re: German decouplers from USA

41
Les Harris wrote:

Phill,

Now we are getting somewhere! 

We now have a second piece of confirmation that such an option did exist.  Both pieces, however, are internal VAG documents so we still don’t have a link to the prospective customer – something that tells the prospective customer that the option is available.  The only way that a prospective customer can know this is through a document in the public domain, like a sales brochure.

Les

 

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of plander@optusnet.com.au
Sent: 18 December 2009 08:01
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: German decouplers from USA

 

 


  Les


For what it's worth when I bought my Syncro new in Aug 1989 there were 3 options available 1 Power Stearing    2 Rear Diff Lock  3 Front Diff Lock     I opted for the first two but there was no mention of any decoupler

John


42
They do not list all of the options in the brochures Les.



> Les Harris <leslieharris@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>
> Phill,
>
> They bear VAG Publication numbers and are printed in Germany. The full
> attributions are as follows:
>
> * 765.1190.26.18 . Printed in Germany . Specifications subject to
> change without notice . 8/87
> * 965/1191.26.26 . Printed in Germany . Specifications subject to
> change without notice . 8/89
>
> The 965/ publication also carries the following:
>
> * Ateco Industries Pty. Limited, Australian Importer and Distributor,
> 4 Harvey Road, Marayong, NSW 2148, Tel: (02) 831 2600, Telex: AA 25265,
> Fax:
> (02) 831 1893.
>
> In the 765/ publication, I cannot find anything that indicates that it
> is
> Australia only, particularly when all the vehicles illustrated are left
> hand
> drive. The 965/ publication shows mainly right hand drive vehicles.
> From
> the point of view of trying to unravel the disengageable 4WD option
> puzzle,
> I regard these as official VAG publications.
>
> A hand at the moment, I have three more publications, one of which is a
> VAG
> publication (865/1190.26.18 Printed in Germany Subject to change Issue:
> August '988) and the other two do not carry a VAG publication number.
> In
> terms of looking for definitive information, I would not regard the
> latter
> two as being reliable in terms of official VAG information.
>
> I wait with interest to see what Theo can add by way of official
> publication
> number of the book he was quoting.
>
> Les
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> plander@optusnet.com.au
> Sent: 17 December 2009 21:02
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: German decouplers from USA
>
>
>
>
> > Phill believes that this was a secret option that never appeared in
> any
> > Volkswagen sales brochures
>
> Sorry Les, that should read Australian sales brochures.
43
I think what John said about the options when he bought his syncro back in 89 new,is the best indication that selectable 4wd was available around the world,but not here.Someone would of bought it if it was available.
My bus has rear diff lock,P/S,air etc.It is a Trakka.It does have the panel in the dash for both lockers and 4wd shift element.It was built in 89.Surely when the first owners of these very unique vehicles who spent 50 000 + sometimes, would of bought just one more option if it was available.
If it was an option someone would have one.
44
> bencroft96 <bencroft96@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I think what John said about the options when he bought his syncro back
> in 89 new,is the best indication that selectable 4wd was available
> around the world,but not here.Someone would of bought it if it was
> available.
> My bus has rear diff lock,P/S,air etc.It is a Trakka.It does have the
> panel in the dash for both lockers and 4wd shift element.It was built in
> 89.Surely when the first owners of these very unique vehicles who spent
> 50 000 + sometimes, would of bought just one more option if it was
> available.
> If it was an option someone would have one.

I doubt if anyone in Australia new about them being available. Now the big thing about the syncro was the automatic operation of the VC. That was the selling point. If you said that they could have a selectable 4WD they would say "why?"
45
haha .... in my short time with the syncro and reading all the dramas that daily unfold with VC issues worldwide .... I would have said .... why not!
Ken
 
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: plander@optusnet.com.au
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 20:31:51 +1100
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] options

 


> bencroft96 <bencroft96@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
> I think what John said about the options when he bought his syncro back
> in 89 new,is the best indication that selectable 4wd was available
> around the world,but not here.Someone would of bought it if it was
> available.
> My bus has rear diff lock,P/S,air etc.It is a Trakka.It does have the
> panel in the dash for both lockers and 4wd shift element.It was built in
> 89.Surely when the first owners of these very unique vehicles who spent
> 50 000 + sometimes, would of bought just one more option if it was
> available.
> If it was an option someone would have one.

I doubt if anyone in Australia new about them being available. Now the big thing about the syncro was the automatic operation of the VC. That was the selling point. If you said that they could have a selectable 4WD they would say "why?"


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46
There were other unadvertised options available and delivered in Australia.

Rear spare wheel carrier.

Factory air conditioning.

I could not afford either of these at the time.

Phill



> plander@optusnet.com.au wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > bencroft96 <bencroft96@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > I think what John said about the options when he bought his syncro
> back
> > in 89 new,is the best indication that selectable 4wd was available
> > around the world,but not here.Someone would of bought it if it was
> > available.
> > My bus has rear diff lock,P/S,air etc.It is a Trakka.It does have the
> > panel in the dash for both lockers and 4wd shift element.It was built
> in
> > 89.Surely when the first owners of these very unique vehicles who
> spent
> > 50 000 + sometimes, would of bought just one more option if it was
> > available.
> > If it was an option someone would have one.
>
> I doubt if anyone in Australia new about them being available. Now the
> big thing about the syncro was the automatic operation of the VC. That
> was the selling point. If you said that they could have a selectable 4WD
> they would say "why?"
47
I totally agree Ken

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Ken Garratt <unclekenz@...> wrote:
>
>
> haha .... in my short time with the syncro and reading all the dramas that daily unfold with VC issues worldwide .... I would have said .... why not!
>
> Ken
>
>
>
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> From: plander@...
> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 20:31:51 +1100
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] options
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > bencroft96 <bencroft96@...> wrote:
> >
> > I think what John said about the options when he bought his syncro back
> > in 89 new,is the best indication that selectable 4wd was available
> > around the world,but not here.Someone would of bought it if it was
> > available.
> > My bus has rear diff lock,P/S,air etc.It is a Trakka.It does have the
> > panel in the dash for both lockers and 4wd shift element.It was built in
> > 89.Surely when the first owners of these very unique vehicles who spent
> > 50 000 + sometimes, would of bought just one more option if it was
> > available.
> > If it was an option someone would have one.
>
> I doubt if anyone in Australia new about them being available. Now the big thing about the syncro was the automatic operation of the VC. That was the selling point. If you said that they could have a selectable 4WD they would say "why?"
>
>
>
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> A world FIRST in property search has arrived! Check out Domain Radar NOW!
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48
The grab handle option?Are you talking about the handles on the A-pillars Phill.Was that an option???

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "bencroft96" <bencroft96@...> wrote:
>
> I totally agree Ken
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Ken Garratt <unclekenz@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > haha .... in my short time with the syncro and reading all the dramas that daily unfold with VC issues worldwide .... I would have said .... why not!
> >
> > Ken
> >
> >
> >
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > From: plander@
> > Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 20:31:51 +1100
> > Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] options
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > bencroft96 <bencroft96@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I think what John said about the options when he bought his syncro back
> > > in 89 new,is the best indication that selectable 4wd was available
> > > around the world,but not here.Someone would of bought it if it was
> > > available.
> > > My bus has rear diff lock,P/S,air etc.It is a Trakka.It does have the
> > > panel in the dash for both lockers and 4wd shift element.It was built in
> > > 89.Surely when the first owners of these very unique vehicles who spent
> > > 50 000 + sometimes, would of bought just one more option if it was
> > > available.
> > > If it was an option someone would have one.
> >
> > I doubt if anyone in Australia new about them being available. Now the big thing about the syncro was the automatic operation of the VC. That was the selling point. If you said that they could have a selectable 4WD they would say "why?"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
> > A world FIRST in property search has arrived! Check out Domain Radar NOW!
> > http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157631292/direct/01/
> >
>
49
Left was standard here, right was an option.



> bencroft96 <bencroft96@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> The grab handle option?Are you talking about the handles on the
> A-pillars Phill.Was that an option???
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "bencroft96"
> <bencroft96@...> wrote:
> >
> > I totally agree Ken
> >
> > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Ken Garratt <unclekenz@>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > haha .... in my short time with the syncro and reading all the
> dramas that daily unfold with VC issues worldwide .... I would have said
> .... why not!
> > >
> > > Ken
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > From: plander@
> > > Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 20:31:51 +1100
> > > Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] options
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > bencroft96 <bencroft96@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I think what John said about the options when he bought his syncro
> back
> > > > in 89 new,is the best indication that selectable 4wd was available
>
> > > > around the world,but not here.Someone would of bought it if it was
>
> > > > available.
> > > > My bus has rear diff lock,P/S,air etc.It is a Trakka.It does have
> the
> > > > panel in the dash for both lockers and 4wd shift element.It was
> built in
> > > > 89.Surely when the first owners of these very unique vehicles who
> spent
> > > > 50 000 + sometimes, would of bought just one more option if it was
>
> > > > available.
> > > > If it was an option someone would have one.
> > >
> > > I doubt if anyone in Australia new about them being available. Now
> the big thing about the syncro was the automatic operation of the VC.
> That was the selling point. If you said that they could have a
> selectable 4WD they would say "why?"
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _________________________________________________________________
> > > A world FIRST in property search has arrived! Check out Domain Radar
> NOW!
> > > http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157631292/direct/01/
> > >
> >
50
Great for getting into the bus but,have you ever watched your navigator reach for the handle?Quite funny on rough terrian.Lucky driver has the steering wheel to grab.Should of also had them above shoulders,or is this what you mean?

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, plander@... wrote:
>
> Left was standard here, right was an option.
>
>
>
> > bencroft96 <bencroft96@...> wrote:
> >
> > The grab handle option?Are you talking about the handles on the
> > A-pillars Phill.Was that an option???
> >
> > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "bencroft96"
> > <bencroft96@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I totally agree Ken
> > >
> > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Ken Garratt <unclekenz@>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > haha .... in my short time with the syncro and reading all the
> > dramas that daily unfold with VC issues worldwide .... I would have said
> > .... why not!
> > > >
> > > > Ken
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > > From: plander@
> > > > Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 20:31:51 +1100
> > > > Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] options
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > bencroft96 <bencroft96@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I think what John said about the options when he bought his syncro
> > back
> > > > > in 89 new,is the best indication that selectable 4wd was available
> >
> > > > > around the world,but not here.Someone would of bought it if it was
> >
> > > > > available.
> > > > > My bus has rear diff lock,P/S,air etc.It is a Trakka.It does have
> > the
> > > > > panel in the dash for both lockers and 4wd shift element.It was
> > built in
> > > > > 89.Surely when the first owners of these very unique vehicles who
> > spent
> > > > > 50 000 + sometimes, would of bought just one more option if it was
> >
> > > > > available.
> > > > > If it was an option someone would have one.
> > > >
> > > > I doubt if anyone in Australia new about them being available. Now
> > the big thing about the syncro was the automatic operation of the VC.
> > That was the selling point. If you said that they could have a
> > selectable 4WD they would say "why?"
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _________________________________________________________________
> > > > A world FIRST in property search has arrived! Check out Domain Radar
> > NOW!
> > > > http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157631292/direct/01/
> > > >
> > >
>
51
Les,
My Transporter Book is a self-help book, not an official repair manual like the Bentley. However it has the same pictures with the little framed number in the bottom right-hand corner.
There is little information on transmission. They advise that repairs should only be done by professional workshop. There is one page on the AWD System. They talk about how the VC works and then about the engageable 4WD in which the front transmission can be permanently disengaged. There is sketch of all the drive-trains which show a VC and a decoupler and explained that you can have of one or the other system.
There is a right hand-corner framed number of 34-1684.
Because of copy rights, I am reluctant to post this page in the forum.

This engageable 4WD transmission is also listed in the EDKA Illustration 41-50, thanks to Phil.

On Syncros with diff locks, I noticed on the control panel under the dash, there is a diagram of the under-carriage and wheels. The green dots for the diff-locks and a 3rd one in the middle, which is possibly for the decoupler if installed.

Perhaps the engageable 4WD was only ever available in Germany.

Cheers,
Theo
52
Ben, I see you're spoilt with P/S onboard. Make a man of you and try offroad driving without P/S like mine ... haha
A few years ago, wreckers told me the complete used P/S setup could be had for around $900. Not sure if it included the steering rack though. Then of course it would have to be installed for $$$$$$$$$$$$. I didn't bother.
Ken
 
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: bencroft96@yahoo.com
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 10:25:16 +0000
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: options

 
Great for getting into the bus but,have you ever watched your navigator reach for the handle?Quite funny on rough terrian.Lucky driver has the steering wheel to grab.Should of also had them above shoulders,or is this what you mean?

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com, plander@... wrote:
>
> Left was standard here, right was an option.
>
>
>
> > bencroft96 <bencroft96@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > The grab handle option?Are you talking about the handles on the
> > A-pillars Phill.Was that an option???
> >
> > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com, "bencroft96"
> > <bencroft96@ > wrote:
> > >
> > > I totally agree Ken
> > >
> > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com, Ken Garratt <unclekenz@>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > haha .... in my short time with the syncro and reading all the
> > dramas that daily unfold with VC issues worldwide .... I would have said
> > .... why not!
> > > >
> > > > Ken
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> > > > From: plander@
> > > > Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 20:31:51 +1100
> > > > Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] options
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > bencroft96 <bencroft96@ > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I think what John said about the options when he bought his syncro
> > back
> > > > > in 89 new,is the best indication that selectable 4wd was available
> >
> > > > > around the world,but not here.Someone would of bought it if it was
> >
> > > > > available.
> > > > > My bus has rear diff lock,P/S,air etc.It is a Trakka.It does have
> > the
> > > > > panel in the dash for both lockers and 4wd shift element.It was
> > built in
> > > > > 89.Surely when the first owners of these very unique vehicles who
> > spent
> > > > > 50 000 + sometimes, would of bought just one more option if it was
> >
> > > > > available.
> > > > > If it was an option someone would have one.
> > > >
> > > > I doubt if anyone in Australia new about them being available. Now
> > the big thing about the syncro was the automatic operation of the VC.
> > That was the selling point. If you said that they could have a
> > selectable 4WD they would say "why?"
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > > A world FIRST in property search has arrived! Check out Domain Radar
> > NOW!
> > > > http://clk.atdmt. com/NMN/go/ 157631292/ direct/01/
> > > >
> > >
>



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Ken,
 
My old man had power steering fitted to his syncro about 4 years ago as he said with age (his) the parking and tight turns in a syncro were becoming too difficult.
 
I think it cost him about $1200.00 and he says it is worth every cent.
 
I have driven his van pre-power steering with standard 14 inch factory wheels and tyres (his van has very low mileage) and it is a different vehicle with power steer.
 
I also remember the grab handle in an old Mitsubishi L300 4wd van I had prior to the syncro and its handle was placed on the dash just in front of the passenger. The boss used to hang onto that pretty tight when off-roading but it was in a great place to crack your head open in a frontal collision - luckily that never happened.
 
Go the Power Steer option Ken you'll love it even more than your de-coupler and Christmas tree shade device.
 
Cheers,
 
Skot
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 9:33 PM
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: options

 

Ben, I see you're spoilt with P/S onboard. Make a man of you and try offroad driving without P/S like mine ... haha
A few years ago, wreckers told me the complete used P/S setup could be had for around $900. Not sure if it included the steering rack though. Then of course it would have to be installed for $$$$$$$$$$$$ . I didn't bother.
Ken
 

To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
From: bencroft96@yahoo. com
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 10:25:16 +0000
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Re: options

 
Great for getting into the bus but,have you ever watched your navigator reach for the handle?Quite funny on rough terrian.Lucky driver has the steering wheel to grab.Should of also had them above shoulders,or is this what you mean?

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com, plander@... wrote:
>
> Left was standard here, right was an option.
>
>
>
> > bencroft96 <bencroft96@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > The grab handle option?Are you talking about the handles on the
> > A-pillars Phill.Was that an option???
> >
> > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com, "bencroft96"
> > <bencroft96@ > wrote:
> > >
> > > I totally agree Ken
> > >
> > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com, Ken Garratt <unclekenz@>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > haha .... in my short time with the syncro and reading all the
> > dramas that daily unfold with VC issues worldwide .... I would have said
> > .... why not!
> > > >
> > > > Ken
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> > > > From: plander@
> > > > Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 20:31:51 +1100
> > > > Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] options
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > bencroft96 <bencroft96@ > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I think what John said about the options when he bought his syncro
> > back
> > > > > in 89 new,is the best indication that selectable 4wd was available
> >
> > > > > around the world,but not here.Someone would of bought it if it was
> >
> > > > > available.
> > > > > My bus has rear diff lock,P/S,air etc.It is a Trakka.It does have
> > the
> > > > > panel in the dash for both lockers and 4wd shift element.It was
> > built in
> > > > > 89.Surely when the first owners of these very unique vehicles who
> > spent
> > > > > 50 000 + sometimes, would of bought just one more option if it was
> >
> > > > > available.
> > > > > If it was an option someone would have one.
> > > >
> > > > I doubt if anyone in Australia new about them being available. Now
> > the big thing about the syncro was the automatic operation of the VC.
> > That was the selling point. If you said that they could have a
> > selectable 4WD they would say "why?"
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
> > > > A world FIRST in property search has arrived! Check out Domain Radar
> > NOW!
> > > > http://clk.atdmt. com/NMN/go/ 157631292/ direct/01/
> > > >
> > >
>



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54
> Perhaps the engageable 4WD was only ever available in Germany.
>
> Cheers,
> Theo

If its available in Germany, it's basically available most places.
55
No thanks Ken,I will keep the options I have thanks.I like negotiating obsticles with one arm resting on the window,can of coke between legs,mobile to ear,ciggie in mouth and whilst not steering or changing gear left hand on female passengers leg.No not really I just like p/s,I have a drink holder,I dont have a mobile,I dont smoke and I am married.P/S is good though!haha.

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Ken Garratt <unclekenz@...> wrote:
>
>
> Ben, I see you're spoilt with P/S onboard. Make a man of you and try offroad driving without P/S like mine ... haha
>
> A few years ago, wreckers told me the complete used P/S setup could be had for around $900. Not sure if it included the steering rack though. Then of course it would have to be installed for $$$$$$$$$$$$. I didn't bother.
>
> Ken
>
>
>
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> From: bencroft96@...
> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 10:25:16 +0000
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: options
>
>
>
>
>
> Great for getting into the bus but,have you ever watched your navigator reach for the handle?Quite funny on rough terrian.Lucky driver has the steering wheel to grab.Should of also had them above shoulders,or is this what you mean?
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, plander@ wrote:
> >
> > Left was standard here, right was an option.
> >
> >
> >
> > > bencroft96 <bencroft96@> wrote:
> > >
> > > The grab handle option?Are you talking about the handles on the
> > > A-pillars Phill.Was that an option???
> > >
> > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "bencroft96"
> > > <bencroft96@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I totally agree Ken
> > > >
> > > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Ken Garratt <unclekenz@>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > haha .... in my short time with the syncro and reading all the
> > > dramas that daily unfold with VC issues worldwide .... I would have said
> > > .... why not!
> > > > >
> > > > > Ken
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > From: plander@
> > > > > Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 20:31:51 +1100
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] options
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > bencroft96 <bencroft96@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I think what John said about the options when he bought his syncro
> > > back
> > > > > > in 89 new,is the best indication that selectable 4wd was available
> > >
> > > > > > around the world,but not here.Someone would of bought it if it was
> > >
> > > > > > available.
> > > > > > My bus has rear diff lock,P/S,air etc.It is a Trakka.It does have
> > > the
> > > > > > panel in the dash for both lockers and 4wd shift element.It was
> > > built in
> > > > > > 89.Surely when the first owners of these very unique vehicles who
> > > spent
> > > > > > 50 000 + sometimes, would of bought just one more option if it was
> > >
> > > > > > available.
> > > > > > If it was an option someone would have one.
> > > > >
> > > > > I doubt if anyone in Australia new about them being available. Now
> > > the big thing about the syncro was the automatic operation of the VC.
> > > That was the selling point. If you said that they could have a
> > > selectable 4WD they would say "why?"
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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Scott,
Nahh .... it's the only exercise I get, don't take it away from me please!!! ..... upper arm strengthening, I need it! ..  haha
 
Besides, I've really got a head of steam up thanks to you for the post Xmas tree sales .... just raided the piggy bank.
 
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: spbconsulting@bigpond.com
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 21:44:47 +1100
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: options

 
Ken,
 
My old man had power steering fitted to his syncro about 4 years ago as he said with age (his) the parking and tight turns in a syncro were becoming too difficult.
 
I think it cost him about $1200.00 and he says it is worth every cent.
 
I have driven his van pre-power steering with standard 14 inch factory wheels and tyres (his van has very low mileage) and it is a different vehicle with power steer.
 
I also remember the grab handle in an old Mitsubishi L300 4wd van I had prior to the syncro and its handle was placed on the dash just in front of the passenger. The boss used to hang onto that pretty tight when off-roading but it was in a great place to crack your head open in a frontal collision - luckily that never happened.
 
Go the Power Steer option Ken you'll love it even more than your de-coupler and Christmas tree shade device.
 
Cheers,
 
Skot
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 9:33 PM
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Re: options

 

Ben, I see you're spoilt with P/S onboard. Make a man of you and try offroad driving without P/S like mine ... haha
A few years ago, wreckers told me the complete used P/S setup could be had for around $900. Not sure if it included the steering rack though. Then of course it would have to be installed for $$$$$$$$$$$$ . I didn't bother.
Ken
 

To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
From: bencroft96@yahoo. com
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 10:25:16 +0000
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Re: options

 
Great for getting into the bus but,have you ever watched your navigator reach for the handle?Quite funny on rough terrian.Lucky driver has the steering wheel to grab.Should of also had them above shoulders,or is this what you mean?

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com, plander@... wrote:
>
> Left was standard here, right was an option.
>
>
>
> > bencroft96 <bencroft96@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > The grab handle option?Are you talking about the handles on the
> > A-pillars Phill.Was that an option???
> >
> > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com, "bencroft96"
> > <bencroft96@ > wrote:
> > >
> > > I totally agree Ken
> > >
> > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com, Ken Garratt <unclekenz@>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > haha .... in my short time with the syncro and reading all the
> > dramas that daily unfold with VC issues worldwide .... I would have said
> > .... why not!
> > > >
> > > > Ken
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> > > > From: plander@
> > > > Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 20:31:51 +1100
> > > > Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] options
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > bencroft96 <bencroft96@ > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I think what John said about the options when he bought his syncro
> > back
> > > > > in 89 new,is the best indication that selectable 4wd was available
> >
> > > > > around the world,but not here.Someone would of bought it if it was
> >
> > > > > available.
> > > > > My bus has rear diff lock,P/S,air etc.It is a Trakka.It does have
> > the
> > > > > panel in the dash for both lockers and 4wd shift element.It was
> > built in
> > > > > 89.Surely when the first owners of these very unique vehicles who
> > spent
> > > > > 50 000 + sometimes, would of bought just one more option if it was
> >
> > > > > available.
> > > > > If it was an option someone would have one.
> > > >
> > > > I doubt if anyone in Australia new about them being available. Now
> > the big thing about the syncro was the automatic operation of the VC.
> > That was the selling point. If you said that they could have a
> > selectable 4WD they would say "why?"
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
> > > > A world FIRST in property search has arrived! Check out Domain Radar
> > NOW!
> > > > http://clk.atdmt. com/NMN/go/ 157631292/ direct/01/
> > > >
> > >
>



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Over the shoulders grab handles were available on the Tristars. They
were in any colour you wanted as long as it was black. ;-)

Said handles are spring loaded and fold up out of the way much like
the ones found in Mk2 Jetta/Bora. They also feature an individual
maplight for the one over the driver's door as well as for each and
every passenger. Plus there's a coat hook on each as well. Not like
the driver would want to hang a coat on his side.

Upon closer examination, I determined they are virtually identical to
the units found in the Audi 100/200/5000 turbo cars (aka Typ44 body).
The only difference is colour. I have only found the Audi units in
beige or gray.

Pics when I am at my laptop.


BenT



On Dec 18, 2009, at 2:25 AM, "bencroft96" <bencroft96@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Great for getting into the bus but,have you ever watched your
> navigator reach for the handle?Quite funny on rough terrian.Lucky
> driver has the steering wheel to grab.Should of also had them above
> shoulders,or is this what you mean?
>
58
Actually, that is the reason why I bought an old 71 low-light kombi. I sit in an office all day and being married with 2 kids the only other exercise I get is chasing the kids around and playing footy.
 
Hopefully there is amicable surf for me to get out there this holiday as I will being driving around in the power steering equipped syncro - hence no exercise.
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 9:50 PM
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: options

 

Scott,
Nahh .... it's the only exercise I get, don't take it away from me please!!! ..... upper arm strengthening, I need it! ..  haha
 
Besides, I've really got a head of steam up thanks to you for the post Xmas tree sales .... just raided the piggy bank.
 

To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
From: spbconsulting@ bigpond.com
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 21:44:47 +1100
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Re: options

 
Ken,
 
My old man had power steering fitted to his syncro about 4 years ago as he said with age (his) the parking and tight turns in a syncro were becoming too difficult.
 
I think it cost him about $1200.00 and he says it is worth every cent.
 
I have driven his van pre-power steering with standard 14 inch factory wheels and tyres (his van has very low mileage) and it is a different vehicle with power steer.
 
I also remember the grab handle in an old Mitsubishi L300 4wd van I had prior to the syncro and its handle was placed on the dash just in front of the passenger. The boss used to hang onto that pretty tight when off-roading but it was in a great place to crack your head open in a frontal collision - luckily that never happened.
 
Go the Power Steer option Ken you'll love it even more than your de-coupler and Christmas tree shade device.
 
Cheers,
 
Skot
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 9:33 PM
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Re: options

 

Ben, I see you're spoilt with P/S onboard. Make a man of you and try offroad driving without P/S like mine ... haha
A few years ago, wreckers told me the complete used P/S setup could be had for around $900. Not sure if it included the steering rack though. Then of course it would have to be installed for $$$$$$$$$$$$ . I didn't bother.
Ken
 

To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
From: bencroft96@yahoo. com
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 10:25:16 +0000
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Re: options

 
Great for getting into the bus but,have you ever watched your navigator reach for the handle?Quite funny on rough terrian.Lucky driver has the steering wheel to grab.Should of also had them above shoulders,or is this what you mean?

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com, plander@... wrote:
>
> Left was standard here, right was an option.
>
>
>
> > bencroft96 <bencroft96@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > The grab handle option?Are you talking about the handles on the
> > A-pillars Phill.Was that an option???
> >
> > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com, "bencroft96"
> > <bencroft96@ > wrote:
> > >
> > > I totally agree Ken
> > >
> > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com, Ken Garratt <unclekenz@>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > haha .... in my short time with the syncro and reading all the
> > dramas that daily unfold with VC issues worldwide .... I would have said
> > .... why not!
> > > >
> > > > Ken
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> > > > From: plander@
> > > > Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 20:31:51 +1100
> > > > Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] options
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > bencroft96 <bencroft96@ > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I think what John said about the options when he bought his syncro
> > back
> > > > > in 89 new,is the best indication that selectable 4wd was available
> >
> > > > > around the world,but not here.Someone would of bought it if it was
> >
> > > > > available.
> > > > > My bus has rear diff lock,P/S,air etc.It is a Trakka.It does have
> > the
> > > > > panel in the dash for both lockers and 4wd shift element.It was
> > built in
> > > > > 89.Surely when the first owners of these very unique vehicles who
> > spent
> > > > > 50 000 + sometimes, would of bought just one more option if it was
> >
> > > > > available.
> > > > > If it was an option someone would have one.
> > > >
> > > > I doubt if anyone in Australia new about them being available. Now
> > the big thing about the syncro was the automatic operation of the VC.
> > That was the selling point. If you said that they could have a
> > selectable 4WD they would say "why?"
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
> > > > A world FIRST in property search has arrived! Check out Domain Radar
> > NOW!
> > > > http://clk.atdmt. com/NMN/go/ 157631292/ direct/01/
> > > >
> > >
>



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On the subject of PS, I once again have access to NOS (New Old Stock) RHD PS racks. There is virtually no market for them in the US so the importer I selling them quite reasonably. I sent one to Andy in Ceduna and two other fellows in other parts of OZ.



BenT
Sent from my mobile device

On Dec 18, 2009, at 2:44 AM, "Mr Scott Pitcher" <spbconsulting@bigpond.com> wrote:

Ken,
 
My old man had power steering fitted to his syncro about 4 years ago as he said with age (his) the parking and tight turns in a syncro were becoming too difficult.
 
I think it cost him about $1200.00 and he says it is worth every cent.
 
I have driven his van pre-power steering with standard 14 inch factory wheels and tyres (his van has very low mileage) and it is a different vehicle with power steer.
 
I also remember the grab handle in an old Mitsubishi L300 4wd van I had prior to the syncro and its handle was placed on the dash just in front of the passenger. The boss used to hang onto that pretty tight when off-roading but it was in a great place to crack your head open in a frontal collision - luckily that never happened.
 
Go the Power Steer option Ken you'll love it even more than your de-coupler and Christmas tree shade device.
 
Cheers,
 
Skot
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 9:33 PM
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: options

 

Ben, I see you're spoilt with P/S onboard. Make a man of you and try offroad driving without P/S like mine ... haha
A few years ago, wreckers told me the complete used P/S setup could be had for around $900. Not sure if it included the steering rack though. Then of course it would have to be installed for $$$$$$$$$$$$ . I didn't bother.
Ken
 

To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
From: bencroft96@yahoo. com
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 10:25:16 +0000
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Re: options

 
Great for getting into the bus but,have you ever watched your navigator reach for the handle?Quite funny on rough terrian.Lucky driver has the steering wheel to grab.Should of also had them above shoulders,or is this what you mean?

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com, plander@... wrote:
>
> Left was standard here, right was an option.
>
>
>
> > bencroft96 <bencroft96@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > The grab handle option?Are you talking about the handles on the
> > A-pillars Phill.Was that an option???
> >
> > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com, "bencroft96"
> > <bencroft96@ > wrote:
> > >
> > > I totally agree Ken
> > >
> > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com, Ken Garratt <unclekenz@>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > haha .... in my short time with the syncro and reading all the
> > dramas that daily unfold with VC issues worldwide .... I would have said
> > .... why not!
> > > >
> > > > Ken
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> > > > From: plander@
> > > > Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 20:31:51 +1100
> > > > Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] options
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > bencroft96 <bencroft96@ > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I think what John said about the options when he bought his syncro
> > back
> > > > > in 89 new,is the best indication that selectable 4wd was available
> >
> > > > > around the world,but not here.Someone would of bought it if it was
> >
> > > > > available.
> > > > > My bus has rear diff lock,P/S,air etc.It is a Trakka.It does have
> > the
> > > > > panel in the dash for both lockers and 4wd shift element.It was
> > built in
> > > > > 89.Surely when the first owners of these very unique vehicles who
> > spent
> > > > > 50 000 + sometimes, would of bought just one more option if it was
> >
> > > > > available.
> > > > > If it was an option someone would have one.
> > > >
> > > > I doubt if anyone in Australia new about them being available. Now
> > the big thing about the syncro was the automatic operation of the VC.
> > That was the selling point. If you said that they could have a
> > selectable 4WD they would say "why?"
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
> > > > A world FIRST in property search has arrived! Check out Domain Radar
> > NOW!
> > > > http://clk.atdmt. com/NMN/go/ 157631292/ direct/01/
> > > >
> > >
>



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60
Gday BenT,
 
mmmmm ..... presently P/S isn't even on my todo priority list. I'd be curious though as to how your recipients faired with their P/S projects.

BenT, something else I'd like to ask you about please ... do the US delivered vanagons have fitted as a matter of course the extra rubber draught/weather/noise excluder strip (fitted here to caravelle models only) that is vertically fastened to the front pillar with 3 screws in the space between the front pillar and front door edge?  I've yet to see any on The Samba from parted out vanagons. Any thoughts on this?
Ken
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: syncro@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 02:55:56 -0800
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: options

 
On the subject of PS, I once again have access to NOS (New Old Stock) RHD PS racks. There is virtually no market for them in the US so the importer I selling them quite reasonably. I sent one to Andy in Ceduna and two other fellows in other parts of OZ.



BenT
Sent from my mobile device

On Dec 18, 2009, at 2:44 AM, "Mr Scott Pitcher" <spbconsulting@ bigpond.com> wrote:

Ken,
 
My old man had power steering fitted to his syncro about 4 years ago as he said with age (his) the parking and tight turns in a syncro were becoming too difficult.
 
I think it cost him about $1200.00 and he says it is worth every cent.
 
I have driven his van pre-power steering with standard 14 inch factory wheels and tyres (his van has very low mileage) and it is a different vehicle with power steer.
 
I also remember the grab handle in an old Mitsubishi L300 4wd van I had prior to the syncro and its handle was placed on the dash just in front of the passenger. The boss used to hang onto that pretty tight when off-roading but it was in a great place to crack your head open in a frontal collision - luckily that never happened.
 
Go the Power Steer option Ken you'll love it even more than your de-coupler and Christmas tree shade device.
 
Cheers,
 
Skot
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 9:33 PM
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Re: options

 

Ben, I see you're spoilt with P/S onboard. Make a man of you and try offroad driving without P/S like mine ... haha
A few years ago, wreckers told me the complete used P/S setup could be had for around $900. Not sure if it included the steering rack though. Then of course it would have to be installed for $$$$$$$$$$$$ . I didn't bother.
Ken
 

To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
From: bencroft96@yahoo. com
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 10:25:16 +0000
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Re: options

 
Great for getting into the bus but,have you ever watched your navigator reach for the handle?Quite funny on rough terrian.Lucky driver has the steering wheel to grab.Should of also had them above shoulders,or is this what you mean?

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com, plander@... wrote:
>
> Left was standard here, right was an option.
>
>
>
> > bencroft96 <bencroft96@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > The grab handle option?Are you talking about the handles on the
> > A-pillars Phill.Was that an option???
> >
> > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com, "bencroft96"
> > <bencroft96@ > wrote:
> > >
> > > I totally agree Ken
> > >
> > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com, Ken Garratt <unclekenz@>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > haha .... in my short time with the syncro and reading all the
> > dramas that daily unfold with VC issues worldwide .... I would have said
> > .... why not!
> > > >
> > > > Ken
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> > > > From: plander@
> > > > Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 20:31:51 +1100
> > > > Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] options
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > bencroft96 <bencroft96@ > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I think what John said about the options when he bought his syncro
> > back
> > > > > in 89 new,is the best indication that selectable 4wd was available
> >
> > > > > around the world,but not here.Someone would of bought it if it was
> >
> > > > > available.
> > > > > My bus has rear diff lock,P/S,air etc.It is a Trakka.It does have
> > the
> > > > > panel in the dash for both lockers and 4wd shift element.It was
> > built in
> > > > > 89.Surely when the first owners of these very unique vehicles who
> > spent
> > > > > 50 000 + sometimes, would of bought just one more option if it was
> >
> > > > > available.
> > > > > If it was an option someone would have one.
> > > >
> > > > I doubt if anyone in Australia new about them being available. Now
> > the big thing about the syncro was the automatic operation of the VC.
> > That was the selling point. If you said that they could have a
> > selectable 4WD they would say "why?"
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
> > > > A world FIRST in property search has arrived! Check out Domain Radar
> > NOW!
> > > > http://clk.atdmt. com/NMN/go/ 157631292/ direct/01/
> > > >
> > >
>



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