syncro driveshaft

41
Hey Scott, the problem re the injection is that it is common rail diesel. So basically a fuel rail and injectors simillar to efi. A lot higher pressure though. Some have a fuel pump mounted where the previous generation engine had an injector pump, so they would be easier. This subi engine to my knowledge has only ever been common rail so probably not a possibility. Greg E

From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <ScottDaniel@turbovans.com>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 28 April, 2011 3:38:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: syncro driveshaft

 



hi..
yes, that's it, though I don't see much in that forum discussion about Subaru boxer diesel engine.
 
and you're right .............what you write below ..
no one has cracked it yet that I know of.
 
how about this..
use vw tdi electronics and electronically controlled vw tdi  injection pump to run one.
Displacement is about the same .,...........should work.
getting the drive and timing to the injection pump would be the hardest part ..
the rest has been done many, many times. ...VW tdi's run with electronic controls in other vehicles, like T3 vans.
 
If the guy sends me an engine I'll look into it.
it'll be a hybrid ..
Subaru engine, VW tdi fuel system.
Scott
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 10:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: syncro driveshaft

 

Is this the guy?
 
The problem is most manufactures are now using a can bus system. This combined with the fact that traditional diesel injection pumps cannot be mounted on the engine makes a conversion very hard. That is tricking the engine control unit into thinking there are many other control units hooked into the can bus when they are not. Greg E

From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <ScottDaniel@turbovans.com>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 28 April, 2011 3:05:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: syncro driveshaft

 

I have not heard yet that anyone has a Subaru boxer four diesel engine running in a T3  Van.
.
Not anywhere, not even in Europe....and not in the US yet.
 
Just this one guy who has some engines for sale for $ 13,000 US ( ! ) ...and he's 'working on getting one going in a T3 van' ..last I heard.
 
if anyone knows more than that ..
let's hear it !
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Ben
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 8:26 PM
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: syncro driveshaft

 

Re Subaru diesel.Yes they will be very popular.Only one or two running around in the States.I believe,BenT or Turbovans could confirm.
In the states the pick was(when I was researching) still the earlier ej22 as it is in abundance over there,plus they are all tight,trying to do there conversions on the cheap.Others seem to go down the H6 path which would be nice,but I definatley would loose my licence then.
The ej25 out of an Aussie outback is a good one for us Aussies,as there are heaps available and the wiring isnt as complicated as post 2001 models,although there is still an immobilizer,which is not that much of an issue.A very smooth and torquey engine.
--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, plander@... wrote:
>
> Surely the importer at Mortdale could get, or would have the bits?
>
> Phill
>
> I reckon the Subaru diesels will be popular donors.
>
>
>
> > Mr Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@...> wrote:
> >
> > Yes Ben.
> >
> > I am planning to do it still but need to source some parts first.
> >
> > At one stage I was thinking of a small turbo diesel but from all reports
> > they are too much of a slug for my liking and cant handle hills with a
> > full load of family and camping gear.
> >
> > I will be quizzing you at the Nationals no doubt.
> >
> > My suby is still going strong and has been since early February - just
> > that stupid extremely hard to get sensor that was the problem. Amazing
> > how a $200 part can stuff your whole engine.
> >
> > Time to get a donk that is easy to get parts for!!
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Skot
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Ben
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 12:38 PM
> > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: syncro driveshaft
> >
> >
> >
> > Skott,The Subaru hasnt missed a beat.I have travelled over 10000kms
> > now.No oil or coolant leaks.I have changed the oil twice now since the
> > conversion.The engine did settle and the engine cradle was hitting on
> > the alluminium sump causing a growl.I adjusted this and havent had a
> > problem since.I am getting 12l per 100kms when I drive it like a bus.I
> > still laugh as I overtake cars uphill.
> > Yes,I will be a the Nationals,I am looking foward to it.I hope to have
> > my Big brakes by then.
> > How is your Suby,since the Christmas troubles?Is there still thoughts
> > of changining to an ej25?
> > BenC
> >
> > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Mr Scott Pitcher"
> > <spbconsulting@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Ben,
> > >
> > > How is the Scooby donk travelling?
> > >
> > > Try Clint's Crazy Bargains - I have found a few reasonable cheap
> > crap tools there that sort of work. My nail punches are mainly all still
> > alive but only through lack of use.
> > >
> > > Occasionally Aldi pops up with some laser levels. Keep an eye out. I
> > will let you know if I come across any.
> > >
> > > Are you heading to the Nationals this year?
> > >
> > > Mel wants to put the syncro in again - although I don't really care.
> > We are bringing down both the syncro and the 71 so she can bring the
> > syncro down early.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Skot
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Ben
> > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 10:40 AM
> > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: syncro driveshaft
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Good question Hart.
> > > I still experience vibration with the decoupler decoupled.If
> > anything my vibration is slightly better with the decoupler coupled.The
> > only way I can rid of my vibration(120km)is to remove the shaft
> > altogether.
> > > After purchasing a new shaft and having it balanced twice since I
> > bought it,I am now of the opinion that the angles of the transaxle/front
> > diff are incorrect.I am going to laser allign these and space the engine
> > bar to correct these angles.
> > > I have tried the loosen front diff mount method,I have replaced the
> > rubber mounts at the front diff.
> > > Anyone know where I can purchase a cheap laser pointer?
> > > BenC
> > >
> > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Hartmut Kiehn <hartis@>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > All,
> > > >
> > > > 'in the end i fitted a decoupler' --- for the benefit of newer
> > members, what Alf actually fitted , was a VC ( viscous coupling ).
> > However, there maybe is
> > > >
> > > > merit in this and we should maybe ask the question, if anybody who
> > suffered vibrations had a DC (decoupler ) fitted. Would be of interest.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > What are your thoughts on this ? Hart
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > > From: dansk53bus@
> > > > Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 03:34:30 -0700
> > > > Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] syncro driveshaft
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi I tryed for month to fix the wibration in my syncro and in the
> > end i fitted a decoupler, i think your decoupler has gone hard since you
> > took the shaft of
> > > > Regards Alf
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: gkresto <gkresto@>
> > > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Tue, 26 April, 2011 4:11:11 PM
> > > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] syncro driveshaft
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I took the Drive shaft off, for economy, a few years ago and
> > didn't mark the position. I put it back on a few days ago and it
> > vibrates like crazy at 55-70 k's. VC works well. How can I sort this
> > out? Any information gratefully received. Rubber absorber at the rear
> > ok?
> > > > Do I just have to keep trying on numerous bolt holes until it
> > works?
> > > > I have access to another shaft a few hours south. Any use?
> > > >
> > > > When I took it off, it was working fine other than a slight
> > vibration at 60kmh.
> > > > Thanks, Geoff
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

42

hi Greg,
perhaps.
and even if a less evolved diesel fuel system and injectors could be adapted........
It's likely that some of the low emissions combined with great power and good fuel economy would be lost.
Like it could run, but maybe not like it's really supposed to.
 
never say never of course , and diesel engines are modified all kinds of ways, just like gasoline ones are.
 
it's just an internal combustion engine after all, not like it's a whole new invention or anything like that really.  
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 11:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: syncro driveshaft

 

Hey Scott, the problem re the injection is that it is common rail diesel. So basically a fuel rail and injectors simillar to efi. A lot higher pressure though. Some have a fuel pump mounted where the previous generation engine had an injector pump, so they would be easier. This subi engine to my knowledge has only ever been common rail so probably not a possibility. Greg E

From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <ScottDaniel@turbovans.com>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 28 April, 2011 3:38:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: syncro driveshaft

 



hi..
yes, that's it, though I don't see much in that forum discussion about Subaru boxer diesel engine.
 
and you're right .............what you write below ..
no one has cracked it yet that I know of.
 
how about this..
use vw tdi electronics and electronically controlled vw tdi  injection pump to run one.
Displacement is about the same .,...........should work.
getting the drive and timing to the injection pump would be the hardest part ..
the rest has been done many, many times. ...VW tdi's run with electronic controls in other vehicles, like T3 vans.
 
If the guy sends me an engine I'll look into it.
it'll be a hybrid ..
Subaru engine, VW tdi fuel system.
Scott
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 10:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: syncro driveshaft

 

Is this the guy?
 
The problem is most manufactures are now using a can bus system. This combined with the fact that traditional diesel injection pumps cannot be mounted on the engine makes a conversion very hard. That is tricking the engine control unit into thinking there are many other control units hooked into the can bus when they are not. Greg E

From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <ScottDaniel@turbovans.com>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 28 April, 2011 3:05:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: syncro driveshaft

 

I have not heard yet that anyone has a Subaru boxer four diesel engine running in a T3  Van.
.
Not anywhere, not even in Europe....and not in the US yet.
 
Just this one guy who has some engines for sale for $ 13,000 US ( ! ) ...and he's 'working on getting one going in a T3 van' ..last I heard.
 
if anyone knows more than that ..
let's hear it !
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Ben
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 8:26 PM
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: syncro driveshaft

 

Re Subaru diesel.Yes they will be very popular.Only one or two running around in the States.I believe,BenT or Turbovans could confirm.
In the states the pick was(when I was researching) still the earlier ej22 as it is in abundance over there,plus they are all tight,trying to do there conversions on the cheap.Others seem to go down the H6 path which would be nice,but I definatley would loose my licence then.
The ej25 out of an Aussie outback is a good one for us Aussies,as there are heaps available and the wiring isnt as complicated as post 2001 models,although there is still an immobilizer,which is not that much of an issue.A very smooth and torquey engine.
--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, plander@... wrote:
>
> Surely the importer at Mortdale could get, or would have the bits?
>
> Phill
>
> I reckon the Subaru diesels will be popular donors.
>
>
>
> > Mr Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@...> wrote:
> >
> > Yes Ben.
> >
> > I am planning to do it still but need to source some parts first.
> >
> > At one stage I was thinking of a small turbo diesel but from all reports
> > they are too much of a slug for my liking and cant handle hills with a
> > full load of family and camping gear.
> >
> > I will be quizzing you at the Nationals no doubt.
> >
> > My suby is still going strong and has been since early February - just
> > that stupid extremely hard to get sensor that was the problem. Amazing
> > how a $200 part can stuff your whole engine.
> >
> > Time to get a donk that is easy to get parts for!!
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Skot
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Ben
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 12:38 PM
> > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: syncro driveshaft
> >
> >
> >
> > Skott,The Subaru hasnt missed a beat.I have travelled over 10000kms
> > now.No oil or coolant leaks.I have changed the oil twice now since the
> > conversion.The engine did settle and the engine cradle was hitting on
> > the alluminium sump causing a growl.I adjusted this and havent had a
> > problem since.I am getting 12l per 100kms when I drive it like a bus.I
> > still laugh as I overtake cars uphill.
> > Yes,I will be a the Nationals,I am looking foward to it.I hope to have
> > my Big brakes by then.
> > How is your Suby,since the Christmas troubles?Is there still thoughts
> > of changining to an ej25?
> > BenC
> >
> > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Mr Scott Pitcher"
> > <spbconsulting@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Ben,
> > >
> > > How is the Scooby donk travelling?
> > >
> > > Try Clint's Crazy Bargains - I have found a few reasonable cheap
> > crap tools there that sort of work. My nail punches are mainly all still
> > alive but only through lack of use.
> > >
> > > Occasionally Aldi pops up with some laser levels. Keep an eye out. I
> > will let you know if I come across any.
> > >
> > > Are you heading to the Nationals this year?
> > >
> > > Mel wants to put the syncro in again - although I don't really care.
> > We are bringing down both the syncro and the 71 so she can bring the
> > syncro down early.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Skot
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Ben
> > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 10:40 AM
> > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: syncro driveshaft
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Good question Hart.
> > > I still experience vibration with the decoupler decoupled.If
> > anything my vibration is slightly better with the decoupler coupled.The
> > only way I can rid of my vibration(120km)is to remove the shaft
> > altogether.
> > > After purchasing a new shaft and having it balanced twice since I
> > bought it,I am now of the opinion that the angles of the transaxle/front
> > diff are incorrect.I am going to laser allign these and space the engine
> > bar to correct these angles.
> > > I have tried the loosen front diff mount method,I have replaced the
> > rubber mounts at the front diff.
> > > Anyone know where I can purchase a cheap laser pointer?
> > > BenC
> > >
> > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Hartmut Kiehn <hartis@>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > All,
> > > >
> > > > 'in the end i fitted a decoupler' --- for the benefit of newer
> > members, what Alf actually fitted , was a VC ( viscous coupling ).
> > However, there maybe is
> > > >
> > > > merit in this and we should maybe ask the question, if anybody who
> > suffered vibrations had a DC (decoupler ) fitted. Would be of interest.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > What are your thoughts on this ? Hart
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > > From: dansk53bus@
> > > > Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 03:34:30 -0700
> > > > Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] syncro driveshaft
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi I tryed for month to fix the wibration in my syncro and in the
> > end i fitted a decoupler, i think your decoupler has gone hard since you
> > took the shaft of
> > > > Regards Alf
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: gkresto <gkresto@>
> > > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Tue, 26 April, 2011 4:11:11 PM
> > > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] syncro driveshaft
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I took the Drive shaft off, for economy, a few years ago and
> > didn't mark the position. I put it back on a few days ago and it
> > vibrates like crazy at 55-70 k's. VC works well. How can I sort this
> > out? Any information gratefully received. Rubber absorber at the rear
> > ok?
> > > > Do I just have to keep trying on numerous bolt holes until it
> > works?
> > > > I have access to another shaft a few hours south. Any use?
> > > >
> > > > When I took it off, it was working fine other than a slight
> > vibration at 60kmh.
> > > > Thanks, Geoff
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

43
Ben,to answer to your question

About two days before this noise was first noticed, I crossed a river with a very steep approach and slightly less steep departure angle. On the departure the rear end bottomed out on the ground/rock with a loud bang. Got out to check for damage,nothing visible, put it down to the tow bar bottoming out on the steepish departure angle. Brian is of the opinion that maybe the engine mounts may have been knock out of kilter setting up a possible vibration/tapping/knocking sound. This sound is not present with engine idling or cruising along at say 75kmp along the flat, but as soon as the engine is under load in come the pots and pans. Get to the top of the hill and coast down or put in the clutch or put her into Gods gear and noise gone.

On 28 April 2011 13:13, Ben <bencroft96@yahoo.com> wrote:

Micheal,the Smallcar engine cradle uses the VW enginebar(moustach bar),VW engine mounts.It then wraps around the aftermarket alluminium sump and bolts to the Subaru engine mountings(Subaru crankcase) with small clearance.It is totally different to the original VW set-up.
Maybe your mounts are in need of replacement,but I dont think it would cause your pots and pans.
Does your noise changes with engine or road speed?



--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Michael Rayner <mallaner@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Ben
>
> *"The engine did settle and the engine cradle was hitting on the alluminium
> sump causing a growl.I adjusted this and havent had a problem since"*
> *
> *
> Could this be a possible cause for the rattle I'm trying to solve on my MV
> motor. Are there similarities between the setup of the two different
> engines???? By the way I'm not coming up to Sydney this weekend, car is
> still with mechanic. It's driving him mad.
>
> On 28 April 2011 12:38, Ben <bencroft96@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Skott,The Subaru hasnt missed a beat.I have travelled over 10000kms now.No
> > oil or coolant leaks.I have changed the oil twice now since the
> > conversion.The engine did settle and the engine cradle was hitting on the
> > alluminium sump causing a growl.I adjusted this and havent had a problem
> > since.I am getting 12l per 100kms when I drive it like a bus.I still laugh
> > as I overtake cars uphill.
> > Yes,I will be a the Nationals,I am looking foward to it.I hope to have my
> > Big brakes by then.
> > How is your Suby,since the Christmas troubles?Is there still thoughts of
> > changining to an ej25?
> > BenC
> >
> >
> > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Mr Scott Pitcher"
> > <spbconsulting@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Ben,
> > >
> > > How is the Scooby donk travelling?
> > >
> > > Try Clint's Crazy Bargains - I have found a few reasonable cheap crap
> > tools there that sort of work. My nail punches are mainly all still alive
> > but only through lack of use.
> > >
> > > Occasionally Aldi pops up with some laser levels. Keep an eye out. I will
> > let you know if I come across any.
> > >
> > > Are you heading to the Nationals this year?
> > >
> > > Mel wants to put the syncro in again - although I don't really care. We
> > are bringing down both the syncro and the 71 so she can bring the syncro
> > down early.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Skot
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Ben
> > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 10:40 AM
> > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: syncro driveshaft
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Good question Hart.
> > > I still experience vibration with the decoupler decoupled.If anything my
> > vibration is slightly better with the decoupler coupled.The only way I can
> > rid of my vibration(120km)is to remove the shaft altogether.
> > > After purchasing a new shaft and having it balanced twice since I bought
> > it,I am now of the opinion that the angles of the transaxle/front diff are
> > incorrect.I am going to laser allign these and space the engine bar to
> > correct these angles.
> > > I have tried the loosen front diff mount method,I have replaced the
> > rubber mounts at the front diff.
> > > Anyone know where I can purchase a cheap laser pointer?
> > > BenC
> > >
> > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Hartmut Kiehn <hartis@>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > All,
> > > >
> > > > 'in the end i fitted a decoupler' --- for the benefit of newer members,
> > what Alf actually fitted , was a VC ( viscous coupling ). However, there
> > maybe is
> > > >
> > > > merit in this and we should maybe ask the question, if anybody who
> > suffered vibrations had a DC (decoupler ) fitted. Would be of interest.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > What are your thoughts on this ? Hart
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > > From: dansk53bus@
> > > > Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 03:34:30 -0700
> > > > Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] syncro driveshaft
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi I tryed for month to fix the wibration in my syncro and in the end i
> > fitted a decoupler, i think your decoupler has gone hard since you took the
> > shaft of
> > > > Regards Alf
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: gkresto <gkresto@>
> > > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Tue, 26 April, 2011 4:11:11 PM
> > > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] syncro driveshaft
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I took the Drive shaft off, for economy, a few years ago and didn't
> > mark the position. I put it back on a few days ago and it vibrates like
> > crazy at 55-70 k's. VC works well. How can I sort this out? Any information
> > gratefully received. Rubber absorber at the rear ok?
> > > > Do I just have to keep trying on numerous bolt holes until it works?
> > > > I have access to another shaft a few hours south. Any use?
> > > >
> > > > When I took it off, it was working fine other than a slight vibration
> > at 60kmh.
> > > > Thanks, Geoff
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Regards
>
> Michael
>
>




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44
Micheal,if you have ruled out all the obvious,it does sound strange.
If you are ever up my way,I would be happy to go for a drive and have a listen for you.

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Michael Rayner <mallaner@...> wrote:
>
> Ben,to answer to your question
>
> *About two days before this noise was first noticed, I crossed a river with
> a very steep approach and slightly less steep departure angle. On the
> departure the rear end bottomed out on the ground/rock with a loud bang. Got
> out to check for damage,nothing visible, put it down to the tow bar
> bottoming out on the steepish departure angle. Brian is of the opinion that
> maybe the engine mounts may have been knock out of kilter setting up a
> possible vibration/tapping/knocking sound. This sound is not present with
> engine idling or cruising along at say 75kmp along the flat, but as soon as
> the engine is under load in come the pots and pans. Get to the top of the
> hill and coast down or put in the clutch or put her into Gods gear and noise
> gone.*
>
> On 28 April 2011 13:13, Ben <bencroft96@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Micheal,the Smallcar engine cradle uses the VW enginebar(moustach bar),VW
> > engine mounts.It then wraps around the aftermarket alluminium sump and bolts
> > to the Subaru engine mountings(Subaru crankcase) with small clearance.It is
> > totally different to the original VW set-up.
> > Maybe your mounts are in need of replacement,but I dont think it would
> > cause your pots and pans.
> > Does your noise changes with engine or road speed?
> >
> >
> > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Michael Rayner <mallaner@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Ben
> > >
> > > *"The engine did settle and the engine cradle was hitting on the
> > alluminium
> > > sump causing a growl.I adjusted this and havent had a problem since"*
> > > *
> > > *
> > > Could this be a possible cause for the rattle I'm trying to solve on my
> > MV
> > > motor. Are there similarities between the setup of the two different
> > > engines???? By the way I'm not coming up to Sydney this weekend, car is
> > > still with mechanic. It's driving him mad.
> > >
> > > On 28 April 2011 12:38, Ben <bencroft96@> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Skott,The Subaru hasnt missed a beat.I have travelled over 10000kms
> > now.No
> > > > oil or coolant leaks.I have changed the oil twice now since the
> > > > conversion.The engine did settle and the engine cradle was hitting on
> > the
> > > > alluminium sump causing a growl.I adjusted this and havent had a
> > problem
> > > > since.I am getting 12l per 100kms when I drive it like a bus.I still
> > laugh
> > > > as I overtake cars uphill.
> > > > Yes,I will be a the Nationals,I am looking foward to it.I hope to have
> > my
> > > > Big brakes by then.
> > > > How is your Suby,since the Christmas troubles?Is there still thoughts
> > of
> > > > changining to an ej25?
> > > > BenC
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Mr Scott Pitcher"
> > > > <spbconsulting@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Ben,
> > > > >
> > > > > How is the Scooby donk travelling?
> > > > >
> > > > > Try Clint's Crazy Bargains - I have found a few reasonable cheap crap
> > > > tools there that sort of work. My nail punches are mainly all still
> > alive
> > > > but only through lack of use.
> > > > >
> > > > > Occasionally Aldi pops up with some laser levels. Keep an eye out. I
> > will
> > > > let you know if I come across any.
> > > > >
> > > > > Are you heading to the Nationals this year?
> > > > >
> > > > > Mel wants to put the syncro in again - although I don't really care.
> > We
> > > > are bringing down both the syncro and the 71 so she can bring the
> > syncro
> > > > down early.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > >
> > > > > Skot
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: Ben
> > > > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 10:40 AM
> > > > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: syncro driveshaft
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Good question Hart.
> > > > > I still experience vibration with the decoupler decoupled.If anything
> > my
> > > > vibration is slightly better with the decoupler coupled.The only way I
> > can
> > > > rid of my vibration(120km)is to remove the shaft altogether.
> > > > > After purchasing a new shaft and having it balanced twice since I
> > bought
> > > > it,I am now of the opinion that the angles of the transaxle/front diff
> > are
> > > > incorrect.I am going to laser allign these and space the engine bar to
> > > > correct these angles.
> > > > > I have tried the loosen front diff mount method,I have replaced the
> > > > rubber mounts at the front diff.
> > > > > Anyone know where I can purchase a cheap laser pointer?
> > > > > BenC
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Hartmut Kiehn <hartis@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > All,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 'in the end i fitted a decoupler' --- for the benefit of newer
> > members,
> > > > what Alf actually fitted , was a VC ( viscous coupling ). However,
> > there
> > > > maybe is
> > > > > >
> > > > > > merit in this and we should maybe ask the question, if anybody who
> > > > suffered vibrations had a DC (decoupler ) fitted. Would be of interest.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What are your thoughts on this ? Hart
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > From: dansk53bus@
> > > > > > Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 03:34:30 -0700
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] syncro driveshaft
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi I tryed for month to fix the wibration in my syncro and in the
> > end i
> > > > fitted a decoupler, i think your decoupler has gone hard since you took
> > the
> > > > shaft of
> > > > > > Regards Alf
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: gkresto <gkresto@>
> > > > > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > Sent: Tue, 26 April, 2011 4:11:11 PM
> > > > > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] syncro driveshaft
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I took the Drive shaft off, for economy, a few years ago and didn't
> > > > mark the position. I put it back on a few days ago and it vibrates like
> > > > crazy at 55-70 k's. VC works well. How can I sort this out? Any
> > information
> > > > gratefully received. Rubber absorber at the rear ok?
> > > > > > Do I just have to keep trying on numerous bolt holes until it
> > works?
> > > > > > I have access to another shaft a few hours south. Any use?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When I took it off, it was working fine other than a slight
> > vibration
> > > > at 60kmh.
> > > > > > Thanks, Geoff
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Regards
>
> Michael
>
> Michael Rayner East Light Photography
> PO Box 144
> MALLACOOTA VIC 3892
>
> MOB: 0409 241 672
> BUS: 0351169401
> A/H: (03)5158 0346
>
> Web: www.michaelraynerphotography.com.au
> Email: michaelrayner@...
>
45
Ben will take you to his favorite spot at Deepwater Park.



> Ben <bencroft96@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Micheal,if you have ruled out all the obvious,it does sound strange.
> If you are ever up my way,I would be happy to go for a drive and have a
> listen for you.
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Michael Rayner
> <mallaner@...> wrote:
> >
> > Ben,to answer to your question
> >
> > *About two days before this noise was first noticed, I crossed a river
> with
> > a very steep approach and slightly less steep departure angle. On the
> > departure the rear end bottomed out on the ground/rock with a loud
> bang. Got
> > out to check for damage,nothing visible, put it down to the tow bar
> > bottoming out on the steepish departure angle. Brian is of the opinion
> that
> > maybe the engine mounts may have been knock out of kilter setting up a
> > possible vibration/tapping/knocking sound. This sound is not present
> with
> > engine idling or cruising along at say 75kmp along the flat, but as
> soon as
> > the engine is under load in come the pots and pans. Get to the top of
> the
> > hill and coast down or put in the clutch or put her into Gods gear and
> noise
> > gone.*
> >
> > On 28 April 2011 13:13, Ben <bencroft96@...> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Micheal,the Smallcar engine cradle uses the VW enginebar(moustach
> bar),VW
> > > engine mounts.It then wraps around the aftermarket alluminium sump
> and bolts
> > > to the Subaru engine mountings(Subaru crankcase) with small
> clearance.It is
> > > totally different to the original VW set-up.
> > > Maybe your mounts are in need of replacement,but I dont think it
> would
> > > cause your pots and pans.
> > > Does your noise changes with engine or road speed?
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Michael Rayner
> <mallaner@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Ben
> > > >
> > > > *"The engine did settle and the engine cradle was hitting on the
> > > alluminium
> > > > sump causing a growl.I adjusted this and havent had a problem
> since"*
> > > > *
> > > > *
> > > > Could this be a possible cause for the rattle I'm trying to solve
> on my
> > > MV
> > > > motor. Are there similarities between the setup of the two
> different
> > > > engines???? By the way I'm not coming up to Sydney this weekend,
> car is
> > > > still with mechanic. It's driving him mad.
> > > >
> > > > On 28 April 2011 12:38, Ben <bencroft96@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Skott,The Subaru hasnt missed a beat.I have travelled over
> 10000kms
> > > now.No
> > > > > oil or coolant leaks.I have changed the oil twice now since the
> > > > > conversion.The engine did settle and the engine cradle was
> hitting on
> > > the
> > > > > alluminium sump causing a growl.I adjusted this and havent had a
> > > problem
> > > > > since.I am getting 12l per 100kms when I drive it like a bus.I
> still
> > > laugh
> > > > > as I overtake cars uphill.
> > > > > Yes,I will be a the Nationals,I am looking foward to it.I hope
> to have
> > > my
> > > > > Big brakes by then.
> > > > > How is your Suby,since the Christmas troubles?Is there still
> thoughts
> > > of
> > > > > changining to an ej25?
> > > > > BenC
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Mr Scott Pitcher"
> > > > > <spbconsulting@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ben,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How is the Scooby donk travelling?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Try Clint's Crazy Bargains - I have found a few reasonable
> cheap crap
> > > > > tools there that sort of work. My nail punches are mainly all
> still
> > > alive
> > > > > but only through lack of use.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Occasionally Aldi pops up with some laser levels. Keep an eye
> out. I
> > > will
> > > > > let you know if I come across any.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Are you heading to the Nationals this year?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mel wants to put the syncro in again - although I don't really
> care.
> > > We
> > > > > are bringing down both the syncro and the 71 so she can bring
> the
> > > syncro
> > > > > down early.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Skot
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: Ben
> > > > > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 10:40 AM
> > > > > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: syncro driveshaft
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Good question Hart.
> > > > > > I still experience vibration with the decoupler decoupled.If
> anything
> > > my
> > > > > vibration is slightly better with the decoupler coupled.The only
> way I
> > > can
> > > > > rid of my vibration(120km)is to remove the shaft altogether.
> > > > > > After purchasing a new shaft and having it balanced twice
> since I
> > > bought
> > > > > it,I am now of the opinion that the angles of the
> transaxle/front diff
> > > are
> > > > > incorrect.I am going to laser allign these and space the engine
> bar to
> > > > > correct these angles.
> > > > > > I have tried the loosen front diff mount method,I have
> replaced the
> > > > > rubber mounts at the front diff.
> > > > > > Anyone know where I can purchase a cheap laser pointer?
> > > > > > BenC
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Hartmut Kiehn
> <hartis@>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > All,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 'in the end i fitted a decoupler' --- for the benefit of
> newer
> > > members,
> > > > > what Alf actually fitted , was a VC ( viscous coupling ).
> However,
> > > there
> > > > > maybe is
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > merit in this and we should maybe ask the question, if
> anybody who
> > > > > suffered vibrations had a DC (decoupler ) fitted. Would be of
> interest.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What are your thoughts on this ? Hart
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > From: dansk53bus@
> > > > > > > Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 03:34:30 -0700
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] syncro driveshaft
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi I tryed for month to fix the wibration in my syncro and
> in the
> > > end i
> > > > > fitted a decoupler, i think your decoupler has gone hard since
> you took
> > > the
> > > > > shaft of
> > > > > > > Regards Alf
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > From: gkresto <gkresto@>
> > > > > > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > Sent: Tue, 26 April, 2011 4:11:11 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] syncro driveshaft
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I took the Drive shaft off, for economy, a few years ago and
> didn't
> > > > > mark the position. I put it back on a few days ago and it
> vibrates like
> > > > > crazy at 55-70 k's. VC works well. How can I sort this out? Any
> > > information
> > > > > gratefully received. Rubber absorber at the rear ok?
> > > > > > > Do I just have to keep trying on numerous bolt holes until
> it
> > > works?
> > > > > > > I have access to another shaft a few hours south. Any use?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > When I took it off, it was working fine other than a slight
> > > vibration
> > > > > at 60kmh.
> > > > > > > Thanks, Geoff
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Regards
> > > >
> > > > Michael
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Regards
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > Michael Rayner East Light Photography
> > PO Box 144
> > MALLACOOTA VIC 3892
> >
> > MOB: 0409 241 672
> > BUS: 0351169401
> > A/H: (03)5158 0346
> >
> > Web: www.michaelraynerphotography.com.au
> > Email: michaelrayner@...
> >
46
That sounds very romantic. I hope Bens intentions are good!
 
HA ha ha ha.
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: syncro driveshaft

 

Ben will take you to his favorite spot at Deepwater Park.

> Ben <bencroft96@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Micheal,if you have ruled out all the obvious,it does sound strange.
> If you are ever up my way,I would be happy to go for a drive and have a
> listen for you.
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Michael Rayner
> <mallaner@...> wrote:
> >
> > Ben,to answer to your question
> >
> > *About two days before this noise was first noticed, I crossed a river
> with
> > a very steep approach and slightly less steep departure angle. On the
> > departure the rear end bottomed out on the ground/rock with a loud
> bang. Got
> > out to check for damage,nothing visible, put it down to the tow bar
> > bottoming out on the steepish departure angle. Brian is of the opinion
> that
> > maybe the engine mounts may have been knock out of kilter setting up a
> > possible vibration/tapping/knocking sound. This sound is not present
> with
> > engine idling or cruising along at say 75kmp along the flat, but as
> soon as
> > the engine is under load in come the pots and pans. Get to the top of
> the
> > hill and coast down or put in the clutch or put her into Gods gear and
> noise
> > gone.*
> >
> > On 28 April 2011 13:13, Ben <bencroft96@...> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Micheal,the Smallcar engine cradle uses the VW enginebar(moustach
> bar),VW
> > > engine mounts.It then wraps around the aftermarket alluminium sump
> and bolts
> > > to the Subaru engine mountings(Subaru crankcase) with small
> clearance.It is
> > > totally different to the original VW set-up.
> > > Maybe your mounts are in need of replacement,but I dont think it
> would
> > > cause your pots and pans.
> > > Does your noise changes with engine or road speed?
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Michael Rayner
> <mallaner@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Ben
> > > >
> > > > *"The engine did settle and the engine cradle was hitting on the
> > > alluminium
> > > > sump causing a growl.I adjusted this and havent had a problem
> since"*
> > > > *
> > > > *
> > > > Could this be a possible cause for the rattle I'm trying to solve
> on my
> > > MV
> > > > motor. Are there similarities between the setup of the two
> different
> > > > engines???? By the way I'm not coming up to Sydney this weekend,
> car is
> > > > still with mechanic. It's driving him mad.
> > > >
> > > > On 28 April 2011 12:38, Ben <bencroft96@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Skott,The Subaru hasnt missed a beat.I have travelled over
> 10000kms
> > > now.No
> > > > > oil or coolant leaks.I have changed the oil twice now since the
> > > > > conversion.The engine did settle and the engine cradle was
> hitting on
> > > the
> > > > > alluminium sump causing a growl.I adjusted this and havent had a
> > > problem
> > > > > since.I am getting 12l per 100kms when I drive it like a bus.I
> still
> > > laugh
> > > > > as I overtake cars uphill.
> > > > > Yes,I will be a the Nationals,I am looking foward to it.I hope
> to have
> > > my
> > > > > Big brakes by then.
> > > > > How is your Suby,since the Christmas troubles?Is there still
> thoughts
> > > of
> > > > > changining to an ej25?
> > > > > BenC
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Mr Scott Pitcher"
> > > > > <spbconsulting@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ben,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How is the Scooby donk travelling?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Try Clint's Crazy Bargains - I have found a few reasonable
> cheap crap
> > > > > tools there that sort of work. My nail punches are mainly all
> still
> > > alive
> > > > > but only through lack of use.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Occasionally Aldi pops up with some laser levels. Keep an eye
> out. I
> > > will
> > > > > let you know if I come across any.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Are you heading to the Nationals this year?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mel wants to put the syncro in again - although I don't really
> care.
> > > We
> > > > > are bringing down both the syncro and the 71 so she can bring
> the
> > > syncro
> > > > > down early.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Skot
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: Ben
> > > > > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 10:40 AM
> > > > > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: syncro driveshaft
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Good question Hart.
> > > > > > I still experience vibration with the decoupler decoupled.If
> anything
> > > my
> > > > > vibration is slightly better with the decoupler coupled.The only
> way I
> > > can
> > > > > rid of my vibration(120km)is to remove the shaft altogether.
> > > > > > After purchasing a new shaft and having it balanced twice
> since I
> > > bought
> > > > > it,I am now of the opinion that the angles of the
> transaxle/front diff
> > > are
> > > > > incorrect.I am going to laser allign these and space the engine
> bar to
> > > > > correct these angles.
> > > > > > I have tried the loosen front diff mount method,I have
> replaced the
> > > > > rubber mounts at the front diff.
> > > > > > Anyone know where I can purchase a cheap laser pointer?
> > > > > > BenC
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Hartmut Kiehn
> <hartis@>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > All,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 'in the end i fitted a decoupler' --- for the benefit of
> newer
> > > members,
> > > > > what Alf actually fitted , was a VC ( viscous coupling ).
> However,
> > > there
> > > > > maybe is
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > merit in this and we should maybe ask the question, if
> anybody who
> > > > > suffered vibrations had a DC (decoupler ) fitted. Would be of
> interest.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What are your thoughts on this ? Hart
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > From: dansk53bus@
> > > > > > > Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 03:34:30 -0700
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] syncro driveshaft
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi I tryed for month to fix the wibration in my syncro and
> in the
> > > end i
> > > > > fitted a decoupler, i think your decoupler has gone hard since
> you took
> > > the
> > > > > shaft of
> > > > > > > Regards Alf
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > From: gkresto <gkresto@>
> > > > > > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > Sent: Tue, 26 April, 2011 4:11:11 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] syncro driveshaft
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I took the Drive shaft off, for economy, a few years ago and
> didn't
> > > > > mark the position. I put it back on a few days ago and it
> vibrates like
> > > > > crazy at 55-70 k's. VC works well. How can I sort this out? Any
> > > information
> > > > > gratefully received. Rubber absorber at the rear ok?
> > > > > > > Do I just have to keep trying on numerous bolt holes until
> it
> > > works?
> > > > > > > I have access to another shaft a few hours south. Any use?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > When I took it off, it was working fine other than a slight
> > > vibration
> > > > > at 60kmh.
> > > > > > > Thanks, Geoff
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Regards
> > > >
> > > > Michael
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Regards
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > Michael Rayner East Light Photography
> > PO Box 144
> > MALLACOOTA VIC 3892
> >
> > MOB: 0409 241 672
> > BUS: 0351169401
> > A/H: (03)5158 0346
> >
> > Web: www.michaelraynerphotography.com.au
> > Email: michaelrayner@...
> >

47
Phill,you are the one who knew all about the ongoings down there.Only been in there twice(once,a VW day years ago),the other with you(to turn my Syncro around whilst we were roadtesting for vibrations).Once you told me about what goes on down there,I made sure I was seated for the rest of our journey!
There is a bike track that goes directly through it and onto your house isnt there?lol

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Mr Scott Pitcher" <spbconsulting@...> wrote:
>
> That sounds very romantic. I hope Bens intentions are good!
>
> HA ha ha ha.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: plander@...
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 12:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: syncro driveshaft
>
>
>
> Ben will take you to his favorite spot at Deepwater Park.
>
> > Ben <bencroft96@...> wrote:
> >
> > Micheal,if you have ruled out all the obvious,it does sound strange.
> > If you are ever up my way,I would be happy to go for a drive and have a
> > listen for you.
> >
> > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Michael Rayner
> > <mallaner@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Ben,to answer to your question
> > >
> > > *About two days before this noise was first noticed, I crossed a river
> > with
> > > a very steep approach and slightly less steep departure angle. On the
> > > departure the rear end bottomed out on the ground/rock with a loud
> > bang. Got
> > > out to check for damage,nothing visible, put it down to the tow bar
> > > bottoming out on the steepish departure angle. Brian is of the opinion
> > that
> > > maybe the engine mounts may have been knock out of kilter setting up a
> > > possible vibration/tapping/knocking sound. This sound is not present
> > with
> > > engine idling or cruising along at say 75kmp along the flat, but as
> > soon as
> > > the engine is under load in come the pots and pans. Get to the top of
> > the
> > > hill and coast down or put in the clutch or put her into Gods gear and
> > noise
> > > gone.*
> > >
> > > On 28 April 2011 13:13, Ben <bencroft96@> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Micheal,the Smallcar engine cradle uses the VW enginebar(moustach
> > bar),VW
> > > > engine mounts.It then wraps around the aftermarket alluminium sump
> > and bolts
> > > > to the Subaru engine mountings(Subaru crankcase) with small
> > clearance.It is
> > > > totally different to the original VW set-up.
> > > > Maybe your mounts are in need of replacement,but I dont think it
> > would
> > > > cause your pots and pans.
> > > > Does your noise changes with engine or road speed?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Michael Rayner
> > <mallaner@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Ben
> > > > >
> > > > > *"The engine did settle and the engine cradle was hitting on the
> > > > alluminium
> > > > > sump causing a growl.I adjusted this and havent had a problem
> > since"*
> > > > > *
> > > > > *
> > > > > Could this be a possible cause for the rattle I'm trying to solve
> > on my
> > > > MV
> > > > > motor. Are there similarities between the setup of the two
> > different
> > > > > engines???? By the way I'm not coming up to Sydney this weekend,
> > car is
> > > > > still with mechanic. It's driving him mad.
> > > > >
> > > > > On 28 April 2011 12:38, Ben <bencroft96@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Skott,The Subaru hasnt missed a beat.I have travelled over
> > 10000kms
> > > > now.No
> > > > > > oil or coolant leaks.I have changed the oil twice now since the
> > > > > > conversion.The engine did settle and the engine cradle was
> > hitting on
> > > > the
> > > > > > alluminium sump causing a growl.I adjusted this and havent had a
> > > > problem
> > > > > > since.I am getting 12l per 100kms when I drive it like a bus.I
> > still
> > > > laugh
> > > > > > as I overtake cars uphill.
> > > > > > Yes,I will be a the Nationals,I am looking foward to it.I hope
> > to have
> > > > my
> > > > > > Big brakes by then.
> > > > > > How is your Suby,since the Christmas troubles?Is there still
> > thoughts
> > > > of
> > > > > > changining to an ej25?
> > > > > > BenC
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Mr Scott Pitcher"
> > > > > > <spbconsulting@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ben,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > How is the Scooby donk travelling?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Try Clint's Crazy Bargains - I have found a few reasonable
> > cheap crap
> > > > > > tools there that sort of work. My nail punches are mainly all
> > still
> > > > alive
> > > > > > but only through lack of use.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Occasionally Aldi pops up with some laser levels. Keep an eye
> > out. I
> > > > will
> > > > > > let you know if I come across any.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Are you heading to the Nationals this year?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Mel wants to put the syncro in again - although I don't really
> > care.
> > > > We
> > > > > > are bringing down both the syncro and the 71 so she can bring
> > the
> > > > syncro
> > > > > > down early.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Skot
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: Ben
> > > > > > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 10:40 AM
> > > > > > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: syncro driveshaft
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Good question Hart.
> > > > > > > I still experience vibration with the decoupler decoupled.If
> > anything
> > > > my
> > > > > > vibration is slightly better with the decoupler coupled.The only
> > way I
> > > > can
> > > > > > rid of my vibration(120km)is to remove the shaft altogether.
> > > > > > > After purchasing a new shaft and having it balanced twice
> > since I
> > > > bought
> > > > > > it,I am now of the opinion that the angles of the
> > transaxle/front diff
> > > > are
> > > > > > incorrect.I am going to laser allign these and space the engine
> > bar to
> > > > > > correct these angles.
> > > > > > > I have tried the loosen front diff mount method,I have
> > replaced the
> > > > > > rubber mounts at the front diff.
> > > > > > > Anyone know where I can purchase a cheap laser pointer?
> > > > > > > BenC
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Hartmut Kiehn
> > <hartis@>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > All,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 'in the end i fitted a decoupler' --- for the benefit of
> > newer
> > > > members,
> > > > > > what Alf actually fitted , was a VC ( viscous coupling ).
> > However,
> > > > there
> > > > > > maybe is
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > merit in this and we should maybe ask the question, if
> > anybody who
> > > > > > suffered vibrations had a DC (decoupler ) fitted. Would be of
> > interest.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > What are your thoughts on this ? Hart
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > > From: dansk53bus@
> > > > > > > > Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 03:34:30 -0700
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] syncro driveshaft
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi I tryed for month to fix the wibration in my syncro and
> > in the
> > > > end i
> > > > > > fitted a decoupler, i think your decoupler has gone hard since
> > you took
> > > > the
> > > > > > shaft of
> > > > > > > > Regards Alf
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > From: gkresto <gkresto@>
> > > > > > > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > > Sent: Tue, 26 April, 2011 4:11:11 PM
> > > > > > > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] syncro driveshaft
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I took the Drive shaft off, for economy, a few years ago and
> > didn't
> > > > > > mark the position. I put it back on a few days ago and it
> > vibrates like
> > > > > > crazy at 55-70 k's. VC works well. How can I sort this out? Any
> > > > information
> > > > > > gratefully received. Rubber absorber at the rear ok?
> > > > > > > > Do I just have to keep trying on numerous bolt holes until
> > it
> > > > works?
> > > > > > > > I have access to another shaft a few hours south. Any use?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > When I took it off, it was working fine other than a slight
> > > > vibration
> > > > > > at 60kmh.
> > > > > > > > Thanks, Geoff
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Regards
> > > > >
> > > > > Michael
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >
> > > Michael Rayner East Light Photography
> > > PO Box 144
> > > MALLACOOTA VIC 3892
> > >
> > > MOB: 0409 241 672
> > > BUS: 0351169401
> > > A/H: (03)5158 0346
> > >
> > > Web: www.michaelraynerphotography.com.au
> > > Email: michaelrayner@
> > >
>
48
You were the driver ;)



> Ben <bencroft96@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Phill,you are the one who knew all about the ongoings down there.Only
> been in there twice(once,a VW day years ago),the other with you(to turn
> my Syncro around whilst we were roadtesting for vibrations).Once you
> told me about what goes on down there,I made sure I was seated for the
> rest of our journey!
> There is a bike track that goes directly through it and onto your house
> isnt there?lol
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Mr Scott Pitcher"
> <spbconsulting@...> wrote:
> >
> > That sounds very romantic. I hope Bens intentions are good!
> >
> > HA ha ha ha.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: plander@...
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 12:49 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: syncro driveshaft
> >
> >
> >
> > Ben will take you to his favorite spot at Deepwater Park.
> >
> > > Ben <bencroft96@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Micheal,if you have ruled out all the obvious,it does sound
> strange.
> > > If you are ever up my way,I would be happy to go for a drive and
> have a
> > > listen for you.
> > >
> > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Michael Rayner
> > > <mallaner@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Ben,to answer to your question
> > > >
> > > > *About two days before this noise was first noticed, I crossed a
> river
> > > with
> > > > a very steep approach and slightly less steep departure angle.
> On the
> > > > departure the rear end bottomed out on the ground/rock with a
> loud
> > > bang. Got
> > > > out to check for damage,nothing visible, put it down to the tow
> bar
> > > > bottoming out on the steepish departure angle. Brian is of the
> opinion
> > > that
> > > > maybe the engine mounts may have been knock out of kilter
> setting up a
> > > > possible vibration/tapping/knocking sound. This sound is not
> present
> > > with
> > > > engine idling or cruising along at say 75kmp along the flat, but
> as
> > > soon as
> > > > the engine is under load in come the pots and pans. Get to the
> top of
> > > the
> > > > hill and coast down or put in the clutch or put her into Gods
> gear and
> > > noise
> > > > gone.*
> > > >
> > > > On 28 April 2011 13:13, Ben <bencroft96@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Micheal,the Smallcar engine cradle uses the VW
> enginebar(moustach
> > > bar),VW
> > > > > engine mounts.It then wraps around the aftermarket alluminium
> sump
> > > and bolts
> > > > > to the Subaru engine mountings(Subaru crankcase) with small
> > > clearance.It is
> > > > > totally different to the original VW set-up.
> > > > > Maybe your mounts are in need of replacement,but I dont think
> it
> > > would
> > > > > cause your pots and pans.
> > > > > Does your noise changes with engine or road speed?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Michael Rayner
> > > <mallaner@>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Ben
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *"The engine did settle and the engine cradle was hitting on
> the
> > > > > alluminium
> > > > > > sump causing a growl.I adjusted this and havent had a
> problem
> > > since"*
> > > > > > *
> > > > > > *
> > > > > > Could this be a possible cause for the rattle I'm trying to
> solve
> > > on my
> > > > > MV
> > > > > > motor. Are there similarities between the setup of the two
> > > different
> > > > > > engines???? By the way I'm not coming up to Sydney this
> weekend,
> > > car is
> > > > > > still with mechanic. It's driving him mad.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 28 April 2011 12:38, Ben <bencroft96@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Skott,The Subaru hasnt missed a beat.I have travelled over
>
> > > 10000kms
> > > > > now.No
> > > > > > > oil or coolant leaks.I have changed the oil twice now
> since the
> > > > > > > conversion.The engine did settle and the engine cradle was
>
> > > hitting on
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > alluminium sump causing a growl.I adjusted this and havent
> had a
> > > > > problem
> > > > > > > since.I am getting 12l per 100kms when I drive it like a
> bus.I
> > > still
> > > > > laugh
> > > > > > > as I overtake cars uphill.
> > > > > > > Yes,I will be a the Nationals,I am looking foward to it.I
> hope
> > > to have
> > > > > my
> > > > > > > Big brakes by then.
> > > > > > > How is your Suby,since the Christmas troubles?Is there
> still
> > > thoughts
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > changining to an ej25?
> > > > > > > BenC
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Mr Scott
> Pitcher"
> > > > > > > <spbconsulting@> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Ben,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > How is the Scooby donk travelling?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Try Clint's Crazy Bargains - I have found a few
> reasonable
> > > cheap crap
> > > > > > > tools there that sort of work. My nail punches are mainly
> all
> > > still
> > > > > alive
> > > > > > > but only through lack of use.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Occasionally Aldi pops up with some laser levels. Keep
> an eye
> > > out. I
> > > > > will
> > > > > > > let you know if I come across any.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Are you heading to the Nationals this year?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Mel wants to put the syncro in again - although I don't
> really
> > > care.
> > > > > We
> > > > > > > are bringing down both the syncro and the 71 so she can
> bring
> > > the
> > > > > syncro
> > > > > > > down early.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Skot
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > From: Ben
> > > > > > > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 10:40 AM
> > > > > > > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: syncro driveshaft
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Good question Hart.
> > > > > > > > I still experience vibration with the decoupler
> decoupled.If
> > > anything
> > > > > my
> > > > > > > vibration is slightly better with the decoupler
> coupled.The only
> > > way I
> > > > > can
> > > > > > > rid of my vibration(120km)is to remove the shaft
> altogether.
> > > > > > > > After purchasing a new shaft and having it balanced
> twice
> > > since I
> > > > > bought
> > > > > > > it,I am now of the opinion that the angles of the
> > > transaxle/front diff
> > > > > are
> > > > > > > incorrect.I am going to laser allign these and space the
> engine
> > > bar to
> > > > > > > correct these angles.
> > > > > > > > I have tried the loosen front diff mount method,I have
> > > replaced the
> > > > > > > rubber mounts at the front diff.
> > > > > > > > Anyone know where I can purchase a cheap laser pointer?
> > > > > > > > BenC
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Hartmut
> Kiehn
> > > <hartis@>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > All,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 'in the end i fitted a decoupler' --- for the benefit
> of
> > > newer
> > > > > members,
> > > > > > > what Alf actually fitted , was a VC ( viscous coupling ).
> > > However,
> > > > > there
> > > > > > > maybe is
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > merit in this and we should maybe ask the question, if
>
> > > anybody who
> > > > > > > suffered vibrations had a DC (decoupler ) fitted. Would be
> of
> > > interest.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > What are your thoughts on this ? Hart
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > > > From: dansk53bus@
> > > > > > > > > Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 03:34:30 -0700
> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] syncro driveshaft
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi I tryed for month to fix the wibration in my syncro
> and
> > > in the
> > > > > end i
> > > > > > > fitted a decoupler, i think your decoupler has gone hard
> since
> > > you took
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > shaft of
> > > > > > > > > Regards Alf
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > From: gkresto <gkresto@>
> > > > > > > > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Tue, 26 April, 2011 4:11:11 PM
> > > > > > > > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] syncro driveshaft
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I took the Drive shaft off, for economy, a few years
> ago and
> > > didn't
> > > > > > > mark the position. I put it back on a few days ago and it
> > > vibrates like
> > > > > > > crazy at 55-70 k's. VC works well. How can I sort this
> out? Any
> > > > > information
> > > > > > > gratefully received. Rubber absorber at the rear ok?
> > > > > > > > > Do I just have to keep trying on numerous bolt holes
> until
> > > it
> > > > > works?
> > > > > > > > > I have access to another shaft a few hours south. Any
> use?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > When I took it off, it was working fine other than a
> slight
> > > > > vibration
> > > > > > > at 60kmh.
> > > > > > > > > Thanks, Geoff
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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> > > > Michael Rayner East Light Photography
> > > > PO Box 144
> > > > MALLACOOTA VIC 3892
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> > > > MOB: 0409 241 672
> > > > BUS: 0351169401
> > > > A/H: (03)5158 0346
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> > > > Web: www.michaelraynerphotography.com.au
> > > > Email: michaelrayner@
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