Starter Motor Faulty

1
Hi All,
Went for a great drive to Diamond Beach, great beach, camping ground, nature, etc. On leaving engine wont start. Battery good, clicking sounds around motor when ignition turned on. Push jump started easily. I think this points to faulty stater motor or solonoid. Anyone had to replace/ recondition their Syncro stater motor? I tried taping starter with a shifter, checked all wiring however not sure if there is wiring on the starter motor I should check.
Also unable to stop motor on way home and motor developed a miss what I believe is known as Vanagon Syndrome. I still love my Syncro. Any tips
Cheers Dave
2
Ignition switch for starters. Pardon the pun. Greg E

From: David <davidleibmann@yahoo.com.au>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, 15 January 2012 9:30 AM
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Starter Motor Faulty

 
Hi All,
Went for a great drive to Diamond Beach, great beach, camping ground, nature, etc. On leaving engine wont start. Battery good, clicking sounds around motor when ignition turned on. Push jump started easily. I think this points to faulty stater motor or solonoid. Anyone had to replace/ recondition their Syncro stater motor? I tried taping starter with a shifter, checked all wiring however not sure if there is wiring on the starter motor I should check.
Also unable to stop motor on way home and motor developed a miss what I believe is known as Vanagon Syndrome. I still love my Syncro. Any tips
Cheers Dave



3
Could be faulty ignition switch. Put your spare one on to try.



> David <davidleibmann@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
> Hi All,

> Also unable to stop motor

Not Vanagon syndrome.




>on way home and motor developed a miss what I
> believe is known as Vanagon Syndrome.

Could be
4
How did you turn it off. Timing to far advanced?

From: greg esposito <gregespo73@yahoo.com>
To: "Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com" <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, 15 January 2012 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Starter Motor Faulty

 
Ignition switch for starters. Pardon the pun. Greg E

From: David <davidleibmann@yahoo.com.au>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, 15 January 2012 9:30 AM
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Starter Motor Faulty

 
Hi All,
Went for a great drive to Diamond Beach, great beach, camping ground, nature, etc. On leaving engine wont start. Battery good, clicking sounds around motor when ignition turned on. Push jump started easily. I think this points to faulty stater motor or solonoid. Anyone had to replace/ recondition their Syncro stater motor? I tried taping starter with a shifter, checked all wiring however not sure if there is wiring on the starter motor I should check.
Also unable to stop motor on way home and motor developed a miss what I believe is known as Vanagon Syndrome. I still love my Syncro. Any tips
Cheers Dave





5
Shouldn't matter. Fuel injected.



> greg esposito <gregespo73@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> How did you turn it off. Timing to far advanced?
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: greg esposito <gregespo73@yahoo.com>
> To: "Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com"
> <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, 15 January 2012 10:06 AM
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Starter Motor Faulty
>
>
>
> ����
>
> Ignition switch for starters. Pardon the pun. Greg E
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: David <davidleibmann@yahoo.com.au>
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, 15 January 2012 9:30 AM
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Starter Motor Faulty
>
>
> ����
> Hi All,
> Went for a great drive to Diamond Beach, great beach, camping ground,
> nature, etc. On leaving engine wont start. Battery good, clicking sounds
> around motor when ignition turned on. Push jump started easily. I think
> this points to faulty stater motor or solonoid. Anyone had to replace/
> recondition their Syncro stater motor? I tried taping starter with a
> shifter, checked all wiring however not sure if there is wiring on the
> starter motor I should check.
> Also unable to stop motor on way home and motor developed a miss what I
> believe is known as Vanagon Syndrome. I still love my Syncro. Any tips
> Cheers Dave
>
>
>
>
>
6

Hi Dave , if it is not the ign switch or the connections at the starter,  from experience I can only suggeset to take the starter out and have it overhauled or if you do it yourself, fit a new solenoid and check the armature very carefully especially the brushes touch on (is it called commutator  Phill ?) check the solder of the copper bits with a 1in 10 magnifier for hairline cracks. I can show you 2 which look perfect and that’s why I re installed them , only to learn the hard way that both are riddled with cracks in the solder.

Diamond Beach ? the one at the Mid North Coast ? You could have visited.

Hatmut

 

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David
Sent: Sunday, 15 January 2012 9:31 AM
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Starter Motor Faulty

 

 

Hi All,
Went for a great drive to Diamond Beach, great beach, camping ground, nature, etc. On leaving engine wont start. Battery good, clicking sounds around motor when ignition turned on. Push jump started easily. I think this points to faulty stater motor or solonoid. Anyone had to replace/ recondition their Syncro stater motor? I tried taping starter with a shifter, checked all wiring however not sure if there is wiring on the starter motor I should check.
Also unable to stop motor on way home and motor developed a miss what I believe is known as Vanagon Syndrome. I still love my Syncro. Any tips
Cheers Dave

7
If ignition switch was faulty would all normal lights on dash come on as they are?
The miss is a totally other problem. When motor is driven few hours on highway then sits in traffic jam for example then motor develops miss and evenyually will stall. 10 minute cool down and away she goes again without a miss. I believe the Americans made a extra sensor on the air filter to correct this . Does anyone know if this after market part is available in Australia? I know they cost a bit!
Cheers Dave

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, plander@... wrote:
>
> Shouldn't matter. Fuel injected.
>
>
>
> > greg esposito <gregespo73@...> wrote:
> >
> > How did you turn it off. Timing to far advanced?
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: greg esposito <gregespo73@...>
> > To: "Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com"
> > <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, 15 January 2012 10:06 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Starter Motor Faulty
> >
> >
> >
> > ÂÂ
> >
> > Ignition switch for starters. Pardon the pun. Greg E
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: David <davidleibmann@...>
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Sunday, 15 January 2012 9:30 AM
> > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Starter Motor Faulty
> >
> >
> > ÂÂ
> > Hi All,
> > Went for a great drive to Diamond Beach, great beach, camping ground,
> > nature, etc. On leaving engine wont start. Battery good, clicking sounds
> > around motor when ignition turned on. Push jump started easily. I think
> > this points to faulty stater motor or solonoid. Anyone had to replace/
> > recondition their Syncro stater motor? I tried taping starter with a
> > shifter, checked all wiring however not sure if there is wiring on the
> > starter motor I should check.
> > Also unable to stop motor on way home and motor developed a miss what I
> > believe is known as Vanagon Syndrome. I still love my Syncro. Any tips
> > Cheers Dave
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
8
Hi Hatmut
It was Diamond Beach on th Mid N/C. Indian Head, Kylies all magical spots to take the Syncro. Unfortunately I dont have a spare ignition switch.
Dave


--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Hartmut Kiehn" <hartis@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Dave , if it is not the ign switch or the connections at the starter,
> from experience I can only suggeset to take the starter out and have it
> overhauled or if you do it yourself, fit a new solenoid and check the
> armature very carefully especially the brushes touch on (is it called
> commutator Phill ?) check the solder of the copper bits with a 1in 10
> magnifier for hairline cracks. I can show you 2 which look perfect and
> that's why I re installed them , only to learn the hard way that both are
> riddled with cracks in the solder.
>
> Diamond Beach ? the one at the Mid North Coast ? You could have visited.
>
> Hatmut
>
>
>
> From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David
> Sent: Sunday, 15 January 2012 9:31 AM
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Starter Motor Faulty
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi All,
> Went for a great drive to Diamond Beach, great beach, camping ground,
> nature, etc. On leaving engine wont start. Battery good, clicking sounds
> around motor when ignition turned on. Push jump started easily. I think this
> points to faulty stater motor or solonoid. Anyone had to replace/
> recondition their Syncro stater motor? I tried taping starter with a
> shifter, checked all wiring however not sure if there is wiring on the
> starter motor I should check.
> Also unable to stop motor on way home and motor developed a miss what I
> believe is known as Vanagon Syndrome. I still love my Syncro. Any tips
> Cheers Dave
>
9
hi,
re
Anyone had to replace/
> > recondition their Syncro starter
motor?
 
Countless thousands of starter motors have been replaced on Syncro T3 vans..
it's a regular 'wear item' ..
they often last 15 + years though.
 
there's a starter bushing in the bell housing btw..those don't wear much either, but they can.
 
sounds very much like an ignition switch issue to me, or could be.
 
when there is 'vanagon syndrome' it's not missing on one cylinder.
it's a vague 'won't go' ..
stopping and restarting usually fixes it until it does it again.
and yes there is a 'repair harness' ...
for that.  Goes between Air Flow Meter and the connector that did plug onto the AFM ..
it's about 6 inches long..
it's better to have one, they can be expensive.
Not having one is not necessarily ' a problem' though.
 
makes me think of loading up on one cylinder..
spark plug not firing after idling a while...like bad plug wire or too large plug gap, or just worn plug.
 
about 70 % of the vans I check don't have their idle switch making contact at idle..
that's very important, to have that working right.
 
Scott
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: David
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Starter Motor Faulty

 

If ignition switch was faulty would all normal lights on dash come on as they are?
The miss is a totally other problem. When motor is driven few hours on highway then sits in traffic jam for example then motor develops miss and evenyually will stall. 10 minute cool down and away she goes again without a miss. I believe the Americans made a extra sensor on the air filter to correct this . Does anyone know if this after market part is available in Australia? I know they cost a bit!
Cheers Dave

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, plander@... wrote:
>
> Shouldn't matter. Fuel injected.
>
>
>
> > greg esposito <gregespo73@...> wrote:
> >
> > How did you turn it off. Timing to far advanced?
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: greg esposito <gregespo73@...>
> > To: "Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com"
> > <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, 15 January 2012 10:06 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Starter Motor Faulty
> >
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> > Ignition switch for starters. Pardon the pun. Greg E
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: David <davidleibmann@...>
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Sunday, 15 January 2012 9:30 AM
> > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Starter Motor Faulty
> >
> >
> >  
> > Hi All,
> > Went for a great drive to Diamond Beach, great beach, camping ground,
> > nature, etc. On leaving engine wont start. Battery good, clicking sounds
> > around motor when ignition turned on. Push jump started easily. I think
> > this points to faulty stater motor or solonoid. Anyone had to replace/
> > recondition their Syncro stater motor? I tried taping starter with a
> > shifter, checked all wiring however not sure if there is wiring on the
> > starter motor I should check.
> > Also unable to stop motor on way home and motor developed a miss what I
> > believe is known as Vanagon Syndrome. I still love my Syncro. Any tips
> > Cheers Dave
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

10

David,

The ignition switch has the propensity to eventually gunk up and cause a starting problem, usually intermittent but progressing to no start eventually.  A spare switch is a good insurance.  The starter circuit is dedicated and does not affect dash lights, etc.  The problem can also originate from the wiring and connections between the switch and the starter solenoid. 

I had the same problem last year so I removed the starter and thoroughly cleaned the terminals and coated them with Vaseline.  While I was at it, I also installed a momentary on (push) switch in the engine bay.  This amounts to a separate starter circuit and can also be useful when working on the engine; it can be inched over to improve access to various components.

After I had done the job, Ken posted a brilliant idea; this was to actually solder the leads for this separate starter circuit to the tags on the solenoid.  The access to the starter is very poor and the solenoid is on top of the starter so that is far worse.

The rough running is probably Vanagon Syndrome and a separate issue.  You will get plenty of advice from other members on this.

Les

 

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David
Sent: 15 January 2012 10:24
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Starter Motor Faulty

If ignition switch was faulty would all normal lights on dash come on as they are?
The miss is a totally other problem. When motor is driven few hours on highway then sits in traffic jam for example then motor develops miss and evenyually will stall. 10 minute cool down and away she goes again without a miss. I believe the Americans made a extra sensor on the air filter to correct this . Does anyone know if this after market part is available in Australia ? I know they cost a bit!
Cheers Dave


11
Thanks Les,
Ill check the ignition switch out first but I have the gut feeling the starter motor is at fault. Auto Electrician visit tomorrow on the to do list. Thanks for the excellent advice
Dave

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Les Harris" <leslieharris@...> wrote:
>
> David,
>
> The ignition switch has the propensity to eventually gunk up and cause a
> starting problem, usually intermittent but progressing to no start
> eventually. A spare switch is a good insurance. The starter circuit is
> dedicated and does not affect dash lights, etc. The problem can also
> originate from the wiring and connections between the switch and the starter
> solenoid.
>
> I had the same problem last year so I removed the starter and thoroughly
> cleaned the terminals and coated them with Vaseline. While I was at it, I
> also installed a momentary on (push) switch in the engine bay. This amounts
> to a separate starter circuit and can also be useful when working on the
> engine; it can be inched over to improve access to various components.
>
> After I had done the job, Ken posted a brilliant idea; this was to actually
> solder the leads for this separate starter circuit to the tags on the
> solenoid. The access to the starter is very poor and the solenoid is on top
> of the starter so that is far worse.
>
> The rough running is probably Vanagon Syndrome and a separate issue. You
> will get plenty of advice from other members on this.
>
> Les
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David
> Sent: 15 January 2012 10:24
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Starter Motor Faulty
>
> If ignition switch was faulty would all normal lights on dash come on as
> they are?
> The miss is a totally other problem. When motor is driven few hours on
> highway then sits in traffic jam for example then motor develops miss and
> evenyually will stall. 10 minute cool down and away she goes again without a
> miss. I believe the Americans made a extra sensor on the air filter to
> correct this . Does anyone know if this after market part is available in
> Australia? I know they cost a bit!
> Cheers Dave
>
12
I'm letting Hart recondition my starter motor. I don't think that auto electricians put that much effort in.

Phill



> Hartmut Kiehn <hartis@live.com.au> wrote:
>
> Hi Dave , if it is not the ign switch or the connections at the starter,
> from experience I can only suggeset to take the starter out and have it
> overhauled or if you do it yourself, fit a new solenoid and check the
> armature very carefully especially the brushes touch on (is it called
> commutator Phill ?) check the solder of the copper bits with a 1in 10
> magnifier for hairline cracks. I can show you 2 which look perfect and
> that's why I re installed them , only to learn the hard way that both
> are
> riddled with cracks in the solder.
>
> Diamond Beach ? the one at the Mid North Coast ? You could have visited.
>
> Hatmut
>
13
> David <davidleibmann@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
> Unfortunately I dont have a spare ignition switch.
> Dave
>

Everyone should carry a spare. They are less than $20.

Phill
14

Dave are you gone home ? I do have a switch (you should have a spare too) AND I do have a Vanagon Syndrome cable for  you to test or borrow until you can find one. At the time it helped Francesca.

Hartmut  ( with a “r” it’s what my ASUS l/top doesn’t like to activate , wouldn’t recommend that brand )

 

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David
Sent: Sunday, 15 January 2012 10:47 AM
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Starter Motor Faulty

 

 


Hi Hartmut
It was Diamond Beach on the Mid N/C. Indian Head, Kylies all magical spots to take the Syncro. Unfortunately I don’t have a spare ignition switch.
Dave

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Hartmut Kiehn" <hartis@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Dave , if it is not the ign switch or the connections at the starter,
> from experience I can only suggeset to take the starter out and have it
> overhauled or if you do it yourself, fit a new solenoid and check the
> armature very carefully especially the brushes touch on (is it called
> commutator Phill ?) check the solder of the copper bits with a 1in 10
> magnifier for hairline cracks. I can show you 2 which look perfect and
> that's why I re installed them , only to learn the hard way that both are
> riddled with cracks in the solder.
>
> Diamond Beach ? the one at the Mid North Coast ? You could have visited.
>
> Hatmut
>
>
>
> From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David
> Sent: Sunday, 15 January 2012 9:31 AM
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Starter Motor Faulty
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi All,
> Went for a great drive to Diamond Beach, great beach, camping ground,
> nature, etc. On leaving engine wont start. Battery good, clicking sounds
> around motor when ignition turned on. Push jump started easily. I think this
> points to faulty stater motor or solonoid. Anyone had to replace/
> recondition their Syncro stater motor? I tried taping starter with a
> shifter, checked all wiring however not sure if there is wiring on the
> starter motor I should check.
> Also unable to stop motor on way home and motor developed a miss what I
> believe is known as Vanagon Syndrome. I still love my Syncro. Any tips
> Cheers Dave
>

15

David,

Intermittent starter function is almost always a result of bad electrical contacts, either in the starter switch or along the way to the solenoid.  When I pulled mine out and bench tested it, it ran perfectly, this confirming that it was in the wiring, not the starter or the solenoid.  Starter/solenoids can fail, of course, but never in the intermittent mode.  If it doesn’t run on the bench, then the problem is internal to the starter/solenoid.

Les

 

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David
Sent: 15 January 2012 11:38
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Starter Motor Faulty

Thanks Les,
Ill check the ignition switch out first but I have the gut feeling the starter motor is at fault. Auto Electrician visit tomorrow on the to do list. Thanks for the excellent advice
Dave

_,_._,___

16
The problem with trying the Vanagon Syndrome cable is that the fault may not occur for a year or two. I would say that if it has the symptoms and it fixes itself after being switched off for 15 minutes then it probably is. (as per information from VW)

Phill



> Hartmut Kiehn <hartis@live.com.au> wrote:
>
> Dave are you gone home ? I do have a switch (you should have a spare
> too)
> AND I do have a Vanagon Syndrome cable for you to test or borrow until
> you
> can find one. At the time it helped Francesca.
>
17
I'm betting the switch as it could link to the other problem (cannot switch engine off)

Phill



> Les Harris <leslieharris@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>
> David,
>
> Intermittent starter function is almost always a result of bad
> electrical
> contacts, either in the starter switch or along the way to the solenoid.
> When I pulled mine out and bench tested it, it ran perfectly, this
> confirming that it was in the wiring, not the starter or the solenoid.
> Starter/solenoids can fail, of course, but never in the intermittent
> mode.
> If it doesn't run on the bench, then the problem is internal to the
> starter/solenoid.
>
> Les
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David
> Sent: 15 January 2012 11:38
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Starter Motor Faulty
>
> Thanks Les,
> Ill check the ignition switch out first but I have the gut feeling the
> starter motor is at fault. Auto Electrician visit tomorrow on the to do
> list. Thanks for the excellent advice
> Dave
>
> _,_._,___
18
Just make sure that he changes the bush in the gearbox. Some of them get lazy.



> David <davidleibmann@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
> Thanks Les,
> Ill check the ignition switch out first but I have the gut feeling the
> starter motor is at fault. Auto Electrician visit tomorrow on the to do
> list. Thanks for the excellent advice
> Dave
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Les Harris"
> <leslieharris@...> wrote:
> >
> > David,
> >
> > The ignition switch has the propensity to eventually gunk up and cause
> a
> > starting problem, usually intermittent but progressing to no start
> > eventually. A spare switch is a good insurance. The starter circuit
> is
> > dedicated and does not affect dash lights, etc. The problem can also
> > originate from the wiring and connections between the switch and the
> starter
> > solenoid.
> >
> > I had the same problem last year so I removed the starter and
> thoroughly
> > cleaned the terminals and coated them with Vaseline. While I was at
> it, I
> > also installed a momentary on (push) switch in the engine bay. This
> amounts
> > to a separate starter circuit and can also be useful when working on
> the
> > engine; it can be inched over to improve access to various components.
> >
> > After I had done the job, Ken posted a brilliant idea; this was to
> actually
> > solder the leads for this separate starter circuit to the tags on the
> > solenoid. The access to the starter is very poor and the solenoid is
> on top
> > of the starter so that is far worse.
> >
> > The rough running is probably Vanagon Syndrome and a separate issue.
> You
> > will get plenty of advice from other members on this.
> >
> > Les
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David
> > Sent: 15 January 2012 10:24
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Starter Motor Faulty
> >
> > If ignition switch was faulty would all normal lights on dash come on
> as
> > they are?
> > The miss is a totally other problem. When motor is driven few hours on
> > highway then sits in traffic jam for example then motor develops miss
> and
> > evenyually will stall. 10 minute cool down and away she goes again
> without a
> > miss. I believe the Americans made a extra sensor on the air filter to
> > correct this . Does anyone know if this after market part is available
> in
> > Australia? I know they cost a bit!
> > Cheers Dave
> >
19
Dave
If your motor sounds like it has full choke applied regarding the rough
running it can be caused by the temperature sensor that interfaces with the
emc unit the resistant values change with the sensed heat which then tells
the emc unit what air/fuel mix is required, if the unit goes us the problems
start
bob

-----Original Message-----
From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
plander@optusnet.com.au
Sent: Sunday, 15 January 2012 10:11 AM
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Starter Motor Faulty

Shouldn't matter. Fuel injected.



> Greg esposito <gregespo73@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> How did you turn it off. Timing to far advanced?
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: greg esposito <gregespo73@yahoo.com>
> To: "Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com"
> <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, 15 January 2012 10:06 AM
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Starter Motor Faulty
>
>
>
> ÂÂ
>
> Ignition switch for starters. Pardon the pun. Greg E
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: David <davidleibmann@yahoo.com.au>
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, 15 January 2012 9:30 AM
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Starter Motor Faulty
>
>
> ÂÂ
> Hi All,
> Went for a great drive to Diamond Beach, great beach, camping ground,
> nature, etc. On leaving engine wont start. Battery good, clicking
> sounds around motor when ignition turned on. Push jump started easily.
> I think this points to faulty stater motor or solonoid. Anyone had to
> replace/ recondition their Syncro stater motor? I tried taping starter
> with a shifter, checked all wiring however not sure if there is wiring
> on the starter motor I should check.
> Also unable to stop motor on way home and motor developed a miss what
> I believe is known as Vanagon Syndrome. I still love my Syncro. Any
> tips Cheers Dave
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All metals eventually work harden; this is caused by microscopic movement (stress) in the metal itself.  This produces local embrittlement and cracks are the result.  This is why many aircraft parts are limited to only so many hours of service life before they have to be scrapped.

Les

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Hartmut Kiehn
Sent: 15 January 2012 10:16
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Starter Motor Faulty

check the solder of the copper bits with a 1in 10 magnifier for hairline cracks.

Hartmut