New Sticker Placement

first question is does it shift stiffly with the engine off. ?
if it does ..you think more linkage ..or possible trans internals.

there are lots of ways the shift linkage can get worn ..
or even just very dirty and not lubed well enough.
 
give an example...wasn't a syncro but same thing ..
would not come out of reverse easily sometimes.

after I unbolted the shift linakge from the side of the trans ..
I could see the ball on the end of the lever on the side of the trans had slid up that lever...jamming things up sometimes.
that lever can also get loose where it is held on splines by one 13mm hex nut ..
when that happens you have lost motion for sure.

though lost motion is sloppiness and not stiffness.
and ..
this is when it's fun and tricky ..
I've seen both at the same time ....very stiff to move, and lost motion too. 
The shift linage needs regular lubrication ..
from the base of the shifter to side of the trans ..
like twice a year.
  If you are sure the linkage is pretty good, and moving nicely and not sloppy ..
and not some clutch issue ..
you start thinking about transmission internals.

stay cool !
Scott
www.turbovans.com
On 1/17/2013 7:27 PM, Les Harris wrote:
 

 

Mark Kofahl is in Gippsland on his way back to Sydney after several weeks away with Deb and the two children.

He is experiencing stiff gear changes and more so when hot.

I thought that it might be fluid level but that’d OK. 

Can anyone think of a possible reason?

Lost motion?

Les


Thanks Scott.  He’s in a remote area at the moment so I am reposting to him via his phone.

 


From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Daniel - Turbovans
Sent: 18 January 2013 15:26
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Cc: Les Harris
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Stiff Gearchange

 

 

first question is does it shift stiffly with the engine off. ?
if it does ..you think more linkage ..or possible trans internals.

there are lots of ways the shift linkage can get worn ..
or even just very dirty and not lubed well enough.
 
give an example...wasn't a syncro but same thing ..
would not come out of reverse easily sometimes.

after I unbolted the shift linakge from the side of the trans ..
I could see the ball on the end of the lever on the side of the trans had slid up that lever...jamming things up sometimes.
that lever can also get loose where it is held on splines by one 13mm hex nut ..
when that happens you have lost motion for sure.

though lost motion is sloppiness and not stiffness.
and ..
this is when it's fun and tricky ..
I've seen both at the same time ....very stiff to move, and lost motion too. 
The shift linage needs regular lubrication ..
from the base of the shifter to side of the trans ..
like twice a year.
  If you are sure the linkage is pretty good, and moving nicely and not sloppy ..
and not some clutch issue ..
you start thinking about transmission internals.

stay cool !
Scott
www.turbovans.com

On 1/17/2013 7:27 PM, Les Harris wrote:

 

 

Mark Kofahl is in Gippsland on his way back to Sydney after several weeks away with Deb and the two children.

He is experiencing stiff gear changes and more so when hot.

I thought that it might be fluid level but that’d OK. 

Can anyone think of a possible reason?

Lost motion?

Les

 


 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 2:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] New Sticker Placement
 
Hi Rowan
Hope these help
 
Cheers Graham
 

Hi All,

So any pictures with measurements on offer for cab door Factory placement of 4WD stickers?

With Thanks,

Rowan


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From: Mr Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@bigpond.com>;
To: <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com>;
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] New Sticker Placement
Sent: Thu, Jan 17, 2013 11:45:54 PM

That is definitely possible.

Skot

On 18/01/2013 10:04 AM, plander@optusnet.com.au wrote:
> Skot, yours were put on after.
>
> Phill
>
>
>
>> Mr Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@bigpond.com> wrote:
>>
>> Mine (1988 model) had both the front door and rear hatch 4WD stickers.
>> My rear hatch is still original paint.
>>
>> My Dad's ex syncro had all 3 too. He bought it new and it came with them
>>
>> and his was a low spec model with no power steering (this was retro-
>> fitted later in its life).
>>
>> Skot
>>
>>
>>
>> On 18/01/2013 8:01 AM, plander@optusnet.com.au wrote:
>>> I wonder if some came with stickers on the rear and some didn't? A bit
>> like cigarette lighters and quarter windows. I know that the pre '90s
>> with the Puch badge didn't have them at all.
>>> I'll see if I can find a photo.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> greg esposito <gregespo73@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Are you sure about the rear hatch Phill? I have only seen them on
>> muller
>>>> cars and the odd one placed in different spots around the hatch by
>>>> owners. I have never seen one on an overseas delivery. Both Rogers
>> Ex
>>>> syncro and mine were the last batch to come here, mine has had paint
>> on
>>>> the hatch but Rodgers looked factory to me and I don't think it had
>> a
>>>> sticker. Â Haven't you got a bunch of photos of the car covered in
>> wax?
>>>> Any of the rear? Greg E
>>>>
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>>    From: "plander@optusnet.com.au" <plander@optusnet.com.au>
>>>> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
>>>> Sent: Friday, 18 January 2013 7:05 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] New Sticker Placement
>>>>   
>>>> The 4WD sticker on the doors and the rear hatch from the factory on
>>>> later models. I picked mine up from TKM and it already had them.Â
>>>> http://members.ozemail.com.au/~pjlander/tyre_carrier.htm
>>>>
>>>> Phill
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> gregespo73 <gregespo73@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Rowan, the "syncro" on the front and the "4WD" on the doors is
>>>> standard
>>>>> factory fit. Alot of people retrofit to the rear hatch including it
>>>>> seems the muller boys on their new deliveries. Greg E
>>>>>
>>>>> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Rowan Hardinge  wrote:
>>>>>> Thanks again Les for that display.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My next question is about the
>>>>>> 4WD stickers of which I have 2.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Whats the story with those was there ever a Factory Positioning, or
>>>>> were these an after market sticker developed by enthusiasts for
>>>> arbitary
>>>>> placement?
>>>>>> Ive seen them placed on Cab doors and on the Back Hatch.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any Ideas appreciated..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was tossing up the Idea of placing them on the Back Rear Side
>>>>> Pannel.  Not sure about it now tho.
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Hi all - made it to Eden on the far south coast of NSW where water is deep blue and it is blowing a cool southerly gale.

Gear engages a little stiffly but OK when engine is off. Engine on it is becoming increasingly difficult to engage the gear, as if tthe clutch is on the way out (which it may be, of course). Have started the Syncro a couple of times now in gear to over come the problem...

Is able to be changed reasonably OK on the move.

Thanks for your input. We about 460km from home -

On Friday, January 18, 2013, Les Harris wrote:

Thanks Scott. He’s in a remote area at the moment so I am reposting to him via his phone.


From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Daniel - Turbovans
Sent: 18 January 2013 15:26
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Cc: Les Harris
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Stiff Gearchange

first question is does it shift stiffly with the engine off. ?
if it does ..you think more linkage ..or possible trans internals.

there are lots of ways the shift linkage can get worn ..
or even just very dirty and not lubed well enough.

give an example...wasn't a syncro but same thing ..
would not come out of reverse easily sometimes.

after I unbolted the shift linakge from the side of the trans ..
I could see the ball on the end of the lever on the side of the trans had slid up that lever...jamming things up sometimes.
that lever can also get loose where it is held on splines by one 13mm hex nut ..
when that happens you have lost motion for sure.

though lost motion is sloppiness and not stiffness.
and ..
this is when it's fun and tricky ..
I've seen both at the same time ....very stiff to move, and lost motion too.
The shift linage needs regular lubrication ..
from the base of the shifter to side of the trans ..
like twice a year.
If you are sure the linkage is pretty good, and moving nicely and not sloppy ..
and not some clutch issue ..
you start thinking about transmission internals.

stay cool !
Scott
www.turbovans.com

On 1/17/2013 7:27 PM, Les Harris wrote:

Mark Kofahl is in Gippsland on his way back to Sydney after several weeks away with Deb and the two children.

He is experiencing stiff gear changes and more so when hot.

I thought that it might be fluid level but that’d OK.

Can anyone think of a possible reason?

Lost motion?

Les

Mar,

I would say you are in need of a new clutch - as you have suggested.

Hopefully the trip home presents no further issues.

Cheers,

Skot

On 18/01/2013 4:25 PM, Mark Kofahl wrote:

Hi all - made it to Eden on the far south coast of NSW where water is deep blue and it is blowing a cool southerly gale.


Gear engages a little stiffly but OK when engine is off. Engine on it is becoming increasingly difficult to engage the gear, as if tthe clutch is on the way out (which it may be, of course). Have started the Syncro a couple of times now in gear to over come the problem...

Is able to be changed reasonably OK on the move.

Thanks for your input. We about 460km from home -

On Friday, January 18, 2013, Les Harris wrote:

Thanks Scott. He’s in a remote area at the moment so I am reposting to him via his phone.


From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Daniel - Turbovans
Sent: 18 January 2013 15:26
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Cc: Les Harris
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Stiff Gearchange

first question is does it shift stiffly with the engine off. ?
if it does ..you think more linkage ..or possible trans internals.

there are lots of ways the shift linkage can get worn ..
or even just very dirty and not lubed well enough.

give an example...wasn't a syncro but same thing ..
would not come out of reverse easily sometimes.

after I unbolted the shift linakge from the side of the trans ..
I could see the ball on the end of the lever on the side of the trans had slid up that lever...jamming things up sometimes.
that lever can also get loose where it is held on splines by one 13mm hex nut ..
when that happens you have lost motion for sure.

though lost motion is sloppiness and not stiffness.
and ..
this is when it's fun and tricky ..
I've seen both at the same time ....very stiff to move, and lost motion too.
The shift linage needs regular lubrication ..
from the base of the shifter to side of the trans ..
like twice a year.
If you are sure the linkage is pretty good, and moving nicely and not sloppy ..
and not some clutch issue ..
you start thinking about transmission internals.

stay cool !
Scott
www.turbovans.com

On 1/17/2013 7:27 PM, Les Harris wrote:

Mark Kofahl is in Gippsland on his way back to Sydney after several weeks away with Deb and the two children.

He is experiencing stiff gear changes and more so when hot.

I thought that it might be fluid level but that’d OK.

Can anyone think of a possible reason?

Lost motion?

Les


About all you can do is visually check whatever parts of the linkage that you can see.  You should get home on it.  I once drove a Beetle nearly 1000km after I broke a clutch cable on an overnight drive from Sydney to Brisbane.  That was quite entertaining and not something that I would like to repeat!!

Les


From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark Kofahl
Sent: 18 January 2013 16:26
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Stiff Gearchange

 

Hi all - made it to Eden on the far south coast of NSW where water is deep blue and it is blowing a cool southerly gale.

 

Gear engages a little stiffly but OK when engine is off. Engine on it is becoming increasingly difficult to engage the gear, as if tthe clutch is on the way out (which it may be, of course). Have started the Syncro a couple of times now in gear to over come the problem... 

 

 Is able to be changed reasonably OK on the move. 

 

Thanks for your input. We about 460km from home - 

I think you are right - it feels like it is the clutch. Hopefully the journey as not as entertaining as Les's epic trip. I had a clutch cable go on my first Beetle and my remaining miles were considerably less.

We're parked for the night now in Eden and will make for home tomorrow :)



On Friday, January 18, 2013, Les Harris wrote:

About all you can do is visually check whatever parts of the linkage that you can see. You should get home on it. I once drove a Beetle nearly 1000km after I broke a clutch cable on an overnight drive from Sydney to Brisbane. That was quite entertaining and not something that I would like to repeat!!

Les


From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark Kofahl
Sent: 18 January 2013 16:26
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Stiff Gearchange

Hi all - made it to Eden on the far south coast of NSW where water is deep blue and it is blowing a cool southerly gale.

Gear engages a little stiffly but OK when engine is off. Engine on it is becoming increasingly difficult to engage the gear, as if tthe clutch is on the way out (which it may be, of course). Have started the Syncro a couple of times now in gear to over come the problem...

Is able to be changed reasonably OK on the move.

Thanks for your input. We about 460km from home -

Best of luck Mark.

The heat should be much less tomorrow so hopefully that helps.

Remember to take lots of syncro photos and post them up.

Cheers,

Skot

On 18/01/2013 5:41 PM, Mark Kofahl wrote:

I think you are right - it feels like it is the clutch. Hopefully the journey as not as entertaining as Les's epic trip. I had a clutch cable go on my first Beetle and my remaining miles were considerably less.


We're parked for the night now in Eden and will make for home tomorrow :)



On Friday, January 18, 2013, Les Harris wrote:

About all you can do is visually check whatever parts of the linkage that you can see. You should get home on it. I once drove a Beetle nearly 1000km after I broke a clutch cable on an overnight drive from Sydney to Brisbane. That was quite entertaining and not something that I would like to repeat!!

Les


From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark Kofahl
Sent: 18 January 2013 16:26
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Stiff Gearchange

Hi all - made it to Eden on the far south coast of NSW where water is deep blue and it is blowing a cool southerly gale.

Gear engages a little stiffly but OK when engine is off. Engine on it is becoming increasingly difficult to engage the gear, as if tthe clutch is on the way out (which it may be, of course). Have started the Syncro a couple of times now in gear to over come the problem...

Is able to be changed reasonably OK on the move.

Thanks for your input. We about 460km from home -


Hi Mark,
It's at times such as this, had you previously mastered the art of clutchless gear changing (pretty easy to do in any veedub, just needs practice to perfect), would serve you well tomorrow and get you home with less drama. Much the same scenario as with a Splitty or Bay etc when the clutch cable breaks and you need to get home.
Cheers.
Ken



To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: markkofahl@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 17:41:04 +1100
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Stiff Gearchange

 
I think you are right - it feels like it is the clutch.  Hopefully the journey as not as entertaining as Les's epic trip. I had a clutch cable go on my first Beetle and my remaining miles were considerably less.

We're parked for the night now in Eden and will make for home tomorrow :)



On Friday, January 18, 2013, Les Harris wrote:
 

About all you can do is visually check whatever parts of the linkage that you can see.  You should get home on it.  I once drove a Beetle nearly 1000km after I broke a clutch cable on an overnight drive from Sydney to Brisbane.  That was quite entertaining and not something that I would like to repeat!!

Les


From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark Kofahl
Sent: 18 January 2013 16:26
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Stiff Gearchange

 

Hi all - made it to Eden on the far south coast of NSW where water is deep blue and it is blowing a cool southerly gale.

 

Gear engages a little stiffly but OK when engine is off. Engine on it is becoming increasingly difficult to engage the gear, as if tthe clutch is on the way out (which it may be, of course). Have started the Syncro a couple of times now in gear to over come the problem... 

 

 Is able to be changed reasonably OK on the move. 

 

Thanks for your input. We about 460km from home - 



Mark,Skot Les and others.
Yes I did snap mine off(I managed to get home first from Canberra),but I didnt have any stiff gear changes before hand,rather the opposite.
My gear throw just got more and more as I struggled with the weekend traffic coming into Sydney on the Hume.
By the time I got home selecting 1st gear,the gear knob was hitting the radio.
After inspection and removal,I snapped it.But it was very close.Any 25 year old van could suffer the same fate.Keep an eye on the shaft under the boot for fractures.It is common.
I would suspect,long term stiff changes would increase the chances of a fractured gear stick.

For a sudden stiffness in gear change,maybe try loosening nuts on floor at shifter,run it through the gears,select 2nd and tighten the nuts.Give that ago.
If not maybe a clutch issue????
BenC

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Mr Scott Pitcher wrote:
>
> Les,
>
> Mark needs to be careful that he does force the gear-stick too much as
> Ben Croft managed to snap his clean-off.
>
> May be worth checking that the gear stick is still healthy as Ben
> struggled for a while before his stick completely came off. He gave me
> all these details @ the Christmas Mid North Coast off-road adventure.
>
> Worth checking the base of the lever under the rubber boot - just in case!
>
> Cheers and best of luck Mark,
>
> Skot
>
>
>
> On 18/01/2013 2:27 PM, Les Harris wrote:
> >
> > Mark Kofahl is in Gippsland on his way back to Sydney after several
> > weeks away with Deb and the two children.
> >
> > He is experiencing stiff gear changes and more so when hot.
> >
> > I thought that it might be fluid level but that'd OK.
> >
> > Can anyone think of a possible reason?
> >
> > Lost motion?
> >
> > Les
> >
> >
>


Thanks to Graham and Les for your valuable measurements. 

Stickers are now on. 

Despite best efforts perfect alignment on the front one was not achieved, but anyway its good to go! Side ones are near perfect!!.

Now I am havibg a Vodka and Tonic to recover from Sticker Anxiety..#!@*!$!#



I have now read Marks reply to the original post and the replied posts of the participants in this thread and agree on the diagnosis.
Sounds like a clutch,take it easy.
Mark,I hope its not your Syncros.
BenC

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Ben" wrote:
>
> Mark,Skot Les and others.
> Yes I did snap mine off(I managed to get home first from Canberra),but I didnt have any stiff gear changes before hand,rather the opposite.
> My gear throw just got more and more as I struggled with the weekend traffic coming into Sydney on the Hume.
> By the time I got home selecting 1st gear,the gear knob was hitting the radio.
> After inspection and removal,I snapped it.But it was very close.Any 25 year old van could suffer the same fate.Keep an eye on the shaft under the boot for fractures.It is common.
> I would suspect,long term stiff changes would increase the chances of a fractured gear stick.
>
> For a sudden stiffness in gear change,maybe try loosening nuts on floor at shifter,run it through the gears,select 2nd and tighten the nuts.Give that ago.
> If not maybe a clutch issue????
> BenC
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Mr Scott Pitcher wrote:
> >
> > Les,
> >
> > Mark needs to be careful that he does force the gear-stick too much as
> > Ben Croft managed to snap his clean-off.
> >
> > May be worth checking that the gear stick is still healthy as Ben
> > struggled for a while before his stick completely came off. He gave me
> > all these details @ the Christmas Mid North Coast off-road adventure.
> >
> > Worth checking the base of the lever under the rubber boot - just in case!
> >
> > Cheers and best of luck Mark,
> >
> > Skot
> >
> >
> >
> > On 18/01/2013 2:27 PM, Les Harris wrote:
> > >
> > > Mark Kofahl is in Gippsland on his way back to Sydney after several
> > > weeks away with Deb and the two children.
> > >
> > > He is experiencing stiff gear changes and more so when hot.
> > >
> > > I thought that it might be fluid level but that'd OK.
> > >
> > > Can anyone think of a possible reason?
> > >
> > > Lost motion?
> > >
> > > Les
> > >
> > >
> >
>
They look the business Rowan.

Excellent job.

Cheers,

Skot

On 18/01/2013 7:49 PM, Rowan Hardinge wrote:
 


Thanks to Graham and Les for your valuable measurements. 

Stickers are now on. 

Despite best efforts perfect alignment on the front one was not achieved, but anyway its good to go! Side ones are near perfect!!.

Now I am havibg a Vodka and Tonic to recover from Sticker Anxiety..#!@*!$!#




Hi all,

I have recently found finding reverse can sometimes be a little stiff..

Any suggestions??

Tony (Ballarat)


From: Ben <bencroft96@yahoo.com>;
To: <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com>;
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Stiff Gearchange
Sent: Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:00:33 AM

 

I have now read Marks reply to the original post and the replied posts of the participants in this thread and agree on the diagnosis.
Sounds like a clutch,take it easy.
Mark,I hope its not your Syncros.
BenC

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Ben" wrote:
>
> Mark,Skot Les and others.
> Yes I did snap mine off(I managed to get home first from Canberra),but I didnt have any stiff gear changes before hand,rather the opposite.
> My gear throw just got more and more as I struggled with the weekend traffic coming into Sydney on the Hume.
> By the time I got home selecting 1st gear,the gear knob was hitting the radio.
> After inspection and removal,I snapped it.But it was very close.Any 25 year old van could suffer the same fate.Keep an eye on the shaft under the boot for fractures.It is common.
> I would suspect,long term stiff changes would increase the chances of a fractured gear stick.
>
> For a sudden stiffness in gear change,maybe try loosening nuts on floor at shifter,run it through the gears,select 2nd and tighten the nuts.Give that ago.
> If not maybe a clutch issue????
> BenC
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Mr Scott Pitcher wrote:
> >
> > Les,
> >
> > Mark needs to be careful that he does force the gear-stick too much as
> > Ben Croft managed to snap his clean-off.
> >
> > May be worth checking that the gear stick is still healthy as Ben
> > struggled for a while before his stick completely came off. He gave me
> > all these details @ the Christmas Mid North Coast off-road adventure.
> >
> > Worth checking the base of the lever under the rubber boot - just in case!
> >
> > Cheers and best of luck Mark,
> >
> > Skot
> >
> >
> >
> > On 18/01/2013 2:27 PM, Les Harris wrote:
> > >
> > > Mark Kofahl is in Gippsland on his way back to Sydney after several
> > > weeks away with Deb and the two children.
> > >
> > > He is experiencing stiff gear changes and more so when hot.
> > >
> > > I thought that it might be fluid level but that'd OK.
> > >
> > > Can anyone think of a possible reason?
> > >
> > > Lost motion?
> > >
> > > Les
> > >
> > >
> >
>

Tony,

When it is only one gear that is hard to select, commonly either first or reverse but not both, it is usually gear linkage adjustment.

Les


From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tony Marshall
Sent: 18 January 2013 22:04
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Stiff Gearchange
 

Hi all,
I have recently found finding reverse can sometimes be a little stiff..
Any suggestions??
Tony (Ballarat)

 

Mark,
 
Sounds like clutch isn't disengaging properly; it might be kinder on your synchros to buy a bottle of brake fluid in the morning and try bleeding the clutch fluid before heading off, could be all it is.  Syncros have hydraulic clutch linkage, like 2WD T3s, right?
Just a thought,
 
Neil.
From: Ben <bencroft96@yahoo.com>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 18 January 2013 8:00 PM
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Stiff Gearchange
 
I have now read Marks reply to the original post and the replied posts of the participants in this thread and agree on the diagnosis.
Sounds like a clutch,take it easy.
Mark,I hope its not your Syncros.
BenC

--- In mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com, "Ben" wrote:
>
> Mark,Skot Les and others.
> Yes I did snap mine off(I managed to get home first from Canberra),but I didnt have any stiff gear changes before hand,rather the opposite.
> My gear throw just got more and more as I struggled with the weekend traffic coming into Sydney on the Hume.
> By the time I got home selecting 1st gear,the gear knob was hitting the radio.
> After inspection and removal,I snapped it.But it was very close.Any 25 year old van could suffer the same fate.Keep an eye on the shaft under the boot for fractures.It is common.
> I would suspect,long term stiff changes would increase the chances of a fractured gear stick.
>
> For a sudden stiffness in gear change,maybe try loosening nuts on floor at shifter,run it through the gears,select 2nd and tighten the nuts.Give that ago.
> If not maybe a clutch issue????
> BenC
>
> --- In mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com, Mr Scott Pitcher wrote:
> >
> > Les,
> >
> > Mark needs to be careful that he does force the gear-stick too much as
> > Ben Croft managed to snap his clean-off.
> >
> > May be worth checking that the gear stick is still healthy as Ben
> > struggled for a while before his stick completely came off. He gave me
> > all these details @ the Christmas Mid North Coast off-road adventure.
> >
> > Worth checking the base of the lever under the rubber boot - just in case!
> >
> > Cheers and best of luck Mark,
> >
> > Skot
> >
> >
> >
> > On 18/01/2013 2:27 PM, Les Harris wrote:
> > >
> > > Mark Kofahl is in Gippsland on his way back to Sydney after several
> > > weeks away with Deb and the two children.
> > >
> > > He is experiencing stiff gear changes and more so when hot.
> > >
> > > I thought that it might be fluid level but that'd OK.
> > >
> > > Can anyone think of a possible reason?
> > >
> > > Lost motion?
> > >
> > > Les
> > >
> > >
> >
>

Check your slave cylinder mounting plate / movement whilst depressing clutch.

An additional tie back brace was installed to reduce the main slave cyl mount plate flexing.

I tried bleeding my system,then taking out play at either end of the hydraulic actuators and finally rudi on Bribie island told me to undo 17 mm bolt which fastens the slave cylinder to the bell housing and then preload the Slave cylinder to push the frame section it is bolted to around the throwout shaft to be pressing against the bellhousing whilst retightening the above mentioned 17mm bolt.

I did and it fixes my gear changing difficulties when engine was running by reducing flexing which in Turn restored my clutch disengagement.

Qed.

Sent from my iPhone

On 18/01/2013, at 9:19 PM, neil smith <jackthebearau@yahoo.com> wrote:

Mark,
 
Sounds like clutch isn't disengaging properly; it might be kinder on your synchros to buy a bottle of brake fluid in the morning and try bleeding the clutch fluid before heading off, could be all it is.  Syncros have hydraulic clutch linkage, like 2WD T3s, right?
Just a thought,
 
Neil.
From: Ben <bencroft96@yahoo.com>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 18 January 2013 8:00 PM
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Stiff Gearchange
 
I have now read Marks reply to the original post and the replied posts of the participants in this thread and agree on the diagnosis.
Sounds like a clutch,take it easy.
Mark,I hope its not your Syncros.
BenC

--- In mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com, "Ben" wrote:
>
> Mark,Skot Les and others.
> Yes I did snap mine off(I managed to get home first from Canberra),but I didnt have any stiff gear changes before hand,rather the opposite.
> My gear throw just got more and more as I struggled with the weekend traffic coming into Sydney on the Hume.
> By the time I got home selecting 1st gear,the gear knob was hitting the radio.
> After inspection and removal,I snapped it.But it was very close.Any 25 year old van could suffer the same fate.Keep an eye on the shaft under the boot for fractures.It is common.
> I would suspect,long term stiff changes would increase the chances of a fractured gear stick.
>
> For a sudden stiffness in gear change,maybe try loosening nuts on floor at shifter,run it through the gears,select 2nd and tighten the nuts.Give that ago.
> If not maybe a clutch issue????
> BenC
>
> --- In mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com, Mr Scott Pitcher wrote:
> >
> > Les,
> >
> > Mark needs to be careful that he does force the gear-stick too much as
> > Ben Croft managed to snap his clean-off.
> >
> > May be worth checking that the gear stick is still healthy as Ben
> > struggled for a while before his stick completely came off. He gave me
> > all these details @ the Christmas Mid North Coast off-road adventure.
> >
> > Worth checking the base of the lever under the rubber boot - just in case!
> >
> > Cheers and best of luck Mark,
> >
> > Skot
> >
> >
> >
> > On 18/01/2013 2:27 PM, Les Harris wrote:
> > >
> > > Mark Kofahl is in Gippsland on his way back to Sydney after several
> > > weeks away with Deb and the two children.
> > >
> > > He is experiencing stiff gear changes and more so when hot.
> > >
> > > I thought that it might be fluid level but that'd OK.
> > >
> > > Can anyone think of a possible reason?
> > >
> > > Lost motion?
> > >
> > > Les
> > >
> > >
> >
>

Les & everyone,
I had a problem with very stiff gearchange with my Syncro when returning from WA in 2000. It turned out to be linkages, particularly where the gearchange selection rod slides through as shown in the top image in the following page:

When I cleaned and greased where the rod slides through, it freed up completely.

Worth a try.

Bruce.

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Les Harris" wrote:
>
>
>
> Mark Kofahl is in Gippsland on his way back to Sydney after several weeks
> away with Deb and the two children.
>
> He is experiencing stiff gear changes and more so when hot.
>
> I thought that it might be fluid level but that'd OK.
>
> Can anyone think of a possible reason?
>
> Lost motion?
>
> Les
>
Mark I'm wondering whether unknowingly 1 of my viagra tablets rolled out of my pocket down your gear change when we met with Les at Williamstown during your time down South.
Sorry to hear about your woes ,it does sound like a clutch although I remember having a similar problem with a T2 Kombi and adjusting the plate above the gear shift allowed me to easily select gears but reduced the range of what was selectable. The plate was worn and replacing it was a cheap fix.  Not sure that the T2 mechanism is the same though. Will you head off to Canberra and up the Hume so that you can do most of the remaining trip in top gear? Good luck. I'd hate to think where I would start if I had the same problem with my T5 DSG gearbox!
Roger


From: Mark Kofahl <markkofahl@gmail.com>
To: "Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com" <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, 18 January 2013 4:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Stiff Gearchange

 
Hi all - made it to Eden on the far south coast of NSW where water is deep blue and it is blowing a cool southerly gale.

Gear engages a little stiffly but OK when engine is off. Engine on it is becoming increasingly difficult to engage the gear, as if tthe clutch is on the way out (which it may be, of course). Have started the Syncro a couple of times now in gear to over come the problem... 

 Is able to be changed reasonably OK on the move. 

Thanks for your input. We about 460km from home - 

On Friday, January 18, 2013, Les Harris wrote:
 
Thanks Scott.  He’s in a remote area at the moment so I am reposting to him via his phone.
 

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Daniel - Turbovans
Sent: 18 January 2013 15:26
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Cc: Les Harris
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Stiff Gearchange
 
 
first question is does it shift stiffly with the engine off. ?
if it does ..you think more linkage ..or possible trans internals.

there are lots of ways the shift linkage can get worn ..
or even just very dirty and not lubed well enough.
 
give an example...wasn't a syncro but same thing ..
would not come out of reverse easily sometimes.

after I unbolted the shift linakge from the side of the trans ..
I could see the ball on the end of the lever on the side of the trans had slid up that lever...jamming things up sometimes.
that lever can also get loose where it is held on splines by one 13mm hex nut ..
when that happens you have lost motion for sure.

though lost motion is sloppiness and not stiffness.
and ..
this is when it's fun and tricky ..
I've seen both at the same time ....very stiff to move, and lost motion too. 
The shift linage needs regular lubrication ..
from the base of the shifter to side of the trans ..
like twice a year.
  If you are sure the linkage is pretty good, and moving nicely and not sloppy ..
and not some clutch issue ..
you start thinking about transmission internals.

stay cool !
Scott
www.turbovans.com
On 1/17/2013 7:27 PM, Les Harris wrote:
 
 
Mark Kofahl is in Gippsland on his way back to Sydney after several weeks away with Deb and the two children.
He is experiencing stiff gear changes and more so when hot.
I thought that it might be fluid level but that’d OK. 
Can anyone think of a possible reason?
Lost motion?
Les
 


Hi Roger,

If you start having problems with DSG.
Better open the checkbook with a chunk of change at the ready - 6K for a replacement box!

Nice Box tho, got one in my TDI Golf! If mine goes I think I will have to scrap it for parts!



Sent from Yahoo!7 Mail on Android



From: Roger Bell <bellrmit@yahoo.com.au>;
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com>;
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Stiff Gearchange
Sent: Fri, Jan 18, 2013 11:34:24 PM

 

Mark I'm wondering whether unknowingly 1 of my viagra tablets rolled out of my pocket down your gear change when we met with Les at Williamstown during your time down South.
Sorry to hear about your woes ,it does sound like a clutch although I remember having a similar problem with a T2 Kombi and adjusting the plate above the gear shift allowed me to easily select gears but reduced the range of what was selectable. The plate was worn and replacing it was a cheap fix.  Not sure that the T2 mechanism is the same though. Will you head off to Canberra and up the Hume so that you can do most of the remaining trip in top gear? Good luck. I'd hate to think where I would start if I had the same problem with my T5 DSG gearbox!
Roger


From: Mark Kofahl <markkofahl@gmail.com>
To: "Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com" <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, 18 January 2013 4:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Stiff Gearchange

 
Hi all - made it to Eden on the far south coast of NSW where water is deep blue and it is blowing a cool southerly gale.

Gear engages a little stiffly but OK when engine is off. Engine on it is becoming increasingly difficult to engage the gear, as if tthe clutch is on the way out (which it may be, of course). Have started the Syncro a couple of times now in gear to over come the problem... 

 Is able to be changed reasonably OK on the move. 

Thanks for your input. We about 460km from home - 

On Friday, January 18, 2013, Les Harris wrote:
 
Thanks Scott.  He’s in a remote area at the moment so I am reposting to him via his phone.
 

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Daniel - Turbovans
Sent: 18 January 2013 15:26
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Cc: Les Harris
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Stiff Gearchange
 
 
first question is does it shift stiffly with the engine off. ?
if it does ..you think more linkage ..or possible trans internals.

there are lots of ways the shift linkage can get worn ..
or even just very dirty and not lubed well enough.
 
give an example...wasn't a syncro but same thing ..
would not come out of reverse easily sometimes.

after I unbolted the shift linakge from the side of the trans ..
I could see the ball on the end of the lever on the side of the trans had slid up that lever...jamming things up sometimes.
that lever can also get loose where it is held on splines by one 13mm hex nut ..
when that happens you have lost motion for sure.

though lost motion is sloppiness and not stiffness.
and ..
this is when it's fun and tricky ..
I've seen both at the same time ....very stiff to move, and lost motion too. 
The shift linage needs regular lubrication ..
from the base of the shifter to side of the trans ..
like twice a year.
  If you are sure the linkage is pretty good, and moving nicely and not sloppy ..
and not some clutch issue ..
you start thinking about transmission internals.

stay cool !
Scott
www.turbovans.com
On 1/17/2013 7:27 PM, Les Harris wrote:
 
 
Mark Kofahl is in Gippsland on his way back to Sydney after several weeks away with Deb and the two children.
He is experiencing stiff gear changes and more so when hot.
I thought that it might be fluid level but that’d OK. 
Can anyone think of a possible reason?
Lost motion?
Les