Prestige AC system

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A pic is worth a thousand words. Can you post one? I'm not anywhere any of my T3's. Otherwise, I'd have a better idea what you are referring to.


BenT

sent from my electronic leash

On Nov 27, 2011, at 5:17 PM, "Greg" <greg_navarro95@yahoo.com> wrote:

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> Hi Les and other Prestige A/C people. I am up to fitting the original VW A/C bracket at the moment and having difficulty fixing the rear RH mounting bolt because the pipe that leads into the intake air distriutor is just over the top of the bolt hole.
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> --- In Syncroe_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Les Harris" <leslieharris@...> wrote:
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>> Whilst on the subject of Prestige, I would remind anyone who has one that
>> the Prestige supplied mounting for the compressor is something normally
>> found only on heavy earthmoving equipment.
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>> It is extremely crude and has the capability of breaking off the crankcase
>> mounting boss at the left rear of the crankcase. This had happened to mine
>> before I bought it.
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>> I was alerted to the problem when I noticed that the compressor pulley did
>> not align with the crankshaft pulley. I dismantled it to find why and
>> discovered that the rear left boss had been broken off.
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>> Use the original VW mounting!
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>> Les
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Greg,

Yes I've just refitted the said AC bracket ... it's one of my favourite things to do.   HA!

Wire brush and lube the bolt threads in question beforehand, if possible, pre clean and lube the thread in the boss as well. I know, it's difficult.

Get up INTO the engine bay, straddle the engine, head toward drivers side. Now this will take some dexterity, but put your left hand under the frontside air intake pipes and right hand under the rearside air intake pipes. Flying blind, manipulate the bolt into position and get the bolt started on the thread. Handscrew the bolt in as far as possible. Then select various spanners to suit the available space between the frontside air intake pipe and the firewall. Figure out how to tighten it the best you can, adapting whatever tools you have. The other three bolts can be simply tightened using a 17mm socket and extension wrench. Fun times!

Cheers.

Ken

To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: greg_navarro95@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 01:17:35 +0000
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Prestige AC system

 

Hi Les and other Prestige A/C people. I am up to fitting the original VW A/C bracket at the moment and having difficulty fixing the rear RH mounting bolt because the pipe that leads into the intake air distriutor is just over the top of the bolt hole.

Have others had this issue and is the only fix to remove the pipe altogether? Greg

--- In Syncroe_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Les Harris" <leslieharris@...> wrote:
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> Whilst on the subject of Prestige, I would remind anyone who has one that
> the Prestige supplied mounting for the compressor is something normally
> found only on heavy earthmoving equipment.
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> It is extremely crude and has the capability of breaking off the crankcase
> mounting boss at the left rear of the crankcase. This had happened to mine
> before I bought it.
>
> I was alerted to the problem when I noticed that the compressor pulley did
> not align with the crankshaft pulley. I dismantled it to find why and
> discovered that the rear left boss had been broken off.
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> Use the original VW mounting!
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> Les
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Ken, I think when gassing r134a the bubbles stop in the sight glass and then it will need more gas, unlike r12. Your man would I assume be using the sight glass as a reference and looking at his pressures. It is possible to work out the system capacity by having the specs of all the components and measing the pipe diameter and length. No one will ever actually sit down and do it though. The tx valve injects the gas in to the evaporator, if it were broken it would show on the pressure gauges. Greg E

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Ken Garratt <unclekenz@...> wrote:
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> Greg,
> Yes I've just refitted the said AC bracket ... it's one of my favourite things to do. HA!
> Wire brush and lube the bolt threads in question beforehand, if possible, pre clean and lube the thread in the boss as well. I know, it's difficult.
> Get up INTO the engine bay, straddle the engine, head toward drivers side. Now this will take some dexterity, but put your left hand under the frontside air intake pipes and right hand under the rearside air intake pipes. Flying blind, manipulate the bolt into position and get the bolt started on the thread. Handscrew the bolt in as far as possible. Then select various spanners to suit the available space between the frontside air intake pipe and the firewall. Figure out how to tighten it the best you can, adapting whatever tools you have. The other three bolts can be simply tightened using a 17mm socket and extension wrench. Fun times!
> Cheers.
> Ken
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> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
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> Have others had this issue and is the only fix to remove the pipe altogether? Greg
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> --- In Syncroe_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Les Harris" <leslieharris@> wrote:
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> > mounting boss at the left rear of the crankcase. This had happened to mine
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> > I was alerted to the problem when I noticed that the compressor pulley did
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> > not align with the crankshaft pulley. I dismantled it to find why and
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> > discovered that the rear left boss had been broken off.
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Thanks Ken, The bolt for the bracket has a round head and allen key thingy in the head. It is actually too long to fit under the pipe in question and wants to go in on an angle. The VW bracket requires that it couldnt be much shorter or it wouldnt have any thread after it goes through the bracket. I take it the bolt you have used is a standard hex head bolt. So your method doesnt look like it will fit for me or am I looking at this wrong. Greg

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Ken Garratt <unclekenz@...> wrote:
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> Greg,
> Yes I've just refitted the said AC bracket ... it's one of my favourite things to do. HA!
> Wire brush and lube the bolt threads in question beforehand, if possible, pre clean and lube the thread in the boss as well. I know, it's difficult.
> Get up INTO the engine bay, straddle the engine, head toward drivers side. Now this will take some dexterity, but put your left hand under the frontside air intake pipes and right hand under the rearside air intake pipes. Flying blind, manipulate the bolt into position and get the bolt started on the thread. Handscrew the bolt in as far as possible. Then select various spanners to suit the available space between the frontside air intake pipe and the firewall. Figure out how to tighten it the best you can, adapting whatever tools you have. The other three bolts can be simply tightened using a 17mm socket and extension wrench. Fun times!
> Cheers.
> Ken
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> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> From: greg_navarro95@...
> Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 01:17:35 +0000
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Prestige AC system
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> Have others had this issue and is the only fix to remove the pipe altogether? Greg
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> --- In Syncroe_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Les Harris" <leslieharris@> wrote:
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> > the Prestige supplied mounting for the compressor is something normally
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> > found only on heavy earthmoving equipment.
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> > It is extremely crude and has the capability of breaking off the crankcase
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> > mounting boss at the left rear of the crankcase. This had happened to mine
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> > I was alerted to the problem when I noticed that the compressor pulley did
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> > not align with the crankshaft pulley. I dismantled it to find why and
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Greg,
I believe Les and Hartmut more recently have installed this AC compressor bracket I see now you are asking about. Perhaps either or both have some knowledge of how to install this particular bolt. Les and/or Hartmut, chime in please?
Ken

To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: greg_navarro95@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 08:57:44 +0000
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Prestige AC system

 

Thanks Ken, The bolt for the bracket has a round head and allen key thingy in the head. It is actually too long to fit under the pipe in question and wants to go in on an angle. The VW bracket requires that it couldnt be much shorter or it wouldnt have any thread after it goes through the bracket. I take it the bolt you have used is a standard hex head bolt. So your method doesnt look like it will fit for me or am I looking at this wrong. Greg

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Ken Garratt <unclekenz@...> wrote:
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> Greg,
> Yes I've just refitted the said AC bracket ... it's one of my favourite things to do. HA!
> Wire brush and lube the bolt threads in question beforehand, if possible, pre clean and lube the thread in the boss as well. I know, it's difficult.
> Get up INTO the engine bay, straddle the engine, head toward drivers side. Now this will take some dexterity, but put your left hand under the frontside air intake pipes and right hand under the rearside air intake pipes. Flying blind, manipulate the bolt into position and get the bolt started on the thread. Handscrew the bolt in as far as possible. Then select various spanners to suit the available space between the frontside air intake pipe and the firewall. Figure out how to tighten it the best you can, adapting whatever tools you have. The other three bolts can be simply tightened using a 17mm socket and extension wrench. Fun times!
> Cheers.
> Ken
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> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> From: greg_navarro95@...
> Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 01:17:35 +0000
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Prestige AC system
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> Have others had this issue and is the only fix to remove the pipe altogether? Greg
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> --- In Syncroe_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Les Harris" <leslieharris@> wrote:
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> > the Prestige supplied mounting for the compressor is something normally
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> > It is extremely crude and has the capability of breaking off the crankcase
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> > mounting boss at the left rear of the crankcase. This had happened to mine
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> > not align with the crankshaft pulley. I dismantled it to find why and
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> > discovered that the rear left boss had been broken off.
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Greg,
Those wanting to better understand automobile AC system theory, the attached pdf file might help. Or else, maybe a little bit of knowledge might be dangerous!
Cheers.
Ken
 

To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: gregespo73@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 02:45:31 +0000
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Prestige AC system

 


Ken, I think when gassing r134a the bubbles stop in the sight glass and then it will need more gas, unlike r12. Your man would I assume be using the sight glass as a reference and looking at his pressures. It is possible to work out the system capacity by having the specs of all the components and measing the pipe diameter and length. No one will ever actually sit down and do it though. The tx valve injects the gas in to the evaporator, if it were broken it would show on the pressure gauges. Greg E

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Ken Garratt <unclekenz@...> wrote:
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> Greg,
> Yes I've just refitted the said AC bracket ... it's one of my favourite things to do. HA!
> Wire brush and lube the bolt threads in question beforehand, if possible, pre clean and lube the thread in the boss as well. I know, it's difficult.
> Get up INTO the engine bay, straddle the engine, head toward drivers side. Now this will take some dexterity, but put your left hand under the frontside air intake pipes and right hand under the rearside air intake pipes. Flying blind, manipulate the bolt into position and get the bolt started on the thread. Handscrew the bolt in as far as possible. Then select various spanners to suit the available space between the frontside air intake pipe and the firewall. Figure out how to tighten it the best you can, adapting whatever tools you have. The other three bolts can be simply tightened using a 17mm socket and extension wrench. Fun times!
> Cheers.
> Ken
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> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> From: greg_navarro95@...
> Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 01:17:35 +0000
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Prestige AC system
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> Have others had this issue and is the only fix to remove the pipe altogether? Greg
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> --- In Syncroe_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Les Harris" <leslieharris@> wrote:
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> > Whilst on the subject of Prestige, I would remind anyone who has one that
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> > the Prestige supplied mounting for the compressor is something normally
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> > found only on heavy earthmoving equipment.
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> > It is extremely crude and has the capability of breaking off the crankcase
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> > mounting boss at the left rear of the crankcase. This had happened to mine
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> > not align with the crankshaft pulley. I dismantled it to find why and
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> > discovered that the rear left boss had been broken off.
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Ken, Greg, I wrote yesterday about this, but my computer didn’t feel like transmitting it for me so here we go ...a bright new day. 

The bracket I sourced from BenT , I had it bead blasted and the steel bits I cleaned and painted them with POR 15.  I tried to install the thing but gave up on that forward bolt. Decided to take out the air intake arrangement  and thoroughly cleaned everything. The threads M10  I  think they are, I cleaned by running a tap through them, after installing the bracket I reinstalled the air intake and used the original squeeze clamps , as they were taken off with care.     Hope this helps.  Hartmut

 

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ken Garratt
Sent: Monday, 28 November 2011 10:56 PM
To: _T3_Australia forum Syncro
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Prestige AC system

 

 

Greg,

I believe Les and Hartmut more recently have installed this AC compressor bracket I see now you are asking about. Perhaps either or both have some knowledge of how to install this particular bolt. Les and/or Hartmut, chime in please?

Ken

To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: greg_navarro95@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 08:57:44 +0000
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Prestige AC system

 


Thanks Ken, The bolt for the bracket has a round head and allen key thingy in the head. It is actually too long to fit under the pipe in question and wants to go in on an angle. The VW bracket requires that it couldnt be much shorter or it wouldnt have any thread after it goes through the bracket. I take it the bolt you have used is a standard hex head bolt. So your method doesnt look like it will fit for me or am I looking at this wrong. Greg

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Ken Garratt <unclekenz@...> wrote:
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> Greg,
> Yes I've just refitted the said AC bracket ... it's one of my favourite things to do. HA!
> Wire brush and lube the bolt threads in question beforehand, if possible, pre clean and lube the thread in the boss as well. I know, it's difficult.
> Get up INTO the engine bay, straddle the engine, head toward drivers side. Now this will take some dexterity, but put your left hand under the frontside air intake pipes and right hand under the rearside air intake pipes. Flying blind, manipulate the bolt into position and get the bolt started on the thread. Handscrew the bolt in as far as possible. Then select various spanners to suit the available space between the frontside air intake pipe and the firewall. Figure out how to tighten it the best you can, adapting whatever tools you have. The other three bolts can be simply tightened using a 17mm socket and extension wrench. Fun times!
> Cheers.
> Ken
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> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> From: greg_navarro95@...
> Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 01:17:35 +0000
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Prestige AC system
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> Have others had this issue and is the only fix to remove the pipe altogether? Greg
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> --- In Syncroe_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Les Harris" <leslieharris@> wrote:
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> > Whilst on the subject of Prestige, I would remind anyone who has one that
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> > the Prestige supplied mounting for the compressor is something normally
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> > found only on heavy earthmoving equipment.
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> > It is extremely crude and has the capability of breaking off the crankcase
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> > mounting boss at the left rear of the crankcase. This had happened to mine
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> > before I bought it.
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> > I was alerted to the problem when I noticed that the compressor pulley did
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> > not align with the crankshaft pulley. I dismantled it to find why and
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> > discovered that the rear left boss had been broken off.
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Thanks Hartmut

Can you explain the sequence for removing the "air intake arrangement"?
How much has to come off?

Does it involve the injection area or can this be left insitu.

If I damage the clip when removing can this be replaced by a screw type hose clamp?

Regards Greg



--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Hartmut Kiehn" <hartis@...> wrote:
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> Ken, Greg, I wrote yesterday about this, but my computer didn't feel like
> transmitting it for me so here we go ...a bright new day.
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> The bracket I sourced from BenT , I had it bead blasted and the steel bits I
> cleaned and painted them with POR 15. I tried to install the thing but gave
> up on that forward bolt. Decided to take out the air intake arrangement and
> thoroughly cleaned everything. The threads M10 I think they are, I cleaned
> by running a tap through them, after installing the bracket I reinstalled
> the air intake and used the original squeeze clamps , as they were taken off
> with care. Hope this helps. Hartmut
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> From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ken Garratt
> Sent: Monday, 28 November 2011 10:56 PM
> To: _T3_Australia forum Syncro
> Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Prestige AC system
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> I believe Les and Hartmut more recently have installed this AC compressor
> bracket I see now you are asking about. Perhaps either or both have some
> knowledge of how to install this particular bolt. Les and/or Hartmut, chime
> in please?
>
> Ken
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> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> From: greg_navarro95@...
> Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 08:57:44 +0000
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Prestige AC system
>
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> Thanks Ken, The bolt for the bracket has a round head and allen key thingy
> in the head. It is actually too long to fit under the pipe in question and
> wants to go in on an angle. The VW bracket requires that it couldnt be much
> shorter or it wouldnt have any thread after it goes through the bracket. I
> take it the bolt you have used is a standard hex head bolt. So your method
> doesnt look like it will fit for me or am I looking at this wrong. Greg
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com> , Ken Garratt <unclekenz@>
> wrote:
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> > Greg,
> > Yes I've just refitted the said AC bracket ... it's one of my favourite
> things to do. HA!
> > Wire brush and lube the bolt threads in question beforehand, if possible,
> pre clean and lube the thread in the boss as well. I know, it's difficult.
> > Get up INTO the engine bay, straddle the engine, head toward drivers side.
> Now this will take some dexterity, but put your left hand under the
> frontside air intake pipes and right hand under the rearside air intake
> pipes. Flying blind, manipulate the bolt into position and get the bolt
> started on the thread. Handscrew the bolt in as far as possible. Then select
> various spanners to suit the available space between the frontside air
> intake pipe and the firewall. Figure out how to tighten it the best you can,
> adapting whatever tools you have. The other three bolts can be simply
> tightened using a 17mm socket and extension wrench. Fun times!
> > Cheers.
> > Ken
> >
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com>
> > From: greg_navarro95@
> > Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 01:17:35 +0000
> > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Prestige AC system
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> A/C bracket at the moment and having difficulty fixing the rear RH mounting
> bolt because the pipe that leads into the intake air distriutor is just over
> the top of the bolt hole.
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> > Have others had this issue and is the only fix to remove the pipe
> altogether? Greg
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> > --- In Syncroe_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Syncroe_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com> , "Les Harris"
> <leslieharris@> wrote:
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> > > Whilst on the subject of Prestige, I would remind anyone who has one
> that
> >
> > > the Prestige supplied mounting for the compressor is something normally
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> > > found only on heavy earthmoving equipment.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > It is extremely crude and has the capability of breaking off the
> crankcase
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> > > mounting boss at the left rear of the crankcase. This had happened to
> mine
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> > > before I bought it.
> >
> > >
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> > > I was alerted to the problem when I noticed that the compressor pulley
> did
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> > > not align with the crankshaft pulley. I dismantled it to find why and
> >
> > > discovered that the rear left boss had been broken off.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Use the original VW mounting!
> >
> > >
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> > > Les
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From memory Greg,

·         Disconnect battery (always good practice)

·         Check the 2 hoses between manifold and intake tubes for cracks. Get new ones first if required .

·         Undo the 2 clamps , screw types are ok for installation

·         Disconnect 2 yellow plugs on injectors

·         Disconnect 2 fuel supply hoses

·         Undo 2 M8 bolts holding arrangement to cyl head

·         Take out assembly

 

You might have to replace the gasket between cylinder head and intake assembly.

Good luck , hope this helps

H.

 

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Greg
Sent: Tuesday, 29 November 2011 7:59 AM
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Prestige AC system

 

 



Thanks Hartmut

Can you explain the sequence for removing the "air intake arrangement"?
How much has to come off?

Does it involve the injection area or can this be left insitu.

If I damage the clip when removing can this be replaced by a screw type hose clamp?

Regards Greg

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Hartmut Kiehn" <hartis@...> wrote:
>
> Ken, Greg, I wrote yesterday about this, but my computer didn't feel like
> transmitting it for me so here we go ...a bright new day.
>
> The bracket I sourced from BenT , I had it bead blasted and the steel bits I
> cleaned and painted them with POR 15. I tried to install the thing but gave
> up on that forward bolt. Decided to take out the air intake arrangement and
> thoroughly cleaned everything. The threads M10 I think they are, I cleaned
> by running a tap through them, after installing the bracket I reinstalled
> the air intake and used the original squeeze clamps , as they were taken off
> with care. Hope this helps. Hartmut
>
>
>
> From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ken Garratt
> Sent: Monday, 28 November 2011 10:56 PM
> To: _T3_Australia forum Syncro
> Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Prestige AC system
>
>
>
>
>
> Greg,
>
> I believe Les and Hartmut more recently have installed this AC compressor
> bracket I see now you are asking about. Perhaps either or both have some
> knowledge of how to install this particular bolt. Les and/or Hartmut, chime
> in please?
>
> Ken
>
> _____
>
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> From: greg_navarro95@...
> Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 08:57:44 +0000
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Prestige AC system
>
>
>
>
> Thanks Ken, The bolt for the bracket has a round head and allen key thingy
> in the head. It is actually too long to fit under the pipe in question and
> wants to go in on an angle. The VW bracket requires that it couldnt be much
> shorter or it wouldnt have any thread after it goes through the bracket. I
> take it the bolt you have used is a standard hex head bolt. So your method
> doesnt look like it will fit for me or am I looking at this wrong. Greg
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com> , Ken Garratt <unclekenz@>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Greg,
> > Yes I've just refitted the said AC bracket ... it's one of my favourite
> things to do. HA!
> > Wire brush and lube the bolt threads in question beforehand, if possible,
> pre clean and lube the thread in the boss as well. I know, it's difficult.
> > Get up INTO the engine bay, straddle the engine, head toward drivers side.
> Now this will take some dexterity, but put your left hand under the
> frontside air intake pipes and right hand under the rearside air intake
> pipes. Flying blind, manipulate the bolt into position and get the bolt
> started on the thread. Handscrew the bolt in as far as possible. Then select
> various spanners to suit the available space between the frontside air
> intake pipe and the firewall. Figure out how to tighten it the best you can,
> adapting whatever tools you have. The other three bolts can be simply
> tightened using a 17mm socket and extension wrench. Fun times!
> > Cheers.
> > Ken
> >
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com>
> > From: greg_navarro95@
> > Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 01:17:35 +0000
> > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Prestige AC system
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Les and other Prestige A/C people. I am up to fitting the original VW
> A/C bracket at the moment and having difficulty fixing the rear RH mounting
> bolt because the pipe that leads into the intake air distriutor is just over
> the top of the bolt hole.
> >
> >
> >
> > Have others had this issue and is the only fix to remove the pipe
> altogether? Greg
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In Syncroe_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Syncroe_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com> , "Les Harris"
> <leslieharris@> wrote:
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Whilst on the subject of Prestige, I would remind anyone who has one
> that
> >
> > > the Prestige supplied mounting for the compressor is something normally
> >
> > > found only on heavy earthmoving equipment.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > It is extremely crude and has the capability of breaking off the
> crankcase
> >
> > > mounting boss at the left rear of the crankcase. This had happened to
> mine
> >
> > > before I bought it.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > I was alerted to the problem when I noticed that the compressor pulley
> did
> >
> > > not align with the crankshaft pulley. I dismantled it to find why and
> >
> > > discovered that the rear left boss had been broken off.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Use the original VW mounting!
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Les
> >
> > >
> >
> > > ,___
> >
> > >
> >
>

70
Thankyou Hartmut

Can I upset the fuel injection system when removing the arrangement off of the cylinder head. Greg


--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Hartmut Kiehn" <hartis@...> wrote:>
> From memory Greg,
>
> . Disconnect battery (always good practice)
>
> . Check the 2 hoses between manifold and intake tubes for cracks.
> Get new ones first if required .
>
> . Undo the 2 clamps , screw types are ok for installation
>
> . Disconnect 2 yellow plugs on injectors
>
> . Disconnect 2 fuel supply hoses
>
> . Undo 2 M8 bolts holding arrangement to cyl head
>
> . Take out assembly
>
>
>
> You might have to replace the gasket between cylinder head and intake
> assembly.
>
> Good luck , hope this helps
>
> H.
>
>
>
> From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Greg
> Sent: Tuesday, 29 November 2011 7:59 AM
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Prestige AC system
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks Hartmut
>
> Can you explain the sequence for removing the "air intake arrangement"?
> How much has to come off?
>
> Does it involve the injection area or can this be left insitu.
>
> If I damage the clip when removing can this be replaced by a screw type hose
> clamp?
>
> Regards Greg
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com> , "Hartmut Kiehn"
> <hartis@> wrote:
> >
> > Ken, Greg, I wrote yesterday about this, but my computer didn't feel like
> > transmitting it for me so here we go ...a bright new day.
> >
> > The bracket I sourced from BenT , I had it bead blasted and the steel bits
> I
> > cleaned and painted them with POR 15. I tried to install the thing but
> gave
> > up on that forward bolt. Decided to take out the air intake arrangement
> and
> > thoroughly cleaned everything. The threads M10 I think they are, I cleaned
> > by running a tap through them, after installing the bracket I reinstalled
> > the air intake and used the original squeeze clamps , as they were taken
> off
> > with care. Hope this helps. Hartmut
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com>
> > [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Ken Garratt
> > Sent: Monday, 28 November 2011 10:56 PM
> > To: _T3_Australia forum Syncro
> > Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Prestige AC system
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Greg,
> >
> > I believe Les and Hartmut more recently have installed this AC compressor
> > bracket I see now you are asking about. Perhaps either or both have some
> > knowledge of how to install this particular bolt. Les and/or Hartmut,
> chime
> > in please?
> >
> > Ken
> >
> > _____
> >
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com>
> > From: greg_navarro95@
> > Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 08:57:44 +0000
> > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Prestige AC system
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks Ken, The bolt for the bracket has a round head and allen key thingy
> > in the head. It is actually too long to fit under the pipe in question and
> > wants to go in on an angle. The VW bracket requires that it couldnt be
> much
> > shorter or it wouldnt have any thread after it goes through the bracket. I
> > take it the bolt you have used is a standard hex head bolt. So your method
> > doesnt look like it will fit for me or am I looking at this wrong. Greg
> >
> > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com> , Ken Garratt <unclekenz@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Greg,
> > > Yes I've just refitted the said AC bracket ... it's one of my favourite
> > things to do. HA!
> > > Wire brush and lube the bolt threads in question beforehand, if
> possible,
> > pre clean and lube the thread in the boss as well. I know, it's difficult.
> > > Get up INTO the engine bay, straddle the engine, head toward drivers
> side.
> > Now this will take some dexterity, but put your left hand under the
> > frontside air intake pipes and right hand under the rearside air intake
> > pipes. Flying blind, manipulate the bolt into position and get the bolt
> > started on the thread. Handscrew the bolt in as far as possible. Then
> select
> > various spanners to suit the available space between the frontside air
> > intake pipe and the firewall. Figure out how to tighten it the best you
> can,
> > adapting whatever tools you have. The other three bolts can be simply
> > tightened using a 17mm socket and extension wrench. Fun times!
> > > Cheers.
> > > Ken
> > >
> > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > From: greg_navarro95@
> > > Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 01:17:35 +0000
> > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Prestige AC system
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Les and other Prestige A/C people. I am up to fitting the original VW
> > A/C bracket at the moment and having difficulty fixing the rear RH
> mounting
> > bolt because the pipe that leads into the intake air distriutor is just
> over
> > the top of the bolt hole.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Have others had this issue and is the only fix to remove the pipe
> > altogether? Greg
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In Syncroe_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Syncroe_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:Syncroe_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com> , "Les Harris"
> > <leslieharris@> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Whilst on the subject of Prestige, I would remind anyone who has one
> > that
> > >
> > > > the Prestige supplied mounting for the compressor is something
> normally
> > >
> > > > found only on heavy earthmoving equipment.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > It is extremely crude and has the capability of breaking off the
> > crankcase
> > >
> > > > mounting boss at the left rear of the crankcase. This had happened to
> > mine
> > >
> > > > before I bought it.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > I was alerted to the problem when I noticed that the compressor pulley
> > did
> > >
> > > > not align with the crankshaft pulley. I dismantled it to find why and
> > >
> > > > discovered that the rear left boss had been broken off.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Use the original VW mounting!
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Les
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > ,___
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
71

no

 

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Greg
Sent: Tuesday, 29 November 2011 1:41 PM
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Prestige AC system

 

 


Thankyou Hartmut

Can I upset the fuel injection system when removing the arrangement off of the cylinder head. Greg

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Hartmut Kiehn" <hartis@...> wrote:>

> From memory Greg,
>
> . Disconnect battery (always good practice)
>
> . Check the 2 hoses between manifold and intake tubes for cracks.
> Get new ones first if required .
>
> . Undo the 2 clamps , screw types are ok for installation
>
> . Disconnect 2 yellow plugs on injectors
>
> . Disconnect 2 fuel supply hoses
>
> . Undo 2 M8 bolts holding arrangement to cyl head
>
> . Take out assembly
>
>
>
> You might have to replace the gasket between cylinder head and intake
> assembly.
>
> Good luck , hope this helps
>
> H.
>
>
>
> From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Greg
> Sent: Tuesday, 29 November 2011 7:59 AM
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Prestige AC system
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks Hartmut
>
> Can you explain the sequence for removing the "air intake arrangement"?
> How much has to come off?
>
> Does it involve the injection area or can this be left insitu.
>
> If I damage the clip when removing can this be replaced by a screw type hose
> clamp?
>
> Regards Greg
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com> , "Hartmut Kiehn"
> <hartis@> wrote:
> >
> > Ken, Greg, I wrote yesterday about this, but my computer didn't feel like
> > transmitting it for me so here we go ...a bright new day.
> >
> > The bracket I sourced from BenT , I had it bead blasted and the steel bits
> I
> > cleaned and painted them with POR 15. I tried to install the thing but
> gave
> > up on that forward bolt. Decided to take out the air intake arrangement
> and
> > thoroughly cleaned everything. The threads M10 I think they are, I cleaned
> > by running a tap through them, after installing the bracket I reinstalled
> > the air intake and used the original squeeze clamps , as they were taken
> off
> > with care. Hope this helps. Hartmut
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com>
> > [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Ken Garratt
> > Sent: Monday, 28 November 2011 10:56 PM
> > To: _T3_Australia forum Syncro
> > Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Prestige AC system
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Greg,
> >
> > I believe Les and Hartmut more recently have installed this AC compressor
> > bracket I see now you are asking about. Perhaps either or both have some
> > knowledge of how to install this particular bolt. Les and/or Hartmut,
> chime
> > in please?
> >
> > Ken
> >
> > _____
> >
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com>
> > From: greg_navarro95@
> > Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 08:57:44 +0000
> > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Prestige AC system
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks Ken, The bolt for the bracket has a round head and allen key thingy
> > in the head. It is actually too long to fit under the pipe in question and
> > wants to go in on an angle. The VW bracket requires that it couldnt be
> much
> > shorter or it wouldnt have any thread after it goes through the bracket. I
> > take it the bolt you have used is a standard hex head bolt. So your method
> > doesnt look like it will fit for me or am I looking at this wrong. Greg
> >
> > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com> , Ken Garratt <unclekenz@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Greg,
> > > Yes I've just refitted the said AC bracket ... it's one of my favourite
> > things to do. HA!
> > > Wire brush and lube the bolt threads in question beforehand, if
> possible,
> > pre clean and lube the thread in the boss as well. I know, it's difficult.
> > > Get up INTO the engine bay, straddle the engine, head toward drivers
> side.
> > Now this will take some dexterity, but put your left hand under the
> > frontside air intake pipes and right hand under the rearside air intake
> > pipes. Flying blind, manipulate the bolt into position and get the bolt
> > started on the thread. Handscrew the bolt in as far as possible. Then
> select
> > various spanners to suit the available space between the frontside air
> > intake pipe and the firewall. Figure out how to tighten it the best you
> can,
> > adapting whatever tools you have. The other three bolts can be simply
> > tightened using a 17mm socket and extension wrench. Fun times!
> > > Cheers.
> > > Ken
> > >
> > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > From: greg_navarro95@
> > > Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 01:17:35 +0000
> > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Prestige AC system
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Les and other Prestige A/C people. I am up to fitting the original VW
> > A/C bracket at the moment and having difficulty fixing the rear RH
> mounting
> > bolt because the pipe that leads into the intake air distriutor is just
> over
> > the top of the bolt hole.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Have others had this issue and is the only fix to remove the pipe
> > altogether? Greg
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In Syncroe_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Syncroe_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:Syncroe_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com> , "Les Harris"
> > <leslieharris@> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Whilst on the subject of Prestige, I would remind anyone who has one
> > that
> > >
> > > > the Prestige supplied mounting for the compressor is something
> normally
> > >
> > > > found only on heavy earthmoving equipment.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > It is extremely crude and has the capability of breaking off the
> > crankcase
> > >
> > > > mounting boss at the left rear of the crankcase. This had happened to
> > mine
> > >
> > > > before I bought it.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > I was alerted to the problem when I noticed that the compressor pulley
> > did
> > >
> > > > not align with the crankshaft pulley. I dismantled it to find why and
> > >
> > > > discovered that the rear left boss had been broken off.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Use the original VW mounting!
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Les
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > ,___
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

72
Thanks Hartmut Greg


--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Hartmut Kiehn" <hartis@...> wrote:
>
> no
>
>
>
> From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Greg
> Sent: Tuesday, 29 November 2011 1:41 PM
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Prestige AC system
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Thankyou Hartmut
>
> Can I upset the fuel injection system when removing the arrangement off of
> the cylinder head. Greg
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com> , "Hartmut Kiehn"
> <hartis@> wrote:>
> > From memory Greg,
> >
> > . Disconnect battery (always good practice)
> >
> > . Check the 2 hoses between manifold and intake tubes for cracks.
> > Get new ones first if required .
> >
> > . Undo the 2 clamps , screw types are ok for installation
> >
> > . Disconnect 2 yellow plugs on injectors
> >
> > . Disconnect 2 fuel supply hoses
> >
> > . Undo 2 M8 bolts holding arrangement to cyl head
> >
> > . Take out assembly
> >
> >
> >
> > You might have to replace the gasket between cylinder head and intake
> > assembly.
> >
> > Good luck , hope this helps
> >
> > H.
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com>
> > [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Greg
> > Sent: Tuesday, 29 November 2011 7:59 AM
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Prestige AC system
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks Hartmut
> >
> > Can you explain the sequence for removing the "air intake arrangement"?
> > How much has to come off?
> >
> > Does it involve the injection area or can this be left insitu.
> >
> > If I damage the clip when removing can this be replaced by a screw type
> hose
> > clamp?
> >
> > Regards Greg
> >
> > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com> , "Hartmut Kiehn"
> > <hartis@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Ken, Greg, I wrote yesterday about this, but my computer didn't feel
> like
> > > transmitting it for me so here we go ...a bright new day.
> > >
> > > The bracket I sourced from BenT , I had it bead blasted and the steel
> bits
> > I
> > > cleaned and painted them with POR 15. I tried to install the thing but
> > gave
> > > up on that forward bolt. Decided to take out the air intake arrangement
> > and
> > > thoroughly cleaned everything. The threads M10 I think they are, I
> cleaned
> > > by running a tap through them, after installing the bracket I
> reinstalled
> > > the air intake and used the original squeeze clamps , as they were taken
> > off
> > > with care. Hope this helps. Hartmut
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Ken Garratt
> > > Sent: Monday, 28 November 2011 10:56 PM
> > > To: _T3_Australia forum Syncro
> > > Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Prestige AC system
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Greg,
> > >
> > > I believe Les and Hartmut more recently have installed this AC
> compressor
> > > bracket I see now you are asking about. Perhaps either or both have some
> > > knowledge of how to install this particular bolt. Les and/or Hartmut,
> > chime
> > > in please?
> > >
> > > Ken
> > >
> > > _____
> > >
> > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > From: greg_navarro95@
> > > Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 08:57:44 +0000
> > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Prestige AC system
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks Ken, The bolt for the bracket has a round head and allen key
> thingy
> > > in the head. It is actually too long to fit under the pipe in question
> and
> > > wants to go in on an angle. The VW bracket requires that it couldnt be
> > much
> > > shorter or it wouldnt have any thread after it goes through the bracket.
> I
> > > take it the bolt you have used is a standard hex head bolt. So your
> method
> > > doesnt look like it will fit for me or am I looking at this wrong. Greg
> > >
> > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com> , Ken Garratt
> <unclekenz@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Greg,
> > > > Yes I've just refitted the said AC bracket ... it's one of my
> favourite
> > > things to do. HA!
> > > > Wire brush and lube the bolt threads in question beforehand, if
> > possible,
> > > pre clean and lube the thread in the boss as well. I know, it's
> difficult.
> > > > Get up INTO the engine bay, straddle the engine, head toward drivers
> > side.
> > > Now this will take some dexterity, but put your left hand under the
> > > frontside air intake pipes and right hand under the rearside air intake
> > > pipes. Flying blind, manipulate the bolt into position and get the bolt
> > > started on the thread. Handscrew the bolt in as far as possible. Then
> > select
> > > various spanners to suit the available space between the frontside air
> > > intake pipe and the firewall. Figure out how to tighten it the best you
> > can,
> > > adapting whatever tools you have. The other three bolts can be simply
> > > tightened using a 17mm socket and extension wrench. Fun times!
> > > > Cheers.
> > > > Ken
> > > >
> > > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > From: greg_navarro95@
> > > > Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 01:17:35 +0000
> > > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Prestige AC system
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Les and other Prestige A/C people. I am up to fitting the original
> VW
> > > A/C bracket at the moment and having difficulty fixing the rear RH
> > mounting
> > > bolt because the pipe that leads into the intake air distriutor is just
> > over
> > > the top of the bolt hole.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Have others had this issue and is the only fix to remove the pipe
> > > altogether? Greg
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In Syncroe_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Syncroe_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:Syncroe_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:Syncroe_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com> , "Les Harris"
> > > <leslieharris@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Whilst on the subject of Prestige, I would remind anyone who has one
> > > that
> > > >
> > > > > the Prestige supplied mounting for the compressor is something
> > normally
> > > >
> > > > > found only on heavy earthmoving equipment.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > It is extremely crude and has the capability of breaking off the
> > > crankcase
> > > >
> > > > > mounting boss at the left rear of the crankcase. This had happened
> to
> > > mine
> > > >
> > > > > before I bought it.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I was alerted to the problem when I noticed that the compressor
> pulley
> > > did
> > > >
> > > > > not align with the crankshaft pulley. I dismantled it to find why
> and
> > > >
> > > > > discovered that the rear left boss had been broken off.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Use the original VW mounting!
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Les
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > ,___
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
73
I drove a lot of T3s when they were brand new and never had success with the Aussie a/c units. The genuine overhead ones worked fine.

Phill



> Scott Daniel - Turbovans <ScottDaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:
>
> In case people are not aware ..
> some people fit in-dash AC also, so there are frontand rear cold air
> outputs.
> the common system to use for this is the Behr system, that came on some
> Vanagons.
>
> my 85 high top T3 Adventurewagon has it in the dash ...like where the
> glove box is, which in my case is on the right side of the van's dash
> area.
> T3 Vanagon AC is generally recognized to be only so-so in serious
> ambient heatfrom what I gather.
>
> scott
> turbovans
>
> On 11/21/2012 4:20 PM, Ken Garratt wrote:
> >
> > Hi Francesca,
> > Yurik in Perth has previously reported here his success in remediating
>
> > the Prestige AC system, which has kept me interested to attempt a
> > "rebirth" on mine ever since.
> > Logic concludes the two front occupants would benefit most, with the
> > front passenger the most smug.
> > Most adults would wisely concur that for the kids in the rear, it's
> > character building!
> > Leaves me wondering though all the same, if the Prestige AC system was
>
> > all that bad, how the heck did so many buyers agree to have it fitted?
>
> > Did no one try it before they bought it?
> >
> > As a reminder, please read attached file, some past forum comments on
> > the Prestige AC system topic.
> >
> > I live in hope! Cheers.
> >
> > Ken
> >
> >
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > From: fcoles6@gmail.com
> > Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 10:16:09 +1100
> > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Idler pulley
> >
> > Hi Ken,
> >
> > Precisely nothing has been done to remediate our dodgy Prestige
> > air-con, mostly because I have understood from other people that it is
>
> > fundamentally a shonky affair. If anyone begs to differ they can
> > correct me, though. Living in these southern climes and not utilising
> > the Syncro as a daily driver, we don't have quite the motivation to
> > get the air-con up and running that others might. I do feel sorry for
> > the kids in the back when it gets on the warm side, though.
> >
> > Francesca.
> >
> >
> >
> >
74
It comes down to the system, especially the evaporator, being too small for the cabin size. If you don't have kids put an air curtain in and the system will cope fine. If you have a tin top go overhead a/c, the evaporator is much bigger and the cold air will rain down on your head. If you have kids and a pop top your pushing sh#$ up hill. I will try splicing another evaporator into the system at some stage (mounted under rear seat). Will it work - dunno. Greg E

From: "plander@optusnet.com.au" <plander@optusnet.com.au>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 22 November 2012 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] RE: Prestige AC system
 
I drove a lot of T3s when they were brand new and never had success with the Aussie a/c units. The genuine overhead ones worked fine.

Phill

> Scott Daniel - Turbovans <mailto:ScottDaniel%40turbovans.com> wrote:
>
> In case people are not aware ..
> some people fit in-dash AC also, so there are frontand rear cold air
> outputs.
> the common system to use for this is the Behr system, that came on some
> Vanagons.
>
> my 85 high top T3 Adventurewagon has it in the dash ...like where the
> glove box is, which in my case is on the right side of the van's dash
> area.
> T3 Vanagon AC is generally recognized to be only so-so in serious
> ambient heatfrom what I gather.
>
> scott
> turbovans
>
> On 11/21/2012 4:20 PM, Ken Garratt wrote:
> >
> > Hi Francesca,
> > Yurik in Perth has previously reported here his success in remediating
>
> > the Prestige AC system, which has kept me interested to attempt a
> > "rebirth" on mine ever since.
> > Logic concludes the two front occupants would benefit most, with the
> > front passenger the most smug.
> > Most adults would wisely concur that for the kids in the rear, it's
> > character building!
> > Leaves me wondering though all the same, if the Prestige AC system was
>
> > all that bad, how the heck did so many buyers agree to have it fitted?
>
> > Did no one try it before they bought it?
> >
> > As a reminder, please read attached file, some past forum comments on
> > the Prestige AC system topic.
> >
> > I live in hope! Cheers.
> >
> > Ken
> >
> >
> >
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> > To: mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com
> > From: mailto:fcoles6%40gmail.com
> > Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 10:16:09 +1100
> > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Idler pulley
> >
> > Hi Ken,
> >
> > Precisely nothing has been done to remediate our dodgy Prestige
> > air-con, mostly because I have understood from other people that it is
>
> > fundamentally a shonky affair. If anyone begs to differ they can
> > correct me, though. Living in these southern climes and not utilising
> > the Syncro as a daily driver, we don't have quite the motivation to
> > get the air-con up and running that others might. I do feel sorry for
> > the kids in the back when it gets on the warm side, though.
> >
> > Francesca.
> >
> >
> >
> >
75
What about the Westy system?



> greg esposito <gregespo73@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> It comes down to the system, especially the evaporator,���������being too small
> for the cabin size. If you don't have kids put an air curtain in and the
> system will cope fine. If you have a tin top go overhead a/c, the
> evaporator is much bigger and the cold air will rain down on your head.
> If you have kids and a pop top your pushing sh#$ up hill. I will try
> splicing another evaporator into the system at some stage (mounted under
> rear seat). Will it work - dunno. Greg E
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: "plander@optusnet.com.au" <plander@optusnet.com.au>
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, 22 November 2012 12:58 PM
> Subject: Re: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] RE: Prestige AC system
>
>
> ���������
>
> I drove a lot of T3s when they were brand new and never had success with
> the Aussie a/c units. The genuine overhead ones worked fine.
>
> Phill
>
> > Scott Daniel - Turbovans <mailto:ScottDaniel%40turbovans.com> wrote:
> >
> > In case people are not aware ..
> > some people fit in-dash AC also, so there are frontand rear cold air
> > outputs.
> > the common system to use for this is the Behr system, that came on
> some
> > Vanagons.
> >
> > my 85 high top T3 Adventurewagon has it in the dash ...like where the
> > glove box is, which in my case is on the right side of the van's dash
> > area.
> > T3 Vanagon AC is generally recognized to be only so-so in serious
> > ambient heatfrom what I gather.
> >
> > scott
> > turbovans
> >
> > On 11/21/2012 4:20 PM, Ken Garratt wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Francesca,
> > > Yurik in Perth has previously reported here his success in
> remediating
> >
> > > the Prestige AC system, which has kept me interested to attempt a
> > > "rebirth" on mine ever since.
> > > Logic concludes the two front occupants would benefit most, with the
>
> > > front passenger the most smug.
> > > Most adults would wisely concur that for the kids in the rear, it's
> > > character building!
> > > Leaves me wondering though all the same, if the Prestige AC system
> was
> >
> > > all that bad, how the heck did so many buyers agree to have it
> fitted?
> >
> > > Did no one try it before they bought it?
> > >
> > > As a reminder, please read attached file, some past forum comments
> on
> > > the Prestige AC system topic.
> > >
> > > I live in hope! Cheers.
> > >
> > > Ken
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------
> > > To: mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com
> > > From: mailto:fcoles6%40gmail.com
> > > Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 10:16:09 +1100
> > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Idler pulley
> > >
> > > Hi Ken,
> > >
> > > Precisely nothing has been done to remediate our dodgy Prestige
> > > air-con, mostly because I have understood from other people that it
> is
> >
> > > fundamentally a shonky affair. If anyone begs to differ they can
> > > correct me, though. Living in these southern climes and not
> utilising
> > > the Syncro as a daily driver, we don't have quite the motivation to
> > > get the air-con up and running that others might. I do feel sorry
> for
> > > the kids in the back when it gets on the warm side, though.
> > >
> > > Francesca.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
76
As far as Australia goes Phill, it is the same catagory as my illusive jump seats and rocking horse _ _ _ _!

From: "plander@optusnet.com.au" <plander@optusnet.com.au>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 22 November 2012 2:36 PM
Subject: Re: Re: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] RE: Prestige AC system

What about the Westy system?



> greg esposito <gregespo73@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> It comes down to the system, especially the evaporator, being too small
> for the cabin size. If you don't have kids put an air curtain in and the
> system will cope fine. If you have a tin top go overhead a/c, the
> evaporator is much bigger and the cold air will rain down on your head.
> If you have kids and a pop top your pushing sh#$ up hill. I will try
> splicing another evaporator into the system at some stage (mounted under
> rear seat). Will it work - dunno. Greg E
>
> 
>
> ________________________________
>  From:
"plander@optusnet.com.au" <plander@optusnet.com.au>
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, 22 November 2012 12:58 PM
> Subject: Re: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] RE: Prestige AC system
> 
> 
>   
> 
> I drove a lot of T3s when they were brand new and never had success with
> the Aussie a/c units. The genuine overhead ones worked fine.
>
> Phill
>
> > Scott Daniel - Turbovans <mailto:ScottDaniel%40turbovans.com> wrote:
> >
> > In case people are not aware ..
> > some people fit in-dash AC also, so
there are frontand rear cold air
> > outputs.
> > the common system to use for this is the Behr system, that came on
> some
> > Vanagons.
> >
> > my 85 high top T3 Adventurewagon has it in the dash ...like where the
> > glove box is, which in my case is on the right side of the van's dash
> > area.
> > T3 Vanagon AC is generally recognized to be only so-so in serious
> > ambient heatfrom what I gather.
> >
> > scott
> > turbovans
> >
> > On 11/21/2012 4:20 PM, Ken Garratt wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Francesca,
> > > Yurik in Perth has previously reported here his success in
> remediating
> >
> > > the Prestige AC system, which has kept me interested to attempt a
> > > "rebirth" on mine ever since.
> > > Logic concludes the two
front occupants would benefit most, with the
>
> > > front passenger the most smug.
> > > Most adults would wisely concur that for the kids in the rear, it's
> > > character building!
> > > Leaves me wondering though all the same, if the Prestige AC system
> was
> >
> > > all that bad, how the heck did so many buyers agree to have it
> fitted?
> >
> > > Did no one try it before they bought it?
> > >
> > > As a reminder, please read attached file, some past forum comments
> on
> > > the Prestige AC system topic.
> > >
> > > I live in hope!  Cheers.
> > >
> > > Ken
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------
> > > To:
mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com
> > > From: mailto:fcoles6%40gmail.com
> > > Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 10:16:09 +1100
> > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Idler pulley
> > >
> > > Hi Ken,
> > >
> > > Precisely nothing has been done to remediate our dodgy Prestige
> > > air-con, mostly because I have understood from other people that it
> is
> >
> > > fundamentally a shonky affair. If anyone begs to differ they can
> > > correct me, though. Living in these southern climes and not
> utilising
> > > the Syncro as a daily driver, we don't have quite the motivation to
> > > get the air-con up and running that others might. I do feel sorry
> for
> > > the kids in the back when it gets on the warm side, though.
> > >
> > >
Francesca.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>   
>



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77
Also westys are essentially sunroof roof paneled which means they still have the rear half of the roof intact to bolt an evaporator under. All Aussie conversions I have seen cut back to about 200mm from the hatch. Greg E

From: greg esposito <gregespo73@yahoo.com>
To: "Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com" <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, 22 November 2012 3:39 PM
Subject: Re: Re: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] RE: Prestige AC system
 
As far as Australia goes Phill, it is the same catagory as my illusive jump seats and rocking horse _ _ _ _!

From: "plander@optusnet.com.au" <plander@optusnet.com.au>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 22 November 2012 2:36 PM
Subject: Re: Re: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] RE: Prestige AC system
What about the Westy system? > greg esposito <gregespo73@yahoo.com> wrote: > > It comes down to the system, especially the evaporator, being too small > for the cabin size. If you don't have kids put an air curtain in and the > system will cope fine. If you have a tin top go overhead a/c, the > evaporator is much bigger and the cold air will rain down on your head. > If you have kids and a pop top your pushing sh#$ up hill. I will try > splicing another evaporator into the system at some stage (mounted under > rear seat). Will it work - dunno. Greg E > >  > > ________________________________ >  From: "plander@optusnet.com.au" <plander@optusnet.com.au> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, 22 November 2012 12:58 PM > Subject: Re: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] RE: Prestige AC system >  >  >    >  > I drove a lot of T3s when they were brand new and never had success with > the Aussie a/c units. The genuine overhead ones worked fine. > > Phill > > > Scott Daniel - Turbovans <mailto:ScottDaniel%40turbovans.com> wrote: > > > > In case people are not aware .. > > some people fit in-dash AC also, so there are frontand rear cold air > > outputs. > > the common system to use for this is the Behr system, that came on > some > > Vanagons. > > > > my 85 high top T3 Adventurewagon has it in the dash ...like where the > > glove box is, which in my case is on the right side of the van's dash > > area. > > T3 Vanagon AC is generally recognized to be only so-so in serious > > ambient heatfrom what I gather. > > > > scott > > turbovans > > > > On 11/21/2012 4:20 PM, Ken Garratt wrote: > > > > > > Hi Francesca, > > > Yurik in Perth has previously reported here his success in > remediating > > > > > the Prestige AC system, which has kept me interested to attempt a > > > "rebirth" on mine ever since. > > > Logic concludes the two front occupants would benefit most, with the > > > > front passenger the most smug. > > > Most adults would wisely concur that for the kids in the rear, it's > > > character building! > > > Leaves me wondering though all the same, if the Prestige AC system > was > > > > > all that bad, how the heck did so many buyers agree to have it > fitted? > > > > > Did no one try it before they bought it? > > > > > > As a reminder, please read attached file, some past forum comments > on > > > the Prestige AC system topic. > > > > > > I live in hope!  Cheers. > > > > > > Ken > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > To: mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com > > > From: mailto:fcoles6%40gmail.com > > > Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 10:16:09 +1100 > > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Idler pulley > > > > > > Hi Ken, > > > > > > Precisely nothing has been done to remediate our dodgy Prestige > > > air-con, mostly because I have understood from other people that it > is > > > > > fundamentally a shonky affair. If anyone begs to differ they can > > > correct me, though. Living in these southern climes and not > utilising > > > the Syncro as a daily driver, we don't have quite the motivation to > > > get the air-con up and running that others might. I do feel sorry > for > > > the kids in the back when it gets on the warm side, though. > > > >
> >
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78
  When I bought my Syncro the previous owner threw in a Prestige system that he bought from Beetle Spares. They had removed it from a 2WD caravelle. He never got around to fitting it, and neither have I.

  As well as the standard condensor that fits under the dashboard, it has another huge condensor that fits neatly under the floor between the chassis rails on the driver's side, with the plumbing and outlet which appears to fit under the rear passenger seat.

  It includes a large electric fan, separate controls for the rear, and all the plumbing and bracketry.

  It fits neatly under the floor without reducing ground clearance.

  The rest of the system, including the compressor, is standard Prestige.

  It looks like it should work well, because of the massive condensor, but I never installed it. I rarely carry passengers in the back.

  It's up for grabs if anyone wants it, for a reasonable price, to get it out of the shed.

  As for enlarging the dashboard outlets, I would give that some serious thought.

  If it was that easy, it would have been done by the manufacturer.

Range Rover vents, for example, are smaller near the condensor [passenger's side] and get larger toward the extremities. This is to force cool air across the whole width of the dashboard. Otherwise the passenger get's all the benefit, and the driver none.

                                                                                     Roger [Beetle].

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With the Prestige system I found it to be a great improvement to remove that foam screen from the evaporator (that being the the heat exchanger on top of the dash) . I did not know what that foam
blocking the airflow, was for, but BenT had the answer. He told me it has been installed to prevent  snow from coming out. Now who would object to that ???? Anyway, the system in my Trakka works
almost perfectly, no complains here. Btw, I still had some R12 refrigerant which I am using in the system. I also replaced that Prestige contraption of a bracket holding the compressor (7kg) and replaced it with an original one, also from BenT $ 100.-- , worth every dime.

Hart







On 22/11/2012, at 6:40 PM, Gullyraker@aol.com wrote:

 

  When I bought my Syncro the previous owner threw in a Prestige system that he bought from Beetle Spares. They had removed it from a 2WD caravelle. He never got around to fitting it, and neither have I.

  As well as the standard condensor that fits under the dashboard, it has another huge condensor that fits neatly under the floor between the chassis rails on the driver's side, with the plumbing and outlet which appears to fit under the rear passenger seat.

  It includes a large electric fan, separate controls for the rear, and all the plumbing and bracketry.

  It fits neatly under the floor without reducing ground clearance.

  The rest of the system, including the compressor, is standard Prestige.

  It looks like it should work well, because of the massive condensor, but I never installed it. I rarely carry passengers in the back.

  It's up for grabs if anyone wants it, for a reasonable price, to get it out of the shed.

  As for enlarging the dashboard outlets, I would give that some serious thought.

  If it was that easy, it would have been done by the manufacturer.

Range Rover vents, for example, are smaller near the condensor [passenger's side] and get larger toward the extremities. This is to force cool air across the whole width of the dashboard. Otherwise the passenger get's all the benefit, and the driver none.

                                                                                     Roger [Beetle].


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Hi Hartmut,

Sounds interesting ... worth checking out.

What needs to be removed to get a look at the foam screen?

Cheers.
Ken

To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: hartis@live.com.au
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 19:47:01 +1100
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] RE: Prestige AC system

 

With the Prestige system I found it to be a great improvement to remove that foam screen from the evaporator (that being the the heat exchanger on top of the dash) . I did not know what that foam
blocking the airflow, was for, but BenT had the answer. He told me it has been installed to prevent  snow from coming out. Now who would object to that ???? Anyway, the system in my Trakka works
almost perfectly, no complains here. Btw, I still had some R12 refrigerant which I am using in the system. I also replaced that Prestige contraption of a bracket holding the compressor (7kg) and replaced it with an original one, also from BenT $ 100.-- , worth every dime.

Hart







On 22/11/2012, at 6:40 PM, Gullyraker@aol.com wrote:

 
  When I bought my Syncro the previous owner threw in a Prestige system that he bought from Beetle Spares. They had removed it from a 2WD caravelle. He never got around to fitting it, and neither have I.

  As well as the standard condensor that fits under the dashboard, it has another huge condensor that fits neatly under the floor between the chassis rails on the driver's side, with the plumbing and outlet which appears to fit under the rear passenger seat.

  It includes a large electric fan, separate controls for the rear, and all the plumbing and bracketry.

  It fits neatly under the floor without reducing ground clearance.

  The rest of the system, including the compressor, is standard Prestige.

  It looks like it should work well, because of the massive condensor, but I never installed it. I rarely carry passengers in the back.

  It's up for grabs if anyone wants it, for a reasonable price, to get it out of the shed.

  As for enlarging the dashboard outlets, I would give that some serious thought.

  If it was that easy, it would have been done by the manufacturer.

Range Rover vents, for example, are smaller near the condensor [passenger's side] and get larger toward the extremities. This is to force cool air across the whole width of the dashboard. Otherwise the passenger get's all the benefit, and the driver none.

                                                                                     Roger [Beetle].