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Ha Ken, I know you were interested in this stuff  – shady tree hey. In no time you’ll be sprawled under some fancy pants awning sipping a beer and wondering how you ever did without it. J  In the mean time I’ll probably be sticking my fishing suctions to the side of the bus and struggling  with my poles and ropes in the wind, kids crying...

 

Cheers Murray

 

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ken Garratt
Sent: Wednesday, 9 December 2009 1:52 PM
To: Syncro _T3_Australia forum
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Side Awning Info

 

 

Murray,
I'm quite content to sit back and let you do all the legwork on this fly awning idea ok.
Just sort out all the issues .... test it for for me on a trip and then let me know what you think alright.
I'm even willing to be patient with you for your detailed report in due course ... haha TIA. Cheers.
Ken
 

To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: murray.lee@usyd.edu.au
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 13:16:01 +1100
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Side Awning Info

 

Indeed Gary, with two kids (like us, ours are 7 and 10) or more you need a good camp-site system. If you are staying more than overnight a tent or awning of some kind is a necessity. This has to be balanced with what can fit in the bus for travel. The value of a good awning is that it takes up no inside space I suspect. 

 

Cheers Murray

 

On 09/12/2009, at 12:57 PM, Gary Cookson wrote:

 

I'm finding the same, just had a weekend away without the awning or tent and the kids filled the van with junk within seconds.

 

We went with a bunch of friends who all had small kids and tents and they were packed up ready to leave ages before us. 

 

Hmm, need to get a bit more organised methinks.

 

Gary

 

 

 

On 09/12/2009, at 12:50 PM, Mr Scott Pitcher wrote:

 

 

 

Yes,

 

Very difficult to decide what and who to take and leave behind.

 

Tents are bulky but seem necessary with more than 1 child. We need the tent even with #1 child in the roof bunk and # 2 child on the floor bunk. Hence everyone is in the syncro but all the crap is in the tent. Only really necessary for wet weather but necessary all the same.

 

Cheers,

 

Scott

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Murray Lee

Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:38 PM

Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Side Awning Info

 

 

 

Yes, interesting Scott. The manufacturers Fiamma seem to suggest that having it fitted at highway speed is not a problem, but I would like to speak to someone with one who regularly does. They seem to be around the $500 mark and available from suppliers online, so if they were to slide into my rope guide this would be an easy and relative cheap option. 

 

We already have a good quick to erect Black Wolf touring tent and my aim is to be able to set the tent entrance under the awning for a nice outside space for the family but also to enable a quick pack up and drive.  Ahh the kit hey! 

 

Cheers M

 

 

On 09/12/2009, at 12:15 PM, Mr Scott Pitcher wrote:

 

 

Murray,

 

I would anticipate that a bag awning style would flap around madly under highway speeds which would damage it? - But I could easily be wrong.

 

I would at least question that issue.

 

We have decided to get a JustKampers Awning tent from the Bus Stop as I have 3 females to deal with who like to spread themselves out. Only takes 2 pegs and a couple of clamps to set it up on the car. The trick is putting it up every time - takes me about an hour - well it did the first time.

 

Cheers,

 

Scott

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Murray Lee

Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:59 AM

Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Side Awning Info

 

 

 

Hi Ken,

 

Yes, the fixing part is the thing that concerns me a little. I notice Faimma also make a 'bag' type which is easily removable and slips into and out of a rope track which can be secured with screws into the track. As I already have a rope track on this side this has some attraction but I wonder how this would fare when driving as apparently you can keep them fixed in the track while on the move. 

Cheers M

 

 

 

On 09/12/2009, at 11:05 AM, Ken Garratt wrote:

 

Murray,
I'd suggest proceeding with caution. Essentially I had the idea the awning is great but the means of fastening it .... especially to withstand long term reliable trouble free fastening on our fibreglass poptops can be problematic. Worse for offroaders of course. Good luck.
Ken
 

To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: murray.lee@usyd.edu.au
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 10:38:32 +1100
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Side Awning Info

 

Hi Mark,

 

Thanks for this. I'm assuming your awning is the 2.5m version? Also, can you tell me how it is fixed to the van? I've just been speaking to the supplier and it seems leke there may be a range of options as to how to fix it. 

 

Cheers Murray

 

On 08/12/2009, at 11:42 PM, Mark Kofahl wrote:

 

Murray

 

I have the Fiamma F45 - an excellent awning. No real disadvantages other than I broke the plastic lug once which required a $10 replacement. 

 

Distributor in NSW is Camec at Ingleburn.

 

Regards

Mark.

 

On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Murray Lee <murray.lee@usyd.edu.au> wrote:

 

 

Hi All,


 

I’m considering buying a side roll out awning for the Trakka Syncro. Mark I know yours works quite well. Are there pros and cons with these? Have others had good or bad experiences with brands, distributors, or manufacturers of these? I’m after something that can be erected and rolled up very quickly for overnighters. I’m in Sydney so I’d be keen to know of local suppliers.


 

Cheers

Murray


 


 

 

 

 

 

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My boys (2.5 and 5) love to grab the poles and play star wars while i am wrestling with my ancient canvas awning, usually whacking the van  with the pointy bits as well.

I also dream of a fancy pants awning...

Gary


On 09/12/2009, at 4:25 PM, Murray Lee wrote:

 

Ha Ken, I know you were interested in this stuff  – shady tree hey. In no time you’ll be sprawled under some fancy pants awning sipping a beer and wondering how you ever did without it. J  In the mean time I’ll probably be sticking my fishing suctions to the side of the bus and struggling  with my poles and ropes in the wind, kids crying...

 

Cheers Murray

 

From: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com [mailto:Syncro_ T3_Australia@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Ken Garratt
Sent: Wednesday, 9 December 2009 1:52 PM
To: Syncro _T3_Australia forum
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Side Awning Info

 

 

Murray,
I'm quite content to sit back and let you do all the legwork on this fly awning idea ok.
Just sort out all the issues .... test it for for me on a trip and then let me know what you think alright.
I'm even willing to be patient with you for your detailed report in due course ... haha TIA. Cheers.
Ken
 

To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
From: murray.lee@usyd.edu.au
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 13:16:01 +1100
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Side Awning Info

 

Indeed Gary, with two kids (like us, ours are 7 and 10) or more you need a good camp-site system. If you are staying more than overnight a tent or awning of some kind is a necessity. This has to be balanced with what can fit in the bus for travel. The value of a good awning is that it takes up no inside space I suspect. 

 

Cheers Murray

 

On 09/12/2009, at 12:57 PM, Gary Cookson wrote:

 

I'm finding the same, just had a weekend away without the awning or tent and the kids filled the van with junk within seconds.

 

We went with a bunch of friends who all had small kids and tents and they were packed up ready to leave ages before us. 

 

Hmm, need to get a bit more organised methinks.

 

Gary

 

 

 

On 09/12/2009, at 12:50 PM, Mr Scott Pitcher wrote:

 

 

 

Yes,

 

Very difficult to decide what and who to take and leave behind.

 

Tents are bulky but seem necessary with more than 1 child. We need the tent even with #1 child in the roof bunk and # 2 child on the floor bunk. Hence everyone is in the syncro but all the crap is in the tent. Only really necessary for wet weather but necessary all the same.

 

Cheers,

 

Scott

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Murray Lee

Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:38 PM

Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Side Awning Info

 

 

 

Yes, interesting Scott. The manufacturers Fiamma seem to suggest that having it fitted at highway speed is not a problem, but I would like to speak to someone with one who regularly does. They seem to be around the $500 mark and available from suppliers online, so if they were to slide into my rope guide this would be an easy and relative cheap option. 

 

We already have a good quick to erect Black Wolf touring tent and my aim is to be able to set the tent entrance under the awning for a nice outside space for the family but also to enable a quick pack up and drive.  Ahh the kit hey! 

 

Cheers M

 

 

On 09/12/2009, at 12:15 PM, Mr Scott Pitcher wrote:

 

 

Murray,

 

I would anticipate that a bag awning style would flap around madly under highway speeds which would damage it? - But I could easily be wrong.

 

I would at least question that issue.

 

We have decided to get a JustKampers Awning tent from the Bus Stop as I have 3 females to deal with who like to spread themselves out. Only takes 2 pegs and a couple of clamps to set it up on the car. The trick is putting it up every time - takes me about an hour - well it did the first time.

 

Cheers,

 

Scott

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Murray Lee

Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:59 AM

Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Side Awning Info

 

 

 

Hi Ken,

 

Yes, the fixing part is the thing that concerns me a little. I notice Faimma also make a 'bag' type which is easily removable and slips into and out of a rope track which can be secured with screws into the track. As I already have a rope track on this side this has some attraction but I wonder how this would fare when driving as apparently you can keep them fixed in the track while on the move. 

Cheers M

 

 

 

On 09/12/2009, at 11:05 AM, Ken Garratt wrote:

 

Murray,
I'd suggest proceeding with caution. Essentially I had the idea the awning is great but the means of fastening it .... especially to withstand long term reliable trouble free fastening on our fibreglass poptops can be problematic. Worse for offroaders of course. Good luck.
Ken
 

To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
From: murray.lee@usyd.edu.au
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 10:38:32 +1100
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Side Awning Info

 

Hi Mark,

 

Thanks for this. I'm assuming your awning is the 2.5m version? Also, can you tell me how it is fixed to the van? I've just been speaking to the supplier and it seems leke there may be a range of options as to how to fix it. 

 

Cheers Murray

 

On 08/12/2009, at 11:42 PM, Mark Kofahl wrote:

 

Murray

 

I have the Fiamma F45 - an excellent awning. No real disadvantages other than I broke the plastic lug once which required a $10 replacement. 

 

Distributor in NSW is Camec at Ingleburn.

 

Regards

Mark.

 

On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Murray Lee <murray.lee@usyd. edu.au> wrote:

 

 

Hi All,


 

I’m considering buying a side roll out awning for the Trakka Syncro. Mark I know yours works quite well. Are there pros and cons with these? Have others had good or bad experiences with brands, distributors, or manufacturers of these? I’m after something that can be erected and rolled up very quickly for overnighters. I’m in Sydney so I’d be keen to know of local suppliers.


 

Cheers

Murray


 


 

 

 

 

 

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Nigel,

This is the advantage of the sail track attachment.  . 

Set-up goes something like this:

  • Tip awning and poles out of bag = 20 seconds. 
  • Feed awning edge into sail track = 1 minute max. 
  • Set out front pole, hammer in peg, fit guy rope = thirty seconds. 
  • Ditto rear pole = thirty seconds. 
  • Fit higher centre pole if it is raining = thirty seconds.
  • Set-up = 3 minutes. 

Any wind strong enough to rip the awning out of the sail track would blow the Syncro away as well.  (The strength of the sail track is immense.)  In my T2 days, I used the awning in remarkably high winds and all it did was flap a bit.

Suction caps would have very concentrated loads versus the full-length load distribution of the sail track.  The set-up time would be about the same but for lesser results. 

Set-up time would be faster with a Faimma type arrangement but only if it is already fixed securely to the vehicle, which has its own limitations when on bush tracks. 

Les

 

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of n h
Sent: 09 December 2009 15:54
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Side Awning Info

 

 A fly sheet, two poles and guys, and a pair of the large suction caps designed to hold fishing rods on the roof creates a great shade/rain space alongside the van for little time, effort or cash - but struggles in high wind.

 

Cheers

 

24

Ken, I had a rare solo three days in Canberra last week staying in the van, pushbike on back for local transport. I must say it is a very pleasant retreat for the lone syncro pilot.

 

Cheers M

 

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gary Cookson
Sent: Wednesday, 9 December 2009 2:03 PM
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Side Awning Info

 

 

Ken, sounds great, man and machine in perfect harmony. Syncros need quality time too...

 

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On 09/12/2009, at 1:46 PM, Ken Garratt wrote:



 

Gary,
Flying solo .... the syncro Trakka is fabulous .... haha. Heh I even get to make all the decisions! Yippee!
 
Otherwise, the answer is ...... one syncro for him and one for her and the kids. No worries.
Ken
 

To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: gary@twentytwentyone.net
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 12:57:32 +1100
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Side Awning Info

 

I'm finding the same, just had a weekend away without the awning or tent and the kids filled the van with junk within seconds.

 

We went with a bunch of friends who all had small kids and tents and they were packed up ready to leave ages before us. 

 

Hmm, need to get a bit more organised methinks.

 

Gary

 

 

 

On 09/12/2009, at 12:50 PM, Mr Scott Pitcher wrote:

 

 

 

Yes,

 

Very difficult to decide what and who to take and leave behind.

 

Tents are bulky but seem necessary with more than 1 child. We need the tent even with #1 child in the roof bunk and # 2 child on the floor bunk. Hence everyone is in the syncro but all the crap is in the tent. Only really necessary for wet weather but necessary all the same.

 

Cheers,

 

Scott

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Murray Lee

Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:38 PM

Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Side Awning Info

 

 

 

Yes, interesting Scott. The manufacturers Fiamma seem to suggest that having it fitted at highway speed is not a problem, but I would like to speak to someone with one who regularly does. They seem to be around the $500 mark and available from suppliers online, so if they were to slide into my rope guide this would be an easy and relative cheap option. 

 

We already have a good quick to erect Black Wolf touring tent and my aim is to be able to set the tent entrance under the awning for a nice outside space for the family but also to enable a quick pack up and drive.  Ahh the kit hey! 

 

Cheers M

 

 

On 09/12/2009, at 12:15 PM, Mr Scott Pitcher wrote:

 

 

Murray,

 

I would anticipate that a bag awning style would flap around madly under highway speeds which would damage it? - But I could easily be wrong.

 

I would at least question that issue.

 

We have decided to get a JustKampers Awning tent from the Bus Stop as I have 3 females to deal with who like to spread themselves out. Only takes 2 pegs and a couple of clamps to set it up on the car. The trick is putting it up every time - takes me about an hour - well it did the first time.

 

Cheers,

 

Scott

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Murray Lee

Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:59 AM

Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Side Awning Info

 

 

 

Hi Ken,

 

Yes, the fixing part is the thing that concerns me a little. I notice Faimma also make a 'bag' type which is easily removable and slips into and out of a rope track which can be secured with screws into the track. As I already have a rope track on this side this has some attraction but I wonder how this would fare when driving as apparently you can keep them fixed in the track while on the move. 

Cheers M

 

 

 

On 09/12/2009, at 11:05 AM, Ken Garratt wrote:

 

Murray,
I'd suggest proceeding with caution. Essentially I had the idea the awning is great but the means of fastening it .... especially to withstand long term reliable trouble free fastening on our fibreglass poptops can be problematic. Worse for offroaders of course. Good luck.
Ken
 

To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: murray.lee@usyd.edu.au
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 10:38:32 +1100
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Side Awning Info

 

Hi Mark,

 

Thanks for this. I'm assuming your awning is the 2.5m version? Also, can you tell me how it is fixed to the van? I've just been speaking to the supplier and it seems leke there may be a range of options as to how to fix it. 

 

Cheers Murray

 

On 08/12/2009, at 11:42 PM, Mark Kofahl wrote:

 

Murray

 

I have the Fiamma F45 - an excellent awning. No real disadvantages other than I broke the plastic lug once which required a $10 replacement. 

 

Distributor in NSW is Camec at Ingleburn.

 

Regards

Mark.

 

On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Murray Lee <murray.lee@usyd.edu.au> wrote:

 

 

Hi All,


 

I’m considering buying a side roll out awning for the Trakka Syncro. Mark I know yours works quite well. Are there pros and cons with these? Have others had good or bad experiences with brands, distributors, or manufacturers of these? I’m after something that can be erected and rolled up very quickly for overnighters. I’m in Sydney so I’d be keen to know of local suppliers.


 

Cheers

Murray


 


 

 

 

 

 

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Les. I agree with your KISS system. 1. Sail track $20. good quality canvass sheet with rope sewn in one edge by any automotive upholsterer.$200. 3 POLES GUYS PEGS $50. Total cost $270. 5min set up. I've been using this set up for years, it won't blow down or shake loose on corrugations. Bill.

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Les Harris" <leslieharris@...> wrote:
>
> Nigel,
>
> This is the advantage of the sail track attachment. .
>
> Set-up goes something like this:
>
> * Tip awning and poles out of bag = 20 seconds.
> * Feed awning edge into sail track = 1 minute max.
> * Set out front pole, hammer in peg, fit guy rope = thirty seconds.
> * Ditto rear pole = thirty seconds.
> * Fit higher centre pole if it is raining = thirty seconds.
> * Set-up = 3 minutes.
>
> Any wind strong enough to rip the awning out of the sail track would blow
> the Syncro away as well. (The strength of the sail track is immense.) In
> my T2 days, I used the awning in remarkably high winds and all it did was
> flap a bit.
>
> Suction caps would have very concentrated loads versus the full-length load
> distribution of the sail track. The set-up time would be about the same but
> for lesser results.
>
> Set-up time would be faster with a Faimma type arrangement but only if it is
> already fixed securely to the vehicle, which has its own limitations when on
> bush tracks.
>
> Les
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of n h
> Sent: 09 December 2009 15:54
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Side Awning Info
>
>
>
> A fly sheet, two poles and guys, and a pair of the large suction caps
> designed to hold fishing rods on the roof creates a great shade/rain space
> alongside the van for little time, effort or cash - but struggles in high
> wind.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
26
Hi All,

Just on the topic of side awnings etc, has anyone tried / had a look at the fiamma room enclosures?? Too bulky to carry in a syncro? Ease of setup? etc.

Sam

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Bill" <marg_bill@...> wrote:
>
> Les. I agree with your KISS system. 1. Sail track $20. good quality canvass sheet with rope sewn in one edge by any automotive upholsterer.$200. 3 POLES GUYS PEGS $50. Total cost $270. 5min set up. I've been using this set up for years, it won't blow down or shake loose on corrugations. Bill.
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Les Harris" <leslieharris@> wrote:
> >
> > Nigel,
> >
> > This is the advantage of the sail track attachment. .
> >
> > Set-up goes something like this:
> >
> > * Tip awning and poles out of bag = 20 seconds.
> > * Feed awning edge into sail track = 1 minute max.
> > * Set out front pole, hammer in peg, fit guy rope = thirty seconds.
> > * Ditto rear pole = thirty seconds.
> > * Fit higher centre pole if it is raining = thirty seconds.
> > * Set-up = 3 minutes.
> >
> > Any wind strong enough to rip the awning out of the sail track would blow
> > the Syncro away as well. (The strength of the sail track is immense.) In
> > my T2 days, I used the awning in remarkably high winds and all it did was
> > flap a bit.
> >
> > Suction caps would have very concentrated loads versus the full-length load
> > distribution of the sail track. The set-up time would be about the same but
> > for lesser results.
> >
> > Set-up time would be faster with a Faimma type arrangement but only if it is
> > already fixed securely to the vehicle, which has its own limitations when on
> > bush tracks.
> >
> > Les
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of n h
> > Sent: 09 December 2009 15:54
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Side Awning Info
> >
> >
> >
> > A fly sheet, two poles and guys, and a pair of the large suction caps
> > designed to hold fishing rods on the roof creates a great shade/rain space
> > alongside the van for little time, effort or cash - but struggles in high
> > wind.
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> >
>
27
Don't know about those Fiamma ones (no doubt cleverly designed), but the people who owned ours before us had an annexe but sold it because it was too bulky and heavy to make it worthwhile, with storage space at a premium and all. There is also some fiddle in setting it up, of course. We wouldn't consider one for the same reasons, but do find the awning very useful even though it's just the simple type that slides into an aluminum track and sits in a roll on the front when not in use (not very classy to look at though, I know).

Francesca.

On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 9:59 AM, heysamuelarnold <me@samarnold.org> wrote:

Hi All,

Just on the topic of side awnings etc, has anyone tried / had a look at the fiamma room enclosures?? Too bulky to carry in a syncro? Ease of setup? etc.

Sam



--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Bill" <marg_bill@...> wrote:
>
> Les. I agree with your KISS system. 1. Sail track $20. good quality canvass sheet with rope sewn in one edge by any automotive upholsterer.$200. 3 POLES GUYS PEGS $50. Total cost $270. 5min set up. I've been using this set up for years, it won't blow down or shake loose on corrugations. Bill.
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Les Harris" <leslieharris@> wrote:
> >
> > Nigel,
> >
> > This is the advantage of the sail track attachment. .
> >
> > Set-up goes something like this:
> >
> > * Tip awning and poles out of bag = 20 seconds.
> > * Feed awning edge into sail track = 1 minute max.
> > * Set out front pole, hammer in peg, fit guy rope = thirty seconds.
> > * Ditto rear pole = thirty seconds.
> > * Fit higher centre pole if it is raining = thirty seconds.
> > * Set-up = 3 minutes.
> >
> > Any wind strong enough to rip the awning out of the sail track would blow
> > the Syncro away as well. (The strength of the sail track is immense.) In
> > my T2 days, I used the awning in remarkably high winds and all it did was
> > flap a bit.
> >
> > Suction caps would have very concentrated loads versus the full-length load
> > distribution of the sail track. The set-up time would be about the same but
> > for lesser results.
> >
> > Set-up time would be faster with a Faimma type arrangement but only if it is
> > already fixed securely to the vehicle, which has its own limitations when on
> > bush tracks.
> >
> > Les
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of n h
> > Sent: 09 December 2009 15:54
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Side Awning Info
> >
> >
> >
> > A fly sheet, two poles and guys, and a pair of the large suction caps
> > designed to hold fishing rods on the roof creates a great shade/rain space
> > alongside the van for little time, effort or cash - but struggles in high
> > wind.
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> >
>


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When I was looking for an awning in a bag awning I thought the simplest to put up was the Gunyah Awning.
Can't seem to find their web site so maybe they are out no longer. I see ARB and TJM seem to have similar ones. 

For a fancy one the new OZ Tent Foxwing looks interesting but of course expensive.  http://au.oztent.com/products/viewProduct.asp?productid=166

I went for the Aussie Traveller Outback bag job. It's quite a lot harder to put up but is quite good and well made. No where near as quick as as a Fiamma. But as somebody else said they can be damaged by trees which is what happened to mine at Batemans Bay. Got hooked on a branch and damaged it. Well the bag zip mainly. 


Bruce


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Bruce,
 
For me, this topic has been akin to going around and around in a revolving door. Will I, won't I have an awning ....
 
Hhmmmmmmmmmmmmmm   .... to do nothing is simple, quick, cheap, no extra load, no storage, snagging branches won't happen.

Shady trees are looking pretty damn good.
 
Ken 
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: royalb@aapt.net.au
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 09:55:50 +1000
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Side Awning Info

 
When I was looking for an awning in a bag awning I thought the simplest to put up was the Gunyah Awning.
Can't seem to find their web site so maybe they are out no longer. I see ARB and TJM seem to have similar ones. 

For a fancy one the new OZ Tent Foxwing looks interesting but of course expensive.  http://au.oztent. com/products/ viewProduct. asp?productid= 166

I went for the Aussie Traveller Outback bag job. It's quite a lot harder to put up but is quite good and well made. No where near as quick as as a Fiamma. But as somebody else said they can be damaged by trees which is what happened to mine at Batemans Bay. Got hooked on a branch and damaged it. Well the bag zip mainly. 


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I notice from perusing the Ray's outdoor catalogue they have what they call a "car awning" for $50. Looks like it might be ok for a quick cheap solution.

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On 11/12/2009, at 11:05 AM, Ken Garratt wrote:

 

Bruce,
 
For me, this topic has been akin to going around and around in a revolving door. Will I, won't I have an awning ....
 
Hhmmmmmmmmmmmmmm   .... to do nothing is simple, quick, cheap, no extra load, no storage, snagging branches won't happen.

Shady trees are looking pretty damn good.
 
Ken 

To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
From: royalb@aapt.net.au
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 09:55:50 +1000
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Re: Side Awning Info

 
When I was looking for an awning in a bag awning I thought the simplest to put up was the Gunyah Awning.
Can't seem to find their web site so maybe they are out no longer. I see ARB and TJM seem to have similar ones. 

For a fancy one the new OZ Tent Foxwing looks interesting but of course expensive.  http://au.oztent. com/products/ viewProduct. asp?productid= 166

I went for the Aussie Traveller Outback bag job. It's quite a lot harder to put up but is quite good and well made. No where near as quick as as a Fiamma. But as somebody else said they can be damaged by trees which is what happened to mine at Batemans Bay. Got hooked on a branch and damaged it. Well the bag zip mainly. 


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But Ken the birds will crap all over you and your nice Syncro whilst sitting under shady trees.
 
Plus you'll have so much extra room in your syncro you will need to clean. With a bulky awning - you wont be able to even see a fairly good patch of the floor to worry about cleaning.
 
Cheers,
 
Scott
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 11:05 AM
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Side Awning Info

 

Bruce,
 
For me, this topic has been akin to going around and around in a revolving door. Will I, won't I have an awning ....
 
Hhmmmmmmmmmmmmmm   .... to do nothing is simple, quick, cheap, no extra load, no storage, snagging branches won't happen.

Shady trees are looking pretty damn good.
 
Ken 

To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
From: royalb@aapt. net.au
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 09:55:50 +1000
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Re: Side Awning Info

 
When I was looking for an awning in a bag awning I thought the simplest to put up was the Gunyah Awning.
Can't seem to find their web site so maybe they are out no longer. I see ARB and TJM seem to have similar ones. 

For a fancy one the new OZ Tent Foxwing looks interesting but of course expensive.  http://au.oztent. com/products/ viewProduct. asp?productid= 166

I went for the Aussie Traveller Outback bag job. It's quite a lot harder to put up but is quite good and well made. No where near as quick as as a Fiamma. But as somebody else said they can be damaged by trees which is what happened to mine at Batemans Bay. Got hooked on a branch and damaged it. Well the bag zip mainly. 


Bruce




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Scott,
All part of the communing with nature thingy is bird crapping from on high. I draw the line though when the tree is THE communal bird roosting & crapping tree! ... haha
 
I rarely CLEAN the floor. I soon enough figured out how to avoid that daily task. I just use a pre-loved bed cover, fold it to the optimal shape, lay it neatly on the floor. Debris removal time, just pull the cover from the van, a few quick flicks (usually over sky blue syncros if I can find any nearby) and then refit it. Say 30 seconds, job done, Les you'd be proud of me! .. :-)
Ken
 
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: spbconsulting@bigpond.com
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:41:43 +1100
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Side Awning Info

 
But Ken the birds will crap all over you and your nice Syncro whilst sitting under shady trees.
 
Plus you'll have so much extra room in your syncro you will need to clean. With a bulky awning - you wont be able to even see a fairly good patch of the floor to worry about cleaning.
 
Cheers,
 
Scott
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 11:05 AM
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Re: Side Awning Info

 

Bruce,
 
For me, this topic has been akin to going around and around in a revolving door. Will I, won't I have an awning ....
 
Hhmmmmmmmmmmmmmm   .... to do nothing is simple, quick, cheap, no extra load, no storage, snagging branches won't happen.

Shady trees are looking pretty damn good.
 
Ken 

To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
From: royalb@aapt. net.au
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 09:55:50 +1000
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Re: Side Awning Info

 
When I was looking for an awning in a bag awning I thought the simplest to put up was the Gunyah Awning.
Can't seem to find their web site so maybe they are out no longer. I see ARB and TJM seem to have similar ones. 

For a fancy one the new OZ Tent Foxwing looks interesting but of course expensive.  http://au.oztent. com/products/ viewProduct. asp?productid= 166

I went for the Aussie Traveller Outback bag job. It's quite a lot harder to put up but is quite good and well made. No where near as quick as as a Fiamma. But as somebody else said they can be damaged by trees which is what happened to mine at Batemans Bay. Got hooked on a branch and damaged it. Well the bag zip mainly. 


Bruce





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Ken,
 
I have noticed that the Lorikeets even urinate on anything below them (being on the Central Coast we get lots of the buggers). Hence beware of the rain on a blue sky day whilst rooting under your tree!
 
I guess its kind of like being in a large pit toilet whilst sitting under a tree!
 
There is also the scenario that there aren't many trees out in the Australian outback - so what is your plan for that Ken? Maybe you could bring your own tree with you?
 
Cheers,
 
Scott
 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 3:24 PM
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Side Awning Info

 

Scott,
All part of the communing with nature thingy is bird crapping from on high. I draw the line though when the tree is THE communal bird roosting & crapping tree! ... haha
 
I rarely CLEAN the floor. I soon enough figured out how to avoid that daily task. I just use a pre-loved bed cover, fold it to the optimal shape, lay it neatly on the floor. Debris removal time, just pull the cover from the van, a few quick flicks (usually over sky blue syncros if I can find any nearby) and then refit it. Say 30 seconds, job done, Les you'd be proud of me! .. :-)
Ken
 

To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
From: spbconsulting@ bigpond.com
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:41:43 +1100
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Re: Side Awning Info

 
But Ken the birds will crap all over you and your nice Syncro whilst sitting under shady trees.
 
Plus you'll have so much extra room in your syncro you will need to clean. With a bulky awning - you wont be able to even see a fairly good patch of the floor to worry about cleaning.
 
Cheers,
 
Scott
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 11:05 AM
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Re: Side Awning Info

 

Bruce,
 
For me, this topic has been akin to going around and around in a revolving door. Will I, won't I have an awning ....
 
Hhmmmmmmmmmmmmmm   .... to do nothing is simple, quick, cheap, no extra load, no storage, snagging branches won't happen.

Shady trees are looking pretty damn good.
 
Ken 

To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
From: royalb@aapt. net.au
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 09:55:50 +1000
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Re: Side Awning Info

 
When I was looking for an awning in a bag awning I thought the simplest to put up was the Gunyah Awning.
Can't seem to find their web site so maybe they are out no longer. I see ARB and TJM seem to have similar ones. 

For a fancy one the new OZ Tent Foxwing looks interesting but of course expensive.  http://au.oztent. com/products/ viewProduct. asp?productid= 166

I went for the Aussie Traveller Outback bag job. It's quite a lot harder to put up but is quite good and well made. No where near as quick as as a Fiamma. But as somebody else said they can be damaged by trees which is what happened to mine at Batemans Bay. Got hooked on a branch and damaged it. Well the bag zip mainly. 


Bruce





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Scott,
mmmmm ..... I commune with lorikeets everyday .... like a scattergun aren't they, dodge this way, that way haha. But my syncro is uncrappable on the CC, never have these flying loos thought to enter my garage!
 
M8y .... too easy. No awning means rain, hail or shine there is NO decision to make ..... my van seat is comfy, has a nice outlook and everything at ones finger tips. Who needs a crapping tree!!
 
Ken
 
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: spbconsulting@bigpond.com
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:00:22 +1100
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Side Awning Info

 
Ken,
 
I have noticed that the Lorikeets even urinate on anything below them (being on the Central Coast we get lots of the buggers). Hence beware of the rain on a blue sky day whilst rooting under your tree!
 
I guess its kind of like being in a large pit toilet whilst sitting under a tree!
 
There is also the scenario that there aren't many trees out in the Australian outback - so what is your plan for that Ken? Maybe you could bring your own tree with you?
 
Cheers,
 
Scott
 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 3:24 PM
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Re: Side Awning Info

 

Scott,
All part of the communing with nature thingy is bird crapping from on high. I draw the line though when the tree is THE communal bird roosting & crapping tree! ... haha
 
I rarely CLEAN the floor. I soon enough figured out how to avoid that daily task. I just use a pre-loved bed cover, fold it to the optimal shape, lay it neatly on the floor. Debris removal time, just pull the cover from the van, a few quick flicks (usually over sky blue syncros if I can find any nearby) and then refit it. Say 30 seconds, job done, Les you'd be proud of me! .. :-)
Ken
 

To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
From: spbconsulting@ bigpond.com
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:41:43 +1100
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Re: Side Awning Info

 
But Ken the birds will crap all over you and your nice Syncro whilst sitting under shady trees.
 
Plus you'll have so much extra room in your syncro you will need to clean. With a bulky awning - you wont be able to even see a fairly good patch of the floor to worry about cleaning.
 
Cheers,
 
Scott
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 11:05 AM
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Re: Side Awning Info

 

Bruce,
 
For me, this topic has been akin to going around and around in a revolving door. Will I, won't I have an awning ....
 
Hhmmmmmmmmmmmmmm   .... to do nothing is simple, quick, cheap, no extra load, no storage, snagging branches won't happen.

Shady trees are looking pretty damn good.
 
Ken 

To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
From: royalb@aapt. net.au
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 09:55:50 +1000
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Re: Side Awning Info

 
When I was looking for an awning in a bag awning I thought the simplest to put up was the Gunyah Awning.
Can't seem to find their web site so maybe they are out no longer. I see ARB and TJM seem to have similar ones. 

For a fancy one the new OZ Tent Foxwing looks interesting but of course expensive.  http://au.oztent. com/products/ viewProduct. asp?productid= 166

I went for the Aussie Traveller Outback bag job. It's quite a lot harder to put up but is quite good and well made. No where near as quick as as a Fiamma. But as somebody else said they can be damaged by trees which is what happened to mine at Batemans Bay. Got hooked on a branch and damaged it. Well the bag zip mainly. 


Bruce






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Hi Murray

I will try and get a photo of the mounts for you.

What model Black Wolf do you use?

Regards
Mark.

On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Murray Lee <murray.lee@usyd.edu.au> wrote:

Yes, interesting Scott. The manufacturers Fiamma seem to suggest that having it fitted at highway speed is not a problem, but I would like to speak to someone with one who regularly does. They seem to be around the $500 mark and available from suppliers online, so if they were to slide into my rope guide this would be an easy and relative cheap option.

We already have a good quick to erect Black Wolf touring tent and my aim is to be able to set the tent entrance under the awning for a nice outside space for the family but also to enable a quick pack up and drive. Ahh the kit hey!

Cheers M


On 09/12/2009, at 12:15 PM, Mr Scott Pitcher wrote:


Murray,
I would anticipate that a bag awning style would flap around madly under highway speeds which would damage it? - But I could easily be wrong.
I would at least question that issue.
We have decided to get a JustKampers Awning tent from the Bus Stop as I have 3 females to deal with who like to spread themselves out. Only takes 2 pegs and a couple of clamps to set it up on the car. The trick is putting it up every time - takes me about an hour - well it did the first time.
Cheers,
Scott
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Side Awning Info


Hi Ken,

Yes, the fixing part is the thing that concerns me a little. I notice Faimma also make a 'bag' type which is easily removable and slips into and out of a rope track which can be secured with screws into the track. As I already have a rope track on this side this has some attraction but I wonder how this would fare when driving as apparently you can keep them fixed in the track while on the move.
Cheers M



On 09/12/2009, at 11:05 AM, Ken Garratt wrote:

Murray,
I'd suggest proceeding with caution. Essentially I had the idea the awning is great but the means of fastening it .... especially to withstand long term reliable trouble free fastening on our fibreglass poptops can be problematic. Worse for offroaders of course. Good luck.
Ken

To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: murray.lee@usyd.edu.au
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 10:38:32 +1100
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Side Awning Info

Hi Mark,

Thanks for this. I'm assuming your awning is the 2.5m version? Also, can you tell me how it is fixed to the van? I've just been speaking to the supplier and it seems leke there may be a range of options as to how to fix it.

Cheers Murray

On 08/12/2009, at 11:42 PM, Mark Kofahl wrote:

Murray


I have the Fiamma F45 - an excellent awning. No real disadvantages other than I broke the plastic lug once which required a $10 replacement.

Distributor in NSW is Camec at Ingleburn.

Regards
Mark.

On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Murray Lee <murray.lee@usyd.edu.au> wrote:

Hi All,


I’m considering buying a side roll out awning for the Trakka Syncro. Mark I know yours works quite well. Are there pros and cons with these? Have others had good or bad experiences with brands, distributors, or manufacturers of these? I’m after something that can be erected and rolled up very quickly for overnighters. I’m in Sydney so I’d be keen to know of local suppliers.


Cheers

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Here is another one for Ken from South Africa this time. Your closest store would be Dubbo wouldn't it Ken ?!?!?!?!?!

http://www.oppositelock.com.au/index.php?next_page=product/product_detail.php&product_id=8851&category_id=631


This one doesn't take up much room!!!!! 

See we need this type of thing because some have kids and we have Grand Kids. Inside is a little crowded. 

Bruce

37
Sacre Dieu! Il est ne simplicity pas!!!! Impossible!
 
Think 100 smackeroos, 4kg max and 60 seconds sole operator in the dark!!

Ken 
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: royalb@aapt.net.au
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 21:27:23 +1000
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Side Awning Info

 
Here is another one for Ken from South Africa this time. Your closest store would be Dubbo wouldn't it Ken ?!?!?!?!?!

http://www.opposite lock.com. au/index. php?next_ page=product/ product_detail. php&product_id=8851&category_id= 631


This one doesn't take up much room!!!!! 

See we need this type of thing because some have kids and we have Grand Kids. Inside is a little crowded. 

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You've snookered me there Ken.


On 11/12/2009, at 9:40 PM, Ken Garratt wrote:

 

Sacre Dieu! Il est ne simplicity pas!!!! Impossible!
 
Think 100 smackeroos, 4kg max and 60 seconds sole operator in the dark!!

Ken 

To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
From: royalb@aapt. net.au
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 21:27:23 +1000
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Side Awning Info

 
Here is another one for Ken from South Africa this time. Your closest store would be Dubbo wouldn't it Ken ?!?!?!?!?!

http://www.opposite lock.com. au/index. php?next_ page=product/ product_detail. php&product_id=8851&category_id= 631


This one doesn't take up much room!!!!! 

See we need this type of thing because some have kids and we have Grand Kids. Inside is a little crowded. 

Bruce



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Murray,

I have a ShadyBoy awning on my van, which I like quite well. Here's
their website:

http://www.shadyboy.com/the-awning/

Larry Hamm
'82 SyncroWesty, USA

Murray Lee wrote:
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> I’m considering buying a side roll out awning for the Trakka Syncro.
> Mark I know yours works quite well. Are there pros and cons with
> these? Have others had good or bad experiences with brands,
> distributors, or manufacturers of these? I’m after something that can
> be erected and rolled up very quickly for overnighters. I’m in Sydney
> so I’d be keen to know of local suppliers.
>
> Cheers
>
> Murray
>
>
>
>
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Larry and ALL,
 
I think perhaps posters are missing something here .... I'm happy to stand corrected if I'm wrong and open to workable suggestions.

Murray and I and others in Oz have Trakka type poptops. They are particularly low profile in design so they look quite neat on the van. This means there is very little space available to locate an awning, the space available for the awning brackets/fasteners is an angled profile less than 2 inches high i.e., the space between the metal gutter and the bottom of the poptop when closed and the material to fasten to is only fibreglass (the fixed base frame of the poptop).
 
See the attached pic, the limited space I refer to is that space you see where the aluminium awning rope strip is presently rivetted. When I bought this van, some of the pop rivets holding the strip were already pulling out, meaning even just a light slide-in awning plus road vibrations, wind, etc. over time causes the rivets to pull out. So this begs the question then .... how would a weightier modular/integrated awning fit in the limited available space and also be so firmly fixed in the 2'' high fibreglass fastening space so as to resist falling off over time with gravity forces, road vibration, offroading leverage etc or being dislodged by snagging branches in narrow bush tracks?
 
Perhaps the presence of the aluminium rope strip suggests previous owners have already been through this exercise and come to the conclusion it is all too hard .... a lightweight removable slide-in awning is all that's possible in this particular circumstance.
 
Thoughts anyone would be appreciated. TIA.
Cheers.
Ken
 
 
 
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> From: Patlar@hughes.net
> Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:17:56 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Side Awning Info
>
> Murray,
>
> I have a ShadyBoy awning on my van, which I like quite well. Here's
> their website:
>
> http://www.shadyboy.com/the-awning/
>
> Larry Hamm
> '82 SyncroWesty, USA
>
> Murray Lee wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I’m considering buying a side roll out awning for the Trakka Syncro.
> > Mark I know yours works quite well. Are there pros and cons with
> > these? Have others had good or bad experiences with brands,
> > distributors, or manufacturers of these? I’m after something that can
> > be erected and rolled up very quickly for overnighters. I’m in Sydney
> > so I’d be keen to know of local suppliers.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Murray
> >
> >
> >
> >
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