YAHOO GROUPS APOCALYPSE AFFECTING THIS GROUP TOMORROW

Yahoo Groups (the operator of this email list and resource) is partly shutting down today, Monday, October 28, 2019. As of this date, the website is scheduled to start becoming non-responsive and users will no longer be able to upload FILES to the FILES area. The incredible history of older emails, which probably represents a bazillion hours of advanced engineering, literally a priceless archive, will start to become inaccessible. An article about what is happening is here: https://lifehacker.com/how-to-save-and-migrate-your-yahoo-groups-data-before-i-1839172243

We will have a few more days to try to grab the contents of the group off the web so we can preserve the priceless resources buried in its history. The entire database is scheduled to be DELETED on December 14, 2019. However, 3^rd parties are asking that to save the data in the FILES sections and other data that submissions should be made by DECEMBER 1 or else data in the groups will be lost.

ADMINISTRATORS of the groups can port the data from their groups over by signing up with groups.io which is a website created by the founder of egroups, which is essentially the founding website for  Yahoo Groups. Sign up here to get your transfer request in, and do it by December 1, 2019. There is some indication that the photos in the archives or FILES areas may already be going bad as I write.

If you are an administrator of this group and you can’t face this issue because you have moved on in life or have other pressing demands and can’t do it right away, I guess I will volunteer myself to help if you want. What you do is to add me (or some other trusted person) to be administrator of this group and that person can try to handle the transfer, following the instructions at https://groups.io/yahootransfer . If we cannot track down all the administrator of this and the related groups, it sounds like the only other option is for somebody to laboriously download the data themselves manually, which may be an impossible task. So it is with some urgency for us to waken the administrators who may have gone dormant. I have all the emails going back for all related groups to 1994 on my hard drive, but probably not in a form that is practical for me to restore to the community in a reasonable amount of time. Accordingly, there is some urgency for us to get the administrators going on this and to notify us publically that they are on the case.

If you are reading this and are of an independent sort, you can also try to protect yourself by going to the FILES area of some or all of the groups and try to download what is there onto your hard drive and then maybe we can find a venue online to re-upload the content. I noticed that there is also some other efforts to make export tools, such as on GITHUB.

Note that the email functionality of these groups will not stop working, but the web interface, and content search functionality will stop working and the FILES and PHOTOS will be deleted.

Related affected major groups with outstanding archives include the list below. Of these, I am administrator only of the first group, so I am going to try to groups.io/yahootransfer process now.

EZ30D

Ig_syncro16                                       

limbolist                                              

lowrheiner                                         

subaru_vw_swaps                                         

Subaru-Tech     

subaruvanagon                

Syncro                 

Syncro_T3_Australia                      

Syncro16                                             

syncrolist                                            

SyncroSA                                            

SyncroSafari                                      

SyncroWC                                          

TDI-conversion                

vanagon                                              

Vanagon_Diesel                                              

Vanagon-VAG-EngConv                                               

Vanagon-Westfalia                                        

vanagonzetec                                   

VW_SYNCRO_QUEBEC                                 

vwbusclub                                         

vwbussyncro                                    

wetwesties                       

wolfsburg_campers        

On Wed, 30 Oct 2019 at 06:24, Rowan Hardinge rowan.hardinge@yahoo.com [Syncro_T3_Australia] <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Hi Derek,

My Nephew is working on the migration of all the files, photos and conversations to Groups.io

He is an IT professional works for ING Bank.

We are in good hands I believe and hope to have keys for our new forum soon

Kind regards,

On Tuesday, 29 October 2019, 03:41:55 am AEST, derekdrew@derekmail.com [Syncro_T3_Australia] <syncro_t3_australia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Yahoo Groups (the operator of this email list and resource) is partly shutting down today, Monday, October 28, 2019. As of this date, the website is scheduled to start becoming non-responsive and users will no longer be able to upload FILES to the FILES area. The incredible history of older emails, which probably represents a bazillion hours of advanced engineering, literally a priceless archive, will start to become inaccessible. An article about what is happening is here: https://lifehacker.com/how-to-save-and-migrate-your-yahoo-groups-data-before-i-1839172243

We will have a few more days to try to grab the contents of the group off the web so we can preserve the priceless resources buried in its history. The entire database is scheduled to be DELETED on December 14, 2019. However, 3^rd parties are asking that to save the data in the FILES sections and other data that submissions should be made by DECEMBER 1 or else data in the groups will be lost.

ADMINISTRATORS of the groups can port the data from their groups over by signing up with groups.io which is a website created by the founder of egroups, which is essentially the founding website for Yahoo Groups. Sign up here to get your transfer request in, and do it by December 1, 2019. There is some indication that the photos in the archives or FILES areas may already be going bad as I write.

If you are an administrator of this group and you can’t face this issue because you have moved on in life or have other pressing demands and can’t do it right away, I guess I will volunteer myself to help if you want. What you do is to add me (or some other trusted person) to be administrator of this group and that person can try to handle the transfer, following the instructions at https://groups.io/yahootransfer . If we cannot track down all the administrator of this and the related groups, it sounds like the only other option is for somebody to laboriously download the data themselves manually, which may be an impossible task. So it is with some urgency for us to waken the administrators who may have gone dormant. I have all the emails going back for all related groups to 1994 on my hard drive, but probably not in a form that is practical for me to restore to the community in a reasonable amount of time. Accordingly, there is some urgency for us to get the administrators going on this and to notify us publically that they are on the case.

If you are reading this and are of an independent sort, you can also try to protect yourself by going to the FILES area of some or all of the groups and try to download what is there onto your hard drive and then maybe we can find a venue online to re-upload the content. I noticed that there is also some other efforts to make export tools, such as on GITHUB.

Note that the email functionality of these groups will not stop working, but the web interface, and content search functionality will stop working and the FILES and PHOTOS will be deleted.

Related affected major groups with outstanding archives include the list below. Of these, I am administrator only of the first group, so I am going to try to groups.io/yahootransfer process now.

EZ30D

Ig_syncro16

limbolist

lowrheiner

subaru_vw_swaps

Subaru-Tech

subaruvanagon

Syncro

Syncro_T3_Australia

Syncro16

syncrolist

SyncroSA

SyncroSafari

SyncroWC

TDI-conversion

vanagon

Vanagon_Diesel

Vanagon-VAG-EngConv

Vanagon-Westfalia

vanagonzetec

VW_SYNCRO_QUEBEC

vwbusclub

vwbussyncro

wetwesties

wolfsburg_campers

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Hi Jon

I can help if needed, I've spoken to Greg about it before as well. IT and software development is my daily routine, I run online services and manage virtual servers for some clients amongst everything else.

I created and run the current setup for type901.org, this has a simple front end and then the primary part is the forum (a vBulletin system). I you want to go in a similar direction with some forum software, opensource or commercial, on our own server in Australia controlled by the admins and no one else, then I can certainly help there as well as with any other plans you have.

Now if we could get www.syncro.com.au onboard and add the forum, that would be ideal.

Cheers, Uwe

Hi Rowan,

Thanks for the efforts. For your and everyones information, I have successfully downloaded all historical messages, files and photos with the view to moving these to alternative forum soon. This is something that has been on the cards for a few years now as Yahoo have been making noises about closing Groups down for a while. I worked on getting this started a couple of years ago but life got in the way. Les and I spoke about this and Greg, Scott and Mark (current admins) have all been involved.

I will try and get something up and running soon. There may be a small yearly cost associated with running a new site so if anyone is looking to sponsor this or contribute, please let me know. Also if anyone would like to help out then please also shout out (may need some volunteers to help with testing).

Jon.

On 30 October 2019 at 9:14:06 am, Rowan Hardinge rowan.hardinge@yahoo.com [Syncro_T3_Australia] (syncro_t3_australia@yahoogroups.com) wrote:

Ok Guys,

Liam started downloading the files and Yahoo servers kicked him off after 700 messages. There is a lockout for 3 hours after each 700 messages of 56995 messages are downloaded so it may take several days to download them all that way.

I recommend following the instructions on groups.io for transfer which requires a Moderator to follow the steps diligently. Also it will cost for premium membership for one year to make it go smoothly $220

Again the Moderator needs to take the steps to save the group by following the steps outlined

below by Derek at https://groups.io/yahootransfer

It's not hard to set up a Go Fund Me page to raise the funds required.

Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone

On Tuesday, October 29, 2019, 12:17 pm, Rowan Hardinge <rowan.hardinge@yahoo..com> wrote:

Hi Derek,

My Nephew is working on the migration of all the files, photos and conversations to Groups.io

He is an IT professional works for ING Bank..

We are in good hands I believe and hope to have keys for our new forum soon

Kind regards,

On Tuesday, 29 October 2019, 03:41:55 am AEST, derekdrew@derekmail.com [Syncro_T3_Australia] <syncro_t3_australia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Yahoo Groups (the operator of this email list and resource) is partly shutting down today, Monday, October 28, 2019. As of this date, the website is scheduled to start becoming non-responsive and users will no longer be able to upload FILES to the FILES area. The incredible history of older emails, which probably represents a bazillion hours of advanced engineering, literally a priceless archive, will start to become inaccessible. An article about what is happening is here: https://lifehacker.com/how-to-save-and-migrate-your-yahoo-groups-data-before-i-1839172243

We will have a few more days to try to grab the contents of the group off the web so we can preserve the priceless resources buried in its history. The entire database is scheduled to be DELETED on December 14, 2019. However, 3^rd parties are asking that to save the data in the FILES sections and other data that submissions should be made by DECEMBER 1 or else data in the groups will be lost.

ADMINISTRATORS of the groups can port the data from their groups over by signing up with groups.io which is a website created by the founder of egroups, which is essentially the founding website for Yahoo Groups. Sign up here to get your transfer request in, and do it by December 1, 2019. There is some indication that the photos in the archives or FILES areas may already be going bad as I write.

If you are an administrator of this group and you can’t face this issue because you have moved on in life or have other pressing demands and can’t do it right away, I guess I will volunteer myself to help if you want. What you do is to add me (or some other trusted person) to be administrator of this group and that person can try to handle the transfer, following the instructions at Log In . If we cannot track down all the administrator of this and the related groups, it sounds like the only other option is for somebody to laboriously download the data themselves manually, which may be an impossible task. So it is with some urgency for us to waken the administrators who may have gone dormant. I have all the emails going back for all related groups to 1994 on my hard drive, but probably not in a form that is practical for me to restore to the community in a reasonable amount of time. Accordingly, there is some urgency for us to get the administrators going on this and to notify us publically that they are on the case.

Log In

If you are reading this and are of an independent sort, you can also try to protect yourself by going to the FILES area of some or all of the groups and try to download what is there onto your hard drive and then maybe we can find a venue online to re-upload the content. I noticed that there is also some other efforts to make export tools, such as on GITHUB.

Note that the email functionality of these groups will not stop working, but the web interface, and content search functionality will stop working and the FILES and PHOTOS will be deleted.

Related affected major groups with outstanding archives include the list below. Of these, I am administrator only of the first group, so I am going to try to groups.io/yahootransfer process now.

EZ30D

Ig_syncro16

limbolist

lowrheiner

subaru_vw_swaps

Subaru-Tech

subaruvanagon

Syncro

Syncro_T3_Australia

Syncro16

syncrolist

SyncroSA

SyncroSafari

SyncroWC

TDI-conversion

vanagon

Vanagon_Diesel

Vanagon-VAG-EngConv

Vanagon-Westfalia

vanagonzetec

VW_SYNCRO_QUEBEC

vwbusclub

vwbussyncro

wetwesties

wolfsburg_campers

Hi Jon

I can help if needed, I've spoken to Greg about it before as well. IT and software development is my daily routine, I run online services and manage virtual servers for some clients amongst everything else.

I created and run the current setup for type901.org, this has a simple front end and then the primary part is the forum (a vBulletin system). I you want to go in a similar direction with some forum software, opensource or commercial, on our own server in Australia controlled by the admins and no one else, then I can certainly help there as well as with any other plans you have.

Now if we could get www.syncro.com.au onboard and add the forum, that would be ideal.

Cheers, Uwe

On 30/10/2019 12:07 pm, Jon Bartlett mail@jaybe.net [Syncro_T3_Australia] wrote:

Hi Rowan,

Thanks for the efforts. For your and everyones information, I have successfully downloaded all historical messages, files and photos with the view to moving these to alternative forum soon. This is something that has been on the cards for a few years now as Yahoo have been making noises about closing Groups down for a while. I worked on getting this started a couple of years ago but life got in the way. Les and I spoke about this and Greg, Scott and Mark (current admins) have all been involved.

I will try and get something up and running soon. There may be a small yearly cost associated with running a new site so if anyone is looking to sponsor this or contribute, please let me know. Also if anyone would like to help out then please also shout out (may need some volunteers to help with testing).

Jon.

On 30 October 2019 at 9:14:06 am, Rowan Hardinge rowan.hardinge@yahoo.com [Syncro_T3_Australia] (syncro_t3_australia@yahoogroups.com) wrote:

Ok Guys,

Liam started downloading the files and Yahoo servers kicked him off after 700 messages. There is a lockout for 3 hours after each 700 messages of 56995 messages are downloaded so it may take several days to download them all that way.

I recommend following the instructions on groups.io for transfer which requires a Moderator to follow the steps diligently. Also it will cost for premium membership for one year to make it go smoothly $220

Again the Moderator needs to take the steps to save the group by following the steps outlined

below by Derek at https://groups.io/yahootransfer

It's not hard to set up a Go Fund Me page to raise the funds required.

Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone

On Tuesday, October 29, 2019, 12:17 pm, Rowan Hardinge <rowan.hardinge@yahoo..com> wrote:

Hi Derek,

My Nephew is working on the migration of all the files, photos and conversations to Groups.io

He is an IT professional works for ING Bank..

We are in good hands I believe and hope to have keys for our new forum soon

Kind regards,

On Tuesday, 29 October 2019, 03:41:55 am AEST, derekdrew@derekmail.com [Syncro_T3_Australia] <syncro_t3_australia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Yahoo Groups (the operator of this email list and resource) is partly shutting down today, Monday, October 28, 2019. As of this date, the website is scheduled to start becoming non-responsive and users will no longer be able to upload FILES to the FILES area. The incredible history of older emails, which probably represents a bazillion hours of advanced engineering, literally a priceless archive, will start to become inaccessible. An article about what is happening is here: https://lifehacker.com/how-to-save-and-migrate-your-yahoo-groups-data-before-i-1839172243

We will have a few more days to try to grab the contents of the group off the web so we can preserve the priceless resources buried in its history. The entire database is scheduled to be DELETED on December 14, 2019. However, 3^rd parties are asking that to save the data in the FILES sections and other data that submissions should be made by DECEMBER 1 or else data in the groups will be lost.

ADMINISTRATORS of the groups can port the data from their groups over by signing up with groups.io which is a website created by the founder of egroups, which is essentially the founding website for Yahoo Groups. Sign up here to get your transfer request in, and do it by December 1, 2019. There is some indication that the photos in the archives or FILES areas may already be going bad as I write.

If you are an administrator of this group and you can’t face this issue because you have moved on in life or have other pressing demands and can’t do it right away, I guess I will volunteer myself to help if you want. What you do is to add me (or some other trusted person) to be administrator of this group and that person can try to handle the transfer, following the instructions at Log In . If we cannot track down all the administrator of this and the related groups, it sounds like the only other option is for somebody to laboriously download the data themselves manually, which may be an impossible task. So it is with some urgency for us to waken the administrators who may have gone dormant. I have all the emails going back for all related groups to 1994 on my hard drive, but probably not in a form that is practical for me to restore to the community in a reasonable amount of time. Accordingly, there is some urgency for us to get the administrators going on this and to notify us publically that they are on the case.

Log In

If you are reading this and are of an independent sort, you can also try to protect yourself by going to the FILES area of some or all of the groups and try to download what is there onto your hard drive and then maybe we can find a venue online to re-upload the content. I noticed that there is also some other efforts to make export tools, such as on GITHUB.

Note that the email functionality of these groups will not stop working, but the web interface, and content search functionality will stop working and the FILES and PHOTOS will be deleted.

Related affected major groups with outstanding archives include the list below. Of these, I am administrator only of the first group, so I am going to try to groups.io/yahootransfer process now.

EZ30D

Ig_syncro16

limbolist

lowrheiner

subaru_vw_swaps

Subaru-Tech

subaruvanagon

Syncro

Syncro_T3_Australia

Syncro16

syncrolist

SyncroSA

SyncroSafari

SyncroWC

TDI-conversion

vanagon

Vanagon_Diesel

Vanagon-VAG-EngConv

Vanagon-Westfalia

vanagonzetec

VW_SYNCRO_QUEBEC

vwbusclub

vwbussyncro

wetwesties

wolfsburg_campers

Thanks for putting yourself forward Uwe. I have just got off the phone to Mark Kofahl who owns the syncro.com site. He has very generously agreed to using it in the manner you described. In addition he offered the ability to scrape the site if a new host is used. Mark also has an IT background. So it seems we have the dream team on the job! Jon and Uwe I will pass on Marks phone number to you both, if you could call him at your leisure. Thanks. Greg

P.S. Did you see the post about DOTVW? Mark will be there too if you can make it.

---In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, <911jack@gmail.com> wrote :

Hi Jon

I can help if needed, I've spoken to Greg about it before as well. IT and software development is my daily routine, I run online services and manage virtual servers for some clients amongst everything else.

I created and run the current setup for type901.org, this has a simple front end and then the primary part is the forum (a vBulletin system). I you want to go in a similar direction with some forum software, opensource or commercial, on our own server in Australia controlled by the admins and no one else, then I can certainly help there as well as with any other plans you have.

Now if we could get www.syncro.com.au onboard and add the forum, that would be ideal.

Cheers, Uwe

On 30/10/2019 12:07 pm, Jon Bartlett mail@jaybe.net [Syncro_T3_Australia] wrote:

Hi Rowan,

Thanks for the efforts. For your and everyones information, I have successfully downloaded all historical messages, files and photos with the view to moving these to alternative forum soon. This is something that has been on the cards for a few years now as Yahoo have been making noises about closing Groups down for a while. I worked on getting this started a couple of years ago but life got in the way. Les and I spoke about this and Greg, Scott and Mark (current admins) have all been involved.

I will try and get something up and running soon. There may be a small yearly cost associated with running a new site so if anyone is looking to sponsor this or contribute, please let me know. Also if anyone would like to help out then please also shout out (may need some volunteers to help with testing).

Jon.

On 30 October 2019 at 9:14:06 am, Rowan Hardinge rowan.hardinge@yahoo.com [Syncro_T3_Australia] (syncro_t3_australia@yahoogroups.com) wrote:

Ok Guys,

Liam started downloading the files and Yahoo servers kicked him off after 700 messages. There is a lockout for 3 hours after each 700 messages of 56995 messages are downloaded so it may take several days to download them all that way.

I recommend following the instructions on groups.io for transfer which requires a Moderator to follow the steps diligently. Also it will cost for premium membership for one year to make it go smoothly $220

Again the Moderator needs to take the steps to save the group by following the steps outlined

below by Derek at https://groups.io/yahootransfer

It's not hard to set up a Go Fund Me page to raise the funds required.

Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone

On Tuesday, October 29, 2019, 12:17 pm, Rowan Hardinge <rowan.hardinge@yahoo..com> wrote:

Hi Derek,

My Nephew is working on the migration of all the files, photos and conversations to Groups.io

He is an IT professional works for ING Bank..

We are in good hands I believe and hope to have keys for our new forum soon

Kind regards,

On Tuesday, 29 October 2019, 03:41:55 am AEST, derekdrew@derekmail.com [Syncro_T3_Australia] <syncro_t3_australia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Yahoo Groups (the operator of this email list and resource) is partly shutting down today, Monday, October 28, 2019. As of this date, the website is scheduled to start becoming non-responsive and users will no longer be able to upload FILES to the FILES area. The incredible history of older emails, which probably represents a bazillion hours of advanced engineering, literally a priceless archive, will start to become inaccessible. An article about what is happening is here: https://lifehacker.com/how-to-save-and-migrate-your-yahoo-groups-data-before-i-1839172243

We will have a few more days to try to grab the contents of the group off the web so we can preserve the priceless resources buried in its history. The entire database is scheduled to be DELETED on December 14, 2019. However, 3^rd parties are asking that to save the data in the FILES sections and other data that submissions should be made by DECEMBER 1 or else data in the groups will be lost.

ADMINISTRATORS of the groups can port the data from their groups over by signing up with groups.io which is a website created by the founder of egroups, which is essentially the founding website for Yahoo Groups. Sign up here to get your transfer request in, and do it by December 1, 2019. There is some indication that the photos in the archives or FILES areas may already be going bad as I write.

If you are an administrator of this group and you can’t face this issue because you have moved on in life or have other pressing demands and can’t do it right away, I guess I will volunteer myself to help if you want. What you do is to add me (or some other trusted person) to be administrator of this group and that person can try to handle the transfer, following the instructions at Log In . If we cannot track down all the administrator of this and the related groups, it sounds like the only other option is for somebody to laboriously download the data themselves manually, which may be an impossible task. So it is with some urgency for us to waken the administrators who may have gone dormant. I have all the emails going back for all related groups to 1994 on my hard drive, but probably not in a form that is practical for me to restore to the community in a reasonable amount of time. Accordingly, there is some urgency for us to get the administrators going on this and to notify us publically that they are on the case.

Log In

If you are reading this and are of an independent sort, you can also try to protect yourself by going to the FILES area of some or all of the groups and try to download what is there onto your hard drive and then maybe we can find a venue online to re-upload the content. I noticed that there is also some other efforts to make export tools, such as on GITHUB.

Note that the email functionality of these groups will not stop working, but the web interface, and content search functionality will stop working and the FILES and PHOTOS will be deleted.

Related affected major groups with outstanding archives include the list below. Of these, I am administrator only of the first group, so I am going to try to groups.io/yahootransfer process now.

EZ30D

Ig_syncro16

limbolist

lowrheiner

subaru_vw_swaps

Subaru-Tech

subaruvanagon

Syncro

Syncro_T3_Australia

Syncro16

syncrolist

SyncroSA

SyncroSafari

SyncroWC

TDI-conversion

vanagon

Vanagon_Diesel

Vanagon-VAG-EngConv

Vanagon-Westfalia

vanagonzetec

VW_SYNCRO_QUEBEC

vwbusclub

vwbussyncro

wetwesties

wolfsburg_campers

Its great that Mark is onboard, I think he was ahead of the curve when he set it up after yahoo started making noises a long time ago.

I'd recommend a new host in the form of our own VPS (virtual private server) running out of a Sydney data centre (I use Vultr.com) and under our full control. So scraping the current site is a good idea, then on the new host we can integrate the forum into it. Once setup, we can keep backups in multiple places, it won't be locked into any provider, even the VPS can be moved to different datacentres.

Uwe

Thanks for putting yourself forward Uwe. I have just got off the phone to Mark Kofahl who owns the syncro.com site. He has very generously agreed to using it in the manner you described. In addition he offered the ability to scrape the site if a new host is used. Mark also has an IT background. So it seems we have the dream team on the job! Jon and Uwe I will pass on Marks phone number to you both, if you could call him at your leisure. Thanks. Greg

P.S. Did you see the post about DOTVW? Mark will be there too if you can make it.

---In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, <911jack@gmail.com> wrote :

Hi Jon

I can help if needed, I've spoken to Greg about it before as well. IT and software development is my daily routine, I run online services and manage virtual servers for some clients amongst everything else.

I created and run the current setup for type901.org, this has a simple front end and then the primary part is the forum (a vBulletin system). I you want to go in a similar direction with some forum software, opensource or commercial, on our own server in Australia controlled by the admins and no one else, then I can certainly help there as well as with any other plans you have.

Now if we could get www.syncro.com.au onboard and add the forum, that would be ideal.

Cheers, Uwe

On 30/10/2019 12:07 pm, Jon Bartlett mail@jaybe.net [Syncro_T3_Australia] wrote:

Hi Rowan,

Thanks for the efforts. For your and everyones information, I have successfully downloaded all historical messages, files and photos with the view to moving these to alternative forum soon. This is something that has been on the cards for a few years now as Yahoo have been making noises about closing Groups down for a while. I worked on getting this started a couple of years ago but life got in the way. Les and I spoke about this and Greg, Scott and Mark (current admins) have all been involved.

I will try and get something up and running soon. There may be a small yearly cost associated with running a new site so if anyone is looking to sponsor this or contribute, please let me know. Also if anyone would like to help out then please also shout out (may need some volunteers to help with testing).

Jon.

On 30 October 2019 at 9:14:06 am, Rowan Hardinge rowan.hardinge@yahoo.com [Syncro_T3_Australia] (syncro_t3_australia@yahoogroups.com) wrote:

Ok Guys,

Liam started downloading the files and Yahoo servers kicked him off after 700 messages. There is a lockout for 3 hours after each 700 messages of 56995 messages are downloaded so it may take several days to download them all that way.

I recommend following the instructions on groups.io for transfer which requires a Moderator to follow the steps diligently. Also it will cost for premium membership for one year to make it go smoothly $220

Again the Moderator needs to take the steps to save the group by following the steps outlined

below by Derek at https://groups.io/yahootransfer

It's not hard to set up a Go Fund Me page to raise the funds required.

Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone

On Tuesday, October 29, 2019, 12:17 pm, Rowan Hardinge <rowan.hardinge@yahoo..com> wrote:

Hi Derek,

My Nephew is working on the migration of all the files, photos and conversations to Groups.io

He is an IT professional works for ING Bank..

We are in good hands I believe and hope to have keys for our new forum soon

Kind regards,

On Tuesday, 29 October 2019, 03:41:55 am AEST, derekdrew@derekmail.com [Syncro_T3_Australia] <syncro_t3_australia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Yahoo Groups (the operator of this email list and resource) is partly shutting down today, Monday, October 28, 2019. As of this date, the website is scheduled to start becoming non-responsive and users will no longer be able to upload FILES to the FILES area. The incredible history of older emails, which probably represents a bazillion hours of advanced engineering, literally a priceless archive, will start to become inaccessible. An article about what is happening is here: https://lifehacker.com/how-to-save-and-migrate-your-yahoo-groups-data-before-i-1839172243

We will have a few more days to try to grab the contents of the group off the web so we can preserve the priceless resources buried in its history. The entire database is scheduled to be DELETED on December 14, 2019. However, 3^rd parties are asking that to save the data in the FILES sections and other data that submissions should be made by DECEMBER 1 or else data in the groups will be lost.

ADMINISTRATORS of the groups can port the data from their groups over by signing up with groups.io which is a website created by the founder of egroups, which is essentially the founding website for Yahoo Groups. Sign up here to get your transfer request in, and do it by December 1, 2019. There is some indication that the photos in the archives or FILES areas may already be going bad as I write.

If you are an administrator of this group and you can’t face this issue because you have moved on in life or have other pressing demands and can’t do it right away, I guess I will volunteer myself to help if you want. What you do is to add me (or some other trusted person) to be administrator of this group and that person can try to handle the transfer, following the instructions at Log In . If we cannot track down all the administrator of this and the related groups, it sounds like the only other option is for somebody to laboriously download the data themselves manually, which may be an impossible task. So it is with some urgency for us to waken the administrators who may have gone dormant. I have all the emails going back for all related groups to 1994 on my hard drive, but probably not in a form that is practical for me to restore to the community in a reasonable amount of time. Accordingly, there is some urgency for us to get the administrators going on this and to notify us publically that they are on the case.

Log In

If you are reading this and are of an independent sort, you can also try to protect yourself by going to the FILES area of some or all of the groups and try to download what is there onto your hard drive and then maybe we can find a venue online to re-upload the content. I noticed that there is also some other efforts to make export tools, such as on GITHUB.

Note that the email functionality of these groups will not stop working, but the web interface, and content search functionality will stop working and the FILES and PHOTOS will be deleted.

Related affected major groups with outstanding archives include the list below. Of these, I am administrator only of the first group, so I am going to try to groups.io/yahootransfer process now.

EZ30D

Ig_syncro16

limbolist

lowrheiner

subaru_vw_swaps

Subaru-Tech

subaruvanagon

Syncro

Syncro_T3_Australia

Syncro16

syncrolist

SyncroSA

SyncroSafari

SyncroWC

TDI-conversion

vanagon

Vanagon_Diesel

Vanagon-VAG-EngConv

Vanagon-Westfalia

vanagonzetec

VW_SYNCRO_QUEBEC

vwbusclub

vwbussyncro

wetwesties

wolfsburg_campers

Scott,

They are great machines and their troubles can be overcome, the knowledge in the forum is a testament to that. Staying standalone and using www.syncro.com.au, it couldn't get any better, then again also going to a modern forum platform will be the icing, the whole experience should be a lot friendly and easier to use from any device.

It will bring a new way of doing things meaning a little bit of relearning, but moving as an addon to another forum would do the same.

Ready to help with the reboot when everyone is ready.

Uwe

Uwe,

All of that sounds fantastic to me.

Jon has been great downloading all the data and photos but he is not set up to get a new format running and neither Greg nor I can.

I would much rather it be someone in the group directly that a friend or relative of the group and someone with the resources and time.

I would love if this stand alone syncro forum does continue.

The specific knowledge and interest in these awesome but troublesome vehicles is vital to us.

Cheers,

Scott

On 31/10/2019 9:40 am, 911Jack 911jack@gmail.com [Syncro_T3_Australia] wrote:

Hi Jon

I can help if needed, I've spoken to Greg about it before as well. IT and software development is my daily routine, I run online services and manage virtual servers for some clients amongst everything else.

I created and run the current setup for type901.org, this has a simple front end and then the primary part is the forum (a vBulletin system). I you want to go in a similar direction with some forum software, opensource or commercial, on our own server in Australia controlled by the admins and no one else, then I can certainly help there as well as with any other plans you have.

Now if we could get www.syncro.com.au onboard and add the forum, that would be ideal.

Cheers, Uwe

On 30/10/2019 12:07 pm, Jon Bartlett mail@jaybe.net [Syncro_T3_Australia] wrote:

Hi Rowan,

Thanks for the efforts. For your and everyones information, I have successfully downloaded all historical messages, files and photos with the view to moving these to alternative forum soon. This is something that has been on the cards for a few years now as Yahoo have been making noises about closing Groups down for a while. I worked on getting this started a couple of years ago but life got in the way. Les and I spoke about this and Greg, Scott and Mark (current admins) have all been involved.

I will try and get something up and running soon. There may be a small yearly cost associated with running a new site so if anyone is looking to sponsor this or contribute, please let me know. Also if anyone would like to help out then please also shout out (may need some volunteers to help with testing).

Jon.

On 30 October 2019 at 9:14:06 am, Rowan Hardinge rowan.hardinge@yahoo.com [Syncro_T3_Australia] (syncro_t3_australia@yahoogroups.com) wrote:

Ok Guys,

Liam started downloading the files and Yahoo servers kicked him off after 700 messages. There is a lockout for 3 hours after each 700 messages of 56995 messages are downloaded so it may take several days to download them all that way.

I recommend following the instructions on groups.io for transfer which requires a Moderator to follow the steps diligently. Also it will cost for premium membership for one year to make it go smoothly $220

Again the Moderator needs to take the steps to save the group by following the steps outlined

below by Derek at https://groups.io/yahootransfer

It's not hard to set up a Go Fund Me page to raise the funds required.

Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone

On Tuesday, October 29, 2019, 12:17 pm, Rowan Hardinge <rowan.hardinge@yahoo..com> wrote:

Hi Derek,

My Nephew is working on the migration of all the files, photos and conversations to Groups.io

He is an IT professional works for ING Bank..

We are in good hands I believe and hope to have keys for our new forum soon

Kind regards,

On Tuesday, 29 October 2019, 03:41:55 am AEST, derekdrew@derekmail.com [Syncro_T3_Australia] <syncro_t3_australia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Yahoo Groups (the operator of this email list and resource) is partly shutting down today, Monday, October 28, 2019. As of this date, the website is scheduled to start becoming non-responsive and users will no longer be able to upload FILES to the FILES area. The incredible history of older emails, which probably represents a bazillion hours of advanced engineering, literally a priceless archive, will start to become inaccessible. An article about what is happening is here: https://lifehacker.com/how-to-save-and-migrate-your-yahoo-groups-data-before-i-1839172243

We will have a few more days to try to grab the contents of the group off the web so we can preserve the priceless resources buried in its history. The entire database is scheduled to be DELETED on December 14, 2019. However, 3^rd parties are asking that to save the data in the FILES sections and other data that submissions should be made by DECEMBER 1 or else data in the groups will be lost.

ADMINISTRATORS of the groups can port the data from their groups over by signing up with groups.io which is a website created by the founder of egroups, which is essentially the founding website for Yahoo Groups. Sign up here to get your transfer request in, and do it by December 1, 2019. There is some indication that the photos in the archives or FILES areas may already be going bad as I write.

If you are an administrator of this group and you can’t face this issue because you have moved on in life or have other pressing demands and can’t do it right away, I guess I will volunteer myself to help if you want. What you do is to add me (or some other trusted person) to be administrator of this group and that person can try to handle the transfer, following the instructions at Log In . If we cannot track down all the administrator of this and the related groups, it sounds like the only other option is for somebody to laboriously download the data themselves manually, which may be an impossible task. So it is with some urgency for us to waken the administrators who may have gone dormant. I have all the emails going back for all related groups to 1994 on my hard drive, but probably not in a form that is practical for me to restore to the community in a reasonable amount of time. Accordingly, there is some urgency for us to get the administrators going on this and to notify us publically that they are on the case.

Log In

If you are reading this and are of an independent sort, you can also try to protect yourself by going to the FILES area of some or all of the groups and try to download what is there onto your hard drive and then maybe we can find a venue online to re-upload the content. I noticed that there is also some other efforts to make export tools, such as on GITHUB.

Note that the email functionality of these groups will not stop working, but the web interface, and content search functionality will stop working and the FILES and PHOTOS will be deleted.

Related affected major groups with outstanding archives include the list below. Of these, I am administrator only of the first group, so I am going to try to groups.io/yahootransfer process now.

EZ30D

Ig_syncro16

limbolist

lowrheiner

subaru_vw_swaps

Subaru-Tech

subaruvanagon

Syncro

Syncro_T3_Australia

Syncro16

syncrolist

SyncroSA

SyncroSafari

SyncroWC

TDI-conversion

vanagon

Vanagon_Diesel

Vanagon-VAG-EngConv

Vanagon-Westfalia

vanagonzetec

VW_SYNCRO_QUEBEC

vwbusclub

vwbussyncro

wetwesties

wolfsburg_campers

Scott,

They are great machines and their troubles can be overcome, the knowledge in the forum is a testament to that. Staying standalone and using www.syncro.com.au, it couldn't get any better, then again also going to a modern forum platform will be the icing, the whole experience should be a lot friendly and easier to use from any device.

It will bring a new way of doing things meaning a little bit of relearning, but moving as an addon to another forum would do the same.

Ready to help with the reboot when everyone is ready.

Uwe

On 31/10/2019 9:31 pm, Scott Pitcher spbconsulting@bigpond.com [Syncro_T3_Australia] wrote:

Uwe,

All of that sounds fantastic to me.

Jon has been great downloading all the data and photos but he is not set up to get a new format running and neither Greg nor I can.

I would much rather it be someone in the group directly that a friend or relative of the group and someone with the resources and time.

I would love if this stand alone syncro forum does continue.

The specific knowledge and interest in these awesome but troublesome vehicles is vital to us.

Cheers,

Scott

On 31/10/2019 9:40 am, 911Jack 911jack@gmail.com [Syncro_T3_Australia] wrote:

Hi Jon

I can help if needed, I've spoken to Greg about it before as well. IT and software development is my daily routine, I run online services and manage virtual servers for some clients amongst everything else.

I created and run the current setup for type901.org, this has a simple front end and then the primary part is the forum (a vBulletin system). I you want to go in a similar direction with some forum software, opensource or commercial, on our own server in Australia controlled by the admins and no one else, then I can certainly help there as well as with any other plans you have.

Now if we could get www.syncro.com.au onboard and add the forum, that would be ideal.

Cheers, Uwe

On 30/10/2019 12:07 pm, Jon Bartlett mail@jaybe.net [Syncro_T3_Australia] wrote:

Hi Rowan,

Thanks for the efforts. For your and everyones information, I have successfully downloaded all historical messages, files and photos with the view to moving these to alternative forum soon. This is something that has been on the cards for a few years now as Yahoo have been making noises about closing Groups down for a while. I worked on getting this started a couple of years ago but life got in the way. Les and I spoke about this and Greg, Scott and Mark (current admins) have all been involved.

I will try and get something up and running soon. There may be a small yearly cost associated with running a new site so if anyone is looking to sponsor this or contribute, please let me know. Also if anyone would like to help out then please also shout out (may need some volunteers to help with testing).

Jon.

On 30 October 2019 at 9:14:06 am, Rowan Hardinge rowan.hardinge@yahoo.com [Syncro_T3_Australia] (syncro_t3_australia@yahoogroups.com) wrote:

Ok Guys,

Liam started downloading the files and Yahoo servers kicked him off after 700 messages. There is a lockout for 3 hours after each 700 messages of 56995 messages are downloaded so it may take several days to download them all that way.

I recommend following the instructions on groups.io for transfer which requires a Moderator to follow the steps diligently. Also it will cost for premium membership for one year to make it go smoothly $220

Again the Moderator needs to take the steps to save the group by following the steps outlined

below by Derek at https://groups.io/yahootransfer

It's not hard to set up a Go Fund Me page to raise the funds required.

Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone

On Tuesday, October 29, 2019, 12:17 pm, Rowan Hardinge <rowan.hardinge@yahoo..com> wrote:

Hi Derek,

My Nephew is working on the migration of all the files, photos and conversations to Groups.io

He is an IT professional works for ING Bank..

We are in good hands I believe and hope to have keys for our new forum soon

Kind regards,

On Tuesday, 29 October 2019, 03:41:55 am AEST, derekdrew@derekmail.com [Syncro_T3_Australia] <syncro_t3_australia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Yahoo Groups (the operator of this email list and resource) is partly shutting down today, Monday, October 28, 2019. As of this date, the website is scheduled to start becoming non-responsive and users will no longer be able to upload FILES to the FILES area. The incredible history of older emails, which probably represents a bazillion hours of advanced engineering, literally a priceless archive, will start to become inaccessible. An article about what is happening is here: https://lifehacker.com/how-to-save-and-migrate-your-yahoo-groups-data-before-i-1839172243

We will have a few more days to try to grab the contents of the group off the web so we can preserve the priceless resources buried in its history. The entire database is scheduled to be DELETED on December 14, 2019. However, 3^rd parties are asking that to save the data in the FILES sections and other data that submissions should be made by DECEMBER 1 or else data in the groups will be lost.

ADMINISTRATORS of the groups can port the data from their groups over by signing up with groups.io which is a website created by the founder of egroups, which is essentially the founding website for Yahoo Groups. Sign up here to get your transfer request in, and do it by December 1, 2019. There is some indication that the photos in the archives or FILES areas may already be going bad as I write.

If you are an administrator of this group and you can’t face this issue because you have moved on in life or have other pressing demands and can’t do it right away, I guess I will volunteer myself to help if you want. What you do is to add me (or some other trusted person) to be administrator of this group and that person can try to handle the transfer, following the instructions at Log In . If we cannot track down all the administrator of this and the related groups, it sounds like the only other option is for somebody to laboriously download the data themselves manually, which may be an impossible task. So it is with some urgency for us to waken the administrators who may have gone dormant. I have all the emails going back for all related groups to 1994 on my hard drive, but probably not in a form that is practical for me to restore to the community in a reasonable amount of time. Accordingly, there is some urgency for us to get the administrators going on this and to notify us publically that they are on the case.

Log In

If you are reading this and are of an independent sort, you can also try to protect yourself by going to the FILES area of some or all of the groups and try to download what is there onto your hard drive and then maybe we can find a venue online to re-upload the content. I noticed that there is also some other efforts to make export tools, such as on GITHUB.

Note that the email functionality of these groups will not stop working, but the web interface, and content search functionality will stop working and the FILES and PHOTOS will be deleted.

Related affected major groups with outstanding archives include the list below. Of these, I am administrator only of the first group, so I am going to try to groups.io/yahootransfer process now.

EZ30D

Ig_syncro16

limbolist

lowrheiner

subaru_vw_swaps

Subaru-Tech

subaruvanagon

Syncro

Syncro_T3_Australia

Syncro16

syncrolist

SyncroSA

SyncroSafari

SyncroWC

TDI-conversion

vanagon

Vanagon_Diesel

Vanagon-VAG-EngConv

Vanagon-Westfalia

vanagonzetec

VW_SYNCRO_QUEBEC

vwbusclub

vwbussyncro

wetwesties

wolfsburg_campers

On Fri., 1 Nov. 2019, 12:40 Scott Pitcher spbconsulting@bigpond.com [Syncro_T3_Australia], <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Thanks Uwe.

I really appreciate your efforts.

Looking forward to this ASAP as the time between now and death of the old forum (with emails and photos) is fast approaching.

Cheers,

Scott

On 1/11/2019 8:45 am, 911Jack 911jack@gmail.com [Syncro_T3_Australia] wrote:

Scott,

They are great machines and their troubles can be overcome, the knowledge in the forum is a testament to that. Staying standalone and using www.syncro.com.au, it couldn't get any better, then again also going to a modern forum platform will be the icing, the whole experience should be a lot friendly and easier to use from any device.

It will bring a new way of doing things meaning a little bit of relearning, but moving as an addon to another forum would do the same.

Ready to help with the reboot when everyone is ready.

Uwe

On 31/10/2019 9:31 pm, Scott Pitcher spbconsulting@bigpond.com [Syncro_T3_Australia] wrote:

Uwe,

All of that sounds fantastic to me.

Jon has been great downloading all the data and photos but he is not set up to get a new format running and neither Greg nor I can.

I would much rather it be someone in the group directly that a friend or relative of the group and someone with the resources and time.

I would love if this stand alone syncro forum does continue.

The specific knowledge and interest in these awesome but troublesome vehicles is vital to us.

Cheers,

Scott

On 31/10/2019 9:40 am, 911Jack 911jack@gmail.com [Syncro_T3_Australia] wrote:

Hi Jon

I can help if needed, I've spoken to Greg about it before as well. IT and software development is my daily routine, I run online services and manage virtual servers for some clients amongst everything else.

I created and run the current setup for type901.org, this has a simple front end and then the primary part is the forum (a vBulletin system). I you want to go in a similar direction with some forum software, opensource or commercial, on our own server in Australia controlled by the admins and no one else, then I can certainly help there as well as with any other plans you have.

Now if we could get www.syncro.com.au onboard and add the forum, that would be ideal.

Cheers, Uwe

On 30/10/2019 12:07 pm, Jon Bartlett mail@jaybe.net [Syncro_T3_Australia] wrote:

Hi Rowan,

Thanks for the efforts. For your and everyones information, I have successfully downloaded all historical messages, files and photos with the view to moving these to alternative forum soon. This is something that has been on the cards for a few years now as Yahoo have been making noises about closing Groups down for a while. I worked on getting this started a couple of years ago but life got in the way. Les and I spoke about this and Greg, Scott and Mark (current admins) have all been involved.

I will try and get something up and running soon. There may be a small yearly cost associated with running a new site so if anyone is looking to sponsor this or contribute, please let me know. Also if anyone would like to help out then please also shout out (may need some volunteers to help with testing).

Jon.

On 30 October 2019 at 9:14:06 am, Rowan Hardinge rowan.hardinge@yahoo.com [Syncro_T3_Australia] (syncro_t3_australia@yahoogroups.com) wrote:

Ok Guys,

Liam started downloading the files and Yahoo servers kicked him off after 700 messages. There is a lockout for 3 hours after each 700 messages of 56995 messages are downloaded so it may take several days to download them all that way.

I recommend following the instructions on groups.io for transfer which requires a Moderator to follow the steps diligently. Also it will cost for premium membership for one year to make it go smoothly $220

Again the Moderator needs to take the steps to save the group by following the steps outlined

below by Derek at https://groups.io/yahootransfer

It's not hard to set up a Go Fund Me page to raise the funds required.

Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone

On Tuesday, October 29, 2019, 12:17 pm, Rowan Hardinge <rowan.hardinge@yahoo..com> wrote:

Hi Derek,

My Nephew is working on the migration of all the files, photos and conversations to Groups.io

He is an IT professional works for ING Bank..

We are in good hands I believe and hope to have keys for our new forum soon

Kind regards,

On Tuesday, 29 October 2019, 03:41:55 am AEST, derekdrew@derekmail.com [Syncro_T3_Australia] <syncro_t3_australia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Yahoo Groups (the operator of this email list and resource) is partly shutting down today, Monday, October 28, 2019. As of this date, the website is scheduled to start becoming non-responsive and users will no longer be able to upload FILES to the FILES area. The incredible history of older emails, which probably represents a bazillion hours of advanced engineering, literally a priceless archive, will start to become inaccessible. An article about what is happening is here: https://lifehacker.com/how-to-save-and-migrate-your-yahoo-groups-data-before-i-1839172243

We will have a few more days to try to grab the contents of the group off the web so we can preserve the priceless resources buried in its history. The entire database is scheduled to be DELETED on December 14, 2019. However, 3^rd parties are asking that to save the data in the FILES sections and other data that submissions should be made by DECEMBER 1 or else data in the groups will be lost.

ADMINISTRATORS of the groups can port the data from their groups over by signing up with groups.io which is a website created by the founder of egroups, which is essentially the founding website for Yahoo Groups. Sign up here to get your transfer request in, and do it by December 1, 2019. There is some indication that the photos in the archives or FILES areas may already be going bad as I write.

If you are an administrator of this group and you can’t face this issue because you have moved on in life or have other pressing demands and can’t do it right away, I guess I will volunteer myself to help if you want. What you do is to add me (or some other trusted person) to be administrator of this group and that person can try to handle the transfer, following the instructions at Log In . If we cannot track down all the administrator of this and the related groups, it sounds like the only other option is for somebody to laboriously download the data themselves manually, which may be an impossible task. So it is with some urgency for us to waken the administrators who may have gone dormant. I have all the emails going back for all related groups to 1994 on my hard drive, but probably not in a form that is practical for me to restore to the community in a reasonable amount of time. Accordingly, there is some urgency for us to get the administrators going on this and to notify us publically that they are on the case.

Log In

If you are reading this and are of an independent sort, you can also try to protect yourself by going to the FILES area of some or all of the groups and try to download what is there onto your hard drive and then maybe we can find a venue online to re-upload the content. I noticed that there is also some other efforts to make export tools, such as on GITHUB.

Note that the email functionality of these groups will not stop working, but the web interface, and content search functionality will stop working and the FILES and PHOTOS will be deleted.

Related affected major groups with outstanding archives include the list below. Of these, I am administrator only of the first group, so I am going to try to groups.io/yahootransfer process now.

EZ30D

Ig_syncro16

limbolist

lowrheiner

subaru_vw_swaps

Subaru-Tech

subaruvanagon

Syncro

Syncro_T3_Australia

Syncro16

syncrolist

SyncroSA

SyncroSafari

SyncroWC

TDI-conversion

vanagon

Vanagon_Diesel

Vanagon-VAG-EngConv

Vanagon-Westfalia

vanagonzetec

VW_SYNCRO_QUEBEC

vwbusclub

vwbussyncro

wetwesties

wolfsburg_campers

Hi All,

Just a quick update on the forum migration. Uwe and I have had a good chat about this are in the process of getting something up and running. Watch this space.

Cheers,

Jon.

On Fri., 1 Nov. 2019, 12:40 Scott Pitcher spbconsulting@bigpond.com [Syncro_T3_Australia], <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Thanks Uwe.

I really appreciate your efforts.

Looking forward to this ASAP as the time between now and death of the old forum (with emails and photos) is fast approaching.

Cheers,

Scott

On 1/11/2019 8:45 am, 911Jack 911jack@gmail.com [Syncro_T3_Australia] wrote:

Scott,

They are great machines and their troubles can be overcome, the knowledge in the forum is a testament to that. Staying standalone and using www.syncro.com.au, it couldn't get any better, then again also going to a modern forum platform will be the icing, the whole experience should be a lot friendly and easier to use from any device.

It will bring a new way of doing things meaning a little bit of relearning, but moving as an addon to another forum would do the same.

Ready to help with the reboot when everyone is ready.

Uwe

On 31/10/2019 9:31 pm, Scott Pitcher spbconsulting@bigpond.com [Syncro_T3_Australia] wrote:

Uwe,

All of that sounds fantastic to me.

Jon has been great downloading all the data and photos but he is not set up to get a new format running and neither Greg nor I can.

I would much rather it be someone in the group directly that a friend or relative of the group and someone with the resources and time.

I would love if this stand alone syncro forum does continue.

The specific knowledge and interest in these awesome but troublesome vehicles is vital to us.

Cheers,

Scott

On 31/10/2019 9:40 am, 911Jack 911jack@gmail.com [Syncro_T3_Australia] wrote:

Hi Jon

I can help if needed, I've spoken to Greg about it before as well. IT and software development is my daily routine, I run online services and manage virtual servers for some clients amongst everything else.

I created and run the current setup for type901.org, this has a simple front end and then the primary part is the forum (a vBulletin system). I you want to go in a similar direction with some forum software, opensource or commercial, on our own server in Australia controlled by the admins and no one else, then I can certainly help there as well as with any other plans you have.

Now if we could get www.syncro.com.au onboard and add the forum, that would be ideal.

Cheers, Uwe

On 30/10/2019 12:07 pm, Jon Bartlett mail@jaybe.net [Syncro_T3_Australia] wrote:

Hi Rowan,

Thanks for the efforts. For your and everyones information, I have successfully downloaded all historical messages, files and photos with the view to moving these to alternative forum soon. This is something that has been on the cards for a few years now as Yahoo have been making noises about closing Groups down for a while. I worked on getting this started a couple of years ago but life got in the way. Les and I spoke about this and Greg, Scott and Mark (current admins) have all been involved.

I will try and get something up and running soon. There may be a small yearly cost associated with running a new site so if anyone is looking to sponsor this or contribute, please let me know. Also if anyone would like to help out then please also shout out (may need some volunteers to help with testing).

Jon.

On 30 October 2019 at 9:14:06 am, Rowan Hardinge rowan.hardinge@yahoo.com [Syncro_T3_Australia] (syncro_t3_australia@yahoogroups.com) wrote:

Ok Guys,

Liam started downloading the files and Yahoo servers kicked him off after 700 messages. There is a lockout for 3 hours after each 700 messages of 56995 messages are downloaded so it may take several days to download them all that way.

I recommend following the instructions on groups.io for transfer which requires a Moderator to follow the steps diligently. Also it will cost for premium membership for one year to make it go smoothly $220

Again the Moderator needs to take the steps to save the group by following the steps outlined

below by Derek at https://groups.io/yahootransfer

It's not hard to set up a Go Fund Me page to raise the funds required.

Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone

On Tuesday, October 29, 2019, 12:17 pm, Rowan Hardinge <rowan.hardinge@yahoo..com> wrote:

Hi Derek,

My Nephew is working on the migration of all the files, photos and conversations to Groups.io

He is an IT professional works for ING Bank..

We are in good hands I believe and hope to have keys for our new forum soon

Kind regards,

On Tuesday, 29 October 2019, 03:41:55 am AEST, derekdrew@derekmail.com [Syncro_T3_Australia] <syncro_t3_australia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Yahoo Groups (the operator of this email list and resource) is partly shutting down today, Monday, October 28, 2019. As of this date, the website is scheduled to start becoming non-responsive and users will no longer be able to upload FILES to the FILES area. The incredible history of older emails, which probably represents a bazillion hours of advanced engineering, literally a priceless archive, will start to become inaccessible. An article about what is happening is here: https://lifehacker.com/how-to-save-and-migrate-your-yahoo-groups-data-before-i-1839172243

We will have a few more days to try to grab the contents of the group off the web so we can preserve the priceless resources buried in its history. The entire database is scheduled to be DELETED on December 14, 2019. However, 3^rd parties are asking that to save the data in the FILES sections and other data that submissions should be made by DECEMBER 1 or else data in the groups will be lost.

ADMINISTRATORS of the groups can port the data from their groups over by signing up with groups.io which is a website created by the founder of egroups, which is essentially the founding website for Yahoo Groups. Sign up here to get your transfer request in, and do it by December 1, 2019. There is some indication that the photos in the archives or FILES areas may already be going bad as I write.

If you are an administrator of this group and you can’t face this issue because you have moved on in life or have other pressing demands and can’t do it right away, I guess I will volunteer myself to help if you want. What you do is to add me (or some other trusted person) to be administrator of this group and that person can try to handle the transfer, following the instructions at Log In . If we cannot track down all the administrator of this and the related groups, it sounds like the only other option is for somebody to laboriously download the data themselves manually, which may be an impossible task. So it is with some urgency for us to waken the administrators who may have gone dormant. I have all the emails going back for all related groups to 1994 on my hard drive, but probably not in a form that is practical for me to restore to the community in a reasonable amount of time. Accordingly, there is some urgency for us to get the administrators going on this and to notify us publically that they are on the case.

Log In

If you are reading this and are of an independent sort, you can also try to protect yourself by going to the FILES area of some or all of the groups and try to download what is there onto your hard drive and then maybe we can find a venue online to re-upload the content. I noticed that there is also some other efforts to make export tools, such as on GITHUB.

Note that the email functionality of these groups will not stop working, but the web interface, and content search functionality will stop working and the FILES and PHOTOS will be deleted.

Related affected major groups with outstanding archives include the list below. Of these, I am administrator only of the first group, so I am going to try to groups.io/yahootransfer process now.

EZ30D

Ig_syncro16

limbolist

lowrheiner

subaru_vw_swaps

Subaru-Tech

subaruvanagon

Syncro

Syncro_T3_Australia

Syncro16

syncrolist

SyncroSA

SyncroSafari

SyncroWC

TDI-conversion

vanagon

Vanagon_Diesel

Vanagon-VAG-EngConv

Vanagon-Westfalia

vanagonzetec

VW_SYNCRO_QUEBEC

vwbusclub

vwbussyncro

wetwesties

wolfsburg_campers

Hi Uwe,

Sounds good. I have some ideas on the forum side of things and made some progress on this.

Ping me your phone number and we can have a chat if you would like.

Jon

0424006192.

On Fri., 1 Nov. 2019, 08:45 911Jack 911jack@gmail.com [Syncro_T3_Australia], <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Scott,

They are great machines and their troubles can be overcome, the knowledge in the forum is a testament to that. Staying standalone and using www.syncro.com.au, it couldn't get any better, then again also going to a modern forum platform will be the icing, the whole experience should be a lot friendly and easier to use from any device.

It will bring a new way of doing things meaning a little bit of relearning, but moving as an addon to another forum would do the same.

Ready to help with the reboot when everyone is ready.

Uwe

On 31/10/2019 9:31 pm, Scott Pitcher spbconsulting@bigpond.com [Syncro_T3_Australia] wrote:

Uwe,

All of that sounds fantastic to me.

Jon has been great downloading all the data and photos but he is not set up to get a new format running and neither Greg nor I can.

I would much rather it be someone in the group directly that a friend or relative of the group and someone with the resources and time.

I would love if this stand alone syncro forum does continue.

The specific knowledge and interest in these awesome but troublesome vehicles is vital to us.

Cheers,

Scott

On 31/10/2019 9:40 am, 911Jack 911jack@gmail.com [Syncro_T3_Australia] wrote:

Hi Jon

I can help if needed, I've spoken to Greg about it before as well. IT and software development is my daily routine, I run online services and manage virtual servers for some clients amongst everything else.

I created and run the current setup for type901.org, this has a simple front end and then the primary part is the forum (a vBulletin system). I you want to go in a similar direction with some forum software, opensource or commercial, on our own server in Australia controlled by the admins and no one else, then I can certainly help there as well as with any other plans you have.

Now if we could get www.syncro.com.au onboard and add the forum, that would be ideal.

Cheers, Uwe

On 30/10/2019 12:07 pm, Jon Bartlett mail@jaybe.net [Syncro_T3_Australia] wrote:

Hi Rowan,

Thanks for the efforts. For your and everyones information, I have successfully downloaded all historical messages, files and photos with the view to moving these to alternative forum soon. This is something that has been on the cards for a few years now as Yahoo have been making noises about closing Groups down for a while. I worked on getting this started a couple of years ago but life got in the way. Les and I spoke about this and Greg, Scott and Mark (current admins) have all been involved.

I will try and get something up and running soon. There may be a small yearly cost associated with running a new site so if anyone is looking to sponsor this or contribute, please let me know. Also if anyone would like to help out then please also shout out (may need some volunteers to help with testing).

Jon.

On 30 October 2019 at 9:14:06 am, Rowan Hardinge rowan.hardinge@yahoo.com [Syncro_T3_Australia] (syncro_t3_australia@yahoogroups.com) wrote:

Ok Guys,

Liam started downloading the files and Yahoo servers kicked him off after 700 messages. There is a lockout for 3 hours after each 700 messages of 56995 messages are downloaded so it may take several days to download them all that way.

I recommend following the instructions on groups.io for transfer which requires a Moderator to follow the steps diligently. Also it will cost for premium membership for one year to make it go smoothly $220

Again the Moderator needs to take the steps to save the group by following the steps outlined

below by Derek at https://groups.io/yahootransfer

It's not hard to set up a Go Fund Me page to raise the funds required.

Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone

On Tuesday, October 29, 2019, 12:17 pm, Rowan Hardinge <rowan.hardinge@yahoo..com> wrote:

Hi Derek,

My Nephew is working on the migration of all the files, photos and conversations to Groups.io

He is an IT professional works for ING Bank..

We are in good hands I believe and hope to have keys for our new forum soon

Kind regards,

On Tuesday, 29 October 2019, 03:41:55 am AEST, derekdrew@derekmail.com [Syncro_T3_Australia] <syncro_t3_australia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Yahoo Groups (the operator of this email list and resource) is partly shutting down today, Monday, October 28, 2019. As of this date, the website is scheduled to start becoming non-responsive and users will no longer be able to upload FILES to the FILES area. The incredible history of older emails, which probably represents a bazillion hours of advanced engineering, literally a priceless archive, will start to become inaccessible. An article about what is happening is here: https://lifehacker.com/how-to-save-and-migrate-your-yahoo-groups-data-before-i-1839172243

We will have a few more days to try to grab the contents of the group off the web so we can preserve the priceless resources buried in its history. The entire database is scheduled to be DELETED on December 14, 2019. However, 3^rd parties are asking that to save the data in the FILES sections and other data that submissions should be made by DECEMBER 1 or else data in the groups will be lost.

ADMINISTRATORS of the groups can port the data from their groups over by signing up with groups.io which is a website created by the founder of egroups, which is essentially the founding website for Yahoo Groups. Sign up here to get your transfer request in, and do it by December 1, 2019. There is some indication that the photos in the archives or FILES areas may already be going bad as I write.

If you are an administrator of this group and you can’t face this issue because you have moved on in life or have other pressing demands and can’t do it right away, I guess I will volunteer myself to help if you want. What you do is to add me (or some other trusted person) to be administrator of this group and that person can try to handle the transfer, following the instructions at Log In . If we cannot track down all the administrator of this and the related groups, it sounds like the only other option is for somebody to laboriously download the data themselves manually, which may be an impossible task. So it is with some urgency for us to waken the administrators who may have gone dormant. I have all the emails going back for all related groups to 1994 on my hard drive, but probably not in a form that is practical for me to restore to the community in a reasonable amount of time. Accordingly, there is some urgency for us to get the administrators going on this and to notify us publically that they are on the case.

Log In

If you are reading this and are of an independent sort, you can also try to protect yourself by going to the FILES area of some or all of the groups and try to download what is there onto your hard drive and then maybe we can find a venue online to re-upload the content. I noticed that there is also some other efforts to make export tools, such as on GITHUB.

Note that the email functionality of these groups will not stop working, but the web interface, and content search functionality will stop working and the FILES and PHOTOS will be deleted.

Related affected major groups with outstanding archives include the list below. Of these, I am administrator only of the first group, so I am going to try to groups.io/yahootransfer process now.

EZ30D

Ig_syncro16

limbolist

lowrheiner

subaru_vw_swaps

Subaru-Tech

subaruvanagon

Syncro

Syncro_T3_Australia

Syncro16

syncrolist

SyncroSA

SyncroSafari

SyncroWC

TDI-conversion

vanagon

Vanagon_Diesel

Vanagon-VAG-EngConv

Vanagon-Westfalia

vanagonzetec

VW_SYNCRO_QUEBEC

vwbusclub

vwbussyncro

wetwesties

wolfsburg_campers

Hi Scott

The forum software is up and running as a shell, I just talked to Jon and he should be able to attempt a data load (from the yahoo group) sometime this week, and I need to finalize the email server side of things as well.

Once that is done we can trial/test it with a few members before going live.

Getting close, Uwe

Hi all,

Just checking on progress with this in this ridiculously busy time of year.

Thanks,

Scott

On 1/11/2019 11:24 am, Jon Bartlett mail@jaybe.net [Syncro_T3_Australia] wrote:

Hi Uwe,

Sounds good. I have some ideas on the forum side of things and made some progress on this.

Ping me your phone number and we can have a chat if you would like.

Jon

0424006192.

On Fri., 1 Nov. 2019, 08:45 911Jack 911jack@gmail.com [Syncro_T3_Australia], <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Scott,

They are great machines and their troubles can be overcome, the knowledge in the forum is a testament to that. Staying standalone and using www.syncro.com.au, it couldn't get any better, then again also going to a modern forum platform will be the icing, the whole experience should be a lot friendly and easier to use from any device.

It will bring a new way of doing things meaning a little bit of relearning, but moving as an addon to another forum would do the same.

Ready to help with the reboot when everyone is ready.

Uwe

On 31/10/2019 9:31 pm, Scott Pitcher spbconsulting@bigpond.com [Syncro_T3_Australia] wrote:

Uwe,

All of that sounds fantastic to me.

Jon has been great downloading all the data and photos but he is not set up to get a new format running and neither Greg nor I can.

I would much rather it be someone in the group directly that a friend or relative of the group and someone with the resources and time.

I would love if this stand alone syncro forum does continue.

The specific knowledge and interest in these awesome but troublesome vehicles is vital to us.

Cheers,

Scott

On 31/10/2019 9:40 am, 911Jack 911jack@gmail.com [Syncro_T3_Australia] wrote:

Hi Jon

I can help if needed, I've spoken to Greg about it before as well. IT and software development is my daily routine, I run online services and manage virtual servers for some clients amongst everything else.

I created and run the current setup for type901.org, this has a simple front end and then the primary part is the forum (a vBulletin system). I you want to go in a similar direction with some forum software, opensource or commercial, on our own server in Australia controlled by the admins and no one else, then I can certainly help there as well as with any other plans you have.

Now if we could get www.syncro.com.au onboard and add the forum, that would be ideal.

Cheers, Uwe

On 30/10/2019 12:07 pm, Jon Bartlett mail@jaybe.net [Syncro_T3_Australia] wrote:

Hi Rowan,

Thanks for the efforts. For your and everyones information, I have successfully downloaded all historical messages, files and photos with the view to moving these to alternative forum soon. This is something that has been on the cards for a few years now as Yahoo have been making noises about closing Groups down for a while. I worked on getting this started a couple of years ago but life got in the way. Les and I spoke about this and Greg, Scott and Mark (current admins) have all been involved.

I will try and get something up and running soon. There may be a small yearly cost associated with running a new site so if anyone is looking to sponsor this or contribute, please let me know. Also if anyone would like to help out then please also shout out (may need some volunteers to help with testing).

Jon.

On 30 October 2019 at 9:14:06 am, Rowan Hardinge rowan.hardinge@yahoo.com [Syncro_T3_Australia] (syncro_t3_australia@yahoogroups.com) wrote:

Ok Guys,

Liam started downloading the files and Yahoo servers kicked him off after 700 messages. There is a lockout for 3 hours after each 700 messages of 56995 messages are downloaded so it may take several days to download them all that way.

I recommend following the instructions on groups.io for transfer which requires a Moderator to follow the steps diligently. Also it will cost for premium membership for one year to make it go smoothly $220

Again the Moderator needs to take the steps to save the group by following the steps outlined

below by Derek at https://groups.io/yahootransfer

It's not hard to set up a Go Fund Me page to raise the funds required.

Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone

On Tuesday, October 29, 2019, 12:17 pm, Rowan Hardinge <rowan.hardinge@yahoo..com> wrote:

Hi Derek,

My Nephew is working on the migration of all the files, photos and conversations to Groups.io

He is an IT professional works for ING Bank..

We are in good hands I believe and hope to have keys for our new forum soon

Kind regards,

On Tuesday, 29 October 2019, 03:41:55 am AEST, derekdrew@derekmail.com [Syncro_T3_Australia] <syncro_t3_australia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Yahoo Groups (the operator of this email list and resource) is partly shutting down today, Monday, October 28, 2019. As of this date, the website is scheduled to start becoming non-responsive and users will no longer be able to upload FILES to the FILES area. The incredible history of older emails, which probably represents a bazillion hours of advanced engineering, literally a priceless archive, will start to become inaccessible. An article about what is happening is here: https://lifehacker.com/how-to-save-and-migrate-your-yahoo-groups-data-before-i-1839172243

We will have a few more days to try to grab the contents of the group off the web so we can preserve the priceless resources buried in its history. The entire database is scheduled to be DELETED on December 14, 2019. However, 3^rd parties are asking that to save the data in the FILES sections and other data that submissions should be made by DECEMBER 1 or else data in the groups will be lost.

ADMINISTRATORS of the groups can port the data from their groups over by signing up with groups.io which is a website created by the founder of egroups, which is essentially the founding website for Yahoo Groups. Sign up here to get your transfer request in, and do it by December 1, 2019. There is some indication that the photos in the archives or FILES areas may already be going bad as I write.

If you are an administrator of this group and you can’t face this issue because you have moved on in life or have other pressing demands and can’t do it right away, I guess I will volunteer myself to help if you want. What you do is to add me (or some other trusted person) to be administrator of this group and that person can try to handle the transfer, following the instructions at Log In . If we cannot track down all the administrator of this and the related groups, it sounds like the only other option is for somebody to laboriously download the data themselves manually, which may be an impossible task. So it is with some urgency for us to waken the administrators who may have gone dormant. I have all the emails going back for all related groups to 1994 on my hard drive, but probably not in a form that is practical for me to restore to the community in a reasonable amount of time. Accordingly, there is some urgency for us to get the administrators going on this and to notify us publically that they are on the case.

Log In

If you are reading this and are of an independent sort, you can also try to protect yourself by going to the FILES area of some or all of the groups and try to download what is there onto your hard drive and then maybe we can find a venue online to re-upload the content. I noticed that there is also some other efforts to make export tools, such as on GITHUB.

Note that the email functionality of these groups will not stop working, but the web interface, and content search functionality will stop working and the FILES and PHOTOS will be deleted.

Related affected major groups with outstanding archives include the list below. Of these, I am administrator only of the first group, so I am going to try to groups.io/yahootransfer process now.

EZ30D

Ig_syncro16

limbolist

lowrheiner

subaru_vw_swaps

Subaru-Tech

subaruvanagon

Syncro

Syncro_T3_Australia

Syncro16

syncrolist

SyncroSA

SyncroSafari

SyncroWC

TDI-conversion

vanagon

Vanagon_Diesel

Vanagon-VAG-EngConv

Vanagon-Westfalia

vanagonzetec

VW_SYNCRO_QUEBEC

vwbusclub

vwbussyncro

wetwesties

wolfsburg_campers