does anyone know where the fuel pump relay is on the syncro. Have a manual but not clear says something about testing for flow but no location?

Another electrical diagram says no 15 on relay & fuse panel but no second level on mine unless it folds behind.

Pump is us and no power to the pump any suggestions

Need a pump if anyone has one left over from a conversion not sure if its replaced for conversion will pay reasonable sum and postage ?

 

pete.

 

  

9
Thanks Ken.

On 9/01/2014 8:06 PM, Ken Garratt wrote:

Hi Scott,
According to Etka parts catalogue, fuel pump part # is 251 906 091 , the same in both 2wd and 4wd sections.
Cheers.
Ken



To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: spbconsulting@bigpond.com
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 19:00:45 +1100
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Feul Pump & fuel relay location


Pete,

Are the 2wd pumps the same as the 4wd pumps?

I know they are located differently but really they should be the same??

If they are the same I know where to get you one.

Cheers,

Skot


On 9/01/2014 6:00 PM, peterw1000@gmail.com wrote:
Does anyone know where the fuel pump relay is on the syncro. Have a manual but not clear says something about testing for flow but no location?
Another electrical diagram says no 15 on relay & fuse panel but no second level on mine unless it folds behind.
Pump is us and no power to the pump any suggestions
Need a pump if anyone has one left over from a conversion not sure if its replaced for conversion will pay reasonable sum and postage ?

pete.





10
Pete,

So you still want the fuel pump 2wd?

Let me know.

Thanx,

skot

On 9/01/2014 8:35 PM, Peter Wilson wrote:
Think so same engine so will grab it if the price is cool could you ask for ph no for me ?
swaped the pump and relays <rectangular box LHS engine bay > out of my Telstra into the SA microbus fuel flowed great started fist kick. Run well those DJ engines are a lot sweeter and about 16 percent more powerful you can notice it from idle.
Rudi set me straight and sorted in 10 min. Front and rear diff locks went straight in and out VC cactus need one more have to do both Telstra and sa microbus only have one spare so have to flip a coin see which one gets it first? Might bolt up one vc and fit a decoupler to the twin diff lock.
The guru at Bribie he has issues with his pump because of LPG running all the time pump dries out and locks up.
Beware LPG users one day it wont work?
Got a case machined to replace the alloy canister so he can clean and get going easier.
So will try to get my apart he said you can clean them out easy once its out of it shell.
He also said it cycles about 5 seconds on so when you get under with the test light its over a no current is flowing< Relays doing their thing> ?
Bit of a trap for beginners like me with a test light.
I see what you were saying Jens those DJ engines are noticeably sweeter but possibly not as green as the catalytic system.
Just another day playing with the Syncro.s isn't life good.
PeteSEQ


On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 6:00 PM, <spbconsulting@bigpond.com> wrote:

Pete,

Are the 2wd pumps the same as the 4wd pumps?

I know they are located differently but really they should be the same??

If they are the same I know where to get you one.

Cheers,

Skot



On 9/01/2014 6:00 PM, peterw1000@gmail.com wrote:

Does anyone know where the fuel pump relay is on the syncro. Have a manual but not clear says something about testing for flow but no location?

Another electrical diagram says no 15 on relay & fuse panel but no second level on mine unless it folds behind.

Pump is us and no power to the pump any suggestions

Need a pump if anyone has one left over from a conversion not sure if its replaced for conversion will pay reasonable sum and postage ?

pete.




11
Yes mate still need one stole one out of my daily driver have one pump 2 cars. If you can give me a number I will call.......Pete


On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 9:08 PM, <spbconsulting@bigpond.com> wrote:

Pete,

So you still want the fuel pump 2wd?

Let me know.

Thanx,

skot


On 9/01/2014 8:35 PM, Peter Wilson wrote:
Think so same engine so will grab it if the price is cool could you ask for ph no for me ?
swaped the pump and relays <rectangular box LHS engine bay > out of my Telstra into the SA microbus fuel flowed great started fist kick. Run well those DJ engines are a lot sweeter and about 16 percent more powerful you can notice it from idle.
Rudi set me straight and sorted in 10 min. Front and rear diff locks went straight in and out VC cactus need one more have to do both Telstra and sa microbus only have one spare so have to flip a coin see which one gets it first? Might bolt up one vc and fit a decoupler to the twin diff lock.
The guru at Bribie he has issues with his pump because of LPG running all the time pump dries out and locks up.
Beware LPG users one day it wont work?
Got a case machined to replace the alloy canister so he can clean and get going easier.
So will try to get my apart he said you can clean them out easy once its out of it shell.
He also said it cycles about 5 seconds on so when you get under with the test light its over a no current is flowing< Relays doing their thing> ?
Bit of a trap for beginners like me with a test light.
I see what you were saying Jens those DJ engines are noticeably sweeter but possibly not as green as the catalytic system.
Just another day playing with the Syncro.s isn't life good.
PeteSEQ


On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 6:00 PM, <spbconsulting@bigpond.com> wrote:

Pete,

Are the 2wd pumps the same as the 4wd pumps?

I know they are located differently but really they should be the same??

If they are the same I know where to get you one.

Cheers,

Skot



On 9/01/2014 6:00 PM, peterw1000@gmail.com wrote:

Does anyone know where the fuel pump relay is on the syncro. Have a manual but not clear says something about testing for flow but no location?

Another electrical diagram says no 15 on relay & fuse panel but no second level on mine unless it folds behind.

Pump is us and no power to the pump any suggestions

Need a pump if anyone has one left over from a conversion not sure if its replaced for conversion will pay reasonable sum and postage ?

pete.





12
Pete, A few years ago bosch simplified their fuel pump range down to seven generic units. The T3 takes the 0 580 464 070. If you want reliability buy a genuine bosch. Greg E
From: Peter Wilson <peterw1000@gmail.com>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 9 January 2014 11:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Feul Pump & fuel relay location

 
Yes mate still need one stole one out of my daily driver have one pump 2 cars. If you can give me a number I will call.......Pete


On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 9:08 PM, <spbconsulting@bigpond.com> wrote:
 
Pete,

So you still want the fuel pump 2wd?

Let me know.

Thanx,

skot


On 9/01/2014 8:35 PM, Peter Wilson wrote:
 
Think so same engine so will grab it if the price is cool could you ask  for ph no for me ?
 
 swaped the pump and relays <rectangular box LHS engine bay > out of my Telstra into the SA microbus fuel flowed great started fist kick. Run well those DJ engines are a lot sweeter and about 16 percent more powerful you can notice it from idle.
 Rudi set me straight and sorted in 10 min. Front and rear diff locks went straight in and out VC cactus need one more have to do both Telstra and sa microbus only have one spare so have to flip a coin see which one gets it first? Might bolt up one vc and fit a decoupler to the twin diff lock.
The guru at Bribie he has issues with his pump because of LPG running all the time pump dries out and locks up.
Beware LPG users one day it  wont work?
 Got a case machined to replace the alloy canister so he can clean and get going easier.
 So will try to get my apart he said you can clean them out easy once its out of it shell.
He also said it cycles about 5 seconds on so when you get under with the test light its over a no current is flowing< Relays doing their thing> ?
 Bit of a trap for beginners like me with a test light. 
I see what you were saying Jens those DJ engines are noticeably sweeter but possibly not as green as the catalytic system.
Just another day playing with the Syncro.s isn't life good.
 
PeteSEQ


On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 6:00 PM, <spbconsulting@bigpond.com> wrote:
 
Pete,

Are the 2wd pumps the same as the 4wd pumps?

I know they are located differently but really they should be the same??

If they are the same I know where to get you one.

Cheers,

Skot



On 9/01/2014 6:00 PM, peterw1000@gmail.com wrote:
 
Does anyone know where the fuel pump relay is on the syncro. Have a manual but not clear says something about testing for flow but no location?
Another electrical diagram says no 15 on relay & fuse panel but no second level on mine unless it folds behind.
Pump is us and no power to the pump any suggestions
Need a pump if anyone has one left over from a conversion not sure if its replaced for conversion will pay reasonable sum and postage ?
 
pete.
 
  






13
Be careful with Commodore relays as some have the terminals reversed. Visually check 85, 86, 30 etc.

Phill
14
I'm talking fuel pumps not relays.
From: "plander@optusnet.com.au" <plander@optusnet.com.au>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 10 January 2014 9:13 AM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Feul Pump & fuel relay location

 
Be careful with Commodore relays as some have the terminals reversed. Visually check 85, 86, 30 etc.

Phill


15
Thanks for sharing this Greg.
I recently rang the local VW dealers parts department to get a price on new oil filters for 2WD and the Syncro.
I asked for one for an '89 Syncro.
The drongo that I spoke to had never heard of them and asked for a VIN.

I told him that Repco had not trouble checking that they had one on the shelf and that they give me an NRMA discount.
Suggested that he get trained and hung up.

Now that we have the Bosch information, I'll check the fuel pump price and availability with Repco too.
I'll need a spare for my next trip.

Peter







--Original Message Text---
From: Greg Esposito
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 13:26:27 -0800 (PST)

HOLDEN

16
Oil filters are usually in stock and are a reasonable price.

Phill
17
Pete,

My mate Lucky Phil has a genuine used one for $20 plus postage or you can get the commodore one as he also suggested.

This one was in a working van before being extracted so I assume it works.

If you want the used one call Phil - 0403 999 089.

He is based in East Gosford on NSW Central Coast.

Cheers,

Skot

On 9/01/2014 11:22 PM, Peter Wilson wrote:
Yes mate still need one stole one out of my daily driver have one pump 2 cars. If you can give me a number I will call.......Pete


On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 9:08 PM, <spbconsulting@bigpond.com> wrote:

Pete,

So you still want the fuel pump 2wd?

Let me know.

Thanx,

skot


On 9/01/2014 8:35 PM, Peter Wilson wrote:
Think so same engine so will grab it if the price is cool could you ask for ph no for me ?
swaped the pump and relays <rectangular box LHS engine bay > out of my Telstra into the SA microbus fuel flowed great started fist kick. Run well those DJ engines are a lot sweeter and about 16 percent more powerful you can notice it from idle.
Rudi set me straight and sorted in 10 min. Front and rear diff locks went straight in and out VC cactus need one more have to do both Telstra and sa microbus only have one spare so have to flip a coin see which one gets it first? Might bolt up one vc and fit a decoupler to the twin diff lock.
The guru at Bribie he has issues with his pump because of LPG running all the time pump dries out and locks up.
Beware LPG users one day it wont work?
Got a case machined to replace the alloy canister so he can clean and get going easier.
So will try to get my apart he said you can clean them out easy once its out of it shell.
He also said it cycles about 5 seconds on so when you get under with the test light its over a no current is flowing< Relays doing their thing> ?
Bit of a trap for beginners like me with a test light.
I see what you were saying Jens those DJ engines are noticeably sweeter but possibly not as green as the catalytic system.
Just another day playing with the Syncro.s isn't life good.
PeteSEQ


On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 6:00 PM, <spbconsulting@bigpond.com> wrote:

Pete,

Are the 2wd pumps the same as the 4wd pumps?

I know they are located differently but really they should be the same??

If they are the same I know where to get you one.

Cheers,

Skot



On 9/01/2014 6:00 PM, peterw1000@gmail.com wrote:

Does anyone know where the fuel pump relay is on the syncro. Have a manual but not clear says something about testing for flow but no location?

Another electrical diagram says no 15 on relay & fuse panel but no second level on mine unless it folds behind.

Pump is us and no power to the pump any suggestions

Need a pump if anyone has one left over from a conversion not sure if its replaced for conversion will pay reasonable sum and postage ?

pete.






18
Don't be so hard on the parts interpreters. The system they use requires a vin number and most were born after the syncro was made!
From: Peter Schweinsberg <peter@peterandval.com>
To: "Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com" <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, 10 January 2014 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Feul Pump & fuel relay location

 
Thanks for sharing this Greg.
I recently rang the local VW dealers parts department to get a price on new oil filters for 2WD and the Syncro.
I asked for one for an '89 Syncro.
The drongo that I spoke to had never heard of them and asked for a VIN.

I told him that Repco had not trouble checking that they had one on the shelf and that they give me an NRMA discount.
Suggested that he get trained and hung up.

Now that we have the Bosch information, I'll check the fuel pump price and availability with Repco too.
I'll need a spare for my next trip.

Peter







--Original Message Text---
From: Greg Esposito
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 13:26:27 -0800 (PST)

HOLDEN



19
Yes, I know.
But I come from a different era.
I remember walking into Dominion Motors and asking for a torque reaction rubber buffer for a Singer 4AD, and the man behind the counter reeled off the part number and the bin number from memory and asked: "Do you want one or two ?"

OK that was fifty years ago, but the other day I needed an oil filter for the E31 850 BMW and the girl behind the counter at Repco, after opening up her book, asked me: "What year ?"

These were and are very rare motor cars.
In both cases they were in stock at the time.

These days if you go to the dealer and the car is more than four years old they often don't have it in stock and they offer to get one in, probably from Singapore if your lucky, but more likely from Germany.

And if it's more than ten years old it has probably been deleted from range.

There is another problem.
When VW reorganized the distributors here, they got rid of the experienced staff and even some of the best experienced distributors. They replaced the distributors with investors who could afford flash showrooms and they, in tern, replaced experienced staff with supermarket shelf stackers.





--Original Message Text---
From: Greg Esposito
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 20:57:45 -0800 (PST)




Don't be so hard on the parts interpreters. The system they use requires a vin number and most were born after the syncro was made!


From: Peter Schweinsberg <peter@peterandval.com>
To: "Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com" <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, 10 January 2014 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Feul Pump & fuel relay location


Thanks for sharing this Greg.
I recently rang the local VW dealers parts department to get a price on new oil filters for 2WD and the Syncro.
I asked for one for an '89 Syncro.
The drongo that I spoke to had never heard of them and asked for a VIN.

I told him that Repco had not trouble checking that they had one on the shelf and that they give me an NRMA discount.
Suggested that he get trained and hung up.

Now that we have the Bosch information, I'll check the fuel pump price and availability with Repco too.
I'll need a spare for my next trip.

Peter







--Original Message Text---
From: Greg Esposito
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 13:26:27 -0800 (PST)

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...and if you walk into a dealer today and ask for an oil filter for '09 golf 2.0 tdi they will know the number. It's the old adage of money talks. If you walked into your old dealership and asked for a gearbox casing for Mr Noddy's singer they would have to look it up. Also you have to consider that phone room parts is usually a junior position and poorly paid. It is the modern age of motoring and there have been many, many models produced by VW and there are also many things to confuse finding the right parts for a vehicle like grey and private imports. This is why manufacturers like VW come up with an amazing computer system to find parts, the only thing they require of you is a V.I.N. - simple. If you ring VW have your vin ready, its not that hard.
From: Peter Schweinsberg <peter@peterandval.com>
To: "Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com" <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, 10 January 2014 5:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Feul Pump & fuel relay location

 
Yes, I know.
But I come from a different era.
I remember walking into Dominion Motors and asking for a torque reaction rubber buffer for a Singer 4AD, and the man behind the counter reeled off the part number and the bin number from memory and asked: "Do you want one or two ?"

OK that was fifty years ago, but the other day I needed an oil filter for the E31 850 BMW and the girl behind the counter at Repco, after opening up her book, asked me: "What year ?"

These were and are very rare motor cars.
In both cases they were in stock at the time.

These days if you go to the dealer and the car is more than four years old they often don't have it in stock and they offer to get one in, probably from Singapore if your lucky, but more likely from Germany.

And if it's more than ten years old it has probably been deleted from range.

There is another problem.
When VW reorganized the distributors here, they got rid of the experienced staff and even some of the best experienced distributors. They replaced the distributors with investors who could afford flash showrooms and they, in tern, replaced experienced staff with supermarket shelf stackers.





--Original Message Text---
From: Greg Esposito
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 20:57:45 -0800 (PST)




Don't be so hard on the parts interpreters. The system they use requires a vin number and most were born after the syncro was made!


From: Peter Schweinsberg <peter@peterandval.com>
To: "Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com" <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, 10 January 2014 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Feul Pump fuel relay location


Thanks for sharing this Greg.
I recently rang the local VW dealers parts department to get a price on new oil filters for 2WD and the Syncro.
I asked for one for an '89 Syncro.
The drongo that I spoke to had never heard of them and asked for a VIN.

I told him that Repco had not trouble checking that they had one on the shelf and that they give me an NRMA discount.
Suggested that he get trained and hung up.

Now that we have the Bosch information, I'll check the fuel pump price and availability with Repco too.
I'll need a spare for my next trip.

Peter







--Original Message Text---
From: Greg Esposito
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 13:26:27 -0800 (PST)

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