Oil pressure gauge

81
I see that you have Valentine's Day on your mind, young man.


BenT


On Feb 14, 2011, at 12:57 AM, Hartmut Kiehn <hartis@live.com.au> wrote:

>
>
> BenT, life is a steep learning curve for all of us, especially for us Syncronauts. Colour Silk you can look up in the Corian web, Sylk is an Aussi lubricant you buy in your Nature Shop,
>
> it's made from Kiwi Vine cuttings and VERY slippery, worth a try on those fork things, otherwise reserved for intimate moments . Happy ?? Hartis
>
>
>
>
82
On Feb 14, 2011, at 1:15 AM, "Ken Garratt " <unclekenz@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Heh my brain just decided to work at last ... all too briefly! Why not use JB Weld as the adhesive?
> Cheers.
> Ken


Why not shape JB Weld as bushes?


BenT


>
83
No comment on historical events , daddy.
 
Hartis from the Port side......
 
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: syncro@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 01:26:52 -0800
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] RE: Gear selector

 
I see that you have Valentine's Day on your mind, young man.

BenT

On Feb 14, 2011, at 12:57 AM, Hartmut Kiehn <hartis@live.com.au> wrote:

>
>
> BenT, life is a steep learning curve for all of us, especially for us Syncronauts. Colour Silk you can look up in the Corian web, Sylk is an Aussi lubricant you buy in your Nature Shop,
>
> it's made from Kiwi Vine cuttings and VERY slippery, worth a try on those fork things, otherwise reserved for intimate moments . Happy ?? Hartis
>
>
>
>

84
Having used JB Weld on a number of repair jobs, I do swear by it!

But no, my money is still on a Corian bush, complimented with a JB Weld fastener.
Ken


-----Original Message-----
From: BenT Syncro <syncro@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, 14 February 2011 8:29 PM
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] RE: Gear selector


On Feb 14, 2011, at 1:15 AM, "Ken Garratt " <unclekenz@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Heh my brain just decided to work at last ... all too briefly! Why not use JB Weld as the adhesive?
> Cheers.
> Ken

Why not shape JB Weld as bushes?

BenT

>
85

The reason that nylon and nylon derivatives are used in applications involving sliding loads is because of their very low coefficient of friction.  

In this case, I would leave experimenting with materials until the size, shape, fit, clearances, etc, have been proven by the process that Ken is currently pursuing.

Les

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Ken Garratt
Sent: 14 February 2011 20:42
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] RE: Gear selector

 

Having used JB Weld on a number of repair jobs, I do swear by it!

 

But  no, my money is still on a Corian  bush, complimented with a JB Weld fastener.

Ken

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: BenT Syncro <syncro@gmail.com>

Sent: Monday, 14 February 2011 8:29 PM

To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] RE: Gear selector

 

 

On Feb 14, 2011, at 1:15 AM, "Ken Garratt " <unclekenz@hotmail.com> wrote:

 > Heh my brain just decided to work at last ... all too briefly! Why not use JB Weld as the adhesive?

 > Cheers.

 > Ken

 

 Why not shape JB Weld as bushes?

 

 BenT

 

 >

 

 

 

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86
Very well.

I'm going to sleep or a change have a long drive in less than 4 hours.


Cheers,

BenT

On Feb 14, 2011, at 1:48 AM, "Les Harris" <leslieharris@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

The reason that nylon and nylon derivatives are used in applications involving sliding loads is because of their very low coefficient of friction.  

In this case, I would leave experimenting with materials until the size, shape, fit, clearances, etc, have been proven by the process that Ken is currently pursuing.

Les

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Ken Garratt
Sent: 14 February 2011 20:42
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] RE: Gear selector

 

Having used JB Weld on a number of repair jobs, I do swear by it!

 

But  no, my money is still on a Corian  bush, complimented with a JB Weld fastener.

Ken

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: BenT Syncro <syncro@gmail.com>

Sent: Monday, 14 February 2011 8:29 PM

To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] RE: Gear selector

 

 

On Feb 14, 2011, at 1:15 AM, "Ken Garratt " <unclekenz@hotmail.com> wrote:

 > Heh my brain just decided to work at last ... all too briefly! Why not use JB Weld as the adhesive?

 > Cheers.

 > Ken

 

 Why not shape JB Weld as bushes?

 

 BenT

 

 >

 

 

 

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87
Les,

Then we should be using Teflon ?!

Theo
88

Theo,

Yes, Teflon would be the best but only if you can screw it on.   Because ‘nothing sticks to Teflon’ it is a bit hard to find an adhesive that will work!

This application, because of the low loads involved, does not require anything better than nylon, which is quite good anyway.

Les

 

 

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Theo Weiss
Sent: 14 February 2011 21:29
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] RE: Gear selector

 

 Les,

Then we should be using Teflon ?!

Theo

89
Les,

Do you think that in this application it may be for the anti "rattle" properties?

Phill



> Les Harris <leslieharris@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>
> The reason that nylon and nylon derivatives are used in applications
> involving sliding loads is because of their very low coefficient of
> friction.
>
> In this case, I would leave experimenting with materials until the size,
> shape, fit, clearances, etc, have been proven by the process that Ken is
> currently pursuing.
>
> Les
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ken Garratt
> Sent: 14 February 2011 20:42
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] RE: Gear selector
>
>
>
> Having used JB Weld on a number of repair jobs, I do swear by it!
>
>
>
> But no, my money is still on a Corian bush, complimented with a JB
> Weld
> fastener.
>
> Ken
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: BenT Syncro <syncro@gmail.com>
>
> Sent: Monday, 14 February 2011 8:29 PM
>
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
>
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] RE: Gear selector
>
>
>
>
>
> On Feb 14, 2011, at 1:15 AM, "Ken Garratt " <unclekenz@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Heh my brain just decided to work at last ... all too briefly! Why
> not
> use JB Weld as the adhesive?
>
> > Cheers.
>
> > Ken
>
>
>
> Why not shape JB Weld as bushes?
>
>
>
> BenT
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90

How do they get Teflon to stick to the frypan?

Tom

 

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Les Harris
Sent: Monday, 14 February 2011 9:38 PM
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] RE: Gear selector

 

 

Theo,

Yes, Teflon would be the best but only if you can screw it on.   Because ‘nothing sticks to Teflon’ it is a bit hard to find an adhesive that will work!

This application, because of the low loads involved, does not require anything better than nylon, which is quite good anyway.

Les

 

 

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Theo Weiss
Sent: 14 February 2011 21:29
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] RE: Gear selector

 

 Les,

Then we should be using Teflon ?!

Theo

91

Chemical etching.   There are any instances of Teflon being bonded on to metal but the extreme fuss involved isn’t justified in this case.

 

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Thomas Hanson
Sent: 15 February 2011 09:40
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] RE: Gear selector

 

 

How do they get Teflon to stick to the frypan?

Tom

 

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Les Harris
Sent: Monday, 14 February 2011 9:38 PM
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] RE: Gear selector

 

 

Theo,

Yes, Teflon would be the best but only if you can screw it on.   Because ‘nothing sticks to Teflon’ it is a bit hard to find an adhesive that will work!

This application, because of the low loads involved, does not require anything better than nylon, which is quite good anyway.

Les

 

 

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto : Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Theo Weiss
Sent: 14 February 2011 21:29
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] RE: Gear selector

 

 Les,

Then we should be using Teflon ?!

Theo

92

And that should have read “many” instances, not “any” instances

 

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Les Harris
Sent: 15 February 2011 09:45
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] RE: Gear selector

 

 

Chemical etching.   There are any instances of Teflon being bonded on to metal but the extreme fuss involved isn’t justified in this case.

 

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Thomas Hanson
Sent: 15 February 2011 09:40
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] RE: Gear selector

 

 

How do they get Teflon to stick to the frypan?

Tom

 

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Les Harris
Sent: Monday, 14 February 2011 9:38 PM
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] RE: Gear selector

 

 

Theo,

Yes, Teflon would be the best but only if you can screw it on.   Because ‘nothing sticks to Teflon’ it is a bit hard to find an adhesive that will work!

This application, because of the low loads involved, does not require anything better than nylon, which is quite good anyway.

Les

 

 

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto : Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Theo Weiss
Sent: 14 February 2011 21:29
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] RE: Gear selector

 

 Les,

Then we should be using Teflon ?!

Theo

93

Phill,

I would have to get under and look at it, which I haven’t done.   In fact, the last time I looked at the front end of a shift mechanism was on my 58 Beetle.   That seems like several lifetimes ago now!

Les

 

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of plander@optusnet.com.au
Sent: 15 February 2011 04:54
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] RE: Gear selector

Les,

Do you think that in this application it may be for the anti "rattle" properties?

Phill


94
I'm unaware of any instances of rattling in the gear selector housing, even with a wobbly gearshift and both bushes totally missing in which case it is then metal against metal.
The gearshift comes under the influence of the springs tension/compression in the gear change mechanism anyway, so that would most likely help against rattling.
Ken
 
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: leslieharris@optusnet.com.au
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 09:59:55 +1100
Subject: RE: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] RE: Gear selector

 

Phill,

I would have to get under and look at it, which I haven’t done.   In fact, the last time I looked at the front end of a shift mechanism was on my 58 Beetle.   That seems like several lifetimes ago now!

Les

 

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of plander@optusnet.com.au
Sent: 15 February 2011 04:54
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] RE: Gear selector

Les,

Do you think that in this application it may be for the anti "rattle" properties?

Phill




95
To the R & D Team,

I did some glue testing over-night. I used a piece of engineering
plastic (what grade,don't know, feels the same as the kitchen board)
which I glued with JB Weld to black steel and did the same with Super
Glue. Unfortunately, the bond was very weak,Super Glue was slightly better.

Cheers.

Theo
96
Theo,
Yes my instincts suggest to me JB Weld would not work with nylon or something similar. But as I said to Hartmut previously, I would try it though on Corian, plus I'd also try superglue.

To the R&D team, regrettably my present circumstances are such that I am unable to start right now on this bush R&D. It will simply be deferred to the first opportunity. Sorry about that. Meanwhile, it'd be helpful to us all if others report in on their R&D as well.
Cheers.
Ken




-----Original Message-----
From: Theo Weiss <teows@melbpc.org.au>
Sent: Wednesday, 16 February 2011 7:25 PM
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] RE: Gear selector


To the R & D Team,

I did some glue testing over-night. I used a piece of engineering
plastic (what grade,don't know, feels the same as the kitchen board)
which I glued with JB Weld to black steel and did the same with Super
Glue. Unfortunately, the bond was very weak,Super Glue was slightly better.

Cheers.

Theo
97
Hi All
Ertalon is a strong plastic infused with lubricant.
probably hard to glue to though.
it is aavilable from Dotmar.
The best way to improve adhesion is to increase surface area.
This can be achieved by roughing the bond surfaces with sand paper.
Cheers
Paul Dumais
98
To R&D team

Talking to someone at Just Kampers who has been down this path.He used
Teflon bushes glued with Sikatrex which gives the bond some movement and
had great success. Worth a try.
I have been shaping my black plastic bushes in situ glued on with Araldite
and I think that I'll have to chisel them of when the time comes.They are
rock solid.
I am having clutch issues. New linkages and cylinders and correct movement
at slave cylinder but very little clutch disengagement, so next week to your
mechanic Scott (Skot) for a professional opinion.
Incidentally a correction.....the clutch does self adjust itself ........the
adjustment that I had to take up was due to wear at the pivot pin where the
clutch pedal connects to the push rod into the master cylinder via a pin.
The hole in the pedal elongates with wear and causes a slack pedal. By
rights the pedal should be removed ,the hole welded up and redrilled. .A sod
of a job.
Oddly enough Scotts mechanic was doing this exact procedure on a yellow Twin
cab whilst I was there and ran me through the procedure..My remedy will do
till I get the clutch sorted

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Garratt " <unclekenz@hotmail.com>
To: <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 8:22 PM
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] RE: Gear selector


> Theo,
> Yes my instincts suggest to me JB Weld would not work with nylon or
> something similar. But as I said to Hartmut previously, I would try it
> though on Corian, plus I'd also try superglue.
>
> To the R&D team, regrettably my present circumstances are such that I am
> unable to start right now on this bush R&D. It will simply be deferred to
> the first opportunity. Sorry about that. Meanwhile, it'd be helpful to us
> all if others report in on their R&D as well.
> Cheers.
> Ken
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Theo Weiss <teows@melbpc.org.au>
> Sent: Wednesday, 16 February 2011 7:25 PM
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] RE: Gear selector
>
>
> To the R & D Team,
>
> I did some glue testing over-night. I used a piece of engineering
> plastic (what grade,don't know, feels the same as the kitchen board)
> which I glued with JB Weld to black steel and did the same with Super
> Glue. Unfortunately, the bond was very weak,Super Glue was slightly
> better.
>
> Cheers.
>
> Theo
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
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>
>
>
99
He's a great mechanic Graham.
 
He wont disappoint.
 
He's not one of those - do the easy jobs only mechanics - he will do the lot where possible and is good at diagnosing problems.
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 10:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] RE: Gear selector

 

To R&D team

Talking to someone at Just Kampers who has been down this path.He used
Teflon bushes glued with Sikatrex which gives the bond some movement and
had great success. Worth a try.
I have been shaping my black plastic bushes in situ glued on with Araldite
and I think that I'll have to chisel them of when the time comes.They are
rock solid.
I am having clutch issues. New linkages and cylinders and correct movement
at slave cylinder but very little clutch disengagement, so next week to your
mechanic Scott (Skot) for a professional opinion.
Incidentally a correction.....the clutch does self adjust itself ........the
adjustment that I had to take up was due to wear at the pivot pin where the
clutch pedal connects to the push rod into the master cylinder via a pin.
The hole in the pedal elongates with wear and causes a slack pedal. By
rights the pedal should be removed ,the hole welded up and redrilled. .A sod
of a job.
Oddly enough Scotts mechanic was doing this exact procedure on a yellow Twin
cab whilst I was there and ran me through the procedure..My remedy will do
till I get the clutch sorted

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Garratt " <unclekenz@hotmail.com>
To: <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 8:22 PM
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] RE: Gear selector

> Theo,
> Yes my instincts suggest to me JB Weld would not work with nylon or
> something similar. But as I said to Hartmut previously, I would try it
> though on Corian, plus I'd also try superglue.
>
> To the R&D team, regrettably my present circumstances are such that I am
> unable to start right now on this bush R&D. It will simply be deferred to
> the first opportunity. Sorry about that. Meanwhile, it'd be helpful to us
> all if others report in on their R&D as well.
> Cheers.
> Ken
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Theo Weiss <teows@melbpc.org.au>
> Sent: Wednesday, 16 February 2011 7:25 PM
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] RE: Gear selector
>
>
> To the R & D Team,
>
> I did some glue testing over-night. I used a piece of engineering
> plastic (what grade,don't know, feels the same as the kitchen board)
> which I glued with JB Weld to black steel and did the same with Super
> Glue. Unfortunately, the bond was very weak,Super Glue was slightly
> better.
>
> Cheers.
>
> Theo
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

100
Hi All in regards to the clutch adjustment and it not fully operating the other problem is that ALL the clutch forks are worn some excessively hence no matter what you do, until you replace this you are just wasting your time.......because this also determines how your clutch pedal feels......in relation to the free play at the pedal end all that is required is to remove the two bolts which hold the master cylinderin  place, then use a small die grinder to elongate the hole upwards a little which then allows the master cylinder to move upward giving you adjustment and hence removing the free play........ no need to pull the dash out
From: GRAHAM ADAMS <g.adams2@bigpond.com>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, 16 February, 2011 10:14:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] RE: Gear selector

 

To R&D team

Talking to someone at Just Kampers who has been down this path.He used
Teflon bushes glued with Sikatrex which gives the bond some movement and
had great success. Worth a try.
I have been shaping my black plastic bushes in situ glued on with Araldite
and I think that I'll have to chisel them of when the time comes.They are
rock solid.
I am having clutch issues. New linkages and cylinders and correct movement
at slave cylinder but very little clutch disengagement, so next week to your
mechanic Scott (Skot) for a professional opinion.
Incidentally a correction.....the clutch does self adjust itself ........the
adjustment that I had to take up was due to wear at the pivot pin where the
clutch pedal connects to the push rod into the master cylinder via a pin.
The hole in the pedal elongates with wear and causes a slack pedal. By
rights the pedal should be removed ,the hole welded up and redrilled. .A sod
of a job.
Oddly enough Scotts mechanic was doing this exact procedure on a yellow Twin
cab whilst I was there and ran me through the procedure..My remedy will do
till I get the clutch sorted

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Garratt " <unclekenz@hotmail.com>
To: <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 8:22 PM
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] RE: Gear selector

> Theo,
> Yes my instincts suggest to me JB Weld would not work with nylon or
> something similar. But as I said to Hartmut previously, I would try it
> though on Corian, plus I'd also try superglue.
>
> To the R&D team, regrettably my present circumstances are such that I am
> unable to start right now on this bush R&D. It will simply be deferred to
> the first opportunity. Sorry about that. Meanwhile, it'd be helpful to us
> all if others report in on their R&D as well.
> Cheers.
> Ken
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Theo Weiss <teows@melbpc.org.au>
> Sent: Wednesday, 16 February 2011 7:25 PM
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] RE: Gear selector
>
>
> To the R & D Team,
>
> I did some glue testing over-night. I used a piece of engineering
> plastic (what grade,don't know, feels the same as the kitchen board)
> which I glued with JB Weld to black steel and did the same with Super
> Glue. Unfortunately, the bond was very weak,Super Glue was slightly
> better.
>
> Cheers.
>
> Theo
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>