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Don't worry about the child restraints as sometimes they don't notice.

They are just nuts welded above the engine.



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The headlights are sorted, child restraints and the 3 point seat-belts for the 3 seater bench at the rear need to be installed but are available including brackets and so on.
Child restraints are a pussle to me because there are so many different opinions and ways on the i-net, that I thought, I first have a look at the points in the scrap van to be placed in mine (Engineer permitting of cause)

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Hi All,

Going back a few posts, yes my van has a westy roof, though not put on properly. I wish I knew more then compared with what I know now, a lot of the metal from the westy donor van should be cut and welded onto the recipient van. Mine was more cut a hole, fabricate a pillar, and screw 'er on, she'll be apples. Engineer has approved, so somewhat doesn't make a difference, but I know it could have been done better.

Apparently in the UK there were Westy type roofs but were made properly to fit on non-westy vans? Forget the name for these. Also cabinetry and fit-outs along these lines.

Yes need engineering (talking about NSW, cant comment on other states), though apparently there were changes that were going to be bought in, don't know if they have or not, something about you cant just shop for the right engineer, if an engineer doesn't like your mods, he marks it on the database, then that same engineer has to then give final approval, you cant just find another engineer who will pass it. So find the right engineer before cutting and ensure he approves what you plan to do. Yes for 4 or 5 seater rego you will need lap sash belts needing the 'Z-Bar'. As mine was a telstra panel van had to fabricate a lot of seat belt mounting points.

Cheers, Sam

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Heh Jens,

though about keeping the integrity of the original body and investing $ 1700 in a roof top tent ? Great feeling high up and no Olifants here to disturb your sleep....

Just a though  Hartmut




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No, but we have some vey tall emus!!

 

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Heh Jens,

Thought about keeping the integrity of the original body and investing $ 1700 in a roof top tent? Great feeling high up and no Olifants here to disturb your sleep....

Just a thought.  Hartmut

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When I was replacing the Trakka pop-top struts a few years ago, I needed to remove the ceiling lining to get at the back of the bottom fastener position of the strut over the sliding door. This provided a partial "window" opportunity to see what pop-top base frame "lateral reinforcement" is in place. What I saw was a 100-125mm wide piece of plywood set more or less horizontal and running longitudinally. I wonder how much moolah was exchanged for this suss approval?

Hence in my view I tend to think the fastened down/heavy pop-top acts to stiffen the base frame/van side walls, not the other way round. Pretty slack design either way. 

Ken


To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 12:07:34 +1100
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Pop top conversions/ SYD (who still does)

 


how do the trakka roof reinforcements look like? do you have to refit them?

I don't think that there is any.


if i have a trakka roof and refit it to another van, in the same way like it was fitted to the previous one and take it to the engineer whit the former engineers certificate could there be the chance tat its not approved?

Just take it to another one.


 assuming he knows his stuff!

There's the problem.


i wasn't aware of a difference in the T3 shape or form not even structural, to those driving around anywhere else in the world. (not SA, thats different)

The Westfalia uses a different body to a normal van and has built in reinforcing. I don't know about a T3, but on the T2 the floor also had reinforcing.


i am awaiting my sycro Multivan to be delivered in May including its Westi roof and so on. hope i can get it registered..... listening to you guys i have to get 20k $ instead and by something else locally

Are you importing from SA?
What state are you in?
 



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I'm trying to get a QLD Trakka van rego'd in WA.

Final hurdle is the Trakka fitted Aux. Fuel Tank which had to have a permit
and other nonsense. Ironically they didn't pick up on non standard wheels ( 15 ")
or a split muffler and leaking shocks.

Reckon I'm just about there. Easy to see where our taxes go supporting this
huge system of public servants and !@#$

Buy in the same state is my advice although I had a ripper trip driving over.

Mark
--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Les Harris" <leslieharris@...> wrote:
>
> Engineering inspection, assessment and approval is required for all
> structural modifications to a vehicle in order to obtain registration.
>
> Separately, inspection and approval is required to ensure that the vehicle
> complies with ADRs.
>
> No insurance company will touch a vehicle that is no so approved. In the
> event that a vehicle is insured but has modifications not known to the
> insurance company, they have no legal obligation to pay out in the event of
> a crash - any crash, related or not.
>
> Unfortunately, Australia labours under an unbelievably costly dinosaur
> called "States". Every State operates on the Divine Right principle, which
> was passably understandable 150 years ago but legally entitles each state to
> enact its own legislation and that's exactly what happens in the area of
> vehicle modifications. In general, it conflicts with every other State but
> - hey! - that's our Divine Right!!
>
> The end result is that each state has its own version of engineering
> requirements. Something legally acceptable in Victoria probably won't be in
> at least two other states and vice versa. Mercifully, ADRs are Federal and
> the states have no say in them but, be assured, if they did we would have
> six completely different and conflicting sets of regulations!!
>
> The cost of this nonsense is incalculable but - hey! - that's out Divine
> Right!!
> Les
>
> _____
>
> From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> plander@...
> Sent: 07 March 2013 10:41
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Pop top conversions/ SYD (who still
> does)
>
>
>
> Nope, but Les is.
>
> Did you see the balcony collapse on the news. That was certified by an
> engineer. Was it legal?
>
> Do you understand what I am getting at?
>
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I would totally agree Mark.

The across Australia trip is a fantastic adventure.

Take any photos?

Cheers,

Skot

On 7/03/2013 8:34 PM, mark wrote:
 

I'm trying to get a QLD Trakka van rego'd in WA.

Final hurdle is the Trakka fitted Aux. Fuel Tank which had to have a permit
and other nonsense. Ironically they didn't pick up on non standard wheels ( 15 ")
or a split muffler and leaking shocks.

Reckon I'm just about there. Easy to see where our taxes go supporting this
huge system of public servants and !@#$

Buy in the same state is my advice although I had a ripper trip driving over.

Mark
--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Les Harris" <leslieharris@...> wrote:
>
> Engineering inspection, assessment and approval is required for all
> structural modifications to a vehicle in order to obtain registration.
>
> Separately, inspection and approval is required to ensure that the vehicle
> complies with ADRs.
>
> No insurance company will touch a vehicle that is no so approved. In the
> event that a vehicle is insured but has modifications not known to the
> insurance company, they have no legal obligation to pay out in the event of
> a crash - any crash, related or not.
>
> Unfortunately, Australia labours under an unbelievably costly dinosaur
> called "States". Every State operates on the Divine Right principle, which
> was passably understandable 150 years ago but legally entitles each state to
> enact its own legislation and that's exactly what happens in the area of
> vehicle modifications. In general, it conflicts with every other State but
> - hey! - that's our Divine Right!!
>
> The end result is that each state has its own version of engineering
> requirements. Something legally acceptable in Victoria probably won't be in
> at least two other states and vice versa. Mercifully, ADRs are Federal and
> the states have no say in them but, be assured, if they did we would have
> six completely different and conflicting sets of regulations!!
>
> The cost of this nonsense is incalculable but - hey! - that's out Divine
> Right!!
> Les
>
> _____
>
> From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> plander@...
> Sent: 07 March 2013 10:41
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Pop top conversions/ SYD (who still
> does)
>
>
>
> Nope, but Les is.
>
> Did you see the balcony collapse on the news. That was certified by an
> engineer. Was it legal?
>
> Do you understand what I am getting at?
>


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Hi Folks,

I gave my syncro a good run today on what turned out to be a fairly warm
day.

The new radiator is amazing.

Instead of the van running well past the middle point as it had done for
the last year it stayed on the cooler side of the little red light.

Even at 110km/hr for a 15 minute period the temp didn't move even onto
the red light.

Still in heavy traffic the needle would get to half way but that's it.
The fan came on once all day.

Very happy - amazing what 15mm of extra thickness makes - probably 30
degrees.

Cheers,

Skot
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Well said Les. Having worked in the State bureaucracy in Tasmania and worked on various interstate working parties I can only endorse the views of all who have posted on this matter. Our Federal system is actually holding the country back in many areas, not just transport.

Then was my first hand experience in buying my Syncro in Victoria and having to get the registration transferred in NSW. Despite the vehicle having been happily registered each year in Victoria for all its life, I was told I needed a engineers certificate to get it registered in NSW. Luckily the pop top conversion had been done in NSW before it was sent down to Melbourne where it was first registered in 1988 and we found an obscure sticker that indicated it had some type of NSW MOT approval. Sanity prevailed but not without a fight with some turkey in the then RTA.

Peter from Port (which is gradually drying out at last!!!!)

 

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Peter,

On top of all that is the fact that it is often difficult to get past the bottom tier employees of the various registration bodies.  They are in a position to make arbitrary decisions and refuse to pass it up the line for adjudication by someone technically qualified in this area. 

Les

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Peter Coe
Sent: 08 March 2013 10:42
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Pop top conversions/ SYD (who still does)

Well said Les. Having worked in the State bureaucracy in Tasmania and worked on various interstate working parties I can only endorse the views of all who have posted on this matter. Our Federal system is actually holding the country back in many areas, not just transport.

 

Peter from Port (which is gradually drying out at last!!!!)

 

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Hi Les,
We had an amazing Tassi trip, I did the East Coast and Bruny Island, love Bruny. Unfortunately 
I had to abandon my friends and make my way home and I am heavily indebted to Paul who 
Accompanied me most of the way. I was a tad scared on my own as the engine misfired badly on two occasions for no apparent reason other then maybe bad fuel.
Cruising the Hume we experienced the most horrifying headwind which totally destroyed my average fuel consumption . Having clocked 3916km for the round trip, I used  643.5 ltrs of 95 okt
at 1065.26 Dollars. Nothing comes cheap any more ! So the average was 16.58 lt/100km.
Oil consumption was one litre per one thousand km. Happy with that for a 400 thou/24 yr old engine. I will leave a proper run down of the tour in more capable hands especially  as I did not complete the trip. 
At home at the coal face I am working 10 hrs per day to get some order back, just pulled out from under our living quarter a huge tree trunk, also cleared the entrance so people can visit . Been to the tip with a huge load, it was a freebie .Have a huge fire going, un authorised , uncertified ,very proud.

Hartmut

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On 08/03/2013, at 11:37 AM, "Les Harris" <leslieharris@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

 

Peter,

On top of all that is the fact that it is often difficult to get past the bottom tier employees of the various registration bodies.  They are in a position to make arbitrary decisions and refuse to pass it up the line for adjudication by someone technically qualified in this area. 

Les

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Peter Coe
Sent: 08 March 2013 10:42
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Pop top conversions/ SYD (who still does)

Well said Les. Having worked in the State bureaucracy in Tasmania and worked on various interstate working parties I can only endorse the views of all who have posted on this matter. Our Federal system is actually holding the country back in many areas, not just transport.

 

Peter from Port (which is gradually drying out at last!!!!)

 

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Well done Hart.

Hope you son in law was helping! Didn't find any dead bodies around the house?

Nothing that good bon-fire wont fix. Burn away!

Catch ya soon.

Cheers,

Skot

On 8/03/2013 12:35 PM, Hartmut Kiehn wrote:
Hi Les,
We had an amazing Tassi trip, I did the East Coast and Bruny Island, love Bruny. Unfortunately
I had to abandon my friends and make my way home and I am heavily indebted to Paul who
Accompanied me most of the way. I was a tad scared on my own as the engine misfired badly on two occasions for no apparent reason other then maybe bad fuel.
Cruising the Hume we experienced the most horrifying headwind which totally destroyed my average fuel consumption . Having clocked 3916km for the round trip, I used 643.5 ltrs of 95 okt
at 1065.26 Dollars. Nothing comes cheap any more ! So the average was 16.58 lt/100km.
Oil consumption was one litre per one thousand km. Happy with that for a 400 thou/24 yr old engine. I will leave a proper run down of the tour in more capable hands especially as I did not complete the trip.
At home at the coal face I am working 10 hrs per day to get some order back, just pulled out from under our living quarter a huge tree trunk, also cleared the entrance so people can visit . Been to the tip with a huge load, it was a freebie .Have a huge fire going, un authorised , uncertified ,very proud.

Hartmut

from my iParsleyCutter

On 08/03/2013, at 11:37 AM, "Les Harris" <leslieharris@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

Peter,

On top of all that is the fact that it is often difficult to get past the bottom tier employees of the various registration bodies. They are in a position to make arbitrary decisions and refuse to pass it up the line for adjudication by someone technically qualified in this area.

Les

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Peter Coe
Sent: 08 March 2013 10:42
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Pop top conversions/ SYD (who still does)

Well said Les. Having worked in the State bureaucracy in Tasmania and worked on various interstate working parties I can only endorse the views of all who have posted on this matter. Our Federal system is actually holding the country back in many areas, not just transport.

Peter from Port (which is gradually drying out at last!!!!)


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Skot and all, what touched me most was the offer from Syncro members to come and help....
Some Melbomites who were prepared to travel 3 grand kms to help out. Thank you all so much and especially Les to keep this incredible bunch of individualists in line.
Hartmut --- driving  Syncro since 1988 
Sent from my iPad

On 08/03/2013, at 2:30 PM, "Mr Scott Pitcher" <spbconsulting@bigpond.com> wrote:

 

Well done Hart.

Hope you son in law was helping! Didn't find any dead bodies around the house?

Nothing that good bon-fire wont fix. Burn away!

Catch ya soon.

Cheers,

Skot

On 8/03/2013 12:35 PM, Hartmut Kiehn wrote:
 
Hi Les,
We had an amazing Tassi trip, I did the East Coast and Bruny Island, love Bruny. Unfortunately 
I had to abandon my friends and make my way home and I am heavily indebted to Paul who 
Accompanied me most of the way. I was a tad scared on my own as the engine misfired badly on two occasions for no apparent reason other then maybe bad fuel.
Cruising the Hume we experienced the most horrifying headwind which totally destroyed my average fuel consumption . Having clocked 3916km for the round trip, I used  643.5 ltrs of 95 okt
at 1065.26 Dollars. Nothing comes cheap any more ! So the average was 16.58 lt/100km.
Oil consumption was one litre per one thousand km. Happy with that for a 400 thou/24 yr old engine. I will leave a proper run down of the tour in more capable hands especially  as I did not complete the trip. 
At home at the coal face I am working 10 hrs per day to get some order back, just pulled out from under our living quarter a huge tree trunk, also cleared the entrance so people can visit . Been to the tip with a huge load, it was a freebie .Have a huge fire going, un authorised , uncertified ,very proud.

Hartmut

 from my iParsleyCutter

On 08/03/2013, at 11:37 AM, "Les Harris" <leslieharris@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

 

Peter,

On top of all that is the fact that it is often difficult to get past the bottom tier employees of the various registration bodies.  They are in a position to make arbitrary decisions and refuse to pass it up the line for adjudication by someone technically qualified in this area. 

Les

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Peter Coe
Sent: 08 March 2013 10:42
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Pop top conversions/ SYD (who still does)

Well said Les. Having worked in the State bureaucracy in Tasmania and worked on various interstate working parties I can only endorse the views of all who have posted on this matter. Our Federal system is actually holding the country back in many areas, not just transport.

 

Peter from Port (which is gradually drying out at last!!!!)

 


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I think this discussion has been swayed by the fact that alot of the members of this forum are from NSW.  The NSW system is way to hard and involves too many processes in my opinion. My van was converted in WA and then taken to Queensland. When I brought it to Victoria all I had to do was get a RWC. Greg.

From: Peter Coe <peter@coeconsult.com.au>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 8 March 2013 10:41 AM
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Pop top conversions/ SYD (who still does)
 
Well said Les. Having worked in the State bureaucracy in Tasmania and worked on various interstate working parties I can only endorse the views of all who have posted on this matter. Our Federal system is actually holding the country back in many areas, not just transport.
Then was my first hand experience in buying my Syncro in Victoria and having to get the registration transferred in NSW. Despite the vehicle having been happily registered each year in Victoria for all its life, I was told I needed a engineers certificate to get it registered in NSW. Luckily the pop top conversion had been done in NSW before it was sent down to Melbourne where it was first registered in 1988 and we found an obscure sticker that indicated it had some type of NSW MOT approval. Sanity prevailed but not without a fight with some turkey in the then RTA.
Peter from Port (which is gradually drying out at last!!!!)
 
 
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Greg,

Whilst this is completely true, we have members from other countries which have rather saner regulations than we have in Australia and they need to be informed how fractured and capricious our “system” is in Australia.  (I am currently corresponding with two people [not members] about bringing their Syncros to Australia for varying terms.)

Les

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of greg esposito
Sent: 08 March 2013 15:13
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Pop top conversions/ SYD (who still does)

 

 

I think this discussion has been swayed by the fact that alot of the members of this forum are from NSW.  The NSW system is way to hard and involves too many processes in my opinion. My van was converted in WA and then taken to Queensland. When I brought it to Victoria all I had to do was get a RWC. Greg.

 

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wow ...
4K km is 2,400 miles..
and it cost one thousand dollars to go only 2,400 miles !?

( not sure what that is in 'my' US dollars ..but it sounds like a lot of bread ( cash ) for fuel. )
I hope it was a great trip !

I like that ...'the coal face' . Might use it sometime. That's where I am now.

On 3/7/2013 5:35 PM, Hartmut Kiehn wrote:
Hi Les,
We had an amazing Tassi trip, I did the East Coast and Bruny Island, love Bruny. Unfortunately
I had to abandon my friends and make my way home and I am heavily indebted to Paul who
Accompanied me most of the way. I was a tad scared on my own as the engine misfired badly on two occasions for no apparent reason other then maybe bad fuel.
Cruising the Hume we experienced the most horrifying headwind which totally destroyed my average fuel consumption . Having clocked 3916km for the round trip, I used 643.5 ltrs of 95 okt
at 1065.26 Dollars. Nothing comes cheap any more ! So the average was 16.58 lt/100km.
Oil consumption was one litre per one thousand km. Happy with that for a 400 thou/24 yr old engine. I will leave a proper run down of the tour in more capable hands especially as I did not complete the trip.
At home at the coal face I am working 10 hrs per day to get some order back, just pulled out from under our living quarter a huge tree trunk, also cleared the entrance so people can visit . Been to the tip with a huge load, it was a freebie .Have a huge fire going, un authorised , uncertified ,very proud.

Hartmut

from my iParsleyCutter

On 08/03/2013, at 11:37 AM, "Les Harris" <leslieharris@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

Peter,

On top of all that is the fact that it is often difficult to get past the bottom tier employees of the various registration bodies. They are in a position to make arbitrary decisions and refuse to pass it up the line for adjudication by someone technically qualified in this area.

Les

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Peter Coe
Sent: 08 March 2013 10:42
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Pop top conversions/ SYD (who still does)

Well said Les. Having worked in the State bureaucracy in Tasmania and worked on various interstate working parties I can only endorse the views of all who have posted on this matter. Our Federal system is actually holding the country back in many areas, not just transport.

Peter from Port (which is gradually drying out at last!!!!)


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Mark,
 
 
It may have been easier to get a PO Box, Qld taxman doesnt seem to mind if you are transient (yes a pop top doesnt prove transciency) as its more $ in thier Treasury.
 
Also just look at all the registered WA cars backpackers are driving around in Nth NSW.
 
Qld dont have an annual inspection.

From: mark <m.mullet@yahoo.com.au>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 7 March 2013 1:34 AM
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Pop top conversions/ SYD (who still does)
 
I'm trying to get a QLD Trakka van rego'd in WA.

Final hurdle is the Trakka fitted Aux. Fuel Tank which had to have a permit
and other nonsense. Ironically they didn't pick up on non standard wheels ( 15 ")
or a split muffler and leaking shocks.

Reckon I'm just about there. Easy to see where our taxes go supporting this
huge system of public servants and !@#$

Buy in the same state is my advice although I had a ripper trip driving over.

Mark
--- In mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com, "Les Harris" <leslieharris@...> wrote:
>
> Engineering inspection, assessment and approval is required for all
> structural modifications to a vehicle in order to obtain registration.
>
> Separately, inspection and approval is required to ensure that the vehicle
> complies with ADRs.
>
> No insurance company will touch a vehicle that is no so approved. In the
> event that a vehicle is insured but has modifications not known to the
> insurance company, they have no legal obligation to pay out in the event of
> a crash - any crash, related or not.
>
> Unfortunately, Australia labours under an unbelievably costly dinosaur
> called "States". Every State operates on the Divine Right principle, which
> was passably understandable 150 years ago but legally entitles each state to
> enact its own legislation and that's exactly what happens in the area of
> vehicle modifications. In general, it conflicts with every other State but
> - hey! - that's our Divine Right!!
>
> The end result is that each state has its own version of engineering
> requirements. Something legally acceptable in Victoria probably won't be in
> at least two other states and vice versa. Mercifully, ADRs are Federal and
> the states have no say in them but, be assured, if they did we would have
> six completely different and conflicting sets of regulations!!
>
> The cost of this nonsense is incalculable but - hey! - that's out Divine
> Right!!
> Les
>
> _____
>
> From: mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> plander@...
> Sent: 07 March 2013 10:41
> To: mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Pop top conversions/ SYD (who still
> does)
>
>
>
> Nope, but Les is.
>
> Did you see the balcony collapse on the news. That was certified by an
> engineer. Was it legal?
>
> Do you understand what I am getting at?
>

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All in all not that hard Phillip. Had to get an immobilizer fitted, weigh the van ( 2.06 tonne empty for the curious ),tell the mechanic that the front lower control arm bushes do not sit central and this is normal, and then pay $19.60 for a mod permit for the Trakka fuel tank, plus inspection to complete necessary form.
In between work and fixing other syncro ( water pump under warranty )it's taken me a month so far.
I would have to say though that finding a sensible roadworthy inspector has made it fairly pleasant.
Re Hart's fuel economy I averaged about 13l / 100km on the trip over but I'm a 100kmh sort of driver.

Mark

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Philip Macrae <philipmacrae@...> wrote:
>
> Mark,
> Â
> Â
> It may have been easier to get a PO Box, Qld taxman doesnt seem to mind if you are transient (yes a pop top doesnt prove transciency)Â as its more $ in thier Treasury.
> Â
> Also just look at all the registered WA cars backpackers are driving around in Nth NSW.
> Â
> Qld dont have an annual inspection.
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Posted a few pics here of the trip over..
Most of my footage is video which should one day be edited into a little road trip movie..

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Syncro_T3_Australia/photos/album/2096749801/pic/list

Keep travellin...

Mark