Roadworthy shock

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Yup, roadworthy time. Apparently 3 of the shocks are weeping and need replacing, so it seems time to upgrade to those Old Man Emu ones everyone raves about. But are they REALLY only available in Oz at hundreds of $'s more than the same shocks in the US? I rang ARB who quoted me $770 for the set of 4, while GoWesty do them for $549 (USD). I asked how its possible for GoWesty to import them, ship them, pay dity and make a mark up and do it all for so much less then the company here that makes them... ARB didnt have an answer. Hmm. Anyone found them for less this side of the Pacific?

Many thanks
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hello,
i'm new to this forum, a frenchman living in bunbury western australia.

I swaped a few years ago the shocks on my syncro, for those OME units, and i really had a doubt these shocks were ever manufactured in australia, or even were OME.
My landcruiser had some OME, you could read on them: made in australia, and OLD MAN EMU.
Not on the ones sold for the vw. The paint job was lousy, the sticker wasn't even straight, so everyone in france wondered were they came from. no answer.
Rumors are they might simply be gabriel or whatever rebadged units.
maybe this was special to the europeen market?
and they even didn't offer more travel then the original.

I wouldn't pay the price for them now, but stick to the good old boge that really did a good job.
stef





--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "nwjfletcher" <nwjfletcher@...> wrote:
>
> Yup, roadworthy time. Apparently 3 of the shocks are weeping and need replacing, so it seems time to upgrade to those Old Man Emu ones everyone raves about. But are they REALLY only available in Oz at hundreds of $'s more than the same shocks in the US? I rang ARB who quoted me $770 for the set of 4, while GoWesty do them for $549 (USD). I asked how its possible for GoWesty to import them, ship them, pay dity and make a mark up and do it all for so much less then the company here that makes them... ARB didnt have an answer. Hmm. Anyone found them for less this side of the Pacific?
>
> Many thanks
>
3
Stef,

It is fairly well known even here in the US that OME's use Monroe bodies. It's the valving and other interior parts which are OME.

Manufacturers price goods as high as the market will bear. Demand & competition will often dictate pricing as well.

I would venture to say there is a greater demand for Syncro shocks in the US than OME's home country.


BenT
Sent from my Boge N's

On Feb 11, 2011, at 3:51 PM, smarcoux@club-internet.fr wrote:

> hello,
> i'm new to this forum, a frenchman living in bunbury western australia.
>
> I swaped a few years ago the shocks on my syncro, for those OME units, and i really had a doubt these shocks were ever manufactured in australia, or even were OME.
> My landcruiser had some OME, you could read on them: made in australia, and OLD MAN EMU.
> Not on the ones sold for the vw. The paint job was lousy, the sticker wasn't even straight, so everyone in france wondered were they came from. no answer.
> Rumors are they might simply be gabriel or whatever rebadged units.
> maybe this was special to the europeen market?
> and they even didn't offer more travel then the original.
>
> I wouldn't pay the price for them now, but stick to the good old boge that really did a good job.
> stef
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "nwjfletcher" <nwjfletcher@...> wrote:
>>
>> Yup, roadworthy time. Apparently 3 of the shocks are weeping and need replacing, so it seems time to upgrade to those Old Man Emu ones everyone raves about. But are they REALLY only available in Oz at hundreds of $'s more than the same shocks in the US? I rang ARB who quoted me $770 for the set of 4, while GoWesty do them for $549 (USD). I asked how its possible for GoWesty to import them, ship them, pay dity and make a mark up and do it all for so much less then the company here that makes them... ARB didnt have an answer. Hmm. Anyone found them for less this side of the Pacific?
>>
>> Many thanks
>>
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
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Stef,
 
I have a full set of unused/uninstalled OME shocks for the syncro still on my shelf. Bought them locally from an ARB 4WD retail outlet.
 
I can't comment on what you bought. Did they happen to fall off the back of a truck in the dead of night?
 
All I know from looking at what I bought is the rears are indent stamped on the barrel ... MADE IN AUSTRALIA. They each have an OME sticker saying, amongst other things, "Built Tough In Australia".
The front shocks are indent stamped on the barrel ... MADE IN BELGIUM. The OME sticker says, amongst other things, "Built Tough For Australia". So a difference between rear and fronts.
 
So being French, you may have an opinion what quality of products are manufactured in Belgium ... and for that matter, Australia. 
 
Cheers and welcome aboard.
 
Ken
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: smarcoux@club-internet.fr
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 23:51:53 +0000
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Roadworthy shock

 
hello,
i'm new to this forum, a frenchman living in bunbury western australia.

I swaped a few years ago the shocks on my syncro, for those OME units, and i really had a doubt these shocks were ever manufactured in australia, or even were OME.
My landcruiser had some OME, you could read on them: made in australia, and OLD MAN EMU.
Not on the ones sold for the vw. The paint job was lousy, the sticker wasn't even straight, so everyone in france wondered were they came from. no answer.
Rumors are they might simply be gabriel or whatever rebadged units.
maybe this was special to the europeen market?
and they even didn't offer more travel then the original.

I wouldn't pay the price for them now, but stick to the good old boge that really did a good job.
stef

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "nwjfletcher" <nwjfletcher@...> wrote:
>
> Yup, roadworthy time. Apparently 3 of the shocks are weeping and need replacing, so it seems time to upgrade to those Old Man Emu ones everyone raves about. But are they REALLY only available in Oz at hundreds of $'s more than the same shocks in the US? I rang ARB who quoted me $770 for the set of 4, while GoWesty do them for $549 (USD). I asked how its possible for GoWesty to import them, ship them, pay dity and make a mark up and do it all for so much less then the company here that makes them... ARB didnt have an answer. Hmm. Anyone found them for less this side of the Pacific?
>
> Many thanks
>


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hello ken and group,
i don't know where those OME were coming from, but as demand was growing in france they became available for a decent price in 4wd shops.
the "build for australia" now rings a bell!
so if you had a OME and a boge or bilstein in hand, you could only shake your head at looking at those yellow units. I guess someone in europe grabbed the opportunity to make some money.

anyway they really didn't make a difference over the original ones, i even had to machine some "lenghtener" that bolted on top of them to allow the extra travel needed.

this was the french experience.
stef

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Ken Garratt <unclekenz@...> wrote:
>
>
> Stef,
>
> I have a full set of unused/uninstalled OME shocks for the syncro still on my shelf. Bought them locally from an ARB 4WD retail outlet.
>
> I can't comment on what you bought. Did they happen to fall off the back of a truck in the dead of night?
>
> All I know from looking at what I bought is the rears are indent stamped on the barrel ... MADE IN AUSTRALIA. They each have an OME sticker saying, amongst other things, "Built Tough In Australia".
> The front shocks are indent stamped on the barrel ... MADE IN BELGIUM. The OME sticker says, amongst other things, "Built Tough For Australia". So a difference between rear and fronts.
>
> So being French, you may have an opinion what quality of products are manufactured in Belgium ... and for that matter, Australia.
>
> Cheers and welcome aboard.
>
> Ken
>
>
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> From: smarcoux@...
> Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 23:51:53 +0000
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Roadworthy shock
>
>
>
>
>
>
> hello,
> i'm new to this forum, a frenchman living in bunbury western australia.
>
> I swaped a few years ago the shocks on my syncro, for those OME units, and i really had a doubt these shocks were ever manufactured in australia, or even were OME.
> My landcruiser had some OME, you could read on them: made in australia, and OLD MAN EMU.
> Not on the ones sold for the vw. The paint job was lousy, the sticker wasn't even straight, so everyone in france wondered were they came from. no answer.
> Rumors are they might simply be gabriel or whatever rebadged units.
> maybe this was special to the europeen market?
> and they even didn't offer more travel then the original.
>
> I wouldn't pay the price for them now, but stick to the good old boge that really did a good job.
> stef
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "nwjfletcher" <nwjfletcher@> wrote:
> >
> > Yup, roadworthy time. Apparently 3 of the shocks are weeping and need replacing, so it seems time to upgrade to those Old Man Emu ones everyone raves about. But are they REALLY only available in Oz at hundreds of $'s more than the same shocks in the US? I rang ARB who quoted me $770 for the set of 4, while GoWesty do them for $549 (USD). I asked how its possible for GoWesty to import them, ship them, pay dity and make a mark up and do it all for so much less then the company here that makes them... ARB didnt have an answer. Hmm. Anyone found them for less this side of the Pacific?
> >
> > Many thanks
> >
>
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BenT/Stef   ... give me Boge anytime , grew up with them, trust them. The monroe part seems to be correct, they are built in Belgium and receive their yellow in Oz.
 
Shipping backwards and forwards is BIG business these days........ Hartis
 
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: syncro@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 16:48:47 -0800
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Roadworthy shock

 
Stef,

It is fairly well known even here in the US that OME's use Monroe bodies. It's the valving and other interior parts which are OME.

Manufacturers price goods as high as the market will bear. Demand & competition will often dictate pricing as well.

I would venture to say there is a greater demand for Syncro shocks in the US than OME's home country.

BenT
Sent from my Boge N's

On Feb 11, 2011, at 3:51 PM, smarcoux@club-internet.fr wrote:

> hello,
> i'm new to this forum, a frenchman living in bunbury western australia.
>
> I swaped a few years ago the shocks on my syncro, for those OME units, and i really had a doubt these shocks were ever manufactured in australia, or even were OME.
> My landcruiser had some OME, you could read on them: made in australia, and OLD MAN EMU.
> Not on the ones sold for the vw. The paint job was lousy, the sticker wasn't even straight, so everyone in france wondered were they came from. no answer.
> Rumors are they might simply be gabriel or whatever rebadged units.
> maybe this was special to the europeen market?
> and they even didn't offer more travel then the original.
>
> I wouldn't pay the price for them now, but stick to the good old boge that really did a good job.
> stef
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "nwjfletcher" <nwjfletcher@...> wrote:
>>
>> Yup, roadworthy time. Apparently 3 of the shocks are weeping and need replacing, so it seems time to upgrade to those Old Man Emu ones everyone raves about. But are they REALLY only available in Oz at hundreds of $'s more than the same shocks in the US? I rang ARB who quoted me $770 for the set of 4, while GoWesty do them for $549 (USD). I asked how its possible for GoWesty to import them, ship them, pay dity and make a mark up and do it all for so much less then the company here that makes them... ARB didnt have an answer. Hmm. Anyone found them for less this side of the Pacific?
>>
>> Many thanks
>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

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Hart.
Are your Boge's the same as my Sachs Boge's?

On 12 February 2011 13:39, Hartmut Kiehn <hartis@live.com.au> wrote:

BenT/Stef ... give me Boge anytime , grew up with them, trust them. The monroe part seems to be correct, they are built in Belgium and receive their yellow in Oz.

Shipping backwards and forwards is BIG business these days........ Hartis

To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: syncro@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 16:48:47 -0800
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Roadworthy shock


Stef,

It is fairly well known even here in the US that OME's use Monroe bodies. It's the valving and other interior parts which are OME.

Manufacturers price goods as high as the market will bear. Demand & competition will often dictate pricing as well.

I would venture to say there is a greater demand for Syncro shocks in the US than OME's home country.

BenT
Sent from my Boge N's

On Feb 11, 2011, at 3:51 PM, smarcoux@club-internet.fr wrote:

> hello,
> i'm new to this forum, a frenchman living in bunbury western australia.
>
> I swaped a few years ago the shocks on my syncro, for those OME units, and i really had a doubt these shocks were ever manufactured in australia, or even were OME.
> My landcruiser had some OME, you could read on them: made in australia, and OLD MAN EMU.
> Not on the ones sold for the vw. The paint job was lousy, the sticker wasn't even straight, so everyone in france wondered were they came from. no answer.
> Rumors are they might simply be gabriel or whatever rebadged units.
> maybe this was special to the europeen market?
> and they even didn't offer more travel then the original.
>
> I wouldn't pay the price for them now, but stick to the good old boge that really did a good job.
> stef
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "nwjfletcher" <nwjfletcher@...> wrote:
>>
>> Yup, roadworthy time. Apparently 3 of the shocks are weeping and need replacing, so it seems time to upgrade to those Old Man Emu ones everyone raves about. But are they REALLY only available in Oz at hundreds of $'s more than the same shocks in the US? I rang ARB who quoted me $770 for the set of 4, while GoWesty do them for $549 (USD). I asked how its possible for GoWesty to import them, ship them, pay dity and make a mark up and do it all for so much less then the company here that makes them... ARB didnt have an answer. Hmm. Anyone found them for less this side of the Pacific?
>>
>> Many thanks
>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>




--
Regards

Michael

Michael Rayner East Light Photography
PO Box 144
MALLACOOTA VIC 3892

MOB: 0409 241 672
BUS: 0351169401
A/H: (03)5158 0346

Web: www.michaelraynerphotography.com.au
Email: michaelrayner@exemail.com.au


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Hans Sachs almagated with Boge, must have been in the seventies, we were gone to Safrica by then. Hartis /Hart / Hartmut ( last one too long for everyday use)
 
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: mallaner@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 13:45:53 +1100
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Roadworthy shock

 
Hart.
 Are your Boge's the same as my Sachs Boge's?

On 12 February 2011 13:39, Hartmut Kiehn <hartis@live.com.au> wrote:
 

BenT/Stef   ... give me Boge anytime , grew up with them, trust them. The monroe part seems to be correct, they are built in Belgium and receive their yellow in Oz.
 
Shipping backwards and forwards is BIG business these days........ Hartis
 

To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: syncro@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 16:48:47 -0800
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Roadworthy shock


 
Stef,

It is fairly well known even here in the US that OME's use Monroe bodies. It's the valving and other interior parts which are OME.

Manufacturers price goods as high as the market will bear. Demand & competition will often dictate pricing as well.

I would venture to say there is a greater demand for Syncro shocks in the US than OME's home country.

BenT
Sent from my Boge N's

On Feb 11, 2011, at 3:51 PM, smarcoux@club-internet.fr wrote:

> hello,
> i'm new to this forum, a frenchman living in bunbury western australia.
>
> I swaped a few years ago the shocks on my syncro, for those OME units, and i really had a doubt these shocks were ever manufactured in australia, or even were OME.
> My landcruiser had some OME, you could read on them: made in australia, and OLD MAN EMU.
> Not on the ones sold for the vw. The paint job was lousy, the sticker wasn't even straight, so everyone in france wondered were they came from. no answer.
> Rumors are they might simply be gabriel or whatever rebadged units.
> maybe this was special to the europeen market?
> and they even didn't offer more travel then the original.
>
> I wouldn't pay the price for them now, but stick to the good old boge that really did a good job.
> stef
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "nwjfletcher" <nwjfletcher@...> wrote:
>>
>> Yup, roadworthy time. Apparently 3 of the shocks are weeping and need replacing, so it seems time to upgrade to those Old Man Emu ones everyone raves about. But are they REALLY only available in Oz at hundreds of $'s more than the same shocks in the US? I rang ARB who quoted me $770 for the set of 4, while GoWesty do them for $549 (USD). I asked how its possible for GoWesty to import them, ship them, pay dity and make a mark up and do it all for so much less then the company here that makes them... ARB didnt have an answer. Hmm. Anyone found them for less this side of the Pacific?
>>
>> Many thanks
>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>





--
Regards

Michael

Michael Rayner East Light Photography
PO Box 144
MALLACOOTA  VIC  3892

MOB: 0409 241 672
BUS:  0351169401
A/H:   (03)5158 0346

Web:   www.michaelraynerphotography.com.au
Email:  michaelrayner@exemail.com.au



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On Feb 11, 2011, at 6:18 PM, smarcoux@club-internet.fr wrote:
anyway they really didn't make a difference over the original ones, i even had to machine some "lenghtener" that bolted on top of them to allow the extra travel needed.


There is apparently an easier way to accomplish lengthening. You can simply use VW Part Number:
131 413 441

P/N courtesy of Mike Ghia 

John Wessels of SyncroMog fame confirmed has this system on his rig all these years without any problems.


BenT
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Hi Stef

I too live in Bunbury. Do you have a Syncro here.

I havent seen another one around these parts. Greg




--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, smarcoux@... wrote:
>
> hello,
> i'm new to this forum, a frenchman living in bunbury western australia.
>
> I swaped a few years ago the shocks on my syncro, for those OME units, and i really had a doubt these shocks were ever manufactured in australia, or even were OME.
> My landcruiser had some OME, you could read on them: made in australia, and OLD MAN EMU.
> Not on the ones sold for the vw. The paint job was lousy, the sticker wasn't even straight, so everyone in france wondered were they came from. no answer.
> Rumors are they might simply be gabriel or whatever rebadged units.
> maybe this was special to the europeen market?
> and they even didn't offer more travel then the original.
>
> I wouldn't pay the price for them now, but stick to the good old boge that really did a good job.
> stef
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "nwjfletcher" <nwjfletcher@> wrote:
> >
> > Yup, roadworthy time. Apparently 3 of the shocks are weeping and need replacing, so it seems time to upgrade to those Old Man Emu ones everyone raves about. But are they REALLY only available in Oz at hundreds of $'s more than the same shocks in the US? I rang ARB who quoted me $770 for the set of 4, while GoWesty do them for $549 (USD). I asked how its possible for GoWesty to import them, ship them, pay dity and make a mark up and do it all for so much less then the company here that makes them... ARB didnt have an answer. Hmm. Anyone found them for less this side of the Pacific?
> >
> > Many thanks
> >
>
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Where can you get the Boge shocks in Oz, and are they cheaper than Old Man Emu? 

Oh, and my roadworthy says that the caster control arm bushes need replacing, yet I cant find a reference to them in my VW pdf of the transporter... does it have another name?

 The expertise in this forum is bloody invaluable. Thanks guys.

--- On Sat, 12/2/11, Hartmut Kiehn <hartis@live.com.au> wrote:

From: Hartmut Kiehn <hartis@live.com.au>
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Roadworthy shock
To: "Hartmut Kiehn" <syncro_t3_australia@yahoogroups.com>
Received: Saturday, 12 February, 2011, 2:39 AM

 

BenT/Stef   ... give me Boge anytime , grew up with them, trust them. The monroe part seems to be correct, they are built in Belgium and receive their yellow in Oz.
 
Shipping backwards and forwards is BIG business these days........ Hartis
 

To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: syncro@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 16:48:47 -0800
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Roadworthy shock

 
Stef,

It is fairly well known even here in the US that OME's use Monroe bodies. It's the valving and other interior parts which are OME.

Manufacturers price goods as high as the market will bear. Demand & competition will often dictate pricing as well.

I would venture to say there is a greater demand for Syncro shocks in the US than OME's home country.

BenT
Sent from my Boge N's

On Feb 11, 2011, at 3:51 PM, smarcoux@club-internet.fr wrote:

> hello,
> i'm new to this forum, a frenchman living in bunbury western australia.
>
> I swaped a few years ago the shocks on my syncro, for those OME units, and i really had a doubt these shocks were ever manufactured in australia, or even were OME.
> My landcruiser had some OME, you could read on them: made in australia, and OLD MAN EMU.
> Not on the ones sold for the vw. The paint job was lousy, the sticker wasn't even straight, so everyone in france wondered were they came from. no answer.
> Rumors are they might simply be gabriel or whatever rebadged units.
> maybe this was special to the europeen market?
> and they even didn't offer more travel then the original.
>
> I wouldn't pay the price for them now, but stick to the good old boge that really did a good job.
> stef
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "nwjfletcher" <nwjfletcher@...> wrote:
>>
>> Yup, roadworthy time. Apparently 3 of the shocks are weeping and need replacing, so it seems time to upgrade to those Old Man Emu ones everyone raves about. But are they REALLY only available in Oz at hundreds of $'s more than the same shocks in the US? I rang ARB who quoted me $770 for the set of 4, while GoWesty do them for $549 (USD). I asked how its possible for GoWesty to import them, ship them, pay dity and make a mark up and do it all for so much less then the company here that makes them... ARB didnt have an answer. Hmm. Anyone found them for less this side of the Pacific?
>>
>> Many thanks
>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>


 
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Try Just kampers item j10770 and j10846, two of each.

--- On Sat, 12/2/11, Nicholas Fletcher <nwjfletcher@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Nicholas Fletcher <nwjfletcher@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Roadworthy shock
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Received: Saturday, 12 February, 2011, 9:18 PM

 
Where can you get the Boge shocks in Oz, and are they cheaper than Old Man Emu? 

Oh, and my roadworthy says that the caster control arm bushes need replacing, yet I cant find a reference to them in my VW pdf of the transporter... does it have another name?

 The expertise in this forum is bloody invaluable. Thanks guys.

--- On Sat, 12/2/11, Hartmut Kiehn <hartis@live.com.au> wrote:

From: Hartmut Kiehn <hartis@live.com.au>
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Roadworthy shock
To: "Hartmut Kiehn" <syncro_t3_australia@yahoogroups.com>
Received: Saturday, 12 February, 2011, 2:39 AM

 
BenT/Stef   ... give me Boge anytime , grew up with them, trust them. The monroe part seems to be correct, they are built in Belgium and receive their yellow in Oz.
 
Shipping backwards and forwards is BIG business these days........ Hartis
 
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: syncro@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 16:48:47 -0800
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Roadworthy shock

 
Stef,

It is fairly well known even here in the US that OME's use Monroe bodies. It's the valving and other interior parts which are OME.

Manufacturers price goods as high as the market will bear. Demand & competition will often dictate pricing as well.

I would venture to say there is a greater demand for Syncro shocks in the US than OME's home country.

BenT
Sent from my Boge N's

On Feb 11, 2011, at 3:51 PM, smarcoux@club-internet.fr wrote:

> hello,
> i'm new to this forum, a frenchman living in bunbury western australia.
>
> I swaped a few years ago the shocks on my syncro, for those OME units, and i really had a doubt these shocks were ever manufactured in australia, or even were OME.
> My landcruiser had some OME, you could read on them: made in australia, and OLD MAN EMU.
> Not on the ones sold for the vw. The paint job was lousy, the sticker wasn't even straight, so everyone in france wondered were they came from. no answer.
> Rumors are they might simply be gabriel or whatever rebadged units.
> maybe this was special to the europeen market?
> and they even didn't offer more travel then the original.
>
> I wouldn't pay the price for them now, but stick to the good old boge that really did a good job.
> stef
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "nwjfletcher" <nwjfletcher@...> wrote:
>>
>> Yup, roadworthy time. Apparently 3 of the shocks are weeping and need replacing, so it seems time to upgrade to those Old Man Emu ones everyone raves about. But are they REALLY only available in Oz at hundreds of $'s more than the same shocks in the US? I rang ARB who quoted me $770 for the set of 4, while GoWesty do them for $549 (USD). I asked how its possible for GoWesty to import them, ship them, pay dity and make a mark up and do it all for so much less then the company here that makes them... ARB didnt have an answer. Hmm. Anyone found them for less this side of the Pacific?
>>
>> Many thanks
>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>


 

 
13
Hi Nick,
The Boges should be available from VW. At least it is here in the US. They are cheaper from outside VW's network in my experience. Info from Bus Depot indicated VW lists the stock Boge shock for the Syncro at US$301.15. See below:
US$99.95 at Bus Depot
US$108.91 at GoWesty
US$124.95 at Van Cafe (Sachs brand same P/N 251413031C)
Compared to Old Man Emu:
US$199.95 at GoWesty
US$174.00 at Van Cafe
US$ 0.000 not carried by Bus Depot
NOTE: Pricing is per single front shock.
Boge shock listings are for P/N 251413031C.
It is generally thought that the 'C' suffix shock absorber is best
suited to a lighter weight Syncro. The stiffer Boge 'N' suffix shocks
are not readily available.
BenT




On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 2:18 AM, Nicholas Fletcher <nwjfletcher@yahoo.com> wrote:


Where can you get the Boge shocks in Oz, and are they cheaper than Old Man Emu?

Oh, and my roadworthy says that the caster control arm bushes need replacing, yet I cant find a reference to them in my VW pdf of the transporter... does it have another name?

The expertise in this forum is bloody invaluable. Thanks guys.

--- On Sat, 12/2/11, Hartmut Kiehn <hartis@live.com.au> wrote:

From: Hartmut Kiehn <hartis@live.com.au>
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Roadworthy shock
To: "Hartmut Kiehn" <syncro_t3_australia@yahoogroups.com>
Received: Saturday, 12 February, 2011, 2:39 AM


BenT/Stef ... give me Boge anytime , grew up with them, trust them. The monroe part seems to be correct, they are built in Belgium and receive their yellow in Oz.

Shipping backwards and forwards is BIG business these days........ Hartis

To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: syncro@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 16:48:47 -0800
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Roadworthy shock

Stef,

It is fairly well known even here in the US that OME's use Monroe bodies. It's the valving and other interior parts which are OME.

Manufacturers price goods as high as the market will bear. Demand & competition will often dictate pricing as well.

I would venture to say there is a greater demand for Syncro shocks in the US than OME's home country.

BenT
Sent from my Boge N's

On Feb 11, 2011, at 3:51 PM, smarcoux@club-internet.fr wrote:

> hello,
> i'm new to this forum, a frenchman living in bunbury western australia.
>
> I swaped a few years ago the shocks on my syncro, for those OME units, and i really had a doubt these shocks were ever manufactured in australia, or even were OME.
> My landcruiser had some OME, you could read on them: made in australia, and OLD MAN EMU.
> Not on the ones sold for the vw. The paint job was lousy, the sticker wasn't even straight, so everyone in france wondered were they came from. no answer.
> Rumors are they might simply be gabriel or whatever rebadged units.
> maybe this was special to the europeen market?
> and they even didn't offer more travel then the original.
>
> I wouldn't pay the price for them now, but stick to the good old boge that really did a good job.
> stef
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "nwjfletcher" <nwjfletcher@...> wrote:
>>
>> Yup, roadworthy time. Apparently 3 of the shocks are weeping and need replacing, so it seems time to upgrade to those Old Man Emu ones everyone raves about. But are they REALLY only available in Oz at hundreds of $'s more than the same shocks in the US? I rang ARB who quoted me $770 for the set of 4, while GoWesty do them for $549 (USD). I asked how its possible for GoWesty to import them, ship them, pay dity and make a mark up and do it all for so much less then the company here that makes them... ARB didnt have an answer. Hmm. Anyone found them for less this side of the Pacific?
>>
>> Many thanks
>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>







--
BenT
14
Here's the link for the photo on the shock extension I previously mentioned:



BenT


On Feb 11, 2011, at 8:31 PM, BenT Syncro <syncro@gmail.com> wrote:

On Feb 11, 2011, at 6:18 PM, smarcoux@club-internet.fr wrote:
anyway they really didn't make a difference over the original ones, i even had to machine some "lenghtener" that bolted on top of them to allow the extra travel needed.


There is apparently an easier way to accomplish lengthening. You can simply use VW Part Number:
131 413 441

P/N courtesy of Mike Ghia 

John Wessels of SyncroMog fame confirmed has this system on his rig all these years without any problems.


BenT

15
The later Australian syncros came with the "M" shock. The "C" shocks were lucky to last 30k and a lot were replaced under warranty. I coud have bought the "C" suffix shocks for about $40 each many years ago from VW stock. The "N" shock is for syncro 16".

Phill



> BenT Syncro <syncro@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Nick,
>
> The Boges should be available from VW. At least it is here in the US.
> They
> are cheaper from outside VW's network in my experience. Info from Bus
> Depot
> indicated VW lists the stock Boge shock for the Syncro at US$301.15. See
> below:
>
> US$99.95 at Bus Depot
> US$108.91 at GoWesty
> US$124.95 at Van Cafe (Sachs brand same P/N 251413031C)
> Compared to Old Man Emu:
> US$199.95 at GoWesty
> US$174.00 at Van Cafe
> US$ 0.000 not carried by Bus Depot
>
> NOTE: Pricing is per single front shock.
> Boge shock listings are for P/N 251413031C.
> It is generally thought that the 'C' suffix shock absorber is
> best
> suited to a lighter weight Syncro. The stiffer Boge 'N'
> suffix
> shocks
> are not readily available.
>
>
> BenT
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 2:18 AM, Nicholas Fletcher
> <nwjfletcher@yahoo.com>wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Where can you get the Boge shocks in Oz, and are they cheaper than
> Old
> > Man Emu?
> >
> > Oh, and my roadworthy says that the caster control arm bushes need
> > replacing, yet I cant find a reference to them in my VW pdf of the
> > transporter... does it have another name?
> >
> > The expertise in this forum is bloody invaluable. Thanks guys.
> >
> > --- On *Sat, 12/2/11, Hartmut Kiehn <hartis@live.com.au>* wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Hartmut Kiehn <hartis@live.com.au>
> > Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Roadworthy shock
> > To: "Hartmut Kiehn" <syncro_t3_australia@yahoogroups.com>
> > Received: Saturday, 12 February, 2011, 2:39 AM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > BenT/Stef ... give me Boge anytime , grew up with them, trust them.
> The
> > monroe part seems to be correct, they are built in Belgium and receive
> their
> > yellow in Oz.
> >
> > Shipping backwards and forwards is BIG business these days........
> Hartis
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > From: syncro@gmail.com
> > Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 16:48:47 -0800
> > Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Roadworthy shock
> >
> >
> > Stef,
> >
> > It is fairly well known even here in the US that OME's use Monroe
> bodies.
> > It's the valving and other interior parts which are OME.
> >
> > Manufacturers price goods as high as the market will bear. Demand &
> > competition will often dictate pricing as well.
> >
> > I would venture to say there is a greater demand for Syncro shocks in
> the
> > US than OME's home country.
> >
> > BenT
> > Sent from my Boge N's
> >
> > On Feb 11, 2011, at 3:51 PM,
> smarcoux@club-internet.fr<http://mc/compose?to=smarcoux@club-internet.fr>
> wrote:
> >
> > > hello,
> > > i'm new to this forum, a frenchman living in bunbury western
> australia.
> > >
> > > I swaped a few years ago the shocks on my syncro, for those OME
> units,
> > and i really had a doubt these shocks were ever manufactured in
> australia,
> > or even were OME.
> > > My landcruiser had some OME, you could read on them: made in
> australia,
> > and OLD MAN EMU.
> > > Not on the ones sold for the vw. The paint job was lousy, the
> sticker
> > wasn't even straight, so everyone in france wondered were they came
> from. no
> > answer.
> > > Rumors are they might simply be gabriel or whatever rebadged units.
> > > maybe this was special to the europeen market?
> > > and they even didn't offer more travel then the original.
> > >
> > > I wouldn't pay the price for them now, but stick to the good old
> boge
> > that really did a good job.
> > > stef
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In
> Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com<http://mc/compose?to=Syncro_T3_Austra
> lia@yahoogroups.com>,
> > "nwjfletcher" <nwjfletcher@...> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Yup, roadworthy time. Apparently 3 of the shocks are weeping and
> need
> > replacing, so it seems time to upgrade to those Old Man Emu ones
> everyone
> > raves about. But are they REALLY only available in Oz at hundreds of
> $'s
> > more than the same shocks in the US? I rang ARB who quoted me $770 for
> the
> > set of 4, while GoWesty do them for $549 (USD). I asked how its
> possible for
> > GoWesty to import them, ship them, pay dity and make a mark up and do
> it all
> > for so much less then the company here that makes them... ARB didnt
> have an
> > answer. Hmm. Anyone found them for less this side of the Pacific?
> > >>
> > >> Many thanks
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> BenT
16
Hi Ben. Brilliant, sounds like all is good to go then. When you mention shared shipping, is that because you have other T3 parts for sale? If so it would be great to know what, as my van seems to need a few things sorting before she's all good to go. Other than paypal, is there another payment method that doesn't take 2.9%?

Thanks

`````my email is nwjfletcher@hotmail.com

--- On Sat, 12/2/11, BenT Syncro <syncro@gmail.com> wrote:

From: BenT Syncro <syncro@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Roadworthy shock
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Received: Saturday, 12 February, 2011, 11:09 AM

 

Hi Nick,
 
The Boges should be available from VW. At least it is here in the US. They are cheaper from outside VW's network in my experience. Info from Bus Depot indicated VW lists the stock Boge shock for the Syncro at US$301.15. See below:
 
US$99.95 at Bus Depot
US$108.91 at GoWesty
US$124.95 at Van Cafe (Sachs brand same P/N 251413031C)
Compared to Old Man Emu:
US$199.95 at GoWesty
US$174.00 at Van Cafe
US$ 0.000 not carried by Bus Depot
 
NOTE: Pricing is per single front shock.
           Boge shock listings are for P/N 251413031C.
           It is generally thought that the 'C' suffix shock absorber is best
           suited to a lighter weight Syncro. The stiffer Boge 'N' suffix shocks
           are not readily available.
 
 
BenT


 
 


 
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 2:18 AM, Nicholas Fletcher <nwjfletcher@yahoo.com> wrote:


Where can you get the Boge shocks in Oz, and are they cheaper than Old Man Emu? 

Oh, and my roadworthy says that the caster control arm bushes need replacing, yet I cant find a reference to them in my VW pdf of the transporter... does it have another name?

 The expertise in this forum is bloody invaluable. Thanks guys.

--- On Sat, 12/2/11, Hartmut Kiehn <hartis@live.com.au> wrote:

From: Hartmut Kiehn <hartis@live.com.au>
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Roadworthy shock
To: "Hartmut Kiehn" <syncro_t3_australia@yahoogroups.com>
Received: Saturday, 12 February, 2011, 2:39 AM


 

BenT/Stef   ... give me Boge anytime , grew up with them, trust them. The monroe part seems to be correct, they are built in Belgium and receive their yellow in Oz.
 
Shipping backwards and forwards is BIG business these days........ Hartis
 

To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: syncro@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 16:48:47 -0800
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Roadworthy shock

 
Stef,

It is fairly well known even here in the US that OME's use Monroe bodies. It's the valving and other interior parts which are OME.

Manufacturers price goods as high as the market will bear. Demand & competition will often dictate pricing as well.

I would venture to say there is a greater demand for Syncro shocks in the US than OME's home country.

BenT
Sent from my Boge N's

On Feb 11, 2011, at 3:51 PM, smarcoux@club-internet.fr wrote:

> hello,
> i'm new to this forum, a frenchman living in bunbury western australia.
>
> I swaped a few years ago the shocks on my syncro, for those OME units, and i really had a doubt these shocks were ever manufactured in australia, or even were OME.
> My landcruiser had some OME, you could read on them: made in australia, and OLD MAN EMU.
> Not on the ones sold for the vw. The paint job was lousy, the sticker wasn't even straight, so everyone in france wondered were they came from. no answer.
> Rumors are they might simply be gabriel or whatever rebadged units.
> maybe this was special to the europeen market?
> and they even didn't offer more travel then the original.
>
> I wouldn't pay the price for them now, but stick to the good old boge that really did a good job.
> stef
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "nwjfletcher" <nwjfletcher@...> wrote:
>>
>> Yup, roadworthy time. Apparently 3 of the shocks are weeping and need replacing, so it seems time to upgrade to those Old Man Emu ones everyone raves about. But are they REALLY only available in Oz at hundreds of $'s more than the same shocks in the US? I rang ARB who quoted me $770 for the set of 4, while GoWesty do them for $549 (USD). I asked how its possible for GoWesty to import them, ship them, pay dity and make a mark up and do it all for so much less then the company here that makes them... ARB didnt have an answer. Hmm. Anyone found them for less this side of the Pacific?
>>
>> Many thanks
>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>


 




--
BenT

 
17
Hi Phill,

The M is a 'shock' for me for sure. Do you know how it differs from the C or N shocks?

Since Hartmut's Tristar was likely a naturalized Aussie, which Boge is he happy with?


BenT


On Feb 12, 2011, at 10:04 AM, plander@optusnet.com.au wrote:

> The later Australian syncros came with the "M" shock. The "C" shocks were lucky to last 30k and a lot were replaced under warranty. I coud have bought the "C" suffix shocks for about $40 each many years ago from VW stock. The "N" shock is for syncro 16".
>
> Phill
>
>
>
>> BenT Syncro <syncro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Nick,
>>
>> The Boges should be available from VW. At least it is here in the US.
>> They
>> are cheaper from outside VW's network in my experience. Info from Bus
>> Depot
>> indicated VW lists the stock Boge shock for the Syncro at US$301.15. See
>> below:
>>
>> US$99.95 at Bus Depot
>> US$108.91 at GoWesty
>> US$124.95 at Van Cafe (Sachs brand same P/N 251413031C)
>> Compared to Old Man Emu:
>> US$199.95 at GoWesty
>> US$174.00 at Van Cafe
>> US$ 0.000 not carried by Bus Depot
>>
>> NOTE: Pricing is per single front shock.
>> Boge shock listings are for P/N 251413031C.
>> It is generally thought that the 'C' suffix shock absorber is
>> best
>> suited to a lighter weight Syncro. The stiffer Boge 'N'
>> suffix
>> shocks
>> are not readily available.
>>
>>
>> BenT
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 2:18 AM, Nicholas Fletcher
>> <nwjfletcher@yahoo.com>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Where can you get the Boge shocks in Oz, and are they cheaper than
>> Old
>>> Man Emu?
>>>
>>> Oh, and my roadworthy says that the caster control arm bushes need
>>> replacing, yet I cant find a reference to them in my VW pdf of the
>>> transporter... does it have another name?
>>>
>>> The expertise in this forum is bloody invaluable. Thanks guys.
>>>
>>> --- On *Sat, 12/2/11, Hartmut Kiehn <hartis@live.com.au>* wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Hartmut Kiehn <hartis@live.com.au>
>>> Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Roadworthy shock
>>> To: "Hartmut Kiehn" <syncro_t3_australia@yahoogroups.com>
>>> Received: Saturday, 12 February, 2011, 2:39 AM
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> BenT/Stef ... give me Boge anytime , grew up with them, trust them.
>> The
>>> monroe part seems to be correct, they are built in Belgium and receive
>> their
>>> yellow in Oz.
>>>
>>> Shipping backwards and forwards is BIG business these days........
>> Hartis
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
>>> From: syncro@gmail.com
>>> Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 16:48:47 -0800
>>> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Roadworthy shock
>>>
>>>
>>> Stef,
>>>
>>> It is fairly well known even here in the US that OME's use Monroe
>> bodies.
>>> It's the valving and other interior parts which are OME.
>>>
>>> Manufacturers price goods as high as the market will bear. Demand &
>>> competition will often dictate pricing as well.
>>>
>>> I would venture to say there is a greater demand for Syncro shocks in
>> the
>>> US than OME's home country.
>>>
>>> BenT
>>> Sent from my Boge N's
>>>
>>> On Feb 11, 2011, at 3:51 PM,
>> smarcoux@club-internet.fr<http://mc/compose?to=smarcoux@club-internet.fr>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> hello,
>>>> i'm new to this forum, a frenchman living in bunbury western
>> australia.
>>>>
>>>> I swaped a few years ago the shocks on my syncro, for those OME
>> units,
>>> and i really had a doubt these shocks were ever manufactured in
>> australia,
>>> or even were OME.
>>>> My landcruiser had some OME, you could read on them: made in
>> australia,
>>> and OLD MAN EMU.
>>>> Not on the ones sold for the vw. The paint job was lousy, the
>> sticker
>>> wasn't even straight, so everyone in france wondered were they came
>> from. no
>>> answer.
>>>> Rumors are they might simply be gabriel or whatever rebadged units.
>>>> maybe this was special to the europeen market?
>>>> and they even didn't offer more travel then the original.
>>>>
>>>> I wouldn't pay the price for them now, but stick to the good old
>> boge
>>> that really did a good job.
>>>> stef
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --- In
>> Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com<http://mc/compose?to=Syncro_T3_Austra
>> lia@yahoogroups.com>,
>>> "nwjfletcher" <nwjfletcher@...> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Yup, roadworthy time. Apparently 3 of the shocks are weeping and
>> need
>>> replacing, so it seems time to upgrade to those Old Man Emu ones
>> everyone
>>> raves about. But are they REALLY only available in Oz at hundreds of
>> $'s
>>> more than the same shocks in the US? I rang ARB who quoted me $770 for
>> the
>>> set of 4, while GoWesty do them for $549 (USD). I asked how its
>> possible for
>>> GoWesty to import them, ship them, pay dity and make a mark up and do
>> it all
>>> for so much less then the company here that makes them... ARB didnt
>> have an
>>> answer. Hmm. Anyone found them for less this side of the Pacific?
>>>>>
>>>>> Many thanks
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> BenT
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
18
thanks for great tip!
that's one to keep in mind.

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, BenT Syncro <syncro@...> wrote:
>
> On Feb 11, 2011, at 6:18 PM, smarcoux@... wrote:
> > anyway they really didn't make a difference over the original ones, i even had to machine some "lenghtener" that bolted on top of them to allow the extra travel needed.
>
>
> There is apparently an easier way to accomplish lengthening. You can simply use VW Part Number:
> 131 413 441
>
> P/N courtesy of Mike Ghia
>
> John Wessels of SyncroMog fame confirmed has this system on his rig all these years without any problems.
>
>
> BenT
>
19
hi greg, and all
i'm in peppy beach, but no syncro. i didn't bring it down to oz as i was really unsure i could get it through all the paperwork.
but i'm happy to share a beer, leaning against yours!
stef

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Greg" <greg_navarro95@...> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Stef
>
> I too live in Bunbury. Do you have a Syncro here.
>
> I havent seen another one around these parts. Greg
>
>
>
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, smarcoux@ wrote:
> >
> > hello,
> > i'm new to this forum, a frenchman living in bunbury western australia.
> >
> > I swaped a few years ago the shocks on my syncro, for those OME units, and i really had a doubt these shocks were ever manufactured in australia, or even were OME.
> > My landcruiser had some OME, you could read on them: made in australia, and OLD MAN EMU.
> > Not on the ones sold for the vw. The paint job was lousy, the sticker wasn't even straight, so everyone in france wondered were they came from. no answer.
> > Rumors are they might simply be gabriel or whatever rebadged units.
> > maybe this was special to the europeen market?
> > and they even didn't offer more travel then the original.
> >
> > I wouldn't pay the price for them now, but stick to the good old boge that really did a good job.
> > stef
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "nwjfletcher" <nwjfletcher@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Yup, roadworthy time. Apparently 3 of the shocks are weeping and need replacing, so it seems time to upgrade to those Old Man Emu ones everyone raves about. But are they REALLY only available in Oz at hundreds of $'s more than the same shocks in the US? I rang ARB who quoted me $770 for the set of 4, while GoWesty do them for $549 (USD). I asked how its possible for GoWesty to import them, ship them, pay dity and make a mark up and do it all for so much less then the company here that makes them... ARB didnt have an answer. Hmm. Anyone found them for less this side of the Pacific?
> > >
> > > Many thanks
> > >
> >
>
20
Hi Stef,

Here's the pic from Mike Ghia's (UK) posting: