suspension lift

Hi,

I'm new to the group. I run an 89 syncro with a few mods. Camper fitout, large brakes,15'' wheels
de coupler and a lot of fun. Can anyone advise on the problems of raised suspension ?
I recently fitted springs giving about 45mm lift but now experience a heavy knock when the front suspension tops out ( ie dropping into a pothole ) OME shocks fitted front.

Regards,

Mark





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mate, sounds like the assembly is wrong.

i have esikel springs and i just fitted my 2nd OME struts after 35K km of hard 4wd

and ive never experrienced a problem like you speak of

?



----- Original Message ----
From: mark hallett <m.mullet@yahoo.com.au>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, 9 September, 2008 1:59:06 PM
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] suspension lift

Hi,

I'm new to the group. I run an 89 syncro with a few mods. Camper fitout, large brakes,15'' wheels
de coupler and a lot of fun. Can anyone advise on the problems of raised suspension ?
I recently fitted springs giving about 45mm lift but now experience a heavy knock when the front suspension tops out ( ie dropping into a pothole ) OME shocks fitted front.

Regards,

Mark





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Sounds a bit like dodgy springs to me, can you confirm the springs you
fitted are designed/manufactured/approved for a syncro?

Cheers.

Ken


--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, hamish dobson
<dobson_hamish@...> wrote:
>
> mate, sounds like the assembly is wrong.
> i have esikel springs and i just fitted my 2nd OME struts after 35K km
of hard 4wd
> and ive never experrienced a problem like you speak of
> ?
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: mark hallett m.mullet@...
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, 9 September, 2008 1:59:06 PM
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] suspension lift
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm new to the group. I run an 89 syncro with a few mods. Camper
fitout, large brakes,15'' wheels
> de coupler and a lot of fun. Can anyone advise on the problems of
raised suspension ?
> I recently fitted springs giving about 45mm lift but now experience a
heavy knock when the front suspension tops out ( ie dropping into a
pothole ) OME shocks fitted front.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>
>
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springs are definitely syncro spec from gowesty in usa. bought them
when the exchange rate was good. they say many have been fitted
without problems. Could it be my shocks were rooted but not obvious
until new springs were fitted ? 40,000 k's with some rough stuff
included ?


--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, hamish dobson
<dobson_hamish@...> wrote:
>
> mate, sounds like the assembly is wrong.
> i have esikel springs and i just fitted my 2nd OME struts after 35K
km of hard 4wd
> and ive never experrienced a problem like you speak of
> ?
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: mark hallett <m.mullet@...>
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, 9 September, 2008 1:59:06 PM
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] suspension lift
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm new to the group. I run an 89 syncro with a few mods. Camper
fitout, large brakes,15'' wheels
> de coupler and a lot of fun. Can anyone advise on the problems of
raised suspension ?
> I recently fitted springs giving about 45mm lift but now experience
a heavy knock when the front suspension tops out ( ie dropping into a
pothole ) OME shocks fitted front.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>
>
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Gday Mark,

Interesting dilemma then eh. Just from memory, I don't recall Oz syncro
owners discussing here about spring mods, but they have talked about
shocks.

Reading up on the mod springs at the GoWesty site, they appear to have
made a big effort to get it right, especially sourcing from a German
manufacturer.

You would need to satisfy in your own mind whether or not there are any
other mods done or worn components in your syncro that may play some
part as well in this issue.

In answer to your comment, I would have thought, when shocks are shot,
regardless of new or old springs, you can usually tell by the way the
vehicle behaves badly, especially over bumps and offroad. So if it
wasn't a problem when you had the old springs in, then by deduction,
brings into question the performance matching of your new springs and
the existing OME shocks. At least verify that.

Cheers.

Ken




--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "m.mullet" <m.mullet@...>
wrote:
>
> springs are definitely syncro spec from gowesty in usa. bought them
> when the exchange rate was good. they say many have been fitted
> without problems. Could it be my shocks were rooted but not obvious
> until new springs were fitted ? 40,000 k's with some rough stuff
> included ?
>
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, hamish dobson
> dobson_hamish@ wrote:
> >
> > mate, sounds like the assembly is wrong.
> > i have esikel springs and i just fitted my 2nd OME struts after 35K
> km of hard 4wd
> > and ive never experrienced a problem like you speak of
> > ?
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: mark hallett m.mullet@
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, 9 September, 2008 1:59:06 PM
> > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] suspension lift
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm new to the group. I run an 89 syncro with a few mods. Camper
> fitout, large brakes,15'' wheels
> > de coupler and a lot of fun. Can anyone advise on the problems of
> raised suspension ?
> > I recently fitted springs giving about 45mm lift but now experience
> a heavy knock when the front suspension tops out ( ie dropping into a
> pothole ) OME shocks fitted front.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Gday Ken,

yeah it's a bit tricky to decide to spend the bucks on the new shocks
only to discover that wasn't it. By rocking the vehicle as hard as I
can the front doesn't seem as firm as the back. But otherwise it
handles fine. Except for the issue mentioned. Go westy have never had
an issue like this - or so they keep saying.

By the way I'm in Perth.

Cheers

Mark


--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Ken" <unclekenz@...> wrote:
>
>
> Gday Mark,
>
> Interesting dilemma then eh. Just from memory, I don't recall Oz syncro
> owners discussing here about spring mods, but they have talked about
> shocks.
>
> Reading up on the mod springs at the GoWesty site, they appear to have
> made a big effort to get it right, especially sourcing from a German
> manufacturer.
>
> You would need to satisfy in your own mind whether or not there are any
> other mods done or worn components in your syncro that may play some
> part as well in this issue.
>
> In answer to your comment, I would have thought, when shocks are shot,
> regardless of new or old springs, you can usually tell by the way the
> vehicle behaves badly, especially over bumps and offroad. So if it
> wasn't a problem when you had the old springs in, then by deduction,
> brings into question the performance matching of your new springs and
> the existing OME shocks. At least verify that.
>
> Cheers.
>
> Ken
>
>
>
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "m.mullet" <m.mullet@>
> wrote:
> >
> > springs are definitely syncro spec from gowesty in usa. bought them
> > when the exchange rate was good. they say many have been fitted
> > without problems. Could it be my shocks were rooted but not obvious
> > until new springs were fitted ? 40,000 k's with some rough stuff
> > included ?
> >
> >
> > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, hamish dobson
> > dobson_hamish@ wrote:
> > >
> > > mate, sounds like the assembly is wrong.
> > > i have esikel springs and i just fitted my 2nd OME struts after 35K
> > km of hard 4wd
> > > and ive never experrienced a problem like you speak of
> > > ?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > From: mark hallett m.mullet@
> > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Tuesday, 9 September, 2008 1:59:06 PM
> > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] suspension lift
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I'm new to the group. I run an 89 syncro with a few mods. Camper
> > fitout, large brakes,15'' wheels
> > > de coupler and a lot of fun. Can anyone advise on the problems of
> > raised suspension ?
> > > I recently fitted springs giving about 45mm lift but now experience
> > a heavy knock when the front suspension tops out ( ie dropping into a
> > pothole ) OME shocks fitted front.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Mark
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> >
>
The suspension will top out if you have lifted it by 45mm , i fitted a 10 mm spacer under the front springs and it now tops out on heavy rebound ,it needs longer shockers.
regards
Alf
----- Original Message ----
From: mark hallett <m.mullet@yahoo.com.au>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, 9 September, 2008 1:29:06 PM
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] suspension lift

Hi,

I'm new to the group. I run an 89 syncro with a few mods. Camper fitout, large brakes,15'' wheels
de coupler and a lot of fun. Can anyone advise on the problems of raised suspension ?
I recently fitted springs giving about 45mm lift but now experience a heavy knock when the front suspension tops out ( ie dropping into a pothole ) OME shocks fitted front.

Regards,

Mark





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Gday Mark,

I think Alf has just confirmed your worst fears. Unlucky the exchange
rate has fallen so far eh.

You probably would do well to also join a couple of the US Yahoo syncro
forums and glean info from members there because they are right into
suspension mods and would most likely be able to suggest a brand and
model of shocks that marry well with your mod springs. Then again,
GoWesty should be able to tell you this info.

Good luck and start saving your cents. Maybe your existing OME shocks
are still a saleable item too, to help offset the new purchase.

Cheers.

Ken


--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "m.mullet" <m.mullet@...>
wrote:
>
> Gday Ken,
>
> yeah it's a bit tricky to decide to spend the bucks on the new shocks
> only to discover that wasn't it. By rocking the vehicle as hard as I
> can the front doesn't seem as firm as the back. But otherwise it
> handles fine. Except for the issue mentioned. Go westy have never had
> an issue like this - or so they keep saying.
>
> By the way I'm in Perth.
>
> Cheers
>
> Mark
>
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Ken" unclekenz@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > Gday Mark,
> >
> > Interesting dilemma then eh. Just from memory, I don't recall Oz
syncro
> > owners discussing here about spring mods, but they have talked about
> > shocks.
> >
> > Reading up on the mod springs at the GoWesty site, they appear to
have
> > made a big effort to get it right, especially sourcing from a German
> > manufacturer.
> >
> > You would need to satisfy in your own mind whether or not there are
any
> > other mods done or worn components in your syncro that may play some
> > part as well in this issue.
> >
> > In answer to your comment, I would have thought, when shocks are
shot,
> > regardless of new or old springs, you can usually tell by the way
the
> > vehicle behaves badly, especially over bumps and offroad. So if it
> > wasn't a problem when you had the old springs in, then by deduction,
> > brings into question the performance matching of your new springs
and
> > the existing OME shocks. At least verify that.
> >
> > Cheers.
> >
> > Ken
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "m.mullet" <m.mullet@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > springs are definitely syncro spec from gowesty in usa. bought
them
> > > when the exchange rate was good. they say many have been fitted
> > > without problems. Could it be my shocks were rooted but not
obvious
> > > until new springs were fitted ? 40,000 k's with some rough stuff
> > > included ?
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, hamish dobson
> > > dobson_hamish@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > mate, sounds like the assembly is wrong.
> > > > i have esikel springs and i just fitted my 2nd OME struts after
35K
> > > km of hard 4wd
> > > > and ive never experrienced a problem like you speak of
> > > > ?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > > From: mark hallett m.mullet@
> > > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, 9 September, 2008 1:59:06 PM
> > > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] suspension lift
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I'm new to the group. I run an 89 syncro with a few mods. Camper
> > > fitout, large brakes,15'' wheels
> > > > de coupler and a lot of fun. Can anyone advise on the problems
of
> > > raised suspension ?
> > > > I recently fitted springs giving about 45mm lift but now
experience
> > > a heavy knock when the front suspension tops out ( ie dropping
into a
> > > pothole ) OME shocks fitted front.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Mark
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > >
> >
>
Is it really a problem?

I know that the rears clunked from new as the suspension topped out. Maybe the OMEs have a harder suspension stop. How are the condition of the shock rubbers/suspension bushes etc?

Phill




> m.mullet <m.mullet@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
> Gday Ken,
>
> yeah it's a bit tricky to decide to spend the bucks on the new shocks
> only to discover that wasn't it. By rocking the vehicle as hard as I
> can the front doesn't seem as firm as the back. But otherwise it
> handles fine. Except for the issue mentioned. Go westy have never had
> an issue like this - or so they keep saying.
>
> By the way I'm in Perth.
>
> Cheers
>
> Mark
>
>
>


On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 8:59 PM, mark hallett <m.mullet@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
Hi,

I'm new to the group. I run an 89 syncro with a few mods. Camper fitout, large brakes,15'' wheels
de coupler and a lot of fun. Can anyone advise on the problems of raised suspension ?
I recently fitted springs giving about 45mm lift but now experience a heavy knock when the front suspension tops out ( ie dropping into a pothole ) OME shocks fitted front.

Regards,

Mark
 
Mark,
 
It almost sounds like you do not have the shock bolted down completely on the top bushing. Can you put the van on a lift or jackstands and try to cycle the suspension?
 
I have heard of people having trouble with the cheap KYB shocks when the top bushing (bushes) get damaged easily resulting in a clunk as one drives over potholes. This has happened in newly installed shocks. The fix was re-use of the stock washer and bushings. Of course, that was in 2wd. The Syncro with it's Macpherson syle strut arrangement could be likewise afflicted.
 
There has been news of lifted Syncros "blowing out" the tops of their rear shocks when they drop into a deep pothole. The trouble there was resolved with inexpensive suspension limiting straps. To my knowledge these occured in the custom-built rebuildable South African shocks. They are supposedly designed for lifted suspensions. It's the guys using them on stock height Syncros who had this problem.
 
Have not heard of anyone having problems with the GoWesty springs with OME shocks. IIRC the GoWesty is similar to the ground breaking syncro.org springs. No knocking on the suspenson there either.
 
Here's another possibility. Is it possible that your suspension is lifted so high that the upper control arm (a-arm) is making contact with the spring on the downward movement? Balljoint spacers or custom dropped a-arms can solve that problem.
 
Regards,
 
BenT

Gday Mark,

There is an interesting ... perhaps expensive site you should at least view concerning syncro mods, including suspension lift ...............

goto: http://burleymotorsportsdirect.com/

Cheers.

Ken


--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Ken" <unclekenz@...> wrote:
>
>
> Gday Mark,
>
> I think Alf has just confirmed your worst fears. Unlucky the exchange
> rate has fallen so far eh.
>
> You probably would do well to also join a couple of the US Yahoo syncro
> forums and glean info from members there because they are right into
> suspension mods and would most likely be able to suggest a brand and
> model of shocks that marry well with your mod springs. Then again,
> GoWesty should be able to tell you this info.
>
> Good luck and start saving your cents. Maybe your existing OME shocks
> are still a saleable item too, to help offset the new purchase.
>
> Cheers.
>
> Ken
>
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "m.mullet" m.mullet@
> wrote:
> >
> > Gday Ken,
> >
> > yeah it's a bit tricky to decide to spend the bucks on the new shocks
> > only to discover that wasn't it. By rocking the vehicle as hard as I
> > can the front doesn't seem as firm as the back. But otherwise it
> > handles fine. Except for the issue mentioned. Go westy have never had
> > an issue like this - or so they keep saying.
> >
> > By the way I'm in Perth.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
> > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Ken" unclekenz@ wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Gday Mark,
> > >
> > > Interesting dilemma then eh. Just from memory, I don't recall Oz
> syncro
> > > owners discussing here about spring mods, but they have talked about
> > > shocks.
> > >
> > > Reading up on the mod springs at the GoWesty site, they appear to
> have
> > > made a big effort to get it right, especially sourcing from a German
> > > manufacturer.
> > >
> > > You would need to satisfy in your own mind whether or not there are
> any
> > > other mods done or worn components in your syncro that may play some
> > > part as well in this issue.
> > >
> > > In answer to your comment, I would have thought, when shocks are
> shot,
> > > regardless of new or old springs, you can usually tell by the way
> the
> > > vehicle behaves badly, especially over bumps and offroad. So if it
> > > wasn't a problem when you had the old springs in, then by deduction,
> > > brings into question the performance matching of your new springs
> and
> > > the existing OME shocks. At least verify that.
> > >
> > > Cheers.
> > >
> > > Ken
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "m.mullet" <m.mullet@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > springs are definitely syncro spec from gowesty in usa. bought
> them
> > > > when the exchange rate was good. they say many have been fitted
> > > > without problems. Could it be my shocks were rooted but not
> obvious
> > > > until new springs were fitted ? 40,000 k's with some rough stuff
> > > > included ?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, hamish dobson
> > > > dobson_hamish@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > mate, sounds like the assembly is wrong.
> > > > > i have esikel springs and i just fitted my 2nd OME struts after
> 35K
> > > > km of hard 4wd
> > > > > and ive never experrienced a problem like you speak of
> > > > > ?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > > > From: mark hallett m.mullet@
> > > > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, 9 September, 2008 1:59:06 PM
> > > > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] suspension lift
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm new to the group. I run an 89 syncro with a few mods. Camper
> > > > fitout, large brakes,15'' wheels
> > > > > de coupler and a lot of fun. Can anyone advise on the problems
> of
> > > > raised suspension ?
> > > > > I recently fitted springs giving about 45mm lift but now
> experience
> > > > a heavy knock when the front suspension tops out ( ie dropping
> into a
> > > > pothole ) OME shocks fitted front.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Mark
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ________________________________
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> > > > >
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> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Ken,
 
I would not feel comfortable with a vendor insists a certain part is backyard engineering when it is in competition with a part he offers. Then a couple of weeks later offer the same parts for sale. Guessing is "engineering" opinion is colored by his need to make a profit. Said example had to do with balljoint spacers which has been in use in SA and UK. Said vendor does not seem to have any patience to answer questions challenging his design. In that incidence said vendor got annoyed by forum questions regarding his custom A-arms and announced that as a consequence he will raise the price and only offer it for sale if he got paid to install the part.
 
I am but a couple of hundred miles away from this guy's shop. Relative to Oz, that's a skip in the puddle. I would hate to try to resolve issues with such a vendor from such a distance. In all fairness, I have heard the quality his products are decent. It's just the attitude I refuse to deal with.
 
 
YMMV,
 
BenT
 
 
 


 
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 4:35 PM, Ken <unclekenz@yahoo.com> wrote:

Gday Mark,

There is an interesting ... perhaps expensive site you should at least view concerning syncro mods, including suspension lift ...............

goto: http://burleymotorsportsdirect.com/

Cheers.

Ken

 
Gday BenT,

Interesting observations. With just a few exceptions, Mark being one of
them, I have the view most Oz syncro owners don't get involved in these
sorts of mods anyway, so where the truth lies and the politics of it all
that you talk about is most probably like water off a ducks back for us
here. Interesting though and I'm sure we do appreciate your input here.

From 15+ hours flying time away from your shores, I think what we do
value is being aware of and having access to T3 syncro focussed websites
supporting a range of replacement parts, maintenance information and
links, virtually all of it being offshore. In the English language as
well! It reassures us our beloved transporters are not dead yet.

Having a local website T3 focussed parts supplier, setup like Van-Cafe
or GoWesty would be an unbelievable dream come true, let alone a site
specialising in syncro mods. Never ever going to happen.

But heh BenT, life in Australia .... now that IS a dream come true!
Please don't tell anyone ok.

Cheers.

Ken




--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "BenT Syncro" <syncro@...>
wrote:
>
> Ken,
>
> I would not feel comfortable with a vendor insists a certain part is
> backyard engineering when it is in competition with a part he offers.
Then a
> couple of weeks later offer the same parts for sale. Guessing is
> "engineering" opinion is colored by his need to make a profit. Said
example
> had to do with balljoint spacers which has been in use in SA and UK.
Said
> vendor does not seem to have any patience to answer questions
challenging
> his design. In that incidence said vendor got annoyed by forum
questions
> regarding his custom A-arms and announced that as a consequence he
will
> raise the price and only offer it for sale if he got paid to install
the
> part.
>
> I am but a couple of hundred miles away from this guy's shop. Relative
to
> Oz, that's a skip in the puddle. I would hate to try to resolve issues
with
> such a vendor from such a distance. In all fairness, I have heard the
> quality his products are decent. It's just the attitude I refuse to
deal
> with.
>
>
> YMMV,
>
> BenT
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 4:35 PM, Ken unclekenz@... wrote:
>
> > Gday Mark,
> >
> > There is an interesting ... perhaps expensive site you should at
least view
> > concerning syncro mods, including suspension lift ...............
> >
> > goto: http://burleymotorsportsdirect.com/
> >
> > Cheers.
> >
> > Ken
> >
>
Hello Ken,
 
I haven't been to the AAA of Continents -- Africa, Antartica, and Australia. I hope to make it there one of these days.
Fifteen hours in the air is no problem for me. I once flew 17 hours to have dinner. Then flew back another 17 hours
less than 9 hours. I grew-up in one continent have adopted this one. Think about it as Oz in summer and Europe in the
winter. But the real reason I love it here is because the car is still king in California. Both Van-Cafe and GoWesty are
practically in my backyard. In fact the company which imports parts for both of those places is even closer. The builder
of the infamous SyncroMog is just a few mnutes away from that place. Talk about Syncro specialists, John Wessels is
unrivaled in California, IMHO. T3 parts funnel their way here from no less han 5 continents -- including Australia (ARB,
OME, etc.). We are lucky that way.  
 
 
Cheers,
 
BenT


 
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 8:05 PM, Ken <unclekenz@yahoo.com> wrote:

Gday BenT,

Interesting observations. With just a few exceptions, Mark being one of
them, I have the view most Oz syncro owners don't get involved in these
sorts of mods anyway, so where the truth lies and the politics of it all
that you talk about is most probably like water off a ducks back for us
here. Interesting though and I'm sure we do appreciate your input here.

From 15+ hours flying time away from your shores, I think what we do
value is being aware of and having access to T3 syncro focussed websites
supporting a range of replacement parts, maintenance information and
links, virtually all of it being offshore. In the English language as
well! It reassures us our beloved transporters are not dead yet.

Having a local website T3 focussed parts supplier, setup like Van-Cafe
or GoWesty would be an unbelievable dream come true, let alone a site
specialising in syncro mods. Never ever going to happen.

But heh BenT, life in Australia .... now that IS a dream come true!
Please don't tell anyone ok.

Cheers.

Ken
Hi All
 
The upper ball joint spacer is a very good idear, i have been looking for some thing like that so i can get the wheel alinment back again, after lifting front .
 
Regards
Alf

----- Original Message ----
From: BenT Syncro <syncro@gmail.com>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 17 September, 2008 10:13:04 AM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: suspension lift

Ken,
 
I would not feel comfortable with a vendor insists a certain part is backyard engineering when it is in competition with a part he offers.. Then a couple of weeks later offer the same parts for sale. Guessing is "engineering" opinion is colored by his need to make a profit. Said example had to do with balljoint spacers which has been in use in SA and UK. Said vendor does not seem to have any patience to answer questions challenging his design. In that incidence said vendor got annoyed by forum questions regarding his custom A-arms and announced that as a consequence he will raise the price and only offer it for sale if he got paid to install the part.
 
I am but a couple of hundred miles away from this guy's shop. Relative to Oz, that's a skip in the puddle. I would hate to try to resolve issues with such a vendor from such a distance. In all fairness, I have heard the quality his products are decent. It's just the attitude I refuse to deal with.
 
 
YMMV,
 
BenT
 
 
 


 
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 4:35 PM, Ken <unclekenz@yahoo. com> wrote:

Gday Mark,

There is an interesting ... perhaps expensive site you should at least view concerning syncro mods, including suspension lift ............ ...

goto: http://burleymotors portsdirect. com/

Cheers.

Ken

 


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Gday BenT,

AAA continents eh. Nah, in my minds eye, I picture you as somewhat of a
visionary mover and shaker. Why hold back?

I see you bending Sir Richard Bransons arm and piggy-backing yourself
and 16" syncro on his Virgin Galactic tour of the moon. Rich will hang
about while you navigate the syncro around the outline of the bunny
rabbit, streaming video and commentary all the while of a truly
historical and unique syncro experience.

Sir Richard, I think you've met your match ..........

Cheers.

Ken

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "BenT Syncro" <syncro@...>
wrote:
>
> Hello Ken,
>
> I haven't been to the AAA of Continents -- Africa, Antartica, and
> Australia. I hope to make it there one of these days.
> Fifteen hours in the air is no problem for me. I once flew 17 hours to
have
> dinner. Then flew back another 17 hours
> less than 9 hours. I grew-up in one continent have adopted this one.
Think
> about it as Oz in summer and Europe in the
> winter. But the real reason I love it here is because the car is still
king
> in California. Both Van-Cafe and GoWesty are
> practically in my backyard. In fact the company which imports parts
for both
> of those places is even closer. The builder
> of the infamous SyncroMog is just a few mnutes away from that place.
Talk
> about Syncro specialists, John Wessels is
> unrivaled in California, IMHO. T3 parts funnel their way here from no
less
> han 5 continents -- including Australia (ARB,
> OME, etc.). We are lucky that way.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> BenT
> www.vanagoncafe.com
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 8:05 PM, Ken unclekenz@... wrote:
>
> >
> > Gday BenT,
> >
> > Interesting observations. With just a few exceptions, Mark being one
of
> > them, I have the view most Oz syncro owners don't get involved in
these
> > sorts of mods anyway, so where the truth lies and the politics of it
all
> > that you talk about is most probably like water off a ducks back for
us
> > here. Interesting though and I'm sure we do appreciate your input
here.
> >
> > From 15+ hours flying time away from your shores, I think what we do
> > value is being aware of and having access to T3 syncro focussed
websites
> > supporting a range of replacement parts, maintenance information and
> > links, virtually all of it being offshore. In the English language
as
> > well! It reassures us our beloved transporters are not dead yet.
> >
> > Having a local website T3 focussed parts supplier, setup like
Van-Cafe
> > or GoWesty would be an unbelievable dream come true, let alone a
site
> > specialising in syncro mods. Never ever going to happen.
> >
> > But heh BenT, life in Australia .... now that IS a dream come true!
> > Please don't tell anyone ok.
> >
> > Cheers.
> >
> > Ken
>
Hello Ken,
 
The moon would be a cool place to tool around in a Syncro. Afterall a VW Buggy inspired
vehicle is still out there, isn't it? Do you think Hugh Hefner will sponsor me if I promise to
do the bunny outline? Or maybe VW? Nah...
 
 
Cheers,
 
BenT
 
 
 
We speak eYou call your money is called a dollar.
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 12:58 AM, Ken <unclekenz@yahoo.com> wrote:

Gday BenT,

AAA continents eh. Nah, in my minds eye, I picture you as somewhat of a
visionary mover and shaker. Why hold back?

I see you bending Sir Richard Bransons arm and piggy-backing yourself
and 16" syncro on his Virgin Galactic tour of the moon. Rich will hang
about while you navigate the syncro around the outline of the bunny
rabbit, streaming video and commentary all the while of a truly
historical and unique syncro experience.

Sir Richard, I think you've met your match ..........

Cheers.

Ken

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "BenT Syncro" <syncro@...>
wrote:
>
> Hello Ken,
>
> I haven't been to the AAA of Continents -- Africa, Antartica, and
> Australia. I hope to make it there one of these days.
> Fifteen hours in the air is no problem for me. I once flew 17 hours to
have
> dinner. Then flew back another 17 hours
> less than 9 hours. I grew-up in one continent have adopted this one.
Think
> about it as Oz in summer and Europe in the
> winter. But the real reason I love it here is because the car is still
king
> in California. Both Van-Cafe and GoWesty are
> practically in my backyard. In fact the company which imports parts
for both
> of those places is even closer. The builder
> of the infamous SyncroMog is just a few mnutes away from that place.
Talk
> about Syncro specialists, John Wessels is
> unrivaled in California, IMHO. T3 parts funnel their way here from no
less
> han 5 continents -- including Australia (ARB,
> OME, etc.). We are lucky that way.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> BenT
> www.vanagoncafe.com
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 8:05 PM, Ken unclekenz@... wrote:
>
> >
> > Gday BenT,
> >
> > Interesting observations. With just a few exceptions, Mark being one
of
> > them, I have the view most Oz syncro owners don't get involved in
these
> > sorts of mods anyway, so where the truth lies and the politics of it
all
> > that you talk about is most probably like water off a ducks back for
us
> > here. Interesting though and I'm sure we do appreciate your input
here.
> >
> > From 15+ hours flying time away from your shores, I think what we do
> > value is being aware of and having access to T3 syncro focussed
websites
> > supporting a range of replacement parts, maintenance information and
> > links, virtually all of it being offshore. In the English language
as
> > well! It reassures us our beloved transporters are not dead yet.
> >
> > Having a local website T3 focussed parts supplier, setup like
Van-Cafe
> > or GoWesty would be an unbelievable dream come true, let alone a
site
> > specialising in syncro mods. Never ever going to happen.
> >
> > But heh BenT, life in Australia .... now that IS a dream come true!
> > Please don't tell anyone ok.
> >
> > Cheers.
> >
> > Ken
>



 
 


On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 1:44 AM, BenT Syncro <syncro@gmail.com> wrote: 
 
We speak eYou call your money is called a dollar.
 
 
Gee, how did that get there? Sorry folks. That's what happens when you try to type two different emails at the same time.
Damned cut & paste finger slipped again.
 
 
BenT
Hi Alf,
 
The bushing spacers has been available for some time from SA and European Syncro parst vendors. Most recently, some have experimented with adding and angle on the spacer to correct the geometry even better. The jury is still out on that one though.
 
I do understand that custom A-arms with dropped balljoint seats as pioneered on T3 Syncros by John Wessels on the infamous
SyncroMog. (BTW, SyncroMog is currently for sale). It's just they are too expensive for most people. Besides the majority of Syncro owners are not likely modifying their
suspension to the point where such a devise is necessary.
 
Stuart on the SyncroSA Yahoo Forum was offering balljoint spacers not too long ago. IIRC, Simon Baxter at the Brickworks in the 
UK had these before too. I would try Russel at syncronutz also in the UK as well.
 
 
Regards,
 
BenT
 

On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 3:38 AM, alf ando <dansk53bus@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
Hi All
 
The upper ball joint spacer is a very good idear, i have been looking for some thing like that so i can get the wheel alinment back again, after lifting front .
 
Regards
Alf

----- Original Message ----
From: BenT Syncro <syncro@gmail.com>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 17 September, 2008 10:13:04 AM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: suspension lift

Ken,
 
I would not feel comfortable with a vendor insists a certain part is backyard engineering when it is in competition with a part he offers.. Then a couple of weeks later offer the same parts for sale. Guessing is "engineering" opinion is colored by his need to make a profit. Said example had to do with balljoint spacers which has been in use in SA and UK. Said vendor does not seem to have any patience to answer questions challenging his design. In that incidence said vendor got annoyed by forum questions regarding his custom A-arms and announced that as a consequence he will raise the price and only offer it for sale if he got paid to install the part.
 
I am but a couple of hundred miles away from this guy's shop. Relative to Oz, that's a skip in the puddle. I would hate to try to resolve issues with such a vendor from such a distance. In all fairness, I have heard the quality his products are decent. It's just the attitude I refuse to deal with.
 
 
YMMV,
 
BenT
 
 
 


 
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 4:35 PM, Ken <unclekenz@yahoo. com> wrote:

Gday Mark,

There is an interesting ... perhaps expensive site you should at least view concerning syncro mods, including suspension lift ............ ...

goto: http://burleymotors portsdirect. com/

Cheers.

Ken

 



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Hi BenT

 

Thank you very much for that information.

 

Regards

Alf



----- Original Message ----
From: BenT Syncro <syncro@gmail.com>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com; dansk53bus@yahoo.com.au
Sent: Thursday, 18 September, 2008 6:34:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: suspension lift

Hi Alf,
 
The bushing spacers has been available for some time from SA and European Syncro parst vendors. Most recently, some have experimented with adding and angle on the spacer to correct the geometry even better. The jury is still out on that one though.
 
I do understand that custom A-arms with dropped balljoint seats as pioneered on T3 Syncros by John Wessels on the infamous
SyncroMog. (BTW, SyncroMog is currently for sale). It's just they are too expensive for most people. Besides the majority of Syncro owners are not likely modifying their
suspension to the point where such a devise is necessary.
 
Stuart on the SyncroSA Yahoo Forum was offering balljoint spacers not too long ago. IIRC, Simon Baxter at the Brickworks in the 
UK had these before too. I would try Russel at syncronutz also in the UK as well.
 
 
Regards,
 
BenT
 

On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 3:38 AM, alf ando <dansk53bus@yahoo. com.au> wrote:
Hi All
 
The upper ball joint spacer is a very good idear, i have been looking for some thing like that so i can get the wheel alinment back again, after lifting front .
 
Regards
Alf

----- Original Message ----
From: BenT Syncro <syncro@gmail. com>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wednesday, 17 September, 2008 10:13:04 AM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Re: suspension lift

Ken,
 
I would not feel comfortable with a vendor insists a certain part is backyard engineering when it is in competition with a part he offers.. Then a couple of weeks later offer the same parts for sale. Guessing is "engineering" opinion is colored by his need to make a profit. Said example had to do with balljoint spacers which has been in use in SA and UK. Said vendor does not seem to have any patience to answer questions challenging his design. In that incidence said vendor got annoyed by forum questions regarding his custom A-arms and announced that as a consequence he will raise the price and only offer it for sale if he got paid to install the part.
 
I am but a couple of hundred miles away from this guy's shop. Relative to Oz, that's a skip in the puddle. I would hate to try to resolve issues with such a vendor from such a distance. In all fairness, I have heard the quality his products are decent. It's just the attitude I refuse to deal with.
 
 
YMMV,
 
BenT
 
 
 


 
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 4:35 PM, Ken <unclekenz@yahoo. com> wrote:

Gday Mark,

There is an interesting ... perhaps expensive site you should at least view concerning syncro mods, including suspension lift ............ ...

goto: http://burleymotors portsdirect. com/

Cheers.

Ken

 



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