new traka

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Roger Bayley - 89 GL Syncro Caravelle WV2ZZZ25ZKGO48435
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Hi Les
 
VIN WV2ZZZ25ZMG017932
 
1991 Syncro de lux , original owner
 
Graham Adams
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Les Harris
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2013 12:40 PM
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] VIN NUMBERS

 

VIN NUMBERS

Over the years, various avenues have been tried but without success.  I have an idea that I am going to follow up through one of our German members that might be a lot more productive.

In the meanwhile, we could help ourselves by asking every member to send in his VIN number – it has to be on every registration certificate and it is on the Syncro in several places.  This would enable us to start building a register and keep track of the few left in Australia and New Zealand .

Les

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jon Bartlett
Sent: 27 November 2013 15:32
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Trakka Numbers

Hi Les,

Would VW be able to assist? Presumably they would hold numbers sent to Australia and perhaps those destined for Trakka?

Cheers,

Jon.


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Les,

My ex Telecom's is #WV2ZZZ25ZLG109265

Theo

 

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Les Harris
Sent: Thursday, 28 November 2013 12:40 PM
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] VIN NUMBERS

 

 

VIN NUMBERS

Over the years, various avenues have been tried but without success.  I have an idea that I am going to follow up through one of our German members that might be a lot more productive.

In the meanwhile, we could help ourselves by asking every member to send in his VIN number – it has to be on every registration certificate and it is on the Syncro in several places.  This would enable us to start building a register and keep track of the few left in Australia and New Zealand.

Les

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jon Bartlett
Sent: 27 November 2013 15:32
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Trakka Numbers

 

Hi Les,

 

Would VW be able to assist? Presumably they would hold numbers sent to Australia and perhaps those destined for Trakka?

 

Cheers,

Jon.



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Hi Les. Mine was built in August 1988 and on the road in Victoria in January 1989 after a camper conversion by Suncamper in Sydney. Wish I could trace the original owner in Victoria as he did a lot of extra work. It had a very brief time with a second owner in Melbourne before I got the van and did more mods. The second owner claimed he did not get any paperwork from the first owner. Hmmm!!

 

VIN WV2ZZZ25ZKG027315

 

Regards, Peter from Port Mac

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Hi Roger Bayley,
 
Mine's a '89 silver Caravelle GL Syncro. What colour is yours?
 
Gerald
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On Thu, 28/11/13, Graham Adams <g.adams2@bigpond.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] VIN NUMBERS
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Received: Thursday, 28 November, 2013, 10:27 PM

Hi Les

Since new Oct "89 wv2zzz25zkg114047 and from '09 '90 wv2zzz25zlg040022



Paul





















Hi Les

VIN
WV2ZZZ25ZMG017932

1991 Syncro de
lux , original
owner

Graham Adams




----- Original Message -----

From:
Les
Harris
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com


Sent: Thursday,
November 28, 2013 12:40
PM
Subject:
[Syncro_T3_Australia] VIN
NUMBERS





VIN

NUMBERS
Over
the years,
various avenues have been tried but without success.
I have an idea that
I am going to follow up through one of our German members
that might be a lot
more productive.
In
the meanwhile,
we could help ourselves by asking every member to send in
his VIN number – it
has to be on every registration certificate and it is on
the Syncro in several
places. This would enable us to start building a
register and keep track
of the few left in Australia and New
Zealand .
Les





From:
Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jon
Bartlett
Sent: 27
November 2013 15:32
To:
Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re:
[Syncro_T3_Australia] Trakka
Numbers


Hi
Les,






Would
VW be able to assist? Presumably they would hold
numbers sent to Australia and perhaps those destined for
Trakka?



Cheers,









Jon.
27

HI Les,


looks like I started something there


91 Syncro Caravelle Trakka WV 2ZZZ25ZNGO20298


89 Caravelle 7 seater camper conversion WV 2ZZZ25ZKGO48432


Yes one has to go. Probably next year once Trakka gets Subi donk fitted.


Mark



---In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, <geraldandrobyn@...> wrote:

Hi Roger Bayley,
 
Mine's a '89 silver Caravelle GL Syncro. What colour is yours?
 
Gerald
28

 

Can anyone tell me where the normal coolant temperature gauge gets its reading from?  It is no doubt in Bentleys somewhere – just not mentioned in the Cooling section – of course!!

Les

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From your thermostat housing bro

Sent from my iPhone

On 30/11/2013, at 12:04 PM, "Les Harris" <leslieharris@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

 

Can anyone tell me where the normal coolant temperature gauge gets its reading from?  It is no doubt in Bentleys somewhere – just not mentioned in the Cooling section – of course!!

Les

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Les,

Unless I'm mistaken, the temperature gauge sender comes out of the forward side of the housing for the thermostat.

See attached.

Peter



--Original Message Text---
From: Les Harris
Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2013 13:04:35 +1100







Can anyone tell me where the normal coolant temperature gauge gets its reading from? It is no doubt in Bentleys somewhere  just not mentioned in the Cooling section  of course!!

Les





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Hamish,

That is the T2 sensor and might or might not be what goes to the gauge.  The T2 is the sensor that tells the ECU what the coolant temperature is so that it can set the ignition and the fuel injection to the right values.  Mine malfunctioned a year or so ago and starting was very difficult until I found a new one!  Still, it might also send to the gauge; I will have to comb through the wiring diagram until I find it – something that I was hoping to avoid.

Les  

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of HamishD
Sent: 30 November 2013 16:09
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Temperature Gauge Sender 

From your thermostat housing bro


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Les it is on page 19.11 of the Bentley and is labelled twice. "Temperature Sender coolant display" and is also labelled incorrectly " Temperature Sender for injection".


It is also on page 40 of the genuine VW factory workshop manual 2.1 ltr EFI Engine (Digijet,Digifant) labelled correctly.



---In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, <leslieharris@...> wrote:

 

Can anyone tell me where the normal coolant temperature gauge gets its reading from?  It is no doubt in Bentleys somewhere – just not mentioned in the Cooling section – of course!!

Les

33
There is 2 sensors in thermostats housing. 1 gauge. 1 ecu

Sent from my iPhone

On 30/11/2013, at 3:23 PM, "Les Harris" <leslieharris@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

Hamish,

That is the T2 sensor and might or might not be what goes to the gauge.  The T2 is the sensor that tells the ECU what the coolant temperature is so that it can set the ignition and the fuel injection to the right values.  Mine malfunctioned a year or so ago and starting was very difficult until I found a new one!  Still, it might also send to the gauge; I will have to comb through the wiring diagram until I find it – something that I was hoping to avoid.

Les  

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of HamishD
Sent: 30 November 2013 16:09
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Temperature Gauge Sender 

From your thermostat housing bro


34

Phill,

Thanks for the reply.  I thought that the T2 gave the ECU its primary temperature information.  If it doesn’t, what does?  I would have to unload a heap of building material from my Syncro at the moment to inspect this sender.

Les

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of plander@optusnet.com.au
Sent: 30 November 2013 16:34
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] RE: Temperature Gauge Sender

Les it is on page 19.11 of the Bentley and is labelled twice. "Temperature Sender coolant display" and is also labelled incorrectly "Temperature Sender for injection".

It is also on page 40 of the genuine VW factory workshop manual 2.1 ltr EFI Engine (Digijet,Digifant) labelled correctly.

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G'day Gerald - Mine is silver too, with blue upholstery.
Roger.
36
You guys have probably got this figured out by now..
there are two temp sensors on the thermostat housing of a syncro vanagon.

one talks to the ecu, commonly called Temp Sensor II ,
the other one..
which is a screw-in single contact metal sender ( assuming you have the aluminum syncro t-stat housing and not the plastic 2WD one ) ........is the one that talks to the stock temp gauge.
  I'd want to keep both though ......my stock gauge and my new aftermarket one ..
I would look into drilling and taping another spot in the aluminum t-stat housing.
I have some off the vehicle..
next time I see one I'll look to see how practical that might be.

scott
Oregon

On 11/29/2013 9:23 PM, Les Harris wrote:
 

Hamish,

That is the T2 sensor and might or might not be what goes to the gauge.  The T2 is the sensor that tells the ECU what the coolant temperature is so that it can set the ignition and the fuel injection to the right values.  Mine malfunctioned a year or so ago and starting was very difficult until I found a new one!  Still, it might also send to the gauge; I will have to comb through the wiring diagram until I find it – something that I was hoping to avoid.

Les  

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of HamishD
Sent: 30 November 2013 16:09
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Temperature Gauge Sender 

From your thermostat housing bro



37

Scott,

That saves me having to unload my Syncro to look at the housing.  Now it makes sense – the T2 tells the ECU what’s happening and the other one tells the temp gauge what’s happening.

Lots can be lost in translation and this appears to have happened in this case where page 19.11 says “Temperature Sender coolant display”.  Now that we have established that ‘coolant display’ means temperature gauge, all becomes clear.  

Joachim is no doubt laughing his head off now!!

Les

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Daniel
Sent: 30 November 2013 18:14
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Temperature Gauge Sender

You guys have probably got this figured out by now..
there are two temp sensors on the thermostat housing of a syncro vanagon.
one talks to the ecu, commonly called Temp Sensor II ,
the other one..
which is a screw-in single contact metal sender ( assuming you have the aluminum syncro t-stat housing and not the plastic 2WD one ) ........is the one that talks to the stock temp gauge.
  I'd want to keep both though ......my stock gauge and my new aftermarket one ..
I would look into drilling and taping another spot in the aluminum t-stat housing.
I have some off the vehicle..
next time I see one I'll look to see how practical that might be.
scott
Oregon

38

Yes that's correct. The Bentley is wrong. T2 is only for T2.



---In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, <leslieharris@...> wrote:

Phill,

Thanks for the reply.  I thought that the T2 gave the ECU its primary temperature information.  If it doesn’t, what does?  I would have to unload a heap of building material from my Syncro at the moment to inspect this sender.

Les

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of plander@...
Sent: 30 November 2013 16:34
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] RE: Temperature Gauge Sender

Les it is on page 19.11 of the Bentley and is labelled twice. "Temperature Sender coolant display" and is also labelled incorrectly "Temperature Sender for injection".

It is also on page 40 of the genuine VW factory workshop manual 2.1 ltr EFI Engine (Digijet,Digifant) labelled correctly.

39

hi jon sorry took so ,long to repliy yes I have both side and rear annex what area are you  if you want to have alook quite welcome im down south Gippsland  cheers andy

40
 89 gold pack traka vinwv2zzz25zkg100361cheers les, andy sherriff


On Friday, 29 November 2013 4:55 PM, Paul Nevin <paulnevinfloors@yahoo.com> wrote:
 

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On Thu, 28/11/13, Graham Adams <g.adams2@bigpond.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] VIN NUMBERS
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Received: Thursday, 28 November, 2013, 10:27 PM

Hi Les

Since new Oct "89 wv2zzz25zkg114047 and from '09 '90 wv2zzz25zlg040022



Paul








 












Hi Les
 
VIN
WV2ZZZ25ZMG017932
 
1991 Syncro de
lux , original
owner
 
Graham Adams
 
 
 

----- Original Message -----

From:
Les
Harris
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com


Sent: Thursday,
November 28, 2013 12:40
PM
Subject:
[Syncro_T3_Australia] VIN
NUMBERS

 



VIN

NUMBERS
Over
the years,
various avenues have been tried but without success.
 I have an idea that
I am going to follow up through one of our German members
that might be a lot
more productive.
In
the meanwhile,
we could help ourselves by asking every member to send in
his VIN number – it
has to be on every registration certificate and it is on
the Syncro in several
places.  This would enable us to start building a
register and keep track
of the few left in Australia and New
Zealand .
Les





From:
Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jon
Bartlett
Sent: 27
November 2013 15:32
To:
Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re:
[Syncro_T3_Australia] Trakka
Numbers


Hi
Les,






Would
VW be able to assist? Presumably they would hold
numbers sent to Australia and perhaps those destined for
Trakka?



Cheers,









Jon.