Wheel Alignment

1
This one is for the Vic. listers.

Does anyone no of a competent wheel aligner in Melboure area to align
our syncro?

Preferably someone who knows syncros and has done them before and
knows what they are doing.
I can take the specs to any shop and have it done but thought i would
check for an expert first.

Thanks in advance
Andy
Still stuck in Melbourne
2
Total Tyres, Marriot St , Oakleigh
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 8:29 PM
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Wheel Alignment

This one is for the Vic. listers.

Does anyone no of a competent wheel aligner in Melboure area to align
our syncro?

Preferably someone who knows syncros and has done them before and
knows what they are doing.
I can take the specs to any shop and have it done but thought i would
check for an expert first.

Thanks in advance
Andy
Still stuck in Melbourne
3
Hi Guys,
I`ve had my 91 Syncro for a month. The front tyres were massively worm (Toe in) on the original treads. I replaced all 4 tyres ( Toyo HO8) last week and the tyre dude said the drivers tyre was too far forward and it needed a wheel alignment. Looking at the front tyres this morning it appears I still have toe in and tyre wear inner front. It feels as if the front tyres cave in too much. I rang and booked to get the alignment rechecked tomorrow. Im confused with the different info out there on alignments with Syncros. Can anyone point me in the right direction.
Cheers David
4

David,

I will send the correct alignment specs to you direct.

Do NOT take any notice of any alignment place that tells you that the 2WD and 4WD alignment is the same.

You will have to print this out and take it with you.  I have yet to hear of any alignment place that has these figures.

They are taken from the VAG workshop manual, page 44.5

I can’t access it at the moment because the computer is compressing the drive that this file is on and I can’t interrupt it.

Les

 

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of David
Sent: 15 September 2011 12:16
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Wheel Alignment

 

 

Hi Guys,
I`ve had my 91 Syncro for a month. The front tyres were massively worm (Toe in) on the original treads. I replaced all 4 tyres ( Toyo HO8) last week and the tyre dude said the drivers tyre was too far forward and it needed a wheel alignment. Looking at the front tyres this morning it appears I still have toe in and tyre wear inner front. It feels as if the front tyres cave in too much. I rang and booked to get the alignment rechecked tomorrow. Im confused with the different info out there on alignments with Syncros. Can anyone point me in the right direction.
Cheers David

5

OK, found it without interrupting the compression process.

 

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Les Harris
Sent: 15 September 2011 12:36
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Wheel Alignment

 

 

David,

I will send the correct alignment specs to you direct.

Do NOT take any notice of any alignment place that tells you that the 2WD and 4WD alignment is the same.

You will have to print this out and take it with you.  I have yet to hear of any alignment place that has these figures.

They are taken from the VAG workshop manual, page 44.5

I can’t access it at the moment because the computer is compressing the drive that this file is on and I can’t interrupt it.

Les

 

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of David
Sent: 15 September 2011 12:16
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Wheel Alignment

 

 

Hi Guys,
I`ve had my 91 Syncro for a month. The front tyres were massively worm (Toe in) on the original treads. I replaced all 4 tyres ( Toyo HO8) last week and the tyre dude said the drivers tyre was too far forward and it needed a wheel alignment. Looking at the front tyres this morning it appears I still have toe in and tyre wear inner front. It feels as if the front tyres cave in too much. I rang and booked to get the alignment rechecked tomorrow. Im confused with the different info out there on alignments with Syncros. Can anyone point me in the right direction.
Cheers David

6
Hi Les,
Having trouble opening attachments. ? due to my Mac? Can you send it to my email adrress please
Cheers David

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Les Harris" <leslieharris@...> wrote:
>
> OK, found it without interrupting the compression process.
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Les Harris
> Sent: 15 September 2011 12:36
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Wheel Alignment
>
>
>
>
>
> David,
>
> I will send the correct alignment specs to you direct.
>
> Do NOT take any notice of any alignment place that tells you that the 2WD
> and 4WD alignment is the same.
>
> You will have to print this out and take it with you. I have yet to hear of
> any alignment place that has these figures.
>
> They are taken from the VAG workshop manual, page 44.5
>
> I can't access it at the moment because the computer is compressing the
> drive that this file is on and I can't interrupt it.
>
> Les
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David
> Sent: 15 September 2011 12:16
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Wheel Alignment
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Guys,
> I`ve had my 91 Syncro for a month. The front tyres were massively worm (Toe
> in) on the original treads. I replaced all 4 tyres ( Toyo HO8) last week and
> the tyre dude said the drivers tyre was too far forward and it needed a
> wheel alignment. Looking at the front tyres this morning it appears I still
> have toe in and tyre wear inner front. It feels as if the front tyres cave
> in too much. I rang and booked to get the alignment rechecked tomorrow. Im
> confused with the different info out there on alignments with Syncros. Can
> anyone point me in the right direction.
> Cheers David
>
7

On page 43a, there is an illustration showing how to measure the ride height.  It is a better idea to measure both sides.

The reason for this is that coil springs settle over many years and will often show differences side to side.   Bear in mind that this also applies to the rear coil springs but that’s a complication that I won’t go into at the moment.   It is vital that you get the front alignment correct ASAP.

 

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Les Harris
Sent: 15 September 2011 12:55
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Cc: 'David'
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Wheel Alignment

 

 

OK, found it without interrupting the compression process.

 

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Les Harris
Sent: 15 September 2011 12:36
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Wheel Alignment

 

 

David,

I will send the correct alignment specs to you direct.

Do NOT take any notice of any alignment place that tells you that the 2WD and 4WD alignment is the same.

You will have to print this out and take it with you.  I have yet to hear of any alignment place that has these figures.

They are taken from the VAG workshop manual, page 44.5

I can’t access it at the moment because the computer is compressing the drive that this file is on and I can’t interrupt it.

Les

 

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of David
Sent: 15 September 2011 12:16
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Wheel Alignment

 

 

Hi Guys,
I`ve had my 91 Syncro for a month. The front tyres were massively worm (Toe in) on the original treads. I replaced all 4 tyres ( Toyo HO8) last week and the tyre dude said the drivers tyre was too far forward and it needed a wheel alignment. Looking at the front tyres this morning it appears I still have toe in and tyre wear inner front. It feels as if the front tyres cave in too much. I rang and booked to get the alignment rechecked tomorrow. Im confused with the different info out there on alignments with Syncros. Can anyone point me in the right direction.
Cheers David

8

It is a Word 2003 document.   If you can’t open it, I can probably find and send the original scans but they might take a bit of time to locate

 

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of David
Sent: 15 September 2011 13:04
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Wheel Alignment

 

 

Hi Les,
Having trouble opening attachments. ? due to my Mac? Can you send it to my email adrress please
Cheers David

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Les Harris" <leslieharris@...> wrote:

>
> OK, found it without interrupting the compression process.
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Les Harris
> Sent: 15 September 2011 12:36
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Wheel Alignment
>
>
>
>
>
> David,
>
> I will send the correct alignment specs to you direct.
>
> Do NOT take any notice of any alignment place that tells you that the 2WD
> and 4WD alignment is the same.
>
> You will have to print this out and take it with you. I have yet to hear
of
> any alignment place that has these figures.
>
> They are taken from the VAG workshop manual, page 44.5
>
> I can't access it at the moment because the computer is compressing the
> drive that this file is on and I can't interrupt it.
>
> Les
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of David
> Sent: 15 September 2011 12:16
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Wheel Alignment
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Guys,
> I`ve had my 91 Syncro for a month. The front tyres were massively worm
(Toe
> in) on the original treads. I replaced all 4 tyres ( Toyo HO8) last week
and
> the tyre dude said the drivers tyre was too far forward and it needed a
> wheel alignment. Looking at the front tyres this morning it appears I
still
> have toe in and tyre wear inner front. It feels as if the front tyres cave
> in too much. I rang and booked to get the alignment rechecked tomorrow. Im
> confused with the different info out there on alignments with Syncros. Can
> anyone point me in the right direction.
> Cheers David
>

9
Hi Les,

I just found the wheel alignment info 44a & 45 under Files. Is this the info that I need?

Cheers David

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Les Harris" <leslieharris@...> wrote:
>
> It is a Word 2003 document. If you can't open it, I can probably find and
> send the original scans but they might take a bit of time to locate
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David
> Sent: 15 September 2011 13:04
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Wheel Alignment
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Les,
> Having trouble opening attachments. ? due to my Mac? Can you send it to my
> email adrress please
> Cheers David
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com> , "Les Harris"
> <leslieharris@> wrote:
> >
> > OK, found it without interrupting the compression process.
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com>
> > [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Les Harris
> > Sent: 15 September 2011 12:36
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Wheel Alignment
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > David,
> >
> > I will send the correct alignment specs to you direct.
> >
> > Do NOT take any notice of any alignment place that tells you that the 2WD
> > and 4WD alignment is the same.
> >
> > You will have to print this out and take it with you. I have yet to hear
> of
> > any alignment place that has these figures.
> >
> > They are taken from the VAG workshop manual, page 44.5
> >
> > I can't access it at the moment because the computer is compressing the
> > drive that this file is on and I can't interrupt it.
> >
> > Les
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com>
> > [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of David
> > Sent: 15 September 2011 12:16
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Wheel Alignment
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Guys,
> > I`ve had my 91 Syncro for a month. The front tyres were massively worm
> (Toe
> > in) on the original treads. I replaced all 4 tyres ( Toyo HO8) last week
> and
> > the tyre dude said the drivers tyre was too far forward and it needed a
> > wheel alignment. Looking at the front tyres this morning it appears I
> still
> > have toe in and tyre wear inner front. It feels as if the front tyres cave
> > in too much. I rang and booked to get the alignment rechecked tomorrow. Im
> > confused with the different info out there on alignments with Syncros. Can
> > anyone point me in the right direction.
> > Cheers David
> >
>
10
Try this.

Les, you've got to stop sending word docs!



> David <davidleibmann@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
> Hi Les,
> Having trouble opening attachments. ? due to my Mac? Can you send it to
> my email adrress please
> Cheers David
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Les Harris"
> <leslieharris@...> wrote:
> >
> > OK, found it without interrupting the compression process.
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Les Harris
> > Sent: 15 September 2011 12:36
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Wheel Alignment
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > David,
> >
> > I will send the correct alignment specs to you direct.
> >
> > Do NOT take any notice of any alignment place that tells you that the
> 2WD
> > and 4WD alignment is the same.
> >
> > You will have to print this out and take it with you. I have yet to
> hear of
> > any alignment place that has these figures.
> >
> > They are taken from the VAG workshop manual, page 44.5
> >
> > I can't access it at the moment because the computer is compressing
> the
> > drive that this file is on and I can't interrupt it.
> >
> > Les
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David
> > Sent: 15 September 2011 12:16
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Wheel Alignment
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Guys,
> > I`ve had my 91 Syncro for a month. The front tyres were massively worm
> (Toe
> > in) on the original treads. I replaced all 4 tyres ( Toyo HO8) last
> week and
> > the tyre dude said the drivers tyre was too far forward and it needed
> a
> > wheel alignment. Looking at the front tyres this morning it appears I
> still
> > have toe in and tyre wear inner front. It feels as if the front tyres
> cave
> > in too much. I rang and booked to get the alignment rechecked
> tomorrow. Im
> > confused with the different info out there on alignments with Syncros.
> Can
> > anyone point me in the right direction.
> > Cheers David
> >
11

Phill,

I stand reprimanded!

Many thanks.

Les

 

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of plander@optusnet.com.au
Sent: 15 September 2011 13:29
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Wheel Alignment

 

 

Try this.

Les, you've got to stop sending word docs!

> David <davidleibmann@yahoo.com.au>
wrote:
>
> Hi Les,
> Having trouble opening attachments. ? due to my Mac? Can you send it to
> my email adrress please
> Cheers David

12
If anyone can interpret that toe graph ..
let me know.
 
and ..if anyone who has a flat level surface to part their Syncro on,
and wants to check and adjust the front toe, check and adjust front camber ,
and check front castor using quite adequate 'shad tree mechanic' methods..
in inches btw, not degrees ...
let me know, and I'll tell you how.
 You can at least check your front alignment to find out if it's in the ballpark..
and with patience and persistence, even get your front alignment where it belongs.
 
personally, I think letting any tyre store near my van or sycnro is a very risky thing to do.
 
Scott
turbovans.com .com
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Les Harris
Cc: 'David'
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 7:55 PM
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Wheel Alignment

 

OK, found it without interrupting the compression process.

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Les Harris
Sent: 15 September 2011 12:36
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Wheel Alignment

 

David,

I will send the correct alignment specs to you direct.

Do NOT take any notice of any alignment place that tells you that the 2WD and 4WD alignment is the same.

You will have to print this out and take it with you.  I have yet to hear of any alignment place that has these figures.

They are taken from the VAG workshop manual, page 44.5

I can’t access it at the moment because the computer is compressing the drive that this file is on and I can’t interrupt it.

Les

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of David
Sent: 15 September 2011 12:16
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Wheel Alignment

 

Hi Guys,
I`ve had my 91 Syncro for a month. The front tyres were massively worm (Toe in) on the original treads. I replaced all 4 tyres ( Toyo HO8) last week and the tyre dude said the drivers tyre was too far forward and it needed a wheel alignment. Looking at the front tyres this morning it appears I still have toe in and tyre wear inner front. It feels as if the front tyres cave in too much. I rang and booked to get the alignment rechecked tomorrow. Im confused with the different info out there on alignments with Syncros. Can anyone point me in the right direction.
Cheers David

13
David, when a tyre leans in at the top it is negative camber. While a number of issues can cause this, the first thing I would check is your upper arm bushes. The easy way to do this is to squat down facing the wheel (side of car), place both hands on top of the tyre and pull and then push repeatedly. If you feel a noticable clonk or you have heard a lot of creaking in your front suspension you need new bushes. Spending money on aligning a worn suspension system is wasting money. How many kms on your bus? How long are your keeping it? Greg E
)
From: David <davidleibmann@yahoo.com.au>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 15 September 2011 12:15 PM
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Wheel Alignment

 
Hi Guys,
I`ve had my 91 Syncro for a month. The front tyres were massively worm (Toe in) on the original treads. I replaced all 4 tyres ( Toyo HO8) last week and the tyre dude said the drivers tyre was too far forward and it needed a wheel alignment. Looking at the front tyres this morning it appears I still have toe in and tyre wear inner front. It feels as if the front tyres cave in too much. I rang and booked to get the alignment rechecked tomorrow. Im confused with the different info out there on alignments with Syncros. Can anyone point me in the right direction.
Cheers David



14
Second that motion Scott. Nothing a piece of twine can't fix ha. Greg E

From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <ScottDaniel@turbovans.com>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Cc: 'David' <davidleibmann@yahoo.com.au>
Sent: Thursday, 15 September 2011 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Wheel Alignment

 
If anyone can interpret that toe graph ..
let me know.
 
and ..if anyone who has a flat level surface to part their Syncro on,
and wants to check and adjust the front toe, check and adjust front camber ,
and check front castor using quite adequate 'shad tree mechanic' methods..
in inches btw, not degrees ...
let me know, and I'll tell you how.
 You can at least check your front alignment to find out if it's in the ballpark..
and with patience and persistence, even get your front alignment where it belongs.
 
personally, I think letting any tyre store near my van or sycnro is a very risky thing to do.
 
Scott
turbovans.com .com
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Les Harris
Cc: 'David'
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 7:55 PM
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Wheel Alignment

 
OK, found it without interrupting the compression process.
From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Les Harris
Sent: 15 September 2011 12:36
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Wheel Alignment
 
David,
I will send the correct alignment specs to you direct.
Do NOT take any notice of any alignment place that tells you that the 2WD and 4WD alignment is the same.
You will have to print this out and take it with you.  I have yet to hear of any alignment place that has these figures.
They are taken from the VAG workshop manual, page 44.5
I can’t access it at the moment because the computer is compressing the drive that this file is on and I can’t interrupt it.
Les
From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of David
Sent: 15 September 2011 12:16
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Wheel Alignment
 
Hi Guys,
I`ve had my 91 Syncro for a month. The front tyres were massively worm (Toe in) on the original treads. I replaced all 4 tyres ( Toyo HO8) last week and the tyre dude said the drivers tyre was too far forward and it needed a wheel alignment. Looking at the front tyres this morning it appears I still have toe in and tyre wear inner front. It feels as if the front tyres cave in too much. I rang and booked to get the alignment rechecked tomorrow. Im confused with the different info out there on alignments with Syncros. Can anyone point me in the right direction.
Cheers David


15
Hi Greg,

The bushes appear to be OK. No play or noises there. The van has travelled 197000 km and we hope to have it for a long life. Renewing the suspension is on my list. Its used as a family camper so I think replacing the shocks with Sachs should suffice. OME and others will be too firm. Can you recommend any other shock that will give a comfortable ride?

Thanks David

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, greg esposito <gregespo73@...> wrote:
>
> David, when a tyre leans in at the top it is negative camber. While a number of issues can cause this, the first thing I would check is your upper arm bushes. The easy way to do this is to squat down facing the wheel (side of car), place both hands on top of the tyre and pull and then push repeatedly. If you feel a noticable clonk or you have heard a lot of creaking in your front suspension you need new bushes. Spending money on aligning a worn suspension system is wasting money. How many kms on your bus? How long are your keeping it? Greg E
>
> )
>
> From: David <davidleibmann@...>
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, 15 September 2011 12:15 PM
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Wheel Alignment
>
>
> Â
>
> Hi Guys,
> I`ve had my 91 Syncro for a month. The front tyres were massively worm (Toe in) on the original treads. I replaced all 4 tyres ( Toyo HO8) last week and the tyre dude said the drivers tyre was too far forward and it needed a wheel alignment. Looking at the front tyres this morning it appears I still have toe in and tyre wear inner front. It feels as if the front tyres cave in too much. I rang and booked to get the alignment rechecked tomorrow. Im confused with the different info out there on alignments with Syncros. Can anyone point me in the right direction.
> Cheers David
>
16
What makes you think OME will be firm? If you want to keep it simple (no mods) and get a good shock in my books thats the OME. While shock absorbers play a part, firm is more about springs. Greg E

From: David <davidleibmann@yahoo.com.au>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 15 September 2011 2:41 PM
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Wheel Alignment

 
Hi Greg,

The bushes appear to be OK. No play or noises there. The van has travelled 197000 km and we hope to have it for a long life. Renewing the suspension is on my list. Its used as a family camper so I think replacing the shocks with Sachs should suffice. OME and others will be too firm. Can you recommend any other shock that will give a comfortable ride?

Thanks David

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, greg esposito <gregespo73@...> wrote:
>
> David, when a tyre leans in at the top it is negative camber. While a number of issues can cause this, the first thing I would check is your upper arm bushes. The easy way to do this is to squat down facing the wheel (side of car), place both hands on top of the tyre and pull and then push repeatedly. If you feel a noticable clonk or you have heard a lot of creaking in your front suspension you need new bushes. Spending money on aligning a worn suspension system is wasting money. How many kms on your bus? How long are your keeping it? Greg E
>
> )
>
> From: David <davidleibmann@...>
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, 15 September 2011 12:15 PM
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Wheel Alignment
>
>
>  
>
> Hi Guys,
> I`ve had my 91 Syncro for a month. The front tyres were massively worm (Toe in) on the original treads. I replaced all 4 tyres ( Toyo HO8) last week and the tyre dude said the drivers tyre was too far forward and it needed a wheel alignment. Looking at the front tyres this morning it appears I still have toe in and tyre wear inner front. It feels as if the front tyres cave in too much. I rang and booked to get the alignment rechecked tomorrow. Im confused with the different info out there on alignments with Syncros. Can anyone point me in the right direction.
> Cheers David
>



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Hi Greg,

Check out the GoWesty website and they sell OME shocks for Syncros in the States and they describe them as a firm ride. There Aussie made so that is a big plus. Im just chekin out the options.

Cheers David

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, greg esposito <gregespo73@...> wrote:
>
> What makes you think OME will be firm? If you want to keep it simple (no mods) and get a good shock in my books thats the OME. While shock absorbers play a part, firm is more about springs. Greg E
>
>
> From: David <davidleibmann@...>
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, 15 September 2011 2:41 PM
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Wheel Alignment
>
>
> Â
>
> Hi Greg,
>
> The bushes appear to be OK. No play or noises there. The van has travelled 197000 km and we hope to have it for a long life. Renewing the suspension is on my list. Its used as a family camper so I think replacing the shocks with Sachs should suffice. OME and others will be too firm. Can you recommend any other shock that will give a comfortable ride?
>
> Thanks David
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, greg esposito <gregespo73@> wrote:
> >
> > David, when a tyre leans in at the top it is negative camber. While a number of issues can cause this, the first thing I would check is your upper arm bushes. The easy way to do this is to squat down facing the wheel (side of car), place both hands on top of the tyre and pull and then push repeatedly. If you feel a noticable clonk or you have heard a lot of creaking in your front suspension you need new bushes. Spending money on aligning a worn suspension system is wasting money. How many kms on your bus? How long are your keeping it? Greg E
> >
> > )
> >
> > From: David <davidleibmann@>
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Thursday, 15 September 2011 12:15 PM
> > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Wheel Alignment
> >
> >
> > ÂÂ
> >
> > Hi Guys,
> > I`ve had my 91 Syncro for a month. The front tyres were massively worm (Toe in) on the original treads. I replaced all 4 tyres ( Toyo HO8) last week and the tyre dude said the drivers tyre was too far forward and it needed a wheel alignment. Looking at the front tyres this morning it appears I still have toe in and tyre wear inner front. It feels as if the front tyres cave in too much. I rang and booked to get the alignment rechecked tomorrow. Im confused with the different info out there on alignments with Syncros. Can anyone point me in the right direction.
> > Cheers David
> >
>
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David Go Westy and generally the American market will describe them as firm because VW America opted for a "soft" shock from new in all vanagons. This is done to almost all cars marketed in the US. When compared to the set we got in Oz they are very similar in ride but you gain compression damping in the front and travel in the rear as well as a better over all shock. I think they are the value for money choice but maybe some other members have options for you. Greg E

From: David <davidleibmann@yahoo.com.au>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 15 September 2011 2:57 PM
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Wheel Alignment

 

Hi Greg,

Check out the GoWesty website and they sell OME shocks for Syncros in the States and they describe them as a firm ride. There Aussie made so that is a big plus. Im just chekin out the options.

Cheers David

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, greg esposito <gregespo73@...> wrote:
>
> What makes you think OME will be firm? If you want to keep it simple (no mods) and get a good shock in my books thats the OME. While shock absorbers play a part, firm is more about springs. Greg E
>
>
> From: David <davidleibmann@...>
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, 15 September 2011 2:41 PM
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Wheel Alignment
>
>
>  
>
> Hi Greg,
>
> The bushes appear to be OK. No play or noises there. The van has travelled 197000 km and we hope to have it for a long life. Renewing the suspension is on my list. Its used as a family camper so I think replacing the shocks with Sachs should suffice. OME and others will be too firm. Can you recommend any other shock that will give a comfortable ride?
>
> Thanks David
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, greg esposito <gregespo73@> wrote:
> >
> > David, when a tyre leans in at the top it is negative camber. While a number of issues can cause this, the first thing I would check is your upper arm bushes. The easy way to do this is to squat down facing the wheel (side of car), place both hands on top of the tyre and pull and then push repeatedly. If you feel a noticable clonk or you have heard a lot of creaking in your front suspension you need new bushes. Spending money on aligning a worn suspension system is wasting money. How many kms on your bus? How long are your keeping it? Greg E
> >
> > )
> >
> > From: David <davidleibmann@>
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Thursday, 15 September 2011 12:15 PM
> > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Wheel Alignment
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> > Hi Guys,
> > I`ve had my 91 Syncro for a month. The front tyres were massively worm (Toe in) on the original treads. I replaced all 4 tyres ( Toyo HO8) last week and the tyre dude said the drivers tyre was too far forward and it needed a wheel alignment. Looking at the front tyres this morning it appears I still have toe in and tyre wear inner front. It feels as if the front tyres cave in too much. I rang and booked to get the alignment rechecked tomorrow. Im confused with the different info out there on alignments with Syncros. Can anyone point me in the right direction.
> > Cheers David
> >
>



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> personally, I think letting any tyre store near my van or sycnro is a
> very risky thing to do.
>

I wouldn't let a tyre store near mine either!
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They didn't have special shocks for the USA.



> greg esposito <gregespo73@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> David Go Westy and generally the American market will describe them as
> firm because VW America opted for a "soft" shock from new in all
> vanagons. This is done to almost all cars marketed in the US. When
> compared to the set we got in Oz they are very similar in ride but you
> gain compression damping in the front and travel in the rear as well as
> a better over all shock. I think they are the value for money choice but
> maybe some other members have options for you. Greg E
>
>
> From: David <davidleibmann@yahoo.com.au>
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, 15 September 2011 2:57 PM
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Wheel Alignment
>
>
> ����
>
>
> Hi Greg,
>
> Check out the GoWesty website and they sell OME shocks for Syncros in
> the States and they describe them as a firm ride. There Aussie made so
> that is a big plus. Im just chekin out the options.
>
> Cheers David
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, greg esposito
> <gregespo73@...> wrote:
> >
> > What makes you think OME will be firm? If you want to keep it simple
> (no mods) and get a good shock in my books thats the OME. While shock
> absorbers play a���������part,���������firm is more about springs. Greg E
> >
> >
> > From: David <davidleibmann@...>
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Thursday, 15 September 2011 2:41 PM
> > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Wheel Alignment
> >
> >
> > ���������
> >
> > Hi Greg,
> >
> > The bushes appear to be OK. No play or noises there. The van has
> travelled 197000 km and we hope to have it for a long life. Renewing the
> suspension is on my list. Its used as a family camper so I think
> replacing the shocks with Sachs should suffice. OME and others will be
> too firm. Can you recommend any other shock that will give a comfortable
> ride?
> >
> > Thanks David
> >
> > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, greg esposito
> <gregespo73@> wrote:
> > >
> > > David, when a tyre leans in at the top it is negative camber. While
> a number of issues can cause this, the first thing I would check is your
> upper arm bushes. The easy way to do this is to squat down facing the
> wheel (side of car), place both hands on top of the tyre and pull and
> then push repeatedly. If you feel a noticable clonk or you have heard a
> lot of creaking in your front suspension you need new bushes. Spending
> money on aligning a worn suspension system is wasting money. How many
> kms on your bus? How long are your keeping it? Greg E
> > >
> > > )
> > >
> > > From: David <davidleibmann@>
> > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Thursday, 15 September 2011 12:15 PM
> > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Wheel Alignment
> > >
> > >
> > > ��������������������
> > >
> > > Hi Guys,
> > > I`ve had my 91 Syncro for a month. The front tyres were massively
> worm (Toe in) on the original treads. I replaced all 4 tyres ( Toyo HO8)
> last week and the tyre dude said the drivers tyre was too far forward
> and it needed a wheel alignment. Looking at the front tyres this morning
> it appears I still have toe in and tyre wear inner front. It feels as if
> the front tyres cave in too much. I rang and booked to get the alignment
> rechecked tomorrow. Im confused with the different info out there on
> alignments with Syncros. Can anyone point me in the right direction.
> > > Cheers David
> > >
> >
>
>
>