Tyre Placard.

Hang on guys,Ill go down and have a good look at it
The tyre placard is a sticker that is just under the nsf check strap,it reads.
RECOMENDED COLD TYRE IFLATION PRESSURE
Tyre-185 R-14c Rim-5 1/2 Jx14
FRONT 300kpa REAR 370kpa
Tyre-205 R-14c Rim-6Jx14
FRONT 250kpa REAR 300kpa
WHEN FITTED WITH THESE TYRES,THIS VEHICLE SHOULD NOT BE DRIVEN FOR PROLONGED PERIODS AT HIGH SPEEDS. T-2+5

I do have an Atco compliance plate with build date 6/89,rivited on osf,under check strap.
Maybe this warning has to do with the different tyre pressures front to rear?I cant be the only one with it though.

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "bencroft96" <bencroft96@...> wrote:
>
> Hang on guys,Ill go down and have a good look at it
>
Ben,
 
You'll be happy to know that you're not the only one with that sticker. Mine is an Ateco 10/88 stamped and it has that clear sticker in the same spot. Looks like it was put there by my 2 year old daughter. Hence it must be an Ateco thing.
 
Scott
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: bencroft96
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 10:28 PM
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Tyre Placard.

 

The tyre placard is a sticker that is just under the nsf check strap,it reads.
RECOMENDED COLD TYRE IFLATION PRESSURE
Tyre-185 R-14c Rim-5 1/2 Jx14
FRONT 300kpa REAR 370kpa
Tyre-205 R-14c Rim-6Jx14
FRONT 250kpa REAR 300kpa
WHEN FITTED WITH THESE TYRES,THIS VEHICLE SHOULD NOT BE DRIVEN FOR PROLONGED PERIODS AT HIGH SPEEDS. T-2+5

I do have an Atco compliance plate with build date 6/89,rivited on osf,under check strap.
Maybe this warning has to do with the different tyre pressures front to rear?I cant be the only one with it though.

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com, "bencroft96" <bencroft96@ ...> wrote:
>
> Hang on guys,Ill go down and have a good look at it
>

That’s an interesting sticker, in that it doesn’t define ‘high speeds’. If it was of German origin, it might mean keep it under 250Km/hr on the autobahn!!

Perhaps it is of local origin, and may relate to the speed ratings of the available original ‘light truck’ or A/T tyres that were probably fitted. My T3 (1990 ex Telecom) didn’t have one there, but had one near the B pillar on the RHS. No mention of speed restriction though. I doubt if it has an implications for the VC, as a new VC (rather than the old stiff ones that most of us had or have) doesn’t suffer from highway driving. Certainly once I’d replaced mine, there were no issues, and I did 1000’s of high speed kilometers in the heat.

 

BRIAN REED

FAIRFIELD NATURAL THERAPIES

185 Wingrove St

Fairfield, Vic. 3078

03 9481 5673   0407 319 521


From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of bencroft96
Sent: Tuesday, 8 December 2009 10:28 PM
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Tyre Placard.

 

 

The tyre placard is a sticker that is just under the nsf check strap,it reads.
RECOMENDED COLD TYRE IFLATION PRESSURE
Tyre-185 R-14c Rim-5 1/2 Jx14
FRONT 300kpa REAR 370kpa
Tyre-205 R-14c Rim-6Jx14
FRONT 250kpa REAR 300kpa
WHEN FITTED WITH THESE TYRES,THIS VEHICLE SHOULD NOT BE DRIVEN FOR PROLONGED PERIODS AT HIGH SPEEDS. T-2+5

I do have an Atco compliance plate with build date 6/89,rivited on osf,under check strap.
Maybe this warning has to do with the different tyre pressures front to rear?I cant be the only one with it though.

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com, "bencroft96" <bencroft96@ ...> wrote:

>
> Hang on guys,Ill go down and have a good look at it
>

The sticker is stuck on good and neat on mine Scott,I like to see my bus get to 250 kays! I doubt it,I would have to wind her up,Brian.Interesting comment on the speed ratings on the tyres,these would definatley have a speed rating.

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Brian Reed" <breed@...> wrote:
>
> That's an interesting sticker, in that it doesn't define 'high speeds'. If
> it was of German origin, it might mean keep it under 250Km/hr on the
> autobahn!!
>
> Perhaps it is of local origin, and may relate to the speed ratings of the
> available original 'light truck' or A/T tyres that were probably fitted. My
> T3 (1990 ex Telecom) didn't have one there, but had one near the B pillar on
> the RHS. No mention of speed restriction though. I doubt if it has an
> implications for the VC, as a new VC (rather than the old stiff ones that
> most of us had or have) doesn't suffer from highway driving. Certainly once
> I'd replaced mine, there were no issues, and I did 1000's of high speed
> kilometers in the heat.
>
>
>
> BRIAN REED
>
> FAIRFIELD NATURAL THERAPIES
>
> 185 Wingrove St
>
> Fairfield, Vic. 3078
>
> 03 9481 5673 0407 319 521
>
> _____
>
> From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of bencroft96
> Sent: Tuesday, 8 December 2009 10:28 PM
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Tyre Placard.
>
>
>
>
>
> The tyre placard is a sticker that is just under the nsf check strap,it
> reads.
> RECOMENDED COLD TYRE IFLATION PRESSURE
> Tyre-185 R-14c Rim-5 1/2 Jx14
> FRONT 300kpa REAR 370kpa
> Tyre-205 R-14c Rim-6Jx14
> FRONT 250kpa REAR 300kpa
> WHEN FITTED WITH THESE TYRES,THIS VEHICLE SHOULD NOT BE DRIVEN FOR PROLONGED
> PERIODS AT HIGH SPEEDS. T-2+5
>
> I do have an Atco compliance plate with build date 6/89,rivited on osf,under
> check strap.
> Maybe this warning has to do with the different tyre pressures front to
> rear?I cant be the only one with it though.
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com>
> @yahoogroups.com, "bencroft96" <bencroft96@> wrote:
> >
> > Hang on guys,Ill go down and have a good look at it
> >
>
The tyres must have been "N" rated or something low speed. This may be something to do with the earlier 185s. This would have nothing to do with being a syncro but may be some ADR for low speed tyres.

Phill



> bencroft96 <bencroft96@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> The tyre placard is a sticker that is just under the nsf check strap,it
> reads.
> RECOMENDED COLD TYRE IFLATION PRESSURE
> Tyre-185 R-14c Rim-5 1/2 Jx14
> FRONT 300kpa REAR 370kpa
> Tyre-205 R-14c Rim-6Jx14
> FRONT 250kpa REAR 300kpa
> WHEN FITTED WITH THESE TYRES,THIS VEHICLE SHOULD NOT BE DRIVEN FOR
> PROLONGED PERIODS AT HIGH SPEEDS. T-2+5
>
> I do have an Atco compliance plate with build date 6/89,rivited on
> osf,under check strap.
> Maybe this warning has to do with the different tyre pressures front to
> rear?I cant be the only one with it though.
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "bencroft96"
> <bencroft96@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hang on guys,Ill go down and have a good look at it
> >

Ben,

Attached is a pic of the tyre placard on my Syncro.  This bears a VAG number and can reasonably be presumed to be the original placard fitted by VAG.

Regarding the cautionary aspect of the placard on your vehicle, I would have to dig through the ADRs for the period to see if it is ADR related.

Going back a bit earlier in VAG history, the owners handbooks for new Beetles always carried a section on tyres which stated (fahrvergnugen notwithstanding) that high speed driving was the enemy of long tyre life.  Given the level of tyre technology at the time, this was reasonable.  I wonder if the placard on your Syncro is a continuation of this earlier time.

Les

 


From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of bencroft96
Sent: 08 December 2009 22:28
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Tyre Placard.

 

 

The tyre placard is a sticker that is just under the nsf check strap,it reads.
RECOMENDED COLD TYRE IFLATION PRESSURE
Tyre-185 R-14c Rim-5 1/2 Jx14
FRONT 300kpa REAR 370kpa
Tyre-205 R-14c Rim-6Jx14
FRONT 250kpa REAR 300kpa
WHEN FITTED WITH THESE TYRES,THIS VEHICLE SHOULD NOT BE DRIVEN FOR PROLONGED PERIODS AT HIGH SPEEDS. T-2+5

I do have an Atco compliance plate with build date 6/89,rivited on osf,under check strap.
Maybe this warning has to do with the different tyre pressures front to rear?I cant be the only one with it though.

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com, "bencroft96" <bencroft96@ ...> wrote:

>
> Hang on guys,Ill go down and have a good look at it
>

I remember my brother had a square back type 3 VW in the 70's that had original equipment 6ply tyres -hardly a necessity given its weight/load capacity. The explanation he was given was they were just that bit more expensive to make the local content reach the desired percentage. I am sure all our syncros were fully imported but there could have been some similar  loophole in tariffs as they shuttled between Germany and Austria in the 80's which gave an advantage to lesser spec tyres and hence the placard.(There's no such restriction on my foil ones for 14" and 16" wheels.)
 On the other hand this speculation may be just that- idle erroneous speculation on my part which wouldn't pass Les's first test of verifyable engineering knowledge..
Don't they reckon if you are wondering whether there has been a conspiracy or a cockup always go for the cockup!
Cheers
Roger
Roger 

--- On Wed, 9/12/09, Les Harris <leslieharris@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

From: Les Harris <leslieharris@optusnet.com.au>
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Tyre Placard. [1 Attachment]
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Received: Wednesday, 9 December, 2009, 6:37 AM

 

Ben,

Attached is a pic of the tyre placard on my Syncro.  This bears a VAG number and can reasonably be presumed to be the original placard fitted by VAG.

Regarding the cautionary aspect of the placard on your vehicle, I would have to dig through the ADRs for the period to see if it is ADR related.

Going back a bit earlier in VAG history, the owners handbooks for new Beetles always carried a section on tyres which stated (fahrvergnugen notwithstanding) that high speed driving was the enemy of long tyre life.  Given the level of tyre technology at the time, this was reasonable.  I wonder if the placard on your Syncro is a continuation of this earlier time.

Les

 


From: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com [mailto: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of bencroft96
Sent: 08 December 2009 22:28
To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Re: Tyre Placard.

 

 

The tyre placard is a sticker that is just under the nsf check strap,it reads.
RECOMENDED COLD TYRE IFLATION PRESSURE
Tyre-185 R-14c Rim-5 1/2 Jx14
FRONT 300kpa REAR 370kpa
Tyre-205 R-14c Rim-6Jx14
FRONT 250kpa REAR 300kpa
WHEN FITTED WITH THESE TYRES,THIS VEHICLE SHOULD NOT BE DRIVEN FOR PROLONGED PERIODS AT HIGH SPEEDS. T-2+5

I do have an Atco compliance plate with build date 6/89,rivited on osf,under check strap.
Maybe this warning has to do with the different tyre pressures front to rear?I cant be the only one with it though.

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com, "bencroft96" <bencroft96@ ...> wrote:
>
> Hang on guys,Ill go down and have a good look at it
>


See what's on at the movies in your area. Find out now.

Roger,

Without knowing the origin of the sticker on Ben’s Syncro, we are just speculating. I owned several Type 3s but have no recollection of the tyre placards on them. Ben’s sticker covers 5 ½ “ and 6” rims, so would cover T3 2WD as well as AWD. The last characters T-2+5” are a puzzle on their own. I have attached another pic of the placard on my Syncro, showing that it is in the same place as Ben’s – left hand A pillar immediately under the door check link.

 

Ben,

Is it possible for you to post a picture of your sticker? It might ring a bell with someone, either here or overseas. As you say, you can’t be the only one with it. Mine is an aluminium foil sticker. Is yours foil or paper?

 

Could I ask everyone to take ten seconds to look at their own Syncro?

Les

 


From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Roger Bell
Sent: 10 December 2009 00:12
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Tyre Placard.

 

 

I remember my brother had a square back type 3 VW in the 70's that had original equipment 6ply tyres -hardly a necessity given its weight/load capacity. The explanation he was given was they were just that bit more expensive to make the local content reach the desired percentage. I am sure all our syncros were fully imported but there could have been some similar  loophole in tariffs as they shuttled between Germany and Austria in the 80's which gave an advantage to lesser spec tyres and hence the placard.(There' s no such restriction on my foil ones for 14" and 16" wheels.)

 On the other hand this speculation may be just that- idle erroneous speculation on my part which wouldn't pass Les's first test of verifyable engineering knowledge..

Don't they reckon if you are wondering whether there has been a conspiracy or a cockup always go for the cockup!

Cheers

Roger



--- On Wed, 9/12/09, Les Harris < leslieharris@ optusnet. com.au > wrote:


From: Les Harris < leslieharris@ optusnet. com.au >
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Re: Tyre Placard. [1 Attachment]
To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
Received: Wednesday, 9 December, 2009, 6:37 AM

 

Ben,

Attached is a pic of the tyre placard on my Syncro.  This bears a VAG number and can reasonably be presumed to be the original placard fitted by VAG.

Regarding the cautionary aspect of the placard on your vehicle, I would have to dig through the ADRs for the period to see if it is ADR related.

Going back a bit earlier in VAG history, the owners handbooks for new Beetles always carried a section on tyres which stated (fahrvergnugen notwithstanding) that high speed driving was the enemy of long tyre life.  Given the level of tyre technology at the time, this was reasonable.  I wonder if the placard on your Syncro is a continuation of this earlier time.

Les

 


From: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com [mailto: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of bencroft96
Sent: 08 December 2009 22:28
To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Re: Tyre Placard.

 

 

The tyre placard is a sticker that is just under the nsf check strap,it reads.
RECOMENDED COLD TYRE IFLATION PRESSURE
Tyre-185 R-14c Rim-5 1/2 Jx14
FRONT 300kpa REAR 370kpa
Tyre-205 R-14c Rim-6Jx14
FRONT 250kpa REAR 300kpa
WHEN FITTED WITH THESE TYRES,THIS VEHICLE SHOULD NOT BE DRIVEN FOR PROLONGED PERIODS AT HIGH SPEEDS. T-2+5

I do have an Atco compliance plate with build date 6/89,rivited on osf,under check strap.
Maybe this warning has to do with the different tyre pressures front to rear?I cant be the only one with it though.

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com, "bencroft96" <bencroft96@ ...> wrote:
>
> Hang on guys,Ill go down and have a good look at it
>

 


See what's on at the movies in your area. Find out now.

Remember that the early Ateco syncros had 5 �� ��� rims. (and probably 185s)



> Les Harris <leslieharris@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>
> Roger,
>
> Without knowing the origin of the sticker on Ben���s Syncro, we are just
> speculating. I owned several Type 3s but have no recollection of the
> tyre
> placards on them. Ben���s sticker covers 5 �� ��� and 6��� rims, so would
> cover T3
> 2WD as well as AWD. The last characters ���T-2+5��� are a puzzle on their
> own.
> I have attached another pic of the placard on my Syncro, showing that it
> is
> in the same place as Ben���s ��� left hand A pillar immediately under the
> door
> check link.
>
>
>
> Ben,
>
> Is it possible for you to post a picture of your sticker? It might ring
> a
> bell with someone, either here or overseas. As you say, you can���t be
> the
> only one with it. Mine is an aluminium foil sticker. Is yours foil or
> paper?
>
>
>
> Could I ask everyone to take ten seconds to look at their own Syncro?
>
> Les
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Roger Bell
> Sent: 10 December 2009 00:12
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Tyre Placard.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I remember my brother had a square back type 3 VW in the 70's that had
> original equipment 6ply tyres -hardly a necessity given its weight/load
> capacity. The explanation he was given was they were just that bit more
> expensive to make the local content reach the desired percentage. I am
> sure
> all our syncros were fully imported but there could have been some
> similar
> loophole in tariffs as they shuttled between Germany and Austria in the
> 80's
> which gave an advantage to lesser spec tyres and hence the
> placard.(There's
> no such restriction on my foil ones for 14" and 16" wheels.)
>
> On the other hand this speculation may be just that- idle erroneous
> speculation on my part which wouldn't pass Les's first test of
> verifyable
> engineering knowledge..
>
> Don't they reckon if you are wondering whether there has been a
> conspiracy
> or a cockup always go for the cockup!
>
> Cheers
>
> Roger
>
>
>
> --- On Wed, 9/12/09, Les Harris <leslieharris@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>
>
> From: Les Harris <leslieharris@optusnet.com.au>
> Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Tyre Placard. [1 Attachment]
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Received: Wednesday, 9 December, 2009, 6:37 AM
>
>
>
> Ben,
>
> Attached is a pic of the tyre placard on my Syncro. This bears a VAG
> number
> and can reasonably be presumed to be the original placard fitted by VAG.
>
> Regarding the cautionary aspect of the placard on your vehicle, I would
> have
> to dig through the ADRs for the period to see if it is ADR related.
>
> Going back a bit earlier in VAG history, the owners handbooks for new
> Beetles always carried a section on tyres which stated (fahrvergnugen
> notwithstanding) that high speed driving was the enemy of long tyre
> life.
> Given the level of tyre technology at the time, this was reasonable. I
> wonder if the placard on your Syncro is a continuation of this earlier
> time.
>
> Les
>
>
>
>
> _____
>
>
> From: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com [mailto: Syncro_T3_Australia
> @yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of bencroft96
> Sent: 08 December 2009 22:28
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Re: Tyre Placard.
>
>
>
>
>
> The tyre placard is a sticker that is just under the nsf check strap,it
> reads.
> RECOMENDED COLD TYRE IFLATION PRESSURE
> Tyre-185 R-14c Rim-5 1/2 Jx14
> FRONT 300kpa REAR 370kpa
> Tyre-205 R-14c Rim-6Jx14
> FRONT 250kpa REAR 300kpa
> WHEN FITTED WITH THESE TYRES,THIS VEHICLE SHOULD NOT BE DRIVEN FOR
> PROLONGED
> PERIODS AT HIGH SPEEDS. T-2+5
>
> I do have an Atco compliance plate with build date 6/89,rivited on
> osf,under
> check strap.
> Maybe this warning has to do with the different tyre pressures front to
> rear?I cant be the only one with it though.
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia
> <http://au.mc531.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoo
> gro
> ups.com> @yahoogroups. com, "bencroft96" <bencroft96@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > Hang on guys,Ill go down and have a good look at it
> >
>
>
>
> _____
>
> See what's on at the movies in your area. Find out now
> <http://au.rd.yahoo.com/movies/mailtagline/*http:/au.movies.yahoo.com/ses
> sio
> n-times/> .

Phill,

This gets curiouser and curiouser. Mine was Ateco delivered and had 6” rims. Could the 5 ½ “ have been fitted to the early round headlight Syncros?

Les

PS: Your Plain Text emails frequently scramble part of the text. Have you considered using HTML?

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of plander@optusnet.com.au
Sent: 10 December 2009 10:52
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re:
Tyre
Placard.

 

Remember that the early Ateco syncros had 5 ½ “ rims. (and probably 185s)

 

 

 

Les,that is a different placard to mine and some others.I have had a long look through the owners manual and the only thing that it refers to in regards to high speed driving is damage to the enviroment or your ears.

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Les Harris" <leslieharris@...> wrote:
>
> Ben,
>
> Attached is a pic of the tyre placard on my Syncro. This bears a VAG number
> and can reasonably be presumed to be the original placard fitted by VAG.
>
> Regarding the cautionary aspect of the placard on your vehicle, I would have
> to dig through the ADRs for the period to see if it is ADR related.
>
> Going back a bit earlier in VAG history, the owners handbooks for new
> Beetles always carried a section on tyres which stated (fahrvergnugen
> notwithstanding) that high speed driving was the enemy of long tyre life.
> Given the level of tyre technology at the time, this was reasonable. I
> wonder if the placard on your Syncro is a continuation of this earlier time.
>
> Les
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of bencroft96
> Sent: 08 December 2009 22:28
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Tyre Placard.
>
>
>
>
>
> The tyre placard is a sticker that is just under the nsf check strap,it
> reads.
> RECOMENDED COLD TYRE IFLATION PRESSURE
> Tyre-185 R-14c Rim-5 1/2 Jx14
> FRONT 300kpa REAR 370kpa
> Tyre-205 R-14c Rim-6Jx14
> FRONT 250kpa REAR 300kpa
> WHEN FITTED WITH THESE TYRES,THIS VEHICLE SHOULD NOT BE DRIVEN FOR PROLONGED
> PERIODS AT HIGH SPEEDS. T-2+5
>
> I do have an Atco compliance plate with build date 6/89,rivited on osf,under
> check strap.
> Maybe this warning has to do with the different tyre pressures front to
> rear?I cant be the only one with it though.
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com>
> @yahoogroups.com, "bencroft96" <bencroft96@> wrote:
> >
> > Hang on guys,Ill go down and have a good look at it
> >
>
Hello all,as my computing skills are next to zero, one day I will be able to send photos.I am not the only one who has this sticker though.Phill,you know were I will be on monday.Maybe you could come and take some photos.

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Les Harris" <leslieharris@...> wrote:
>
> Roger,
>
> Without knowing the origin of the sticker on Ben's Syncro, we are just
> speculating. I owned several Type 3s but have no recollection of the tyre
> placards on them. Ben's sticker covers 5 ½ " and 6" rims, so would cover T3
> 2WD as well as AWD. The last characters "T-2+5" are a puzzle on their own.
> I have attached another pic of the placard on my Syncro, showing that it is
> in the same place as Ben's – left hand A pillar immediately under the door
> check link.
>
>
>
> Ben,
>
> Is it possible for you to post a picture of your sticker? It might ring a
> bell with someone, either here or overseas. As you say, you can't be the
> only one with it. Mine is an aluminium foil sticker. Is yours foil or
> paper?
>
>
>
> Could I ask everyone to take ten seconds to look at their own Syncro?
>
> Les
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Roger Bell
> Sent: 10 December 2009 00:12
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Tyre Placard.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I remember my brother had a square back type 3 VW in the 70's that had
> original equipment 6ply tyres -hardly a necessity given its weight/load
> capacity. The explanation he was given was they were just that bit more
> expensive to make the local content reach the desired percentage. I am sure
> all our syncros were fully imported but there could have been some similar
> loophole in tariffs as they shuttled between Germany and Austria in the 80's
> which gave an advantage to lesser spec tyres and hence the placard.(There's
> no such restriction on my foil ones for 14" and 16" wheels.)
>
> On the other hand this speculation may be just that- idle erroneous
> speculation on my part which wouldn't pass Les's first test of verifyable
> engineering knowledge..
>
> Don't they reckon if you are wondering whether there has been a conspiracy
> or a cockup always go for the cockup!
>
> Cheers
>
> Roger
>
>
>
> --- On Wed, 9/12/09, Les Harris <leslieharris@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Les Harris <leslieharris@...>
> Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Tyre Placard. [1 Attachment]
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Received: Wednesday, 9 December, 2009, 6:37 AM
>
>
>
> Ben,
>
> Attached is a pic of the tyre placard on my Syncro. This bears a VAG number
> and can reasonably be presumed to be the original placard fitted by VAG.
>
> Regarding the cautionary aspect of the placard on your vehicle, I would have
> to dig through the ADRs for the period to see if it is ADR related.
>
> Going back a bit earlier in VAG history, the owners handbooks for new
> Beetles always carried a section on tyres which stated (fahrvergnugen
> notwithstanding) that high speed driving was the enemy of long tyre life.
> Given the level of tyre technology at the time, this was reasonable. I
> wonder if the placard on your Syncro is a continuation of this earlier time.
>
> Les
>
>
>
>
> _____
>
>
> From: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com [mailto: Syncro_T3_Australia
> @yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of bencroft96
> Sent: 08 December 2009 22:28
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Re: Tyre Placard.
>
>
>
>
>
> The tyre placard is a sticker that is just under the nsf check strap,it
> reads.
> RECOMENDED COLD TYRE IFLATION PRESSURE
> Tyre-185 R-14c Rim-5 1/2 Jx14
> FRONT 300kpa REAR 370kpa
> Tyre-205 R-14c Rim-6Jx14
> FRONT 250kpa REAR 300kpa
> WHEN FITTED WITH THESE TYRES,THIS VEHICLE SHOULD NOT BE DRIVEN FOR PROLONGED
> PERIODS AT HIGH SPEEDS. T-2+5
>
> I do have an Atco compliance plate with build date 6/89,rivited on osf,under
> check strap.
> Maybe this warning has to do with the different tyre pressures front to
> rear?I cant be the only one with it though.
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia
> <http://au.mc531.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogro
> ups.com> @yahoogroups. com, "bencroft96" <bencroft96@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > Hang on guys,Ill go down and have a good look at it
> >
>
>
>
> _____
>
> See what's on at the movies in your area. Find out now
> <http://au.rd.yahoo.com/movies/mailtagline/*http:/au.movies.yahoo.com/sessio
> n-times/> .
>
Les,
This is my original 14"  wheel foil sticker which seems to be the same as yours in style and location. The 16" one was demanded and added when the original owner also purchased  factory 16" wheels. 
I agree my musings on the reason for the wording on Ben's sticker was pure speculation.
Cheers
Roger
--- On Thu, 10/12/09, bencroft96 <bencroft96@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: bencroft96 <bencroft96@yahoo.com>
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Tyre Placard.
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Received: Thursday, 10 December, 2009, 4:58 PM

 
Hello all,as my computing skills are next to zero, one day I will be able to send photos.I am not the only one who has this sticker though.Phill, you know were I will be on monday.Maybe you could come and take some photos.

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com, "Les Harris" <leslieharris@ ...> wrote:
>
> Roger,
>
> Without knowing the origin of the sticker on Ben's Syncro, we are just
> speculating. I owned several Type 3s but have no recollection of the tyre
> placards on them. Ben's sticker covers 5 ½ " and 6" rims, so would cover T3
> 2WD as well as AWD. The last characters "T-2+5" are a puzzle on their own.
> I have attached another pic of the placard on my Syncro, showing that it is
> in the same place as Ben's – left hand A pillar immediately under the door
> check link.
>
>
>
> Ben,
>
> Is it possible for you to post a picture of your sticker? It might ring a
> bell with someone, either here or overseas. As you say, you can't be the
> only one with it. Mine is an aluminium foil sticker. Is yours foil or
> paper?
>
>
>
> Could I ask everyone to take ten seconds to look at their own Syncro?
>
> Les
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Roger Bell
> Sent: 10 December 2009 00:12
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Re: Tyre Placard.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I remember my brother had a square back type 3 VW in the 70's that had
> original equipment 6ply tyres -hardly a necessity given its weight/load
> capacity. The explanation he was given was they were just that bit more
> expensive to make the local content reach the desired percentage. I am sure
> all our syncros were fully imported but there could have been some similar
> loophole in tariffs as they shuttled between Germany and Austria in the 80's
> which gave an advantage to lesser spec tyres and hence the placard.(There' s
> no such restriction on my foil ones for 14" and 16" wheels.)
>
> On the other hand this speculation may be just that- idle erroneous
> speculation on my part which wouldn't pass Les's first test of verifyable
> engineering knowledge..
>
> Don't they reckon if you are wondering whether there has been a conspiracy
> or a cockup always go for the cockup!
>
> Cheers
>
> Roger
>
>
>
> --- On Wed, 9/12/09, Les Harris <leslieharris@ ...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Les Harris <leslieharris@ ...>
> Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Re: Tyre Placard. [1 Attachment]
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> Received: Wednesday, 9 December, 2009, 6:37 AM
>
>
>
> Ben,
>
> Attached is a pic of the tyre placard on my Syncro. This bears a VAG number
> and can reasonably be presumed to be the original placard fitted by VAG.
>
> Regarding the cautionary aspect of the placard on your vehicle, I would have
> to dig through the ADRs for the period to see if it is ADR related.
>
> Going back a bit earlier in VAG history, the owners handbooks for new
> Beetles always carried a section on tyres which stated (fahrvergnugen
> notwithstanding) that high speed driving was the enemy of long tyre life.
> Given the level of tyre technology at the time, this was reasonable. I
> wonder if the placard on your Syncro is a continuation of this earlier time.
>
> Les
>
>
>
>
> _____
>
>
> From: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com [mailto: Syncro_T3_Australia
> @yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of bencroft96
> Sent: 08 December 2009 22:28
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Re: Tyre Placard.
>
>
>
>
>
> The tyre placard is a sticker that is just under the nsf check strap,it
> reads.
> RECOMENDED COLD TYRE IFLATION PRESSURE
> Tyre-185 R-14c Rim-5 1/2 Jx14
> FRONT 300kpa REAR 370kpa
> Tyre-205 R-14c Rim-6Jx14
> FRONT 250kpa REAR 300kpa
> WHEN FITTED WITH THESE TYRES,THIS VEHICLE SHOULD NOT BE DRIVEN FOR PROLONGED
> PERIODS AT HIGH SPEEDS. T-2+5
>
> I do have an Atco compliance plate with build date 6/89,rivited on osf,under
> check strap.
> Maybe this warning has to do with the different tyre pressures front to
> rear?I cant be the only one with it though.
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia
> <http://au.mc531. mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=Syncro_ T3_Australia% 40yahoogro
> ups.com> @yahoogroups. com, "bencroft96" <bencroft96@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > Hang on guys,Ill go down and have a good look at it
> >
>
>
>
> _____
>
> See what's on at the movies in your area. Find out now
> <http://au.rd. yahoo.com/ movies/mailtagli ne/*http: /au.movies. yahoo.com/ sessio
> n-times/> .
>



Win 1 of 4 Sony home entertainment packs thanks to Yahoo!7. Enter now.
Hi Roger,Do you have 16 inch wheels?Can you tell us what rim they are?What tyres do you run?I have recentley put Yoky A/Ts Tyres onboard,and have nothing but praise for the package.My vehicle is better than it ever has been.Buying tyres for 16 inch tyres was a major drama.

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Roger Bell <bellrmit@...> wrote:
>
> Les,
> This is my original 14" wheel foil sticker which seems to be the same as yours in style and location. The 16" one was demanded and added when the original owner also purchased  factory 16" wheels.Â
> I agree my musings on the reason for the wording on Ben's sticker was pure speculation.
> Cheers
> Roger
> --- On Thu, 10/12/09, bencroft96 <bencroft96@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: bencroft96 <bencroft96@...>
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Tyre Placard.
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Received: Thursday, 10 December, 2009, 4:58 PM
>
>
> Â
>
>
>
> Hello all,as my computing skills are next to zero, one day I will be able to send photos.I am not the only one who has this sticker though.Phill, you know were I will be on monday.Maybe you could come and take some photos.
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com, "Les Harris" <leslieharris@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > Roger,
> >
> > Without knowing the origin of the sticker on Ben's Syncro, we are just
> > speculating. I owned several Type 3s but have no recollection of the tyre
> > placards on them. Ben's sticker covers 5 ½ " and 6" rims, so would cover T3
> > 2WD as well as AWD. The last characters "T-2+5" are a puzzle on their own.
> > I have attached another pic of the placard on my Syncro, showing that it is
> > in the same place as Ben's â€" left hand A pillar immediately under the door
> > check link.
> >
> >
> >
> > Ben,
> >
> > Is it possible for you to post a picture of your sticker? It might ring a
> > bell with someone, either here or overseas. As you say, you can't be the
> > only one with it. Mine is an aluminium foil sticker. Is yours foil or
> > paper?
> >
> >
> >
> > Could I ask everyone to take ten seconds to look at their own Syncro?
> >
> > Les
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> > [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Roger Bell
> > Sent: 10 December 2009 00:12
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> > Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Re: Tyre Placard.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I remember my brother had a square back type 3 VW in the 70's that had
> > original equipment 6ply tyres -hardly a necessity given its weight/load
> > capacity. The explanation he was given was they were just that bit more
> > expensive to make the local content reach the desired percentage. I am sure
> > all our syncros were fully imported but there could have been some similar
> > loophole in tariffs as they shuttled between Germany and Austria in the 80's
> > which gave an advantage to lesser spec tyres and hence the placard.(There' s
> > no such restriction on my foil ones for 14" and 16" wheels.)
> >
> > On the other hand this speculation may be just that- idle erroneous
> > speculation on my part which wouldn't pass Les's first test of verifyable
> > engineering knowledge..
> >
> > Don't they reckon if you are wondering whether there has been a conspiracy
> > or a cockup always go for the cockup!
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Roger
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Wed, 9/12/09, Les Harris <leslieharris@ ...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Les Harris <leslieharris@ ...>
> > Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Re: Tyre Placard. [1 Attachment]
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> > Received: Wednesday, 9 December, 2009, 6:37 AM
> >
> >
> >
> > Ben,
> >
> > Attached is a pic of the tyre placard on my Syncro. This bears a VAG number
> > and can reasonably be presumed to be the original placard fitted by VAG.
> >
> > Regarding the cautionary aspect of the placard on your vehicle, I would have
> > to dig through the ADRs for the period to see if it is ADR related.
> >
> > Going back a bit earlier in VAG history, the owners handbooks for new
> > Beetles always carried a section on tyres which stated (fahrvergnugen
> > notwithstanding) that high speed driving was the enemy of long tyre life.
> > Given the level of tyre technology at the time, this was reasonable. I
> > wonder if the placard on your Syncro is a continuation of this earlier time.
> >
> > Les
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> >
> > From: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com [mailto: Syncro_T3_Australia
> > @yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of bencroft96
> > Sent: 08 December 2009 22:28
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Re: Tyre Placard.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > The tyre placard is a sticker that is just under the nsf check strap,it
> > reads.
> > RECOMENDED COLD TYRE IFLATION PRESSURE
> > Tyre-185 R-14c Rim-5 1/2 Jx14
> > FRONT 300kpa REAR 370kpa
> > Tyre-205 R-14c Rim-6Jx14
> > FRONT 250kpa REAR 300kpa
> > WHEN FITTED WITH THESE TYRES,THIS VEHICLE SHOULD NOT BE DRIVEN FOR PROLONGED
> > PERIODS AT HIGH SPEEDS. T-2+5
> >
> > I do have an Atco compliance plate with build date 6/89,rivited on osf,under
> > check strap.
> > Maybe this warning has to do with the different tyre pressures front to
> > rear?I cant be the only one with it though.
> >
> > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia
> > <http://au.mc531 mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=Syncro_ T3_Australia% 40yahoogro
> > ups.com> @yahoogroups. com, "bencroft96" <bencroft96@ ...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hang on guys,Ill go down and have a good look at it
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > See what's on at the movies in your area. Find out now
> > <http://au.rd yahoo.com/ movies/mailtagli ne/*http: /au.movies. yahoo.com/ sessio
> > n-times/> .
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> __________________________________________________________________________________
> Win 1 of 4 Sony home entertainment packs thanks to Yahoo!7.
> Enter now: http://au.docs.yahoo.com/homepageset/
>

Roger,

Well, we now know what the 16” placard looks like and we have a number for it.  Let’s see what Phill comes up with on Monday.

Les

 


From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Roger Bell
Sent: 10 December 2009 21:24
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Tyre Placard. [2 Attachments]

 

 

Ben, I'm jumping in and answering on Roger's behalf. He has a set of genuine VW 16" steel wheels. The sort that were fitted to the factory 16 Syncros.

Not many of them in Aus i imagine, they fetch a fair bit over in Europe.

Not sure what tyres they are though.

What rims are you running?

Gary

On 10/12/2009, at 9:44 PM, bencroft96 wrote:

 

Hi Roger,Do you have 16 inch wheels?Can you tell us what rim they are?What tyres do you run?I have recentley put Yoky A/Ts Tyres onboard,and have nothing but praise for the package.My vehicle is better than it ever has been.Buying tyres for 16 inch tyres was a major drama.

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com, Roger Bell <bellrmit@.. .> wrote:
>
> Les,
> This is my original 14"  wheel foil sticker which seems to be the same as yours in style and location. The 16" one was demanded and added when the original owner also purchased  factory 16" wheels. 
> I agree my musings on the reason for the wording on Ben's sticker was pure speculation.
> Cheers
> Roger
> --- On Thu, 10/12/09, bencroft96 <bencroft96@ ...> wrote:
>
>
> From: bencroft96 <bencroft96@ ...>
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Re: Tyre Placard.
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> Received: Thursday, 10 December, 2009, 4:58 PM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> Hello all,as my computing skills are next to zero, one day I will be able to send photos.I am not the only one who has this sticker though.Phill, you know were I will be on monday.Maybe you could come and take some photos.
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com, "Les Harris" <leslieharris@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > Roger,
> >
> > Without knowing the origin of the sticker on Ben's Syncro, we are just
> > speculating. I owned several Type 3s but have no recollection of the tyre
> > placards on them. Ben's sticker covers 5 ½ " and 6" rims, so would cover T3
> > 2WD as well as AWD. The last characters "T-2+5" are a puzzle on their own.
> > I have attached another pic of the placard on my Syncro, showing that it is
> > in the same place as Ben's â€" left hand A pillar immediately under the door
> > check link.
> >
> >
> >
> > Ben,
> >
> > Is it possible for you to post a picture of your sticker? It might ring a
> > bell with someone, either here or overseas. As you say, you can't be the
> > only one with it. Mine is an aluminium foil sticker. Is yours foil or
> > paper?
> >
> >
> >
> > Could I ask everyone to take ten seconds to look at their own Syncro?
> >
> > Les
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> > [mailto:Syncro_ T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Roger Bell
> > Sent: 10 December 2009 00:12
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> > Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Re: Tyre Placard.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I remember my brother had a square back type 3 VW in the 70's that had
> > original equipment 6ply tyres -hardly a necessity given its weight/load
> > capacity. The explanation he was given was they were just that bit more
> > expensive to make the local content reach the desired percentage. I am sure
> > all our syncros were fully imported but there could have been some similar
> > loophole in tariffs as they shuttled between Germany and Austria in the 80's
> > which gave an advantage to lesser spec tyres and hence the placard.(There' s
> > no such restriction on my foil ones for 14" and 16" wheels.)
> >
> > On the other hand this speculation may be just that- idle erroneous
> > speculation on my part which wouldn't pass Les's first test of verifyable
> > engineering knowledge..
> >
> > Don't they reckon if you are wondering whether there has been a conspiracy
> > or a cockup always go for the cockup!
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Roger
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Wed, 9/12/09, Les Harris <leslieharris@ ...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Les Harris <leslieharris@ ...>
> > Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Re: Tyre Placard. [1 Attachment]
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> > Received: Wednesday, 9 December, 2009, 6:37 AM
> >
> >
> >
> > Ben,
> >
> > Attached is a pic of the tyre placard on my Syncro. This bears a VAG number
> > and can reasonably be presumed to be the original placard fitted by VAG.
> >
> > Regarding the cautionary aspect of the placard on your vehicle, I would have
> > to dig through the ADRs for the period to see if it is ADR related.
> >
> > Going back a bit earlier in VAG history, the owners handbooks for new
> > Beetles always carried a section on tyres which stated (fahrvergnugen
> > notwithstanding) that high speed driving was the enemy of long tyre life.
> > Given the level of tyre technology at the time, this was reasonable. I
> > wonder if the placard on your Syncro is a continuation of this earlier time.
> >
> > Les
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> >
> > From: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com [mailto: Syncro_T3_Australia
> > @yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of bencroft96
> > Sent: 08 December 2009 22:28
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Re: Tyre Placard.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > The tyre placard is a sticker that is just under the nsf check strap,it
> > reads.
> > RECOMENDED COLD TYRE IFLATION PRESSURE
> > Tyre-185 R-14c Rim-5 1/2 Jx14
> > FRONT 300kpa REAR 370kpa
> > Tyre-205 R-14c Rim-6Jx14
> > FRONT 250kpa REAR 300kpa
> > WHEN FITTED WITH THESE TYRES,THIS VEHICLE SHOULD NOT BE DRIVEN FOR PROLONGED
> > PERIODS AT HIGH SPEEDS. T-2+5
> >
> > I do have an Atco compliance plate with build date 6/89,rivited on osf,under
> > check strap.
> > Maybe this warning has to do with the different tyre pressures front to
> > rear?I cant be the only one with it though.
> >
> > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia
> > <http://au.mc531. mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=Syncro_ T3_Australia% 40yahoogro
> > ups.com> @yahoogroups. com, "bencroft96" <bencroft96@ ...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hang on guys,Ill go down and have a good look at it
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > See what's on at the movies in your area. Find out now
> > <http://au.rd. yahoo.com/ movies/mailtagli ne/*http: /au.movies. yahoo.com/ sessio
> > n-times/> .
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
> Win 1 of 4 Sony home entertainment packs thanks to Yahoo!7.
> Enter now: http://au.docs. yahoo.com/ homepageset/
>


Gary,I run Audi 16x7 off an A4 or A6???I will get the part number of the wheels on monday,and let you all know.Where can I get a couple of those 16 inch steel VW wheels,does anyone know?I would buy two ,if someone has them.I have been trying to buy merc wheels 16x7,but no one seems to have just one or two.I really dont want to buy 4 or 5.Does anyone know where I can get a couple of 16x7 Merc rims?

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Gary Cookson <gary@...> wrote:
>
> Ben, I'm jumping in and answering on Roger's behalf. He has a set of genuine VW 16" steel wheels. The sort that were fitted to the factory 16 Syncros.
>
> Not many of them in Aus i imagine, they fetch a fair bit over in Europe.
>
> Not sure what tyres they are though.
>
> What rims are you running?
>
> Gary
>
> On 10/12/2009, at 9:44 PM, bencroft96 wrote:
>
> > Hi Roger,Do you have 16 inch wheels?Can you tell us what rim they are?What tyres do you run?I have recentley put Yoky A/Ts Tyres onboard,and have nothing but praise for the package.My vehicle is better than it ever has been.Buying tyres for 16 inch tyres was a major drama.
> >
> > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Roger Bell <bellrmit@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Les,
> > > This is my original 14" wheel foil sticker which seems to be the same as yours in style and location. The 16" one was demanded and added when the original owner also purchased  factory 16" wheels.Â
> > > I agree my musings on the reason for the wording on Ben's sticker was pure speculation.
> > > Cheers
> > > Roger
> > > --- On Thu, 10/12/09, bencroft96 <bencroft96@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: bencroft96 <bencroft96@>
> > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Tyre Placard.
> > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > Received: Thursday, 10 December, 2009, 4:58 PM
> > >
> > >
> > > Â
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello all,as my computing skills are next to zero, one day I will be able to send photos.I am not the only one who has this sticker though.Phill, you know were I will be on monday.Maybe you could come and take some photos.
> > >
> > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com, "Les Harris" <leslieharris@ ...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Roger,
> > > >
> > > > Without knowing the origin of the sticker on Ben's Syncro, we are just
> > > > speculating. I owned several Type 3s but have no recollection of the tyre
> > > > placards on them. Ben's sticker covers 5 ½ " and 6" rims, so would cover T3
> > > > 2WD as well as AWD. The last characters "T-2+5" are a puzzle on their own.
> > > > I have attached another pic of the placard on my Syncro, showing that it is
> > > > in the same place as Ben's â€" left hand A pillar immediately under the door
> > > > check link.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ben,
> > > >
> > > > Is it possible for you to post a picture of your sticker? It might ring a
> > > > bell with someone, either here or overseas. As you say, you can't be the
> > > > only one with it. Mine is an aluminium foil sticker. Is yours foil or
> > > > paper?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Could I ask everyone to take ten seconds to look at their own Syncro?
> > > >
> > > > Les
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _____
> > > >
> > > > From: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> > > > [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Roger Bell
> > > > Sent: 10 December 2009 00:12
> > > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> > > > Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Re: Tyre Placard.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I remember my brother had a square back type 3 VW in the 70's that had
> > > > original equipment 6ply tyres -hardly a necessity given its weight/load
> > > > capacity. The explanation he was given was they were just that bit more
> > > > expensive to make the local content reach the desired percentage. I am sure
> > > > all our syncros were fully imported but there could have been some similar
> > > > loophole in tariffs as they shuttled between Germany and Austria in the 80's
> > > > which gave an advantage to lesser spec tyres and hence the placard.(There' s
> > > > no such restriction on my foil ones for 14" and 16" wheels.)
> > > >
> > > > On the other hand this speculation may be just that- idle erroneous
> > > > speculation on my part which wouldn't pass Les's first test of verifyable
> > > > engineering knowledge..
> > > >
> > > > Don't they reckon if you are wondering whether there has been a conspiracy
> > > > or a cockup always go for the cockup!
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
> > > >
> > > > Roger
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- On Wed, 9/12/09, Les Harris <leslieharris@ ...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: Les Harris <leslieharris@ ...>
> > > > Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Re: Tyre Placard. [1 Attachment]
> > > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> > > > Received: Wednesday, 9 December, 2009, 6:37 AM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ben,
> > > >
> > > > Attached is a pic of the tyre placard on my Syncro. This bears a VAG number
> > > > and can reasonably be presumed to be the original placard fitted by VAG.
> > > >
> > > > Regarding the cautionary aspect of the placard on your vehicle, I would have
> > > > to dig through the ADRs for the period to see if it is ADR related.
> > > >
> > > > Going back a bit earlier in VAG history, the owners handbooks for new
> > > > Beetles always carried a section on tyres which stated (fahrvergnugen
> > > > notwithstanding) that high speed driving was the enemy of long tyre life.
> > > > Given the level of tyre technology at the time, this was reasonable. I
> > > > wonder if the placard on your Syncro is a continuation of this earlier time.
> > > >
> > > > Les
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _____
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com [mailto: Syncro_T3_Australia
> > > > @yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of bencroft96
> > > > Sent: 08 December 2009 22:28
> > > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> > > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Re: Tyre Placard.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The tyre placard is a sticker that is just under the nsf check strap,it
> > > > reads.
> > > > RECOMENDED COLD TYRE IFLATION PRESSURE
> > > > Tyre-185 R-14c Rim-5 1/2 Jx14
> > > > FRONT 300kpa REAR 370kpa
> > > > Tyre-205 R-14c Rim-6Jx14
> > > > FRONT 250kpa REAR 300kpa
> > > > WHEN FITTED WITH THESE TYRES,THIS VEHICLE SHOULD NOT BE DRIVEN FOR PROLONGED
> > > > PERIODS AT HIGH SPEEDS. T-2+5
> > > >
> > > > I do have an Atco compliance plate with build date 6/89,rivited on osf,under
> > > > check strap.
> > > > Maybe this warning has to do with the different tyre pressures front to
> > > > rear?I cant be the only one with it though.
> > > >
> > > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia
> > > > <http://au.mc531 mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=Syncro_ T3_Australia% 40yahoogro
> > > > ups.com> @yahoogroups. com, "bencroft96" <bencroft96@ ...> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hang on guys,Ill go down and have a good look at it
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _____
> > > >
> > > > See what's on at the movies in your area. Find out now
> > > > <http://au.rd yahoo.com/ movies/mailtagli ne/*http: /au.movies. yahoo.com/ sessio
> > > > n-times/> .
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > __________________________________________________________
> > > Win 1 of 4 Sony home entertainment packs thanks to Yahoo!7.
> > > Enter now: http://au.docs.yahoo.com/homepageset/
> > >
> >
> >
>
Hi Fellows,
I'm currently running 215/70R16 Cooper Discoverer H/T Tyres on the VW 51/2" x 16 rims. I bought 4 almost new tyres from someone who changed the original rims on a Toyota Hilux plus 2 new ones to give me 6 to circulate with 2 spares.I went for the predominately road tyre with the lower 70 profile as I find the majority of my driving is on bitumen and I was looking for something relatively quiet, longlasting with reasonable grip and roadholding. Ideally I would also have an aggressive set of mud tyres for going off road but I compromise by carrying chains if I am going somewhere really muddy.
 I previously had Hankook Dynamic RF04 which was a block pattern 80/20 all terrain tyre with a slightly higher profile but narrower section (205 x 75). I got about 60,000kms circulating the 6 of them. I haven't found too much trouble getting the tyres I want with the 16" rims but I would have more options if they were 6" wide instead of 51/2" The slightly lower profile of the current tyres also means I can fit the chains on all wheels whereas before I only had enough clearance for the front wheels.
You can see from my postings I am a little old lady who only uses the syncro to go to church on Sundays.
Cheers
Roger
PS I have my original 14" rims/tyres/hubcaps advertised on the www.kombiclub.com site as I found I haven't used them.

--- On Thu, 10/12/09, Gary Cookson <gary@twentytwentyone.net> wrote:

From: Gary Cookson <gary@twentytwentyone.net>
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Tyre Placard.
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Received: Thursday, 10 December, 2009, 7:04 PM

 
Ben, I'm jumping in and answering on Roger's behalf. He has a set of genuine VW 16" steel wheels. The sort that were fitted to the factory 16 Syncros.

Not many of them in Aus i imagine, they fetch a fair bit over in Europe.

Not sure what tyres they are though.

What rims are you running?

Gary

On 10/12/2009, at 9:44 PM, bencroft96 wrote:

 
Hi Roger,Do you have 16 inch wheels?Can you tell us what rim they are?What tyres do you run?I have recentley put Yoky A/Ts Tyres onboard,and have nothing but praise for the package.My vehicle is better than it ever has been.Buying tyres for 16 inch tyres was a major drama.

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com, Roger Bell <bellrmit@.. .> wrote:
>
> Les,
> This is my original 14"  wheel foil sticker which seems to be the same as yours in style and location. The 16" one was demanded and added when the original owner also purchased  factory 16" wheels. 
> I agree my musings on the reason for the wording on Ben's sticker was pure speculation.
> Cheers
> Roger
> --- On Thu, 10/12/09, bencroft96 <bencroft96@ ...> wrote:
>
>
> From: bencroft96 <bencroft96@ ...>
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Re: Tyre Placard.
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> Received: Thursday, 10 December, 2009, 4:58 PM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> Hello all,as my computing skills are next to zero, one day I will be able to send photos.I am not the only one who has this sticker though.Phill, you know were I will be on monday.Maybe you could come and take some photos.
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com, "Les Harris" <leslieharris@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > Roger,
> >
> > Without knowing the origin of the sticker on Ben's Syncro, we are just
> > speculating. I owned several Type 3s but have no recollection of the tyre
> > placards on them. Ben's sticker covers 5 ½ " and 6" rims, so would cover T3
> > 2WD as well as AWD. The last characters "T-2+5" are a puzzle on their own.
> > I have attached another pic of the placard on my Syncro, showing that it is
> > in the same place as Ben's â€" left hand A pillar immediately under the door
> > check link.
> >
> >
> >
> > Ben,
> >
> > Is it possible for you to post a picture of your sticker? It might ring a
> > bell with someone, either here or overseas. As you say, you can't be the
> > only one with it. Mine is an aluminium foil sticker. Is yours foil or
> > paper?
> >
> >
> >
> > Could I ask everyone to take ten seconds to look at their own Syncro?
> >
> > Les
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> > [mailto:Syncro_ T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Roger Bell
> > Sent: 10 December 2009 00:12
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> > Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Re: Tyre Placard.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I remember my brother had a square back type 3 VW in the 70's that had
> > original equipment 6ply tyres -hardly a necessity given its weight/load
> > capacity. The explanation he was given was they were just that bit more
> > expensive to make the local content reach the desired percentage. I am sure
> > all our syncros were fully imported but there could have been some similar
> > loophole in tariffs as they shuttled between Germany and Austria in the 80's
> > which gave an advantage to lesser spec tyres and hence the placard.(There' s
> > no such restriction on my foil ones for 14" and 16" wheels.)
> >
> > On the other hand this speculation may be just that- idle erroneous
> > speculation on my part which wouldn't pass Les's first test of verifyable
> > engineering knowledge..
> >
> > Don't they reckon if you are wondering whether there has been a conspiracy
> > or a cockup always go for the cockup!
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Roger
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Wed, 9/12/09, Les Harris <leslieharris@ ...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Les Harris <leslieharris@ ...>
> > Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Re: Tyre Placard. [1 Attachment]
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> > Received: Wednesday, 9 December, 2009, 6:37 AM
> >
> >
> >
> > Ben,
> >
> > Attached is a pic of the tyre placard on my Syncro. This bears a VAG number
> > and can reasonably be presumed to be the original placard fitted by VAG.
> >
> > Regarding the cautionary aspect of the placard on your vehicle, I would have
> > to dig through the ADRs for the period to see if it is ADR related.
> >
> > Going back a bit earlier in VAG history, the owners handbooks for new
> > Beetles always carried a section on tyres which stated (fahrvergnugen
> > notwithstanding) that high speed driving was the enemy of long tyre life.
> > Given the level of tyre technology at the time, this was reasonable. I
> > wonder if the placard on your Syncro is a continuation of this earlier time.
> >
> > Les
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> >
> > From: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com [mailto: Syncro_T3_Australia
> > @yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of bencroft96
> > Sent: 08 December 2009 22:28
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Re: Tyre Placard.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > The tyre placard is a sticker that is just under the nsf check strap,it
> > reads.
> > RECOMENDED COLD TYRE IFLATION PRESSURE
> > Tyre-185 R-14c Rim-5 1/2 Jx14
> > FRONT 300kpa REAR 370kpa
> > Tyre-205 R-14c Rim-6Jx14
> > FRONT 250kpa REAR 300kpa
> > WHEN FITTED WITH THESE TYRES,THIS VEHICLE SHOULD NOT BE DRIVEN FOR PROLONGED
> > PERIODS AT HIGH SPEEDS. T-2+5
> >
> > I do have an Atco compliance plate with build date 6/89,rivited on osf,under
> > check strap.
> > Maybe this warning has to do with the different tyre pressures front to
> > rear?I cant be the only one with it though.
> >
> > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia
> > <http://au.mc531. mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=Syncro_ T3_Australia% 40yahoogro
> > ups.com> @yahoogroups. com, "bencroft96" <bencroft96@ ...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hang on guys,Ill go down and have a good look at it
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > See what's on at the movies in your area. Find out now
> > <http://au.rd. yahoo.com/ movies/mailtagli ne/*http: /au.movies. yahoo.com/ sessio
> > n-times/> .
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
> Win 1 of 4 Sony home entertainment packs thanks to Yahoo!7.
> Enter now: http://au.docs. yahoo.com/ homepageset/
>




See what's on at the movies in your area. Find out now.
Roger,do you know the diameter of your tyres?Do you have any clearance probs?I just wonder if we had of gone to the 75 series,would we be scrubbing,on lock.How is the drivability of your bus?Acceleration,uphill etc?

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Roger Bell <bellrmit@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Fellows,
> I'm currently running 215/70R16 Cooper Discoverer H/T Tyres on the VW 51/2" x 16 rims. I bought 4 almost new tyres from someone who changed the original rims on a Toyota Hilux plus 2 new ones to give me 6 to circulate with 2 spares.I went for the predominately road tyre with the lower 70 profile as I find the majority of my driving is on bitumen and I was looking for something relatively quiet, longlasting with reasonable grip and roadholding. Ideally I would also have an aggressive set of mud tyres for going off road but I compromise by carrying chains if I am going somewhere really muddy.
> Â I previously had Hankook Dynamic RF04 which was a block pattern 80/20 all terrain tyre with a slightly higher profile but narrower section (205 x 75). I got about 60,000kms circulating the 6 of them. I haven't found too much trouble getting the tyres I want with the 16" rims but I would have more options if they were 6" wide instead of 51/2" The slightly lower profile of the current tyres also means I can fit the chains on all wheels whereas before I only had enough clearance for the front wheels.
> You can see from my postings I am a little old lady who only uses the syncro to go to church on Sundays.
> Cheers
> Roger
> PS I have my original 14" rims/tyres/hubcaps advertised on the www.kombiclub.com site as I found IÂ haven't used them.
>
> --- On Thu, 10/12/09, Gary Cookson <gary@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Gary Cookson <gary@...>
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Tyre Placard.
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Received: Thursday, 10 December, 2009, 7:04 PM
>
>
> Â
>
>
>
> Ben, I'm jumping in and answering on Roger's behalf. He has a set of genuine VW 16" steel wheels. The sort that were fitted to the factory 16 Syncros.
>
>
> Not many of them in Aus i imagine, they fetch a fair bit over in Europe.
>
>
>
> Not sure what tyres they are though.
>
>
> What rims are you running?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Gary
>
>
> On 10/12/2009, at 9:44 PM, bencroft96 wrote:
>
>
>
> Â
>
> Hi Roger,Do you have 16 inch wheels?Can you tell us what rim they are?What tyres do you run?I have recentley put Yoky A/Ts Tyres onboard,and have nothing but praise for the package.My vehicle is better than it ever has been.Buying tyres for 16 inch tyres was a major drama.
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com, Roger Bell <bellrmit@ .> wrote:
> >
> > Les,
> > This is my original 14" wheel foil sticker which seems to be the same as yours in style and location. The 16" one was demanded and added when the original owner also purchased  factory 16" wheels.ÂÂ
> > I agree my musings on the reason for the wording on Ben's sticker was pure speculation.
> > Cheers
> > Roger
> > --- On Thu, 10/12/09, bencroft96 <bencroft96@ ...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: bencroft96 <bencroft96@ ...>
> > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Re: Tyre Placard.
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> > Received: Thursday, 10 December, 2009, 4:58 PM
> >
> >
> > ÂÂ
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello all,as my computing skills are next to zero, one day I will be able to send photos.I am not the only one who has this sticker though.Phill, you know were I will be on monday.Maybe you could come and take some photos.
> >
> > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com, "Les Harris" <leslieharris@ ...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Roger,
> > >
> > > Without knowing the origin of the sticker on Ben's Syncro, we are just
> > > speculating. I owned several Type 3s but have no recollection of the tyre
> > > placards on them. Ben's sticker covers 5 ½ " and 6" rims, so would cover T3
> > > 2WD as well as AWD. The last characters "T-2+5" are a puzzle on their own.
> > > I have attached another pic of the placard on my Syncro, showing that it is
> > > in the same place as Ben's â€" left hand A pillar immediately under the door
> > > check link.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Ben,
> > >
> > > Is it possible for you to post a picture of your sticker? It might ring a
> > > bell with someone, either here or overseas. As you say, you can't be the
> > > only one with it. Mine is an aluminium foil sticker. Is yours foil or
> > > paper?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Could I ask everyone to take ten seconds to look at their own Syncro?
> > >
> > > Les
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _____
> > >
> > > From: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> > > [mailto:Syncro_ T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Roger Bell
> > > Sent: 10 December 2009 00:12
> > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> > > Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Re: Tyre Placard.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I remember my brother had a square back type 3 VW in the 70's that had
> > > original equipment 6ply tyres -hardly a necessity given its weight/load
> > > capacity. The explanation he was given was they were just that bit more
> > > expensive to make the local content reach the desired percentage. I am sure
> > > all our syncros were fully imported but there could have been some similar
> > > loophole in tariffs as they shuttled between Germany and Austria in the 80's
> > > which gave an advantage to lesser spec tyres and hence the placard.(There' s
> > > no such restriction on my foil ones for 14" and 16" wheels.)
> > >
> > > On the other hand this speculation may be just that- idle erroneous
> > > speculation on my part which wouldn't pass Les's first test of verifyable
> > > engineering knowledge..
> > >
> > > Don't they reckon if you are wondering whether there has been a conspiracy
> > > or a cockup always go for the cockup!
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Roger
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On Wed, 9/12/09, Les Harris <leslieharris@ ...> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Les Harris <leslieharris@ ...>
> > > Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Re: Tyre Placard. [1 Attachment]
> > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> > > Received: Wednesday, 9 December, 2009, 6:37 AM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Ben,
> > >
> > > Attached is a pic of the tyre placard on my Syncro. This bears a VAG number
> > > and can reasonably be presumed to be the original placard fitted by VAG.
> > >
> > > Regarding the cautionary aspect of the placard on your vehicle, I would have
> > > to dig through the ADRs for the period to see if it is ADR related.
> > >
> > > Going back a bit earlier in VAG history, the owners handbooks for new
> > > Beetles always carried a section on tyres which stated (fahrvergnugen
> > > notwithstanding) that high speed driving was the enemy of long tyre life.
> > > Given the level of tyre technology at the time, this was reasonable. I
> > > wonder if the placard on your Syncro is a continuation of this earlier time.
> > >
> > > Les
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _____
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com [mailto: Syncro_T3_Australia
> > > @yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of bencroft96
> > > Sent: 08 December 2009 22:28
> > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Re: Tyre Placard.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The tyre placard is a sticker that is just under the nsf check strap,it
> > > reads.
> > > RECOMENDED COLD TYRE IFLATION PRESSURE
> > > Tyre-185 R-14c Rim-5 1/2 Jx14
> > > FRONT 300kpa REAR 370kpa
> > > Tyre-205 R-14c Rim-6Jx14
> > > FRONT 250kpa REAR 300kpa
> > > WHEN FITTED WITH THESE TYRES,THIS VEHICLE SHOULD NOT BE DRIVEN FOR PROLONGED
> > > PERIODS AT HIGH SPEEDS. T-2+5
> > >
> > > I do have an Atco compliance plate with build date 6/89,rivited on osf,under
> > > check strap.
> > > Maybe this warning has to do with the different tyre pressures front to
> > > rear?I cant be the only one with it though.
> > >
> > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia
> > > <http://au.mc531 mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=Syncro_ T3_Australia% 40yahoogro
> > > ups.com> @yahoogroups. com, "bencroft96" <bencroft96@ ...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hang on guys,Ill go down and have a good look at it
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _____
> > >
> > > See what's on at the movies in your area. Find out now
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