Pop top conversions/ SYD (who still does)

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Are you a engineer?

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On 07/03/2013, at 8:05 AM, plander@optusnet.com.au wrote:

Only if you can find a dodgy one.



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Engineers can certify anything.

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On 07/03/2013, at 6:26 AM, plander@optusnet.com.au wrote:

Would a Westfalia pop-top be legal here?

They were not designed for our vans.



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I had a look on their website but just saw the replacement canvas, not the roof. Sent them an email asking about the pop tops but no reply yet.

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Francesca" wrote:
>
> I thought Just Kampers had the Westfalia lookalike pop-tops available in Australia for a few grand or so.
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Hamish Dobson wrote:
> >
> > I purchased a donar car for 2k
> > Then I converted it my self and I painted it.
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On 06/03/2013, at 7:42 PM, "paulhtravel" wrote:
> >
> > > I agree $6k is too much - reproduction westy pop tops are available fitted in the UK for the equivalent of about $4.5k
> > >
> > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, hamish dobson wrote:
> > >>
> > >> i could never really believe 6K was fair any way for a pop top instal
> > >> you can buy who 2wd cars that look tidy for under 10K
> > >> you can buy a wreck for under 1K
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ________________________________
> > >> From: paulhtravel
> > >> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, 6 March 2013 1:29 PM
> > >> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Pop top conversions/ SYD (who still does)
> > >>
> > >> Unfortunately Nose Cone don't have the mould anymore.
> > >>
> > >> They told me it was destroyed in an accident with a fork lift.
> > >>
> > >> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Hamish Dobson wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks Scott ur onto it - info passed on!
> > >>> Thank you.
> > >>>
> > >>> Sent from my iPhone
> > >>>
> > >>> On 05/03/2013, at 9:06 PM, Mr Scott Pitcher wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Hamish,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I had mine done by Discoverer Campers in Sydney about 4 years ago just before they went bankrupt and Chris took over the business and was going to fix the stuff up they made when he went belly up 8 months later.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Anyway, I tracked down the roof manufacturer who at the time was "Nose Cone" in Sydney and had them re-make the elevating roof section.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> They did this, stuffed it up again, took it back at their cost, fixed it and flow coated it again and finally I had my very trusted Macron Campers @ Ourimbah install it and a new sleeve that they organised.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Turned out great in the end but a lot of pain in the mean time.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Anyway Nose Cone are still in business as far as I know and they are @:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> 12 Donald St
> > >>>> Old Guildford NSW 2161
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Phone: (02) 9721 6333
> > >>>> Outside Sydney Metro: 1800 643322
> > >>>>
> > >>>> or sales@
> > >>>>
> > >>>> They were the only ones I know of that still have the mould for the Discoverer or "Camperise" style roof system.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Give them a try. Plus Macron Campers can fit it for them - I definitely trust their work.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Cheers,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Skot
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On 5/03/2013 1:48 PM, Hamish Dobson wrote:
> > >>>>> Hello.
> > >>>>> I'm trying to help a friend-they want to know who can still do pop top conversions for T3?
> > >>>>> About 4-5 years ago I did research and I found a group in Sydney who still had a T3 mould and were willing to do a drive in drive out roof only conversion for aprx 6K. I think they now are doing later Vw pop top conversions.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Does anyone know who that might be???
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Rgds
> > >>>>> Hamish
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ------------------------------------
> > >>
> > >> Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

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Nope, but Les is.

Did you see the balcony collapse on the news. That was certified by an engineer. Was it legal?

Do you understand what I am getting at?



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Only if you can find a dodgy one.



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Engineers can certify anything.

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On 07/03/2013, at 6:26 AM, plander@optusnetcom.au wrote:

Would a Westfalia pop-top be legal here?

They were not designed for our vans.



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I had a look on their website but just saw the replacement canvas, not the roof. Sent them an email asking about the pop tops but no reply yet.

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Francesca" wrote:
>
> I thought Just Kampers had the Westfalia lookalike pop-tops available in Australia for a few grand or so.
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Hamish Dobson wrote:
> >
> > I purchased a donar car for 2k
> > Then I converted it my self and I painted it.
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On 06/03/2013, at 7:42 PM, "paulhtravel" wrote:
> >
> > > I agree $6k is too much - reproduction westy pop tops are available fitted in the UK for the equivalent of about $4.5k
> > >
> > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, hamish dobson wrote:
> > >>
> > >> i could never really believe 6K was fair any way for a pop top instal
> > >> you can buy who 2wd cars that look tidy for under 10K
> > >> you can buy a wreck for under 1K
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ________________________________
> > >> From: paulhtravel
> > >> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, 6 March 2013 1:29 PM
> > >> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Pop top conversions/ SYD (who still does)
> > >>
> > >> Unfortunately Nose Cone don't have the mould anymore.
> > >>
> > >> They told me it was destroyed in an accident with a fork lift.
> > >>
> > >> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Hamish Dobson wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks Scott ur onto it - info passed on!
> > >>> Thank you.
> > >>>
> > >>> Sent from my iPhone
> > >>>
> > >>> On 05/03/2013, at 9:06 PM, Mr Scott Pitcher wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Hamish,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I had mine done by Discoverer Campers in Sydney about 4 years ago just before they went bankrupt and Chris took over the business and was going to fix the stuff up they made when he went belly up 8 months later.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Anyway, I tracked down the roof manufacturer who at the time was "Nose Cone" in Sydney and had them re-make the elevating roof section.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> They did this, stuffed it up again, took it back at their cost, fixed it and flow coated it again and finally I had my very trusted Macron Campers @ Ourimbah install it and a new sleeve that they organised.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Turned out great in the end but a lot of pain in the mean time.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Anyway Nose Cone are still in business as far as I know and they are @:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> 12 Donald St
> > >>>> Old Guildford NSW 2161
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Phone: (02) 9721 6333
> > >>>> Outside Sydney Metro: 1800 643322
> > >>>>
> > >>>> or sales@
> > >>>>
> > >>>> They were the only ones I know of that still have the mould for the Discoverer or "Camperise" style roof system.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Give them a try. Plus Macron Campers can fit it for them - I definitely trust their work.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Cheers,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Skot
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On 5/03/2013 1:48 PM, Hamish Dobson wrote:
> > >>>>> Hello.
> > >>>>> I'm trying to help a friend-they want to know who can still do pop top conversions for T3?
> > >>>>> About 4-5 years ago I did research and I found a group in Sydney who still had a T3 mould and were willing to do a drive in drive out roof only conversion for aprx 6K. I think they now are doing later Vw pop top conversions.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Does anyone know who that might be???
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Rgds
> > >>>>> Hamish
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ------------------------------------
> > >>
> > >> Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

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Yes I am a mechanical engineer.
QUT.

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On 07/03/2013, at 9:40 AM, plander@optusnet.com.au wrote:

Nope, but Les is.

Did you see the balcony collapse on the news. That was certified by an engineer. Was it legal?

Do you understand what I am getting at?



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Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Pop top conversions/ SYD (who still does)


 

Are you a engineer?

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On 07/03/2013, at 8:05 AM, plander@optusnet.com.au wrote:

Only if you can find a dodgy one.



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Engineers can certify anything.

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On 07/03/2013, at 6:26 AM, plander@optusnetcom.au wrote:

Would a Westfalia pop-top be legal here?

They were not designed for our vans.



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[Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Pop top conversions/ SYD (who still does)


 

I had a look on their website but just saw the replacement canvas, not the roof. Sent them an email asking about the pop tops but no reply yet.

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Francesca" wrote:
>
> I thought Just Kampers had the Westfalia lookalike pop-tops available in Australia for a few grand or so.
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Hamish Dobson wrote:
> >
> > I purchased a donar car for 2k
> > Then I converted it my self and I painted it.
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On 06/03/2013, at 7:42 PM, "paulhtravel" wrote:
> >
> > > I agree $6k is too much - reproduction westy pop tops are available fitted in the UK for the equivalent of about $4.5k
> > >
> > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, hamish dobson wrote:
> > >>
> > >> i could never really believe 6K was fair any way for a pop top instal
> > >> you can buy who 2wd cars that look tidy for under 10K
> > >> you can buy a wreck for under 1K
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ________________________________
> > >> From: paulhtravel
> > >> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, 6 March 2013 1:29 PM
> > >> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Pop top conversions/ SYD (who still does)
> > >>
> > >> Unfortunately Nose Cone don't have the mould anymore.
> > >>
> > >> They told me it was destroyed in an accident with a fork lift.
> > >>
> > >> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Hamish Dobson wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks Scott ur onto it - info passed on!
> > >>> Thank you.
> > >>>
> > >>> Sent from my iPhone
> > >>>
> > >>> On 05/03/2013, at 9:06 PM, Mr Scott Pitcher wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Hamish,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I had mine done by Discoverer Campers in Sydney about 4 years ago just before they went bankrupt and Chris took over the business and was going to fix the stuff up they made when he went belly up 8 months later.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Anyway, I tracked down the roof manufacturer who at the time was "Nose Cone" in Sydney and had them re-make the elevating roof section.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> They did this, stuffed it up again, took it back at their cost, fixed it and flow coated it again and finally I had my very trusted Macron Campers @ Ourimbah install it and a new sleeve that they organised.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Turned out great in the end but a lot of pain in the mean time.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Anyway Nose Cone are still in business as far as I know and they are @:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> 12 Donald St
> > >>>> Old Guildford NSW 2161
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Phone: (02) 9721 6333
> > >>>> Outside Sydney Metro: 1800 643322
> > >>>>
> > >>>> or sales@
> > >>>>
> > >>>> They were the only ones I know of that still have the mould for the Discoverer or "Camperise" style roof system.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Give them a try. Plus Macron Campers can fit it for them - I definitely trust their work.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Cheers,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Skot
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On 5/03/2013 1:48 PM, Hamish Dobson wrote:
> > >>>>> Hello.
> > >>>>> I'm trying to help a friend-they want to know who can still do pop top conversions for T3?
> > >>>>> About 4-5 years ago I did research and I found a group in Sydney who still had a T3 mould and were willing to do a drive in drive out roof only conversion for aprx 6K. I think they now are doing later Vw pop top conversions.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Does anyone know who that might be???
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Rgds
> > >>>>> Hamish
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ------------------------------------
> > >>
> > >> Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

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I fail to understand what you are getting at??????????????



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Yes I am a mechanical engineer.
QUT.

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On 07/03/2013, at 9:40 AM, plander@optusnet.com.au wrote:

Nope, but Les is.

Did you see the balcony collapse on the news. That was certified by an engineer. Was it legal?

Do you understand what I am getting at?



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Subject:
Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Pop top conversions/ SYD (who still does)


Are you a engineer?

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On 07/03/2013, at 8:05 AM, plander@optusnet.com.au wrote:

Only if you can find a dodgy one.



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Subject:
Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Pop top conversions/ SYD (who still does)


Engineers can certify anything.

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On 07/03/2013, at 6:26 AM, plander@optusnetcom.au wrote:

Would a Westfalia pop-top be legal here?

They were not designed for our vans.



----- Original Message -----

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Sent:
Wed, 06 Mar 2013 10:47:33 -0000
Subject:
[Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Pop top conversions/ SYD (who still does)


I had a look on their website but just saw the replacement canvas, not the roof. Sent them an email asking about the pop tops but no reply yet.

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Francesca" wrote:
>
> I thought Just Kampers had the Westfalia lookalike pop-tops available in Australia for a few grand or so.
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Hamish Dobson wrote:
> >
> > I purchased a donar car for 2k
> > Then I converted it my self and I painted it.
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On 06/03/2013, at 7:42 PM, "paulhtravel" wrote:
> >
> > > I agree $6k is too much - reproduction westy pop tops are available fitted in the UK for the equivalent of about $4.5k
> > >
> > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, hamish dobson wrote:
> > >>
> > >> i could never really believe 6K was fair any way for a pop top instal
> > >> you can buy who 2wd cars that look tidy for under 10K
> > >> you can buy a wreck for under 1K
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ________________________________
> > >> From: paulhtravel
> > >> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, 6 March 2013 1:29 PM
> > >> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Pop top conversions/ SYD (who still does)
> > >>
> > >> Unfortunately Nose Cone don't have the mould anymore.
> > >>
> > >> They told me it was destroyed in an accident with a fork lift.
> > >>
> > >> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Hamish Dobson wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks Scott ur onto it - info passed on!
> > >>> Thank you.
> > >>>
> > >>> Sent from my iPhone
> > >>>
> > >>> On 05/03/2013, at 9:06 PM, Mr Scott Pitcher wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Hamish,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I had mine done by Discoverer Campers in Sydney about 4 years ago just before they went bankrupt and Chris took over the business and was going to fix the stuff up they made when he went belly up 8 months later.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Anyway, I tracked down the roof manufacturer who at the time was "Nose Cone" in Sydney and had them re-make the elevating roof section.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> They did this, stuffed it up again, took it back at their cost, fixed it and flow coated it again and finally I had my very trusted Macron Campers @ Ourimbah install it and a new sleeve that they organised.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Turned out great in the end but a lot of pain in the mean time.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Anyway Nose Cone are still in business as far as I know and they are @:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> 12 Donald St
> > >>>> Old Guildford NSW 2161
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Phone: (02) 9721 6333
> > >>>> Outside Sydney Metro: 1800 643322
> > >>>>
> > >>>> or sales@
> > >>>>
> > >>>> They were the only ones I know of that still have the mould for the Discoverer or "Camperise" style roof system.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Give them a try. Plus Macron Campers can fit it for them - I definitely trust their work.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Cheers,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Skot
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On 5/03/2013 1:48 PM, Hamish Dobson wrote:
> > >>>>> Hello.
> > >>>>> I'm trying to help a friend-they want to know who can still do pop top conversions for T3?
> > >>>>> About 4-5 years ago I did research and I found a group in Sydney who still had a T3 mould and were willing to do a drive in drive out roof only conversion for aprx 6K. I think they now are doing later Vw pop top conversions.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Does anyone know who that might be???
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Rgds
> > >>>>> Hamish
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ------------------------------------
> > >>
> > >> Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

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The westfalia pop top can be engineered and registered just as any other pop top in Australia.


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On 07/03/2013, at 9:53 AM, plander@optusnet.com.au wrote:

I fail to understand what you are getting at??????????????



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Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Pop top conversions/ SYD (who still does)


 

Yes I am a mechanical engineer.
QUT.

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On 07/03/2013, at 9:40 AM, plander@optusnet.com.au wrote:

Nope, but Les is.

Did you see the balcony collapse on the news. That was certified by an engineer. Was it legal?

Do you understand what I am getting at?



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Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Pop top conversions/ SYD (who still does)


 

Are you a engineer?

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On 07/03/2013, at 8:05 AM, plander@optusnet.com.au wrote:

Only if you can find a dodgy one.



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Engineers can certify anything.

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On 07/03/2013, at 6:26 AM, plander@optusnetcom.au wrote:

Would a Westfalia pop-top be legal here?

They were not designed for our vans.



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Subject:
[Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Pop top conversions/ SYD (who still does)


 

I had a look on their website but just saw the replacement canvas, not the roof. Sent them an email asking about the pop tops but no reply yet.

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Francesca" wrote:
>
> I thought Just Kampers had the Westfalia lookalike pop-tops available in Australia for a few grand or so.
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Hamish Dobson wrote:
> >
> > I purchased a donar car for 2k
> > Then I converted it my self and I painted it.
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On 06/03/2013, at 7:42 PM, "paulhtravel" wrote:
> >
> > > I agree $6k is too much - reproduction westy pop tops are available fitted in the UK for the equivalent of about $4.5k
> > >
> > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, hamish dobson wrote:
> > >>
> > >> i could never really believe 6K was fair any way for a pop top instal
> > >> you can buy who 2wd cars that look tidy for under 10K
> > >> you can buy a wreck for under 1K
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ________________________________
> > >> From: paulhtravel
> > >> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, 6 March 2013 1:29 PM
> > >> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Pop top conversions/ SYD (who still does)
> > >>
> > >> Unfortunately Nose Cone don't have the mould anymore.
> > >>
> > >> They told me it was destroyed in an accident with a fork lift.
> > >>
> > >> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Hamish Dobson wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks Scott ur onto it - info passed on!
> > >>> Thank you.
> > >>>
> > >>> Sent from my iPhone
> > >>>
> > >>> On 05/03/2013, at 9:06 PM, Mr Scott Pitcher wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Hamish,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I had mine done by Discoverer Campers in Sydney about 4 years ago just before they went bankrupt and Chris took over the business and was going to fix the stuff up they made when he went belly up 8 months later.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Anyway, I tracked down the roof manufacturer who at the time was "Nose Cone" in Sydney and had them re-make the elevating roof section.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> They did this, stuffed it up again, took it back at their cost, fixed it and flow coated it again and finally I had my very trusted Macron Campers @ Ourimbah install it and a new sleeve that they organised.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Turned out great in the end but a lot of pain in the mean time.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Anyway Nose Cone are still in business as far as I know and they are @:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> 12 Donald St
> > >>>> Old Guildford NSW 2161
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Phone: (02) 9721 6333
> > >>>> Outside Sydney Metro: 1800 643322
> > >>>>
> > >>>> or sales@
> > >>>>
> > >>>> They were the only ones I know of that still have the mould for the Discoverer or "Camperise" style roof system.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Give them a try. Plus Macron Campers can fit it for them - I definitely trust their work.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Cheers,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Skot
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On 5/03/2013 1:48 PM, Hamish Dobson wrote:
> > >>>>> Hello.
> > >>>>> I'm trying to help a friend-they want to know who can still do pop top conversions for T3?
> > >>>>> About 4-5 years ago I did research and I found a group in Sydney who still had a T3 mould and were willing to do a drive in drive out roof only conversion for aprx 6K. I think they now are doing later Vw pop top conversions.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Does anyone know who that might be???
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Rgds
> > >>>>> Hamish
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ------------------------------------
> > >>
> > >> Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

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NSW must be different then.



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The westfalia pop top can be engineered and registered just as any other pop top in Australia.


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I fail to understand what you are getting at??????????????



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Yes I am a mechanical engineer.
QUT.

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Nope, but Les is.

Did you see the balcony collapse on the news. That was certified by an engineer. Was it legal?

Do you understand what I am getting at?



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Are you a engineer?

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Only if you can find a dodgy one.



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Engineers can certify anything.

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Would a Westfalia pop-top be legal here?

They were not designed for our vans.



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I had a look on their website but just saw the replacement canvas, not the roof. Sent them an email asking about the pop tops but no reply yet.

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Francesca" wrote:
>
> I thought Just Kampers had the Westfalia lookalike pop-tops available in Australia for a few grand or so.
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Hamish Dobson wrote:
> >
> > I purchased a donar car for 2k
> > Then I converted it my self and I painted it.
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On 06/03/2013, at 7:42 PM, "paulhtravel" wrote:
> >
> > > I agree $6k is too much - reproduction westy pop tops are available fitted in the UK for the equivalent of about $4.5k
> > >
> > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, hamish dobson wrote:
> > >>
> > >> i could never really believe 6K was fair any way for a pop top instal
> > >> you can buy who 2wd cars that look tidy for under 10K
> > >> you can buy a wreck for under 1K
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ________________________________
> > >> From: paulhtravel
> > >> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, 6 March 2013 1:29 PM
> > >> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Pop top conversions/ SYD (who still does)
> > >>
> > >> Unfortunately Nose Cone don't have the mould anymore.
> > >>
> > >> They told me it was destroyed in an accident with a fork lift.
> > >>
> > >> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Hamish Dobson wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks Scott ur onto it - info passed on!
> > >>> Thank you.
> > >>>
> > >>> Sent from my iPhone
> > >>>
> > >>> On 05/03/2013, at 9:06 PM, Mr Scott Pitcher wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Hamish,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I had mine done by Discoverer Campers in Sydney about 4 years ago just before they went bankrupt and Chris took over the business and was going to fix the stuff up they made when he went belly up 8 months later.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Anyway, I tracked down the roof manufacturer who at the time was "Nose Cone" in Sydney and had them re-make the elevating roof section.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> They did this, stuffed it up again, took it back at their cost, fixed it and flow coated it again and finally I had my very trusted Macron Campers @ Ourimbah install it and a new sleeve that they organised.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Turned out great in the end but a lot of pain in the mean time.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Anyway Nose Cone are still in business as far as I know and they are @:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> 12 Donald St
> > >>>> Old Guildford NSW 2161
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Phone: (02) 9721 6333
> > >>>> Outside Sydney Metro: 1800 643322
> > >>>>
> > >>>> or sales@
> > >>>>
> > >>>> They were the only ones I know of that still have the mould for the Discoverer or "Camperise" style roof system.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Give them a try. Plus Macron Campers can fit it for them - I definitely trust their work.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Cheers,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Skot
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On 5/03/2013 1:48 PM, Hamish Dobson wrote:
> > >>>>> Hello.
> > >>>>> I'm trying to help a friend-they want to know who can still do pop top conversions for T3?
> > >>>>> About 4-5 years ago I did research and I found a group in Sydney who still had a T3 mould and were willing to do a drive in drive out roof only conversion for aprx 6K. I think they now are doing later Vw pop top conversions.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Does anyone know who that might be???
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Rgds
> > >>>>> Hamish
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ------------------------------------
> > >>
> > >> Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

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The westfalia pop top can be engineered and registered just as any other pop top in Australia.


I didn't say that. I said legal as in complying specifications.

Trakka pop tops are no longer legal without reinforcing.

Some engineers pass them and others don't.

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Engineering inspection, assessment and approval is required for all structural modifications to a vehicle in order to obtain registration. 

Separately, inspection and approval is required to ensure that the vehicle complies with ADRs.  

No insurance company will touch a vehicle that is no so approved.  In the event that a vehicle is insured but has modifications not known to the insurance company, they have no legal obligation to pay out in the event of a crash – any crash, related or not.

Unfortunately, Australia labours under an unbelievably costly dinosaur called “States”.  Every State operates on the Divine Right principle, which was passably understandable 150 years ago but legally entitles each state to enact its own legislation and that’s exactly what happens in the area of vehicle modifications.  In general, it conflicts with every other State but – hey! – that’s our Divine Right!!

The end result is that each state has its own version of engineering requirements.  Something legally acceptable in Victoria probably won’t be in at least two other states and vice versa.  Mercifully, ADRs are Federal and the states have no say in them but, be assured, if they did we would have six completely different and conflicting sets of regulations!!

The cost of this nonsense is incalculable but – hey! – that’s out Divine Right!!
Les

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Nope, but Les is.

Did you see the balcony collapse on the news. That was certified by an engineer. Was it legal?

Do you understand what I am getting at?

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re
They were not designed for our vans. "

There are many Westfahlia poptop Syncro T3 vans in the world ..
factory-produced.



On 3/6/2013 1:11 PM, Hamish Dobson wrote:
Engineers can certify anything.

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Would a Westfalia pop-top be legal here?

They were not designed for our vans.



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I couldn't have said it any better myself Les.

I can buy a brand new Chery in NSW. Can I buy one in Victoria? No, they are not allowed to be registered there.

I can put a driving light on my car in NSW. I can't do that in Queensland as I have to buy 2.

I have heard of a lot of owners having to put CRAB bars in their T3 because of dodgy engineers not knowing what they are doing. The same with Golfs.



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Engineering inspection, assessment and approval is required for all structural modifications to a vehicle in order to obtain registration.

Separately, inspection and approval is required to ensure that the vehicle complies with ADRs.

No insurance company will touch a vehicle that is no so approved. In the event that a vehicle is insured but has modifications not known to the insurance company, they have no legal obligation to pay out in the event of a crash – any crash, related or not.

Unfortunately, Australia labours under an unbelievably costly dinosaur called “States”. Every State operates on the Divine Right principle, which was passably understandable 150 years ago but legally entitles each state to enact its own legislation and that’s exactly what happens in the area of vehicle modifications. In general, it conflicts with every other State but – hey! – that’s our Divine Right!!

The end result is that each state has its own version of engineering requirements. Something legally acceptable in Victoria probably won’t be in at least two other states and vice versa. Mercifully, ADRs are Federal and the states have no say in them but, be assured, if they did we would have six completely different and conflicting sets of regulations!!

The cost of this nonsense is incalculable but – hey! – that’s out Divine Right!!
Les

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Nope, but Les is.

Did you see the balcony collapse on the news. That was certified by an engineer. Was it legal?

Do you understand what I am getting at?

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Yes, and our vans are not those.



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re
They were not designed for our vans. "

There are many Westfahlia poptop Syncro T3 vans in the world ..
factory-produced.



On 3/6/2013 1:11 PM, Hamish Dobson wrote:
Engineers can certify anything.

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Would a Westfalia pop-top be legal here?

They were not designed for our vans.



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hi, have been reading this very closely!

how do the trakka roof reinforcements look like? do you have to refit them?

if i have a trakka roof and refit it to another van, in the same way like it was fitted to the previous one and take it to the engineer whit the former engineers certificate could there be the chance tat its not approved? assuming he knows his stuff!

i wasn't aware of a difference in the T3 shape or form not even structural, to those driving around anywhere else in the world. (not SA, thats different)

not to stur up anything just out of curiosity,



i am awaiting my sycro Multivan to be delivered in May including its Westi roof and so on. hope i can get it registered..... listening to you guys i have to get 20k $ instead and by something else locally

 

Jens


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how do the trakka roof reinforcements look like? do you have to refit them?

I don't think that there is any.


if i have a trakka roof and refit it to another van, in the same way like it was fitted to the previous one and take it to the engineer whit the former engineers certificate could there be the chance tat its not approved?

Just take it to another one.


assuming he knows his stuff!

There's the problem.


i wasn't aware of a difference in the T3 shape or form not even structural, to those driving around anywhere else in the world. (not SA, thats different)

The Westfalia uses a different body to a normal van and has built in reinforcing. I don't know about a T3, but on the T2 the floor also had reinforcing.


i am awaiting my sycro Multivan to be delivered in May including its Westi roof and so on. hope i can get it registered..... listening to you guys i have to get 20k $ instead and by something else locally

Are you importing from SA?
What state are you in?



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Jens,

This is deeply into can-of-worms territory!  For the reasons that I outlined before, it will depend entirely on what state you are in.

Broadly speaking, any pop top that is sold in Australia has to be approved by the registration authority of each individual state.  Sometimes, sanity prevails and the approval of the state in which the modification was produced will be accepted by the other states.  In other cases, the Divine Right takes precedence and other states will require individual approval. 

(If this sounds nonsensical, it is; it is governed by the fact that, whilst ADR acceptance is a Federal function, each state has its own vehicle registration function.  This is what they use to accept or reject any aspect of motor vehicles.  Whim plays a big part!!  Even interpretations of Federal requirement can vary wildly from state to state!)

The Trakka conversions were relatively unique in Australia in that they could be ordered off the VW dealer’s showroom floor.  A customer could order any level of Trakka conversion on a new vehicle and it was covered under the VW new vehicle warranty.  (Mine was one such vehicle.) 

Getting back to your queries, everything will depend on which state you live in.

Les

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hi, have been reading this very closely!

how do the trakka roof reinforcements look like? do you have to refit them?

if I have a trakka roof and refit it to another van, in the same way like it was fitted to the previous one and take it to the engineer whit the former engineers certificate could there be the chance tat its not approved? assuming he knows his stuff!

I wasn't aware of a difference in the T3 shape or form not even structural, to those driving around anywhere else in the world. (not SA, thats different)

not to stur up anything just out of curiosity,

I am awaiting my sycro Multivan to be delivered in May including its Westi roof and so on. hope i can get it registered..... listening to you guys i have to get 20k $ instead and by something else locally

Jens

 

 

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I am importing from Namibia, but the van is an import from Germany. It's going around the world, have to change the steering though. I have all parts for the conversion in another van.

I am in Sydney and thought that it would be worth it ,looking at the prices charged for one of these.
Jens

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Are you importing the van to remain here permanently or you will export and take it with you?

Are you a permanent resident here?



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I am importing from Namibia, but the van is an import from Germany. It's going around the world, have to change the steering though. I have all parts for the conversion in another van.

I am in Sydney and thought that it would be worth it ,looking at the prices charged for one of these.
Jens

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I am on a long term working visa which allows me to apply for permanent, am planing on doing that if my employer doesn't send me somewhere els.






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If you are a permanent resident and have owned the vehicle for more than 12 months there will be no problems. You will probably just need child restraints and headlights for RHD. Maybe seat belts for the rear.



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I am on a long term working visa which allows me to apply for permanent, am planing on doing that if my employer doesn't send me somewhere els.

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The headlights are sorted, child restraints and the 3 point seat-belts for the 3 seater bench at the rear need to be installed but are available including brackets and so on.
Child restraints are a pussle to me because there are so many different opinions and ways on the i-net, that I thought, I first have a look at the points in the scrap van to be placed in mine. (Engineer permitting of cause)





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Sorry for stuffing up the pop top topic-
Jens

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