Greg,no, I think getting some made here is the go.
Did you give the
manufacturers the 2wd and the Syncro springs,to go off?
What is the name of
the company you used?
BenC
--- In
Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com,
greg esposito <gregespo73@...> wrote:
>
> Ben, not
progressive. Progressive springs for the front of a synco would have tighter
coils at one end. I don't think these buses need progressive springs.
Will let you know final ride height. The spring guys I used knew thier stuff.
I suppose you have the added need to compensate for the heavier donk, so stiff
rears would be a good idea. Are you think about a set from America? Greg
E
>
>
> From: Ben <bencroft96@...>
> To:
Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 31 August 2011 9:45 PM
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia]
Re: suspension upgrades
>
>
> Â
>
>
Thank Greg,good comparison.
> The new spring looks just right.You should
get good lift and nice firm ride(better than the 2wd springs).
> Are
these new springs progressive?
> Look foward to seeing some photos and a
report on how they go when they are fitted.
> I have put lifting mine
off till next year as I am running out of time this year(again).
>
BenC
>
> --- In
Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com,
greg esposito <gregespo73@> wrote:
> >
> > Hey Ben,
hope this thread is not too old to resurrect. I have finally had enough time
to get my springs made. I thought you might like to see how small the
difference is pre installation.
> > The middle spring is a 2wd std
spring, the spring on the right is the original syncro spring.ÂÂ
Obviously the spring on the left is the new spring. Its wire is
18mm thick as opposed to the other springs both being 16.5mm. As you
can see it is slightly longer than the syncro spring and slightly shorter than
the 2wd spring. I don't know how much help this will be considering
yours is a tin top. I suppose the big decision is whether you want to go up
the wire thickness and have a firmer ride. If not try the 2wd springs, they
lifted even my heavy camper. I will let you know how my new ones work out once
I fit them. I am doing the whole front end up in one hit so it won't be too
soon. Greg E
> >
> >
> > From: greg esposito
<gregespo73@>
> > To: "
Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com"
<
Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com>
>
> Sent: Monday, 25 July 2011 10:54 PM
> > Subject: Re:
[Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: suspension upgrades
> >
> >
> > Ben, standard rubber OE castor bushes(jk) and stainless
sleeves(go w).
> > Spacer goes between top control arm and ball
joint(go w).
> > Porsche cv's are too expensive for my wallet. If you
stay under 52cm hub to fender standards are o.k.
> > Spring man - I
am in Melbourne, there must be a good one in Sydney. Anyone?
> > And
of course a four wheel alignment when all is done.
> > Eddie has a
good point how much room do you have with the 65's on the rear?
> >
At worst longer studs and a 5-8mm spacer or differant rims.
> > Greg
E
> >
> > From: Ben <bencroft96@>
> > To:
Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, 25 July 2011 9:46 PM
> > Subject:
[Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: suspension upgrades
> >
> >
> > ÂÂ
> >
> > Thankyou Greg now THAT was
the inspiration that Ive been looking for!I do want to do this!I have been
working hard and saving my money(stashing it).I will go up to 70 series when I
next need tyres,my Yokis havent worn much in two years.
> > I will
order new castor bushes tommorrow,are you using standard or poly?
> >
Do you know of a spring manufacturer?
> > How soon are you doing
this?,this year?
> > A arm spacers??are you talking about ball joint
spacers?
> > Are you thinking about Porsche CVs?
> > Thanks
heaps Greg.
> > BenC
> >
> > --- In
Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com,
"gregespo73" <gregespo73@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
Ben, don't get me wrong I would definatly raise the old girl. I am just saying
shock extenders are not needed. I am running 2wd springs which are too soft
but the static hieght is perfect(51-52mm). My advise is this, 215/70 16 bf's,
new castor bushes (and sleeves), a arm spacers and have some springs made for
the front. The rear just make some spacers (two 12mm should be about right
with a subi). Making the front springs correctly is the hard part. I will be
doing this soon myself. I am going to take in the original spring as a guide.
These are purported to be 75kg/cm in tension. If you tell the spring maker to
increase the ride hieght by 5cms and tell them how much the van weighs they
should be able to make it close to spot on. I will be also increasing the
tension as I have a camper. You could go standard or slightly higher - say
85kg/cms. Greg E
> > >
> > > --- In
Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com,
"Ben" <bencroft96@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
Gday Greg(and BenT),thanks for the correction,should get some of my old tech
books out one day,(if time ever permits).
> > > > Greg thanks
for the tips,seems like raising the suspension is not worth the
headaches.
> > > > Are you running the standard
springs?
> > > > BenC
> > > >
> > >
> --- In
Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com,
greg esposito <gregespo73@> wrote:
> > > > >
>
> > > > Hey Ben, I am running 225/70 16. I would have gone 215/70
16 if I had known how close they would be to the front fender. I
have increased my positive castor above the factory specs to stop the tyre
rubbing on the rhf mud spat. This did not cause any drivability
issues. If you have not already, I would recommend replacing
castor bushes before starting the whole measuring process. Tyre size is more
about guard clearance than ride height on the front of a t3. I have also
fitted the go westy A arm spacer to keep the camber right. This
causes the need for a slightly bigger full compression
stop. Shock extenders will cause a pandoras box of other issues.
They will increase the amount of sag or rebound travel you have, which is
great, only if your arm geometry and cv joint can cope with the
increased angle. They may or may not reduce the compression travel depending
on the type used. What ever mod
> you do a good acid test
is to bolt
> > the front end up minus
> > > > > the
spring you can then fully extend and compress the suspension whilst turning
the hub and operating the steering lock to lock. Try it first without the
wheel than with. As far as the rear goes my 225/70's are as big as you can go
with 14" trailing arms and the square profile of bfg all terrains. Just by
fitting ome rear shocks you will have increased your rear suspension travel as
far as standard cv's can go. Greg E
> > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > From: Ben
<bencroft96@>
> > > > > To:
Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Monday, 25 July 2011 6:23 PM
> > > >
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: suspension upgrades
> > >
> >
> > > > >
> > > > >
ÂÂÂ
> > > > >
> > > > >
Mark,thanks for your report.My bus is not a camper,so right now am looking at
other options to get a bit more height.
> > > > > Re shock
extenders,I found a few manufactuers by google and having a read
> >
> > >
http://www.jcwhitney.com/shocks-and-struts/volkswagen-vanagon/c12548d14387j1s21.jcwx>
> > > > is one.
> > > > > I have 16 inch rims so
I think 75 series tyres are out of the question without raising the
suspension.
> > > > > I would like to hear from anyone
running 16 inch rims with large tyres,to know if there is any scrubbing
issues.
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
BenC
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In
Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com,
"m.mullet" <m.mullet@> wrote:
> > > > > >
>
> > > > > Hi Ben,
> > > > > >
>
> > > > > I run GW springs and OME shocks on a converted and
fairly light camper.
> > > > > > I don't mind the ride at
all, although I may drop tyre pressure when not fully loaded. Front shocks top
out fairly easily. If you come up with some extenders let me know.
>
> > > > > Otherwise you may find you eat a few more cv's,
especially the rear.
> > > > > > Overall not a bad setup.
If I had my time again I would probably stay with standard suspension and run
225/175/15 tyres as a cheaper way to
> > > > > > get more
clearance.
> > > > > > Only downside there is increased
gearing.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
Cheers,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
Mark
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> >
> >
> > >
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