Whine in fourth gear

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Hi All,

So I have only had my decoupler for a month or two now, new front locking diff and haven't driven that many kms. Probably not related? I have noticed a whine when doing 70+ km/h, slight in third, noticeable in fourth, only under load. Any suggestions on what this might be - is the gearbox going to need reconditioning or? A specific bearing or could be anything in there? Yet again I have also noticed one of the CVs with a slight click.

Thanks, Sam
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So I've had an independent ear confirm a noisy gearbox. Anyone know of a gearbox or crown wheel and pinion around at a good price? Hopefully though it's just the bearings. Don't know what to tell the minister of finance having recently spent quite a few dollars on the syncro.

Cheers, Sam

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "heysamuelarnold" <me@...> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> So I have only had my decoupler for a month or two now, new front locking diff and haven't driven that many kms. Probably not related? I have noticed a whine when doing 70+ km/h, slight in third, noticeable in fourth, only under load. Any suggestions on what this might be - is the gearbox going to need reconditioning or? A specific bearing or could be anything in there? Yet again I have also noticed one of the CVs with a slight click.
>
> Thanks, Sam
>
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Sam,

I think Albins Gears (Australia) still make the crown wheel & pinion and the bearings are still available from various sources.

Gears are also available from various sources.

Helps to go to a repairer who knows where to source parts.

Cheers,

Skot

On 27/08/2013 11:12 AM, heysamuelarnold wrote:
 

So I've had an independent ear confirm a noisy gearbox. Anyone know of a gearbox or crown wheel and pinion around at a good price? Hopefully though it's just the bearings. Don't know what to tell the minister of finance having recently spent quite a few dollars on the syncro.

Cheers, Sam

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "heysamuelarnold" <me@...> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> So I have only had my decoupler for a month or two now, new front locking diff and haven't driven that many kms. Probably not related? I have noticed a whine when doing 70+ km/h, slight in third, noticeable in fourth, only under load. Any suggestions on what this might be - is the gearbox going to need reconditioning or? A specific bearing or could be anything in there? Yet again I have also noticed one of the CVs with a slight click.
>
> Thanks, Sam
>


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Call rudi
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On 27/08/2013, at 11:23 AM, spbconsulting@bigpond.com wrote:

Sam,

I think Albins Gears (Australia) still make the crown wheel & pinion and the bearings are still available from various sources.

Gears are also available from various sources.

Helps to go to a repairer who knows where to source parts.

Cheers,

Skot

On 27/08/2013 11:12 AM, heysamuelarnold wrote:
 

So I've had an independent ear confirm a noisy gearbox. Anyone know of a gearbox or crown wheel and pinion around at a good price? Hopefully though it's just the bearings. Don't know what to tell the minister of finance having recently spent quite a few dollars on the syncro.

Cheers, Sam

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "heysamuelarnold" <me@...> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> So I have only had my decoupler for a month or two now, new front locking diff and haven't driven that many kms. Probably not related? I have noticed a whine when doing 70+ km/h, slight in third, noticeable in fourth, only under load. Any suggestions on what this might be - is the gearbox going to need reconditioning or? A specific bearing or could be anything in there? Yet again I have also noticed one of the CVs with a slight click.
>
> Thanks, Sam
>


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hi there,
some questions about tyres - can anyone help?
the sizes we can fit on our van are:
185 R14
205 R14
205/70 R14

ideally we would like all terrain tyres but the best quote we got was 235 $ per tyre - we are not rich enough for this so might go with 95$ per tyre for normal ones (Nixxon 205/70 R14). Are these normal prices? Anyone got any better ideas? we need new tyres to pass our rego....
Thanks Christina

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Sam, this guy approached me in the street a couple of weeks ago. Said he had Albins C& P sets along with other bits& pieces for sale. Phone Andrew 0413784384

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "heysamuelarnold" <me@...> wrote:
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> So I've had an independent ear confirm a noisy gearbox. Anyone know of a gearbox or crown wheel and pinion around at a good price? Hopefully though it's just the bearings. Don't know. 0413what to tell the minister of finance having recently spent quite a few dollars on the syncro.
>
> Cheers, Sam
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "heysamuelarnold" <me@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > So I have only had my decoupler for a month or two now, new front locking diff and haven't driven that many kms. Probably not related? I have noticed a whine when doing 70+ km/h, slight in third, noticeable in fourth, only under load. Any suggestions on what this might be - is the gearbox going to need reconditioning or? A specific bearing or could be anything in there? Yet again I have also noticed one of the CVs with a slight click.
> >
> > Thanks, Sam
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Check these out!
 
 
 
Neil.
From: christina thwaites <christinathwaites@yahoo.co.uk>
To: "Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com" <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, 27 August 2013 1:16 PM
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] question about where to buy tyres for the van
 

hi there,
some questions about tyres - can anyone help?
the sizes we can fit on our van are:
185 R14
205 R14
205/70 R14

ideally we would like all terrain tyres but the best quote we got was 235 $ per tyre - we are not rich enough for this so might go with 95$ per tyre for normal ones (Nixxon 205/70 R14). Are these normal prices? Anyone got any better ideas? we need new tyres to pass our rego....
Thanks Christina

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Neil,

Crikey!!  They look quite fearsome!  However, they are the same size as the BFG All terrain that was widely used on the Syncro – until BFG stopped making them in that size!  (The size range now starts at 15”.)

Les

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of neil smith
Sent: 27 August 2013 14:39
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] question about where to buy tyres for the van 

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Christina,

I have no knowledge of how good or otherwise they are but this size fits the Syncro without hitting anything.  The price is certainly remarkable and the tread looks like it out-climb a goanna up a gum tree!

Les

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Les Harris
Sent: 27 August 2013 14:46
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] question about where to buy tyres for the van

 Neil,

Crikey!!  

They look quite fearsome!  However, they are the same size as the BFG All Terrain that was widely used on the Syncro – until BFG stopped making them in that size!  (The size range now starts at 15”.)

Les

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That tyre seems unlikely to have the correct load rating. Could be OK but might not pass RWC inspection. Eddie
--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Les Harris" <leslieharris@...> wrote:
>

> Christina,
>
> I have no knowledge of how good or otherwise they are but this size fits the
> Syncro without hitting anything. The price is certainly remarkable and the
> tread looks like it out-climb a goanna up a gum tree!
>
> Les
>
> _____
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> From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Les Harris
> Sent: 27 August 2013 14:46
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] question about where to buy tyres for the
> van
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> Neil,
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> Crikey!!
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> They look quite fearsome! However, they are the same size as the BFG All
> Terrain that was widely used on the Syncro - until BFG stopped making them
> in that size! (The size range now starts at 15".)
>
> Les
>
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Hi All,
27x8.50R14 (685.8) (215 section width) has roughly the same OD as 215/65R16 (685.9) and 205R14 (683). No probs with rubbing. The tread looks aggressive though. They would be noisy on the bitumen. On 14's I would go for the 205R14 if you can get them. There is much wider choice of rubber in 15's & 16's. Try Tyrepower. They can source most brands & sizes.

In Noosa now. Handing over my Trakka Syncro tomorrow to AM Auto here to fit an EJ25 & GB & diff rebuild by Ron Schmidt at Kempsey. Highly recommend Ron for GB work. Thanks for the tip Hart!

Cheers,
Bruce.

From: Les Harris <leslieharris@optusnet.com.au>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, 27 August 2013 2:32 PM
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] question about where to buy tyres for the van

 
Christina,
I have no knowledge of how good or otherwise they are but this size fits the Syncro without hitting anything.  The price is certainly remarkable and the tread looks like it out-climb a goanna up a gum tree!
Les
From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Les Harris
Sent: 27 August 2013 14:46
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] question about where to buy tyres for the van
 Neil,
Crikey!!  
They look quite fearsome!  However, they are the same size as the BFG All Terrain that was widely used on the Syncro – until BFG stopped making them in that size!  (The size range now starts at 15”.)
Les


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Bruce,

I will second that regarding Ronnie Schmidt's talents - plus his hospitality - brilliant!

Keep us posted on the EJ25 install - very interested to see the end cost.

Cheers,

Skot

On 27/08/2013 4:32 PM, Bruce Morphett wrote:
Hi All,
27x8.50R14 (685.8) (215 section width) has roughly the same OD as 215/65R16 (685.9) and 205R14 (683). No probs with rubbing. The tread looks aggressive though. They would be noisy on the bitumen. On 14's I would go for the 205R14 if you can get them. There is much wider choice of rubber in 15's & 16's. Try Tyrepower. They can source most brands & sizes.

In Noosa now. Handing over my Trakka Syncro tomorrow to AM Auto here to fit an EJ25 & GB & diff rebuild by Ron Schmidt at Kempsey. Highly recommend Ron for GB work. Thanks for the tip Hart!

Cheers,
Bruce.

From: Les Harris <leslieharris@optusnet.com.au>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, 27 August 2013 2:32 PM
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] question about where to buy tyres for the van

Christina,
I have no knowledge of how good or otherwise they are but this size fits the Syncro without hitting anything. The price is certainly remarkable and the tread looks like it out-climb a goanna up a gum tree!
Les
From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Les Harris
Sent: 27 August 2013 14:46
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] question about where to buy tyres for the van
Neil,
Crikey!!
They look quite fearsome! However, they are the same size as the BFG All Terrain that was widely used on the Syncro – until BFG stopped making them in that size! (The size range now starts at 15”.)
Les



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You need a "light truck" or "C" load rated tyre to be legal on a T3 syncro.

The original tyre was the Michelin X, not an aggressive tread tyre but served its purpose back then.

Given the dearth of 14" "Light Truck" or "C" rated tyres, this may be one of the few legal options left ...


Ken



To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: christinathwaites@yahoo.co.uk
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 04:16:28 +0100
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] question about where to buy tyres for the van

 


hi there,
some questions about tyres - can anyone help?
the sizes we can fit on our van are:
185 R14
205 R14
205/70 R14

ideally we would like all terrain tyres but the best quote we got was 235 $ per tyre - we are not rich enough for this so might go with 95$ per tyre for normal ones (Nixxon 205/70 R14). Are these normal prices? Anyone got any better ideas? we need new tyres to pass our rego....
Thanks Christina


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Sam this was posted a while back from Bill....
..My good mate Luke Pell is dismantling a telstra syncro. Motor, non diff lock box,tail shaft and front diff with working vc are all available. Luke and his family organise THE Valla VW spectacular. Based in the Nambucca Valley on the mid north coast of nsw. To contact him 02 65648008.
Maybe gives you another option...............Pete


On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 11:12 AM, heysamuelarnold <me@samarnold.org> wrote:

So I've had an independent ear confirm a noisy gearbox. Anyone know of a gearbox or crown wheel and pinion around at a good price? Hopefully though it's just the bearings. Don't know what to tell the minister of finance having recently spent quite a few dollars on the syncro.

Cheers, Sam

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "heysamuelarnold" <me@...> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> So I have only had my decoupler for a month or two now, new front locking diff and haven't driven that many kms. Probably not related? I have noticed a whine when doing 70+ km/h, slight in third, noticeable in fourth, only under load. Any suggestions on what this might be - is the gearbox going to need reconditioning or? A specific bearing or could be anything in there? Yet again I have also noticed one of the CVs with a slight click.
>
> Thanks, Sam
>


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You do not need LT or C rating on a syncro. There is no such regulation and there never has been.

It's just another one of your fantasies Ken.

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Ken Garratt <unclekenz@...> wrote:
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> You need a "light truck" or "C" load rated tyre to be legal on a T3 syncro.
> The original tyre was the Michelin X, not an aggressive tread tyre but served its purpose back then.
> Given the dearth of 14" "Light Truck" or "C" rated tyres, this may be one of the few legal options left ...
> Goto: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/KUMHO-205-75R14C-109-107R-857-Light-Truck-205-75-14-Inch-Tyre-2057514-/261266121137?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3cd4aca1b1
> Ken
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> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> From: christinathwaites@...
> Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 04:16:28 +0100
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] question about where to buy tyres for the van
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> hi there,some questions about tyres - can anyone help?the sizes we can fit on our van are:185 R14205 R14205/70 R14
> ideally we would like all terrain tyres but the best quote we got was 235 $ per tyre - we are not rich enough for this so might go with 95$ per tyre for normal ones (Nixxon 205/70 R14). Are these normal prices? Anyone got any better ideas? we need new tyres to pass our rego....Thanks Christina
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Telstra syncros are generally rooted.
Get a new rnp if u love your Syncro and if its at fault.

Sent from my iPhone

On 27/08/2013, at 5:24 PM, Peter Wilson <peterw1000@gmail.com> wrote:

Sam this was posted a while back from Bill....
 
..My good mate Luke Pell is dismantling a telstra syncro. Motor, non diff lock box,tail shaft and front diff with working vc are all available. Luke and his family organise THE Valla VW spectacular. Based in the Nambucca Valley on the mid north coast of nsw. To contact him 02 65648008.
 
Maybe gives you another option...............Pete


On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 11:12 AM, heysamuelarnold <me@samarnold.org> wrote:
 

So I've had an independent ear confirm a noisy gearbox. Anyone know of a gearbox or crown wheel and pinion around at a good price? Hopefully though it's just the bearings. Don't know what to tell the minister of finance having recently spent quite a few dollars on the syncro.

Cheers, Sam

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "heysamuelarnold" <me@...> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> So I have only had my decoupler for a month or two now, new front locking diff and haven't driven that many kms. Probably not related? I have noticed a whine when doing 70+ km/h, slight in third, noticeable in fourth, only under load. Any suggestions on what this might be - is the gearbox going to need reconditioning or? A specific bearing or could be anything in there? Yet again I have also noticed one of the CVs with a slight click.
>
> Thanks, Sam
>


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Hi Christina,

Have just consulted the Owners Manual and it says that, not including the 16 inch wheels,
that all the wheels used on 2 WD & 4WD T3s are 5 1/2 J X 14 inch.
Although I have some recall that Syncro wheels are different to 2WD wheels,
but don't even though I have both,
don't know how they are different.

2WD tyre range:
175 R 14 6PR
185 R 14 6PR 99N
205/70 R 14 97 R
185 R 14 C6 PR99 N
205/70 R14 97 R

4 WD tyre range:
185 R 14 6PR 99N
205/70 R 14 97 R
205/70 R14 97 R

The most important things we need to consider apart from the wheel diameter, is the rim size range of any available tyres.
These days a lot of desirable tyres are made for rims much wider than ours.
The second thing is the load rating and as per the above ours is 97 plus.
The third thing depends on how serious we are with regard to off road.
If we are maily highway then ordinary car tyres will do,
but if we are seriously off road,
we need six ply with substantial side walls.
Lots of tyres cop punctured side walls when under compression the side walls are exposed to sharp objects.

Tyres that I have used:
My favourite, no longer available: Michelin 205 R 14 CPR6 105/103 XC 4S

Some years ago, I acquired a set of 15" wheels with the Toyo tyres like the ones on e-bay and one hot summer between Christmas and New Year, out around Narrabri in 40+ degrees conditions, on molten black top, three of them disintegrated within 50 Ks of each other. I normally travel with two spares, but this time it was a tow in to a camping area with cabins.

They were replaced on New Years Eve by 215/70 R15 C 109/107 Firestone CVH2000's by the Narrabri tyre dealer after a local picked them up for us from Dubbo.
You have to love country people !!!

I am currently looking at:
and both of these are for my 15" Mecedes Benz wheels:
Maxxis M8060 TREPADOR (RADIAL) http://www.maxxistyres.com.au/tyredetails.php?id=16&cat=4

Michelin Latitude Cross 205/70R15 http://www.michelin.com.au/Products-Services/Car-SUV-LT/suv/size.html?summer=Latitude%20Cross

I'd appreciate any intelligence on what others are using these days, but otherwise hope this helps.

Peter


--Original Message Text---
From: christina thwaites
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 04:16:28 +0100 (BST)


hi there,
some questions about tyres - can anyone help?
the sizes we can fit on our van are:
185 R14
205 R14
205/70 R14


ideally we would like all terrain tyres but the best quote we got was 235 $ per tyre - we are not rich enough for this so might go with 95$ per tyre for normal ones (Nixxon 205/70 R14). Are these normal prices? Anyone got any better ideas? we need new tyres to pass our rego....
Thanks Christina













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Peter,

Syncro Wheels: From memory, all Australian delivered Syncros came with 6” wheels.  Phill will be able to give a definitive answer on that.

Les

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Thanks for this Les,
This is possibly what Mark Hammond meant when he told me that the 2WD & 4WD wheels were different.
My problem is that this conversation was back in the early 90s, and these things a difficult to remember.

Hopefully Phil will read our E-mails and clear this up.
If they are 6" then it might open up the range of tyre choices.

Peter




--Original Message Text---
From: Les Harris
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 12:35:42 +1000





Peter,

Syncro Wheels: From memory, all Australian delivered Syncros came with 6 wheels. Phill will be able to give a definitive answer on that.

Les





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Peter
I'm running a set of Maxxis 751. 215/75r15. My second set. On previous posts I have recommended these tyres. I have changed my mind. This latest set is developing a lot of cracks in the side walls and one alarming split after about 20000km and 18months. The tyre deaer I bought them from said they were abused. They were not, just used for the purpose they were made for. The last set had 50000kn with plenty of life left when a side wall blow out meant replacing all 5. Anyway this is one tyre I beleave to have soft side walls and to avoid. Bill