Van Cut Out

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Strange behaviour from the van this afternoon. Waiting at the lights in traffic in Brighton-Le-Sands and the van just cut out. The second stage fan had just cut in then nothing. No electrics, nothing. Had to get pushed out of the road to the dismay of impatient Sydney drivers.

Thought it might have been the ignition switch so set about installing the spare then tried the ignition again. The van had cooled down and now lights on the dash but would not turnover. A friendly T3 enthusiast helped push start the van successfully (and make me an offer for the van).

Set off home with the heater on full trying not to set off the second stage fan again. Strangeness continued on the way home when the heater fan cut out and now will not work. Got back home but left the van running for a while and the second stage cooling fan kicks in ok. The van will not start again now though but lights on the dash ok.

The second stage fan has been acting a bit strange recently in that it would cycle on/off fast around the time when it kicked in. Not all the time but just something I noticed.

Thoughts?

I will probably change the ignition switch for good measure anyway.

Thanks.

Jon.
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Jon. When you say second stage fan does this mean the first (quieter one) had already cut in? And another thing, did you have air con going at the time? Not much expertise on those issues Jon but if you’re replacing the ignition switch I strongly recommend also putting in the relays for the headlights that are available as this will prevent your switch frying at night. Has happened to me. The lights current goes through the switch.

Peter from Port

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Jon that is an odd set of symptoms. You need to start with the basics. Earth leads inc dash. Battery terminals and since it is so easy I would take a good look at the fuse block. Gregor

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On 24 Nov 2015, at 4:13 PM, 'Peter Coe' peter@coeconsult.com.au [Syncro_T3_Australia] <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Jon. When you say second stage fan does this mean the first (quieter one) had already cut in? And another thing, did you have air con going at the time? Not much expertise on those issues Jon but if you’re replacing the ignition switch I strongly recommend also putting in the relays for the headlights that are available as this will prevent your switch frying at night. Has happened to me. The lights current goes through the switch.

Peter from Port

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Hi Peter,

Yes the quieter (first stage) fan was already running but my experience is that there is not much time between this and the second stage fan being triggered. When the van cut out it almost seemed like the current draw from the second stage fan killed a fuse or something. Hoping the new ignition switch solves the issue. I have read that they can be quite unreliable.

Also, the alternator belt needs tightening as the when the second stage fan kicks in it squeals. Presumably the second fan stage puts more load on the alternator. I will attend to this as well.

Thanks for the tip on the relays. I have these but un-fitted (another job).  Presumably you also took the opportunity to fit more powerful bulbs?

-- 
Jon Bartlett
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On 24 November 2015 at 4:13:49 pm, 'Peter Coe' peter@coeconsult.com.au [Syncro_T3_Australia] (syncro_t3_australia@yahoogroups.com) wrote:

 

Jon. When you say second stage fan does this mean the first (quieter one) had already cut in? And another thing, did you have air con going at the time? Not much expertise on those issues Jon but if you’re replacing the ignition switch I strongly recommend also putting in the relays for the headlights that are available as this will prevent your switch frying at night. Has happened to me. The lights current goes through the switch.

Peter from Port

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Thanks Greg. Will check these as well. I forgot to mention that I fitted a new car stereo this week. Could be too much of a coincidence? The stereo works fine but will triple check my work. I was quite proud of myself in finding a head unit that actually fits flush into the small single din opening in the dash. All previous head units I tried never fit length ways.

-- 
Jon Bartlett
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On 24 November 2015 at 5:03:00 pm, gregespo73@yahoo.com [Syncro_T3_Australia] (syncro_t3_australia@yahoogroups.com) wrote:

 
Jon that is an odd set of symptoms. You need to start with the basics. Earth leads inc dash. Battery terminals and since it is so easy I would take a good look at the fuse block. Gregor

Sent from Greg's iPhone

On 24 Nov 2015, at 4:13 PM, 'Peter Coe' peter@coeconsult.com.au [Syncro_T3_Australia] <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Jon. When you say second stage fan does this mean the first (quieter one) had already cut in? And another thing, did you have air con going at the time? Not much expertise on those issues Jon but if you’re replacing the ignition switch I strongly recommend also putting in the relays for the headlights that are available as this will prevent your switch frying at night. Has happened to me. The lights current goes through the switch.

Peter from Port

6

That’s interesting Jon. I sometimes have the first stage kick in but it’s very rare that it then goes to the second. Even when idling in the driveway to get the engine up to operating temp for work mine only ever cycles to the first stage and off again. Could more cooling issues there for you I think.

Yes, I put in better bulbs as well and am much happier at night now. Peter

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Hi Jon,

How long since you had a new radiator?

Also that fan switch is on the radiator and maybe it is in need of replacement.

Cheers,

Skot


On 24/11/2015 3:46 PM, Jon Bartlett mail@jaybe.net [Syncro_T3_Australia] wrote:
Strange behaviour from the van this afternoon. Waiting at the lights in traffic in Brighton-Le-Sands and the van just cut out. The second stage fan had just cut in then nothing. No electrics, nothing. Had to get pushed out of the road to the dismay of impatient Sydney drivers.

Thought it might have been the ignition switch so set about installing the spare then tried the ignition again. The van had cooled down and now lights on the dash but would not turnover. A friendly T3 enthusiast helped push start the van successfully (and make me an offer for the van).

Set off home with the heater on full trying not to set off the second stage fan again. Strangeness continued on the way home when the heater fan cut out and now will not work. Got back home but left the van running for a while and the second stage cooling fan kicks in ok. The van will not start again now though but lights on the dash ok.

The second stage fan has been acting a bit strange recently in that it would cycle on/off fast around the time when it kicked in. Not all the time but just something I noticed.

Thoughts?

I will probably change the ignition switch for good measure anyway.

Thanks.

Jon.

8

Hi Scott,

Reading some stuff online points to issues with running the high speed fan for prolonged periods. Seems like the wiring isn't up to the job in the long term.

So ultimate fix is probably to stop the fast fan meaning more efficient cooling.

The rad is probably original. Where to get a new one? Syncro specific I seem to remember and was there an Australian version (thicker)?

Thanks.

Jon

On 24 Nov 2015 9:56 pm, "Scott Pitcher spbconsulting@bigpond.com [Syncro_T3_Australia]" <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Hi Jon,

How long since you had a new radiator?

Also that fan switch is on the radiator and maybe it is in need of replacement.

Cheers,

Skot


On 24/11/2015 3:46 PM, Jon Bartlett mail@jaybe.net [Syncro_T3_Australia] wrote:
Strange behaviour from the van this afternoon. Waiting at the lights in traffic in Brighton-Le-Sands and the van just cut out. The second stage fan had just cut in then nothing. No electrics, nothing. Had to get pushed out of the road to the dismay of impatient Sydney drivers.

Thought it might have been the ignition switch so set about installing the spare then tried the ignition again. The van had cooled down and now lights on the dash but would not turnover. A friendly T3 enthusiast helped push start the van successfully (and make me an offer for the van).

Set off home with the heater on full trying not to set off the second stage fan again. Strangeness continued on the way home when the heater fan cut out and now will not work. Got back home but left the van running for a while and the second stage cooling fan kicks in ok. The van will not start again now though but lights on the dash ok.

The second stage fan has been acting a bit strange recently in that it would cycle on/off fast around the time when it kicked in. Not all the time but just something I noticed.

Thoughts?

I will probably change the ignition switch for good measure anyway.

Thanks.

Jon.

9
Hi Jon,

I got mine from Wyong radiators about 4 years ago for about $400.00.

It was the correct 45mm thick Behr radiator.

Not sure of the cost and availability now but at least they had access to the correct radiator back then - I cant see why that would have changed.

I also got a set of stainless steel radiator pipes which will release heat much better.

Between the two my syncro runs much cooler...

Cheers,

Skot

On 24/11/2015 10:27 PM, Jon Bartlett mail@jaybe.net [Syncro_T3_Australia] wrote:

Hi Scott,

Reading some stuff online points to issues with running the high speed fan for prolonged periods. Seems like the wiring isn't up to the job in the long term.

So ultimate fix is probably to stop the fast fan meaning more efficient cooling.

The rad is probably original. Where to get a new one? Syncro specific I seem to remember and was there an Australian version (thicker)?

Thanks.

Jon

On 24 Nov 2015 9:56 pm, "Scott Pitcher spbconsulting@bigpond.com [Syncro_T3_Australia]" <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Hi Jon,

How long since you had a new radiator?

Also that fan switch is on the radiator and maybe it is in need of replacement.

Cheers,

Skot


On 24/11/2015 3:46 PM, Jon Bartlett mail@jaybe.net [Syncro_T3_Australia] wrote:
Strange behaviour from the van this afternoon. Waiting at the lights in traffic in Brighton-Le-Sands and the van just cut out. The second stage fan had just cut in then nothing. No electrics, nothing. Had to get pushed out of the road to the dismay of impatient Sydney drivers.

Thought it might have been the ignition switch so set about installing the spare then tried the ignition again. The van had cooled down and now lights on the dash but would not turnover. A friendly T3 enthusiast helped push start the van successfully (and make me an offer for the van).

Set off home with the heater on full trying not to set off the second stage fan again. Strangeness continued on the way home when the heater fan cut out and now will not work. Got back home but left the van running for a while and the second stage cooling fan kicks in ok. The van will not start again now though but lights on the dash ok.

The second stage fan has been acting a bit strange recently in that it would cycle on/off fast around the time when it kicked in. Not all the time but just something I noticed.

Thoughts?

I will probably change the ignition switch for good measure anyway.

Thanks.

Jon.


10
Hi Scott, Jon and all,
From notes I made at the time way back then, both you and Graham Adams sourced the Behr 068.121.253.E radiator from:
Wyong Radiator Repairs
Bay 1/6 Ace Crescent Tuggerah
Phone: 02 43521781

I believe WRR sourced from a supplier in Newcastle.
I also have some other associated part codes for Grahams purchase, how exactly they relate I've forgotten, someone would have to ask Graham but my notes glean the following extra info from his purchase: VW 2109162 and/or 8MK 376 713-631.

I know in the past some members have discovered after purchase that the radiator sourced from Tooley Imports and/or just Kampers are lower capacity radiators i.e., the core width is too narrow. For example JK's is stated as only 30mm:
Maybe it's a typo error, 30mm seems terribly thin. It's also the wrong part number for a syncro.

I have to say I'm confused about what passes today as an 068.121.253.E radiator compared with the original 25 years ago.
For example it's been more recently stated that the dimensions of the syncro radiator are 570W x 440H x 45D.
A while back I attempted to measure the dimensions of my radiator in situ, not easy to do but I came up with the following because I wanted some benchmark to then be able compare dimensions as stated by others or suppliers:
My radiator measured overall 648W x 455H x 50D.
Take off the two x 30mm end tanks leaves a core size of 588W x 455H x 50D. The 50D would have been the overall depth measurement of the core fins, can't remember if the core was less than the fin depth to bring it back to 45D.
The bottom support/locating lugs are 642mm centre to centre, this would be an important measurement for correct fit.

So I'd suggest proceeding cautiously with any radiator purchase and confirm measurements first before committing.
Cheers.
Ken






To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2015 13:42:40 +1100
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Van Cut Out

 
Hi Jon,

I got mine from Wyong radiators about 4 years ago for about $400.00.

It was the correct 45mm thick Behr radiator.

Not sure of the cost and availability now but at least they had access to the correct radiator back then - I cant see why that would have changed.

I also got a set of stainless steel radiator pipes which will release heat much better.

Between the two my syncro runs much cooler...

Cheers,

Skot


On 24/11/2015 10:27 PM, Jon Bartlett mail@jaybe.net [Syncro_T3_Australia] wrote:
 

Hi Scott,

Reading some stuff online points to issues with running the high speed fan for prolonged periods. Seems like the wiring isn't up to the job in the long term.

So ultimate fix is probably to stop the fast fan meaning more efficient cooling.

The rad is probably original. Where to get a new one? Syncro specific I seem to remember and was there an Australian version (thicker)?

Thanks.

Jon

On 24 Nov 2015 9:56 pm, "Scott Pitcher spbconsulting@bigpond.com [Syncro_T3_Australia]" <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 
Hi Jon,

How long since you had a new radiator?

Also that fan switch is on the radiator and maybe it is in need of replacement.

Cheers,

Skot



On 24/11/2015 3:46 PM, Jon Bartlett mail@jaybe.net [Syncro_T3_Australia] wrote:
 
Strange behaviour from the van this afternoon. Waiting at the lights in traffic in Brighton-Le-Sands and the van just cut out. The second stage fan had just cut in then nothing. No electrics, nothing. Had to get pushed out of the road to the dismay of impatient Sydney drivers.

Thought it might have been the ignition switch so set about installing the spare then tried the ignition again. The van had cooled down and now lights on the dash but would not turnover. A friendly T3 enthusiast helped push start the van successfully (and make me an offer for the van). 

Set off home with the heater on full trying not to set off the second stage fan again. Strangeness continued on the way home when the heater fan cut out and now will not work. Got back home but left the van running for a while and the second stage cooling fan kicks in ok. The van will not start again now though but lights on the dash ok.

The second stage fan has been acting a bit strange recently in that it would cycle on/off fast around the time when it kicked in. Not all the time but just something I noticed.

Thoughts? 

I will probably change the ignition switch for good measure anyway.

Thanks.

Jon.



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I agree Ken,

I first bought a radiator from JK and realised when the box was opened that it was the small core.

I since sold it on to a 2wd Owner (sorry about that).

Then I bought the real syncro radiator from Wyong Radiators.

Very happy camper since.

The 30mm core radiators are suitable for northern European markets (not our oven like climate).

Cheers,

Skot

On 25/11/2015 9:44 PM, Ken Garratt unclekenz@hotmail.com [Syncro_T3_Australia] wrote:

Hi Scott, Jon and all,
From notes I made at the time way back then, both you and Graham Adams sourced the Behr 068.121.253.E radiator from:
Wyong Radiator Repairs
Bay 1/6 Ace Crescent Tuggerah
Phone: 02 43521781

I believe WRR sourced from a supplier in Newcastle.
I also have some other associated part codes for Grahams purchase, how exactly they relate I've forgotten, someone would have to ask Graham but my notes glean the following extra info from his purchase: VW 2109162 and/or 8MK 376 713-631.

I know in the past some members have discovered after purchase that the radiator sourced from Tooley Imports and/or just Kampers are lower capacity radiators i.e., the core width is too narrow. For example JK's is stated as only 30mm:
Maybe it's a typo error, 30mm seems terribly thin. It's also the wrong part number for a syncro.

I have to say I'm confused about what passes today as an 068.121.253.E radiator compared with the original 25 years ago.
For example it's been more recently stated that the dimensions of the syncro radiator are 570W x 440H x 45D.
A while back I attempted to measure the dimensions of my radiator in situ, not easy to do but I came up with the following because I wanted some benchmark to then be able compare dimensions as stated by others or suppliers:
My radiator measured overall 648W x 455H x 50D.
Take off the two x 30mm end tanks leaves a core size of 588W x 455H x 50D. The 50D would have been the overall depth measurement of the core fins, can't remember if the core was less than the fin depth to bring it back to 45D.
The bottom support/locating lugs are 642mm centre to centre, this would be an important measurement for correct fit.

So I'd suggest proceeding cautiously with any radiator purchase and confirm measurements first before committing.
Cheers.
Ken






To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2015 13:42:40 +1100
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Van Cut Out

Hi Jon,

I got mine from Wyong radiators about 4 years ago for about $400.00.

It was the correct 45mm thick Behr radiator.

Not sure of the cost and availability now but at least they had access to the correct radiator back then - I cant see why that would have changed.

I also got a set of stainless steel radiator pipes which will release heat much better.

Between the two my syncro runs much cooler...

Cheers,

Skot


On 24/11/2015 10:27 PM, Jon Bartlett mail@jaybe.net [Syncro_T3_Australia] wrote:

Hi Scott,

Reading some stuff online points to issues with running the high speed fan for prolonged periods. Seems like the wiring isn't up to the job in the long term.

So ultimate fix is probably to stop the fast fan meaning more efficient cooling.

The rad is probably original. Where to get a new one? Syncro specific I seem to remember and was there an Australian version (thicker)?

Thanks.

Jon

On 24 Nov 2015 9:56 pm, "Scott Pitcher spbconsulting@bigpond.com [Syncro_T3_Australia]" <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Hi Jon,

How long since you had a new radiator?

Also that fan switch is on the radiator and maybe it is in need of replacement.

Cheers,

Skot



On 24/11/2015 3:46 PM, Jon Bartlett mail@jaybe.net [Syncro_T3_Australia] wrote:
Strange behaviour from the van this afternoon. Waiting at the lights in traffic in Brighton-Le-Sands and the van just cut out. The second stage fan had just cut in then nothing. No electrics, nothing. Had to get pushed out of the road to the dismay of impatient Sydney drivers.

Thought it might have been the ignition switch so set about installing the spare then tried the ignition again. The van had cooled down and now lights on the dash but would not turnover. A friendly T3 enthusiast helped push start the van successfully (and make me an offer for the van).

Set off home with the heater on full trying not to set off the second stage fan again. Strangeness continued on the way home when the heater fan cut out and now will not work. Got back home but left the van running for a while and the second stage cooling fan kicks in ok. The van will not start again now though but lights on the dash ok.

The second stage fan has been acting a bit strange recently in that it would cycle on/off fast around the time when it kicked in. Not all the time but just something I noticed.

Thoughts?

I will probably change the ignition switch for good measure anyway.

Thanks.

Jon.




12
Is there enough interest out there to organise a group purchase of custom-made radiators?

There are some excellent manufacturers of quality radiators in Australia that could be approached to fabricate a much better quality radiator than is currently available, to the original dimensions.

All that is required is for somebody to loan an original radiator for use as a pattern.

How many people are interested?

Cheers, Roger Bayley.
13
Hi Roger,
Yes I'd be interested in joining a group purchase.
Perhaps it would be timely if members can offer design features/improvements to the present radiator, for incorporating into the order.
Cheers.
Ken




-------- Original message --------
From: "Roger Bayley gullyraker53@gmail.com [Syncro_T3_Australia]" <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 27/11/2015 1:57 PM (GMT+10:00)
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Radiator replacement


 

Is there enough interest out there to organise a group purchase of custom-made radiators?

There are some excellent manufacturers of quality radiators in Australia that could be approached to fabricate a much better quality radiator than is currently available, to the original dimensions.

All that is required is for somebody to loan an original radiator for use as a pattern.

How many people are interested?

Cheers, Roger Bayley.

14

Sounds like a great idea. Count me in as would love to support local manufacturing. Perhaps the design could incorporate features for the recent hot weather conditions.

Jon.

On 27 Nov 2015 9:27 pm, "unclekenz unclekenz@hotmail.com [Syncro_T3_Australia]" <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Hi Roger,

Yes I'd be interested in joining a group purchase.
Perhaps it would be timely if members can offer design features/improvements to the present radiator, for incorporating into the order.
Cheers.
Ken




-------- Original message --------
From: "Roger Bayley gullyraker53@gmail.com [Syncro_T3_Australia]" <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 27/11/2015 1:57 PM (GMT+10:00)
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Radiator replacement


Is there enough interest out there to organise a group purchase of custom-made radiators?

There are some excellent manufacturers of quality radiators in Australia that could be approached to fabricate a much better quality radiator than is currently available, to the original dimensions.

All that is required is for somebody to loan an original radiator for use as a pattern.

How many people are interested?

Cheers, Roger Bayley.

15

Thanks all for the information. Will let you know how I get on finding a replacement.

On 25 Nov 2015 9:44 pm, "Ken Garratt unclekenz@hotmail.com [Syncro_T3_Australia]" <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Hi Scott, Jon and all,
From notes I made at the time way back then, both you and Graham Adams sourced the Behr 068.121.253.E radiator from:
Wyong Radiator Repairs
Bay 1/6 Ace Crescent Tuggerah

I believe WRR sourced from a supplier in Newcastle.
I also have some other associated part codes for Grahams purchase, how exactly they relate I've forgotten, someone would have to ask Graham but my notes glean the following extra info from his purchase: VW 2109162 and/or 8MK 376 713-631.

I know in the past some members have discovered after purchase that the radiator sourced from Tooley Imports and/or just Kampers are lower capacity radiators i.e., the core width is too narrow. For example JK's is stated as only 30mm:
Maybe it's a typo error, 30mm seems terribly thin. It's also the wrong part number for a syncro.

I have to say I'm confused about what passes today as an 068.121.253.E radiator compared with the original 25 years ago.
For example it's been more recently stated that the dimensions of the syncro radiator are 570W x 440H x 45D.
A while back I attempted to measure the dimensions of my radiator in situ, not easy to do but I came up with the following because I wanted some benchmark to then be able compare dimensions as stated by others or suppliers:
My radiator measured overall 648W x 455H x 50D.
Take off the two x 30mm end tanks leaves a core size of 588W x 455H x 50D. The 50D would have been the overall depth measurement of the core fins, can't remember if the core was less than the fin depth to bring it back to 45D.
The bottom support/locating lugs are 642mm centre to centre, this would be an important measurement for correct fit.

So I'd suggest proceeding cautiously with any radiator purchase and confirm measurements first before committing.
Cheers.
Ken






To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2015 13:42:40 +1100
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Van Cut Out

Hi Jon,

I got mine from Wyong radiators about 4 years ago for about $400.00.

It was the correct 45mm thick Behr radiator.

Not sure of the cost and availability now but at least they had access to the correct radiator back then - I cant see why that would have changed.

I also got a set of stainless steel radiator pipes which will release heat much better.

Between the two my syncro runs much cooler...

Cheers,

Skot


On 24/11/2015 10:27 PM, Jon Bartlett mail@jaybe.net [Syncro_T3_Australia] wrote:

Hi Scott,

Reading some stuff online points to issues with running the high speed fan for prolonged periods. Seems like the wiring isn't up to the job in the long term.

So ultimate fix is probably to stop the fast fan meaning more efficient cooling.

The rad is probably original. Where to get a new one? Syncro specific I seem to remember and was there an Australian version (thicker)?

Thanks.

Jon

On 24 Nov 2015 9:56 pm, "Scott Pitcher spbconsulting@bigpond.com [Syncro_T3_Australia]" <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Hi Jon,

How long since you had a new radiator?

Also that fan switch is on the radiator and maybe it is in need of replacement.

Cheers,

Skot



On 24/11/2015 3:46 PM, Jon Bartlett mail@jaybe.net [Syncro_T3_Australia] wrote:
Strange behaviour from the van this afternoon. Waiting at the lights in traffic in Brighton-Le-Sands and the van just cut out. The second stage fan had just cut in then nothing. No electrics, nothing. Had to get pushed out of the road to the dismay of impatient Sydney drivers.

Thought it might have been the ignition switch so set about installing the spare then tried the ignition again. The van had cooled down and now lights on the dash but would not turnover. A friendly T3 enthusiast helped push start the van successfully (and make me an offer for the van).

Set off home with the heater on full trying not to set off the second stage fan again. Strangeness continued on the way home when the heater fan cut out and now will not work. Got back home but left the van running for a while and the second stage cooling fan kicks in ok. The van will not start again now though but lights on the dash ok.

The second stage fan has been acting a bit strange recently in that it would cycle on/off fast around the time when it kicked in. Not all the time but just something I noticed.

Thoughts?

I will probably change the ignition switch for good measure anyway.

Thanks.

Jon.



16
Good idea Ken. I have always dreamed of having a bleed-valve on top of the radiator, with a flexible hose, so that you can save the coolant expelled during the bleeding process without making a mess.

Perhaps an all-aluminium radiator would be the go, to dispense with the troublesome plastic tanks and O ring seals.

Can we start a new thread to gauge the interest out there. I'm thinking that the more that we order, the cheaper they will be.

Roger B.


17
And one for me please
Doka Hart

Sent from my WalkingStick!

On 27/11/2015, at 1:42, "Jon Bartlett mail@jaybe.net [Syncro_T3_Australia]" <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Sounds like a great idea. Count me in as would love to support local manufacturing. Perhaps the design could incorporate features for the recent hot weather conditions.

Jon.

On 27 Nov 2015 9:27 pm, "unclekenz unclekenz@hotmail.com [Syncro_T3_Australia]" <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Hi Roger,

Yes I'd be interested in joining a group purchase.
Perhaps it would be timely if members can offer design features/improvements to the present radiator, for incorporating into the order.
Cheers.
Ken




-------- Original message --------
From: "Roger Bayley gullyraker53@gmail.com [Syncro_T3_Australia]" <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 27/11/2015 1:57 PM (GMT+10:00)
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Radiator replacement


 

Is there enough interest out there to organise a group purchase of custom-made radiators?

There are some excellent manufacturers of quality radiators in Australia that could be approached to fabricate a much better quality radiator than is currently available, to the original dimensions.

All that is required is for somebody to loan an original radiator for use as a pattern.

How many people are interested?

Cheers, Roger Bayley.

18

Add me to the list Roger. What a great idea.

Peter from Port

19
Me too.
Bob
 
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 4:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Radiator replacement
 
 

And one for me please
Doka Hart

Sent from my WalkingStick!

On 27/11/2015, at 1:42, "Jon Bartlett mail@jaybe.net [Syncro_T3_Australia]" <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Sounds like a great idea. Count me in as would love to support local manufacturing. Perhaps the design could incorporate features for the recent hot weather conditions.

Jon.

On 27 Nov 2015 9:27 pm, "unclekenz unclekenz@hotmail.com [Syncro_T3_Australia]" <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Hi Roger,

Yes I'd be interested in joining a group purchase.
Perhaps it would be timely if members can offer design features/improvements to the present radiator, for incorporating into the order.
Cheers.
Ken
 



-------- Original message --------
From: "Roger Bayley gullyraker53@gmail.com [Syncro_T3_Australia]" <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 27/11/2015 1:57 PM (GMT+10:00)
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Radiator replacement


 
Is there enough interest out there to organise a group purchase of custom-made radiators?
 
There are some excellent manufacturers of quality radiators in Australia that could be approached to fabricate a much better quality radiator than is currently available, to the original dimensions.
 
All that is required is for somebody to loan an original radiator for use as a pattern.
 
How many people are interested?
 
Cheers, Roger Bayley.
20
Hi,

Im would be interested in such a project.  
PWR are located near the Gold Coast / Brisbane.
Quite impressive credentials from reading their website..
Good to support Aussie Manufacturing.


 
Rowan Hardinge 



On Saturday, 28 November 2015, 9:13, "'RC Dale' rcdale@bigpond.com [Syncro_T3_Australia]" <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
Me too.
Bob
 
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 4:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Radiator replacement
 
 
And one for me please
Doka Hart

Sent from my WalkingStick!

On 27/11/2015, at 1:42, "Jon Bartlett mail@jaybe.net [Syncro_T3_Australia]" <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 
Sounds like a great idea. Count me in as would love to support local manufacturing. Perhaps the design could incorporate features for the recent hot weather conditions.
Jon.
On 27 Nov 2015 9:27 pm, "unclekenz unclekenz@hotmail.com [Syncro_T3_Australia]" <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 
Hi Roger,
Yes I'd be interested in joining a group purchase.
Perhaps it would be timely if members can offer design features/improvements to the present radiator, for incorporating into the order.
Cheers.
Ken
 



-------- Original message --------
From: "Roger Bayley gullyraker53@gmail.com [Syncro_T3_Australia]" <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 27/11/2015 1:57 PM (GMT+10:00)
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Radiator replacement


 
Is there enough interest out there to organise a group purchase of custom-made radiators?
 
There are some excellent manufacturers of quality radiators in Australia that could be approached to fabricate a much better quality radiator than is currently available, to the original dimensions.
 
All that is required is for somebody to loan an original radiator for use as a pattern.
 
How many people are interested?
 
Cheers, Roger Bayley.