NSW Rip Off

61
Hart,
 
Thanks for that.
 
See you @ the Nationals. Less than 2 weeks now!
 
Cheers,

Scott
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 6:57 AM
Subject: RE: RE: RE: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] NSW Rip Off

 

Scott,will order and bring you one Hart From: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com [mailto:Syncro_ T3_Australia@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Mr Scott Pitcher Sent: Wednesday, 12 May 2010 8:55 PM To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: RE: RE: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] NSW Rip Off Hart, Are you referring to the blue coloured diff lock vacuum actuator that goes on the rear diff? If so - I'm in for one mines as crooked as a dogs.... Thanks, Scott ----- Original Message ----- From: Hartmut Kiehn To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 7:44 PM Subject: RE: RE: RE: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] NSW Rip Off Hi Phill, Today I picked up a diff lock control element, which VW calls Element, Throttle Control T2 , I paid $ 90 (trade) Anybody who wants one, I could get it and bring it down to the Nats with me. There are 11 available. Also I tried to get a few of those slotted pins but must have had the wrong #s could you kindly give it to me again? Much appreciated, and see you (very) soon, Hart From: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com [mailto:Syncro_ T3_Australia@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of plander@optusnet. com.au Sent: Tuesday, 11 May 2010 6:26 AM To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: RE: RE: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] NSW Rip Off Did you hear about the driver waiting at a red light when a fire engine with siren and lights came up behind him. He then checked that it was clear and went through the red light to allow the fire engine to proceed as required by law. Unfortunately it had a camera and he was booked. He took it to court and the judge said that he did the right thing. The RTA said that he went through a red light and took points from his licence, which he then lost. The court has no authority over the RTA. > Hartmut Kiehn > wrote: > > Not only RTA , Phill, the same stands for CASA and also DoCS who are > prosecutors and judges, all in one. Hart > > > > From: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com > [mailto:Syncro_ T3_Australia@ yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of > plander@optusnet. com.au > Sent: Monday, 10 May 2010 8:35 PM > To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com > Subject: Re: RE: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] NSW Rip Off > > > > > > > speak with > > people who understand the relevant pieces of legislation. > > > > Nobody understands NSW legislation. Ask two people and you'll get two > answers. > > From a state where a court will let you off but the RTA finds you guilty > and > you cannot appeal.

62

This *new* format of receiving messages throws me of the rails. If this stays like it is  I will give it a miss and will poss start restoring the RED, maybe not bad after all.......No , Les, the roll pin is fine but the Gullyraker Handle Version intrigues me no end and, I am sure Skott,  too, saves him  the trouble to start up the compressor............. Hart

 

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Les Harris
Sent: Thursday, 13 May 2010 12:59 PM
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Roll Pin

 

 

Hartmut, You have lost me. What is it that is bull shit - the roll pin or the new format? Les

63

OK, I find that the new Yahoo reply function mess can be avoided…..by chopping off the unwanted parts, or all of it.  My last post re Roll Pins shows that both the Attach and the Insert functions still work as they did before.  I used both functions and the email came through with both.

Les

 

_,___

64
Les,
 
Everything with this new format is just like one long sentence - kind of like being married.
 
Cheers,
 
Scott
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Les Harris
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 9:16 AM
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Roll Pin

 

OMIG!! It looks like Yahoo has introduced another "improvement" . Is everyone getting their replies rolled into the previous correspondence? Les _____ From: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com [mailto:Syncro_ T3_Australia@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Les Harris Sent: 13 May 2010 09:01 To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Roll Pin I haven't been following this but if the part under discussion is the pin used to secure the diff lock vacuum actuator to the lock yoke, it is a standard commercial part and is available from bearing suppliers. The name used in Australia is "roll pin". The 3mm diameter is a standard commercial size. I have bought them previously, can't remember which bearing supplier it was. Les _____ From: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com [mailto:Syncro_ T3_Australia@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of plander@optusnet. com.au Sent: 12 May 2010 19:59 To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] NSW Rip Off Hartmut, On ETKA Illustration 71-00 the part that I think that you are referring to is 27. This is part number N 013 294 2 Spring sleeve 3 x 10 There is also another part number listed which is not illustrated N 013 325 1 Spring sleeve 3 x 14 Do those measurements sound correct? You will see on your ETKA page what I am talking about. Phill

65
Les,

I am just getting blank emails?

I can only read via the Yahoo pages and your roll pin jpg was not displayed.

Phill

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Les Harris" <leslieharris@...> wrote:
>
> OK, I find that the new Yahoo reply function mess can be avoided...by
> chopping off the unwanted parts, or all of it. My last post re Roll Pins
> shows that both the Attach and the Insert functions still work as they did
> before. I used both functions and the email came through with both.
>
> Les
>
>
>
> _,___
>
66

Phill,

Yahoo persists with two entirely different formats.  One is the direct email function, which shows the attachments. The other is reading posts from the Yahoo page, which doesn’t.  Why?  GOK!

Les

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of hdvwoc
Sent: 13 May 2010 13:25
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: New Yahoo Format

Les,

I am just getting blank emails?

I can only read via the Yahoo pages and your roll pin jpg was not displayed.

Phill

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Les Harris" <leslieharris@...> wrote:

>
> OK, I find that the new Yahoo reply function mess can be avoided...by
> chopping off the unwanted parts, or all of it. My last post re Roll Pins
> shows that both the Attach and the Insert functions still work as they did
> before. I used both functions and the email came through with both.
>
> Les
>
>
>
> _,___
>

67
Les,

I am not getting text in my email.

I am not getting the attachment anywhere.

Phill





--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Les Harris" <leslieharris@...> wrote:
>
> Phill,
>
> Yahoo persists with two entirely different formats. One is the direct email
> function, which shows the attachments. The other is reading posts from the
> Yahoo page, which doesn't. Why? GOK!
>
> Les
>
> _____
>
> From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of hdvwoc
> Sent: 13 May 2010 13:25
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: New Yahoo Format
>
> Les,
>
> I am just getting blank emails?
>
> I can only read via the Yahoo pages and your roll pin jpg was not displayed.
>
> Phill
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com> , "Les Harris"
> <leslieharris@> wrote:
> >
> > OK, I find that the new Yahoo reply function mess can be avoided...by
> > chopping off the unwanted parts, or all of it. My last post re Roll Pins
> > shows that both the Attach and the Insert functions still work as they did
> > before. I used both functions and the email came through with both.
> >
> > Les
> >
> >
> >
> > _,___
> >
>
68

Phill,

Have you upset Yahoo lately?

Seriously, we are all getting a new format in which all the previous posts to an particular thread are rolled into one with no line breaks.  It’s the most awful mess and I haven’t yet found anything on Yahoo about it.

If you are not getting any text in your emails, it might be in your own email server setting or, infinitely worse, a clash between your email server and Yahoo.

Your email setting on the membership list is set to “Fully Featured”, which should let everything through.

Les

 

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of hdvwoc
Sent: 13 May 2010 13:35
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: New Yahoo Format

 

 

Les,

I am not getting text in my email.

I am not getting the attachment anywhere.

Phill

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Les Harris" <leslieharris@...> wrote:

>
> Phill,
>
> Yahoo persists with two entirely different formats. One is the direct
email
> function, which shows the attachments. The other is reading posts from the
> Yahoo page, which doesn't. Why? GOK!
>
> Les
>
> _____
>
> From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of hdvwoc
> Sent: 13 May 2010 13:25
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: New Yahoo Format
>
> Les,
>
> I am just getting blank emails?
>
> I can only read via the Yahoo pages and your roll pin jpg was not
displayed.
>
> Phill
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com> , "Les
Harris"
> <leslieharris@> wrote:
> >
> > OK, I find that the new Yahoo reply function mess can be avoided...by
> > chopping off the unwanted parts, or all of it. My last post re Roll
Pins
> > shows that both the Attach and the Insert functions still work as
they did
> > before. I used both functions and the email came through with both.
> >
> > Les
> >
> >
> >
> > _,___
> >
>

69
It only started today after Hart's post.

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Les Harris" <leslieharris@...> wrote:
>
> Phill,
>
> Have you upset Yahoo lately?
>
> Seriously, we are all getting a new format in which all the previous posts
> to an particular thread are rolled into one with no line breaks. It's the
> most awful mess and I haven't yet found anything on Yahoo about it.
>
> If you are not getting any text in your emails, it might be in your own
> email server setting or, infinitely worse, a clash between your email server
> and Yahoo.
>
> Your email setting on the membership list is set to "Fully Featured", which
> should let everything through.
>
> Les
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of hdvwoc
> Sent: 13 May 2010 13:35
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: New Yahoo Format
>
>
>
>
>
> Les,
>
> I am not getting text in my email.
>
> I am not getting the attachment anywhere.
>
> Phill
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com> , "Les Harris"
> <leslieharris@> wrote:
> >
> > Phill,
> >
> > Yahoo persists with two entirely different formats. One is the direct
> email
> > function, which shows the attachments. The other is reading posts from the
> > Yahoo page, which doesn't. Why? GOK!
> >
> > Les
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com>
> > [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of hdvwoc
> > Sent: 13 May 2010 13:25
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: New Yahoo Format
> >
> > Les,
> >
> > I am just getting blank emails?
> >
> > I can only read via the Yahoo pages and your roll pin jpg was not
> displayed.
> >
> > Phill
> >
> > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com> , "Les Harris"
> > <leslieharris@> wrote:
> > >
> > > OK, I find that the new Yahoo reply function mess can be avoided...by
> > > chopping off the unwanted parts, or all of it. My last post re Roll Pins
> > > shows that both the Attach and the Insert functions still work as they
> did
> > > before. I used both functions and the email came through with both.
> > >
> > > Les
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _,___
> > >
> >
>
70

Oh crikey!  That’s even worse!  He is probably performing one of those rituals common to the area where he is now living – dancing naked around bonfires, wax dolls and pins…  Maybe he got your effigy mixed up with mine.

Well, that makes it the more mysterious.  Let me think about it for a while. 

Are you getting direct emails from the group?  If you are, you should be getting all text and attachments.  If not, I’m stumped!

Les

71
> Are you getting direct emails from the group? If you are, you should be
> getting all text and attachments.


Yes but everything is blank, no text or attachments and when I return to my email page it does not register as read. All other email is OK.
72
It looks like some formatting problem as I can read the html code in "message source".

Maybe Yahoo changed something and my computer doesn't recognise it.

I'll have to get the wife onto it if it persists.



> Les Harris <leslieharris@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>
73
That means it must be Hart's fault then for your non text problem Phill.
 
He he he.
 
Cheers,
 
Scott
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: hdvwoc
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 1:52 PM
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: New Yahoo Format

 

It only started today after Hart's post.

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Les Harris" <leslieharris@...> wrote:
>
> Phill,
>
> Have you upset Yahoo lately?
>
> Seriously, we are all getting a new format in which all the previous posts
> to an particular thread are rolled into one with no line breaks. It's the
> most awful mess and I haven't yet found anything on Yahoo about it.
>
> If you are not getting any text in your emails, it might be in your own
> email server setting or, infinitely worse, a clash between your email server
> and Yahoo.
>
> Your email setting on the membership list is set to "Fully Featured", which
> should let everything through.
>
> Les
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of hdvwoc
> Sent: 13 May 2010 13:35
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: New Yahoo Format
>
>
>
>
>
> Les,
>
> I am not getting text in my email.
>
> I am not getting the attachment anywhere.
>
> Phill
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com> , "Les Harris"
> <leslieharris@> wrote:
> >
> > Phill,
> >
> > Yahoo persists with two entirely different formats. One is the direct
> email
> > function, which shows the attachments. The other is reading posts from the
> > Yahoo page, which doesn't. Why? GOK!
> >
> > Les
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com>
> > [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of hdvwoc
> > Sent: 13 May 2010 13:25
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: New Yahoo Format
> >
> > Les,
> >
> > I am just getting blank emails?
> >
> > I can only read via the Yahoo pages and your roll pin jpg was not
> displayed.
> >
> > Phill
> >
> > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com> , "Les Harris"
> > <leslieharris@> wrote:
> > >
> > > OK, I find that the new Yahoo reply function mess can be avoided...by
> > > chopping off the unwanted parts, or all of it. My last post re Roll Pins
> > > shows that both the Attach and the Insert functions still work as they
> did
> > > before. I used both functions and the email came through with both.
> > >
> > > Les
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _,___
> > >
> >
>

74

It’s HART, must be after all,  he lost the war, only lately when sweeping the hangar floor, a club member walked in  and in passing mentioned *good on ya –after all you lost the war*  .........without stopping sweeping  I  said to him  * You are wrong there, we never lost the war , we only came second !

Want to say, keep on blaming Hart he can take it he IS weird most of the day................. I love all you gals and guys out there and hope that I can meet as many as poss in person sooner or later

And a big THANK YOU to LES for making me buy a laptop.........  Hart---hartis (by BenT : Home is where the heart is) --- Hartmut

 

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of hdvwoc
Sent: Thursday, 13 May 2010 1:53 PM
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: New Yahoo Format

 

 

It only started today after Hart's post.

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Les Harris" <leslieharris@...> wrote:

>
> Phill,
>
> Have you upset Yahoo lately?
>
> Seriously, we are all getting a new format in which all the previous posts
> to an particular thread are rolled into one with no line breaks. It's the
> most awful mess and I haven't yet found anything on Yahoo about it.
>
> If you are not getting any text in your emails, it might be in your own
> email server setting or, infinitely worse, a clash between your email
server
> and Yahoo.
>
> Your email setting on the membership list is set to "Fully
Featured", which
> should let everything through.
>
> Les
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of hdvwoc
> Sent: 13 May 2010 13:35
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: New Yahoo Format
>
>
>
>
>
> Les,
>
> I am not getting text in my email.
>
> I am not getting the attachment anywhere.
>
> Phill
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com> , "Les
Harris"
> <leslieharris@> wrote:
> >
> > Phill,
> >
> > Yahoo persists with two entirely different formats. One is the direct
> email
> > function, which shows the attachments. The other is reading posts
from the
> > Yahoo page, which doesn't. Why? GOK!
> >
> > Les
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com>
> > [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of hdvwoc
> > Sent: 13 May 2010 13:25
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: New Yahoo Format
> >
> > Les,
> >
> > I am just getting blank emails?
> >
> > I can only read via the Yahoo pages and your roll pin jpg was not
> displayed.
> >
> > Phill
> >
> > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com> , "Les
Harris"
> > <leslieharris@> wrote:
> > >
> > > OK, I find that the new Yahoo reply function mess can be
avoided...by
> > > chopping off the unwanted parts, or all of it. My last post re
Roll Pins
> > > shows that both the Attach and the Insert functions still work
as they
> did
> > > before. I used both functions and the email came through with
both.
> > >
> > > Les
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _,___
> > >
> >
>

75

Gentlemen. I feel compelled to complete the story of the saga with the RTA. I finally got hold of the owner of Suncamper the day before I was booked in to get an Engineers certificate. He had just returned from overseas. His name is Keith Harrison and he bought the company on 1 April 1989. Still owns it. My Syncro was first registered on 1 March 1989. We had a good chat about the RTA (expletives deleted) and I told him about my hassles. I asked did he have any paperwork and of course the answer was no. He told me all about the modern practice of secondary compliance. Back in 1989 he remembers the previous owners had some sort of approval that he continued using for a few years. He suggested I have a look behind the curtains on the drivers side B pillar. Imagine my excitement when I found a sticker with a DMT approval number!!!!!! I have attached a photo.

 

I stood over my Blue Slip man while he rang the Sydney RTA that afternoon and he got the go ahead. Saved myself $650, phew. Lucky though that it was done in NSW as he had a similar problem with a QLD camper which had  QLD engineering approval and they would not accept that. Luckily mine was done in NSW before the Syncro was sent to Vic.

 

After parting with $1200 for Rego, plates and stamp duty etc, I now have lovely NSW slim line plates.

 

If you recall there was also the issue of whether it had factory air conditioning. Keith said that at this time he recalls they left Germany without it (hence no M number on the plate) but it was a factory supplied unit, installed in Sydney. This was, and still is a common practice. If you order a Ford Focus with a factory sun roof, the sun roof was most likely installed in Australia. So in my case. You could argue it has factory air conditioning. Perhaps a discussion point for the future. Hart recalls that a guy who worked next to his office in Brookvale did this sort of work on new cars every day.

 

That’s all for now, Regards, Peter.

 

PS. When I got home after getting this good news I sold my T3 for a very good price. The planets must have been aligned last Wednesday.

 

 

 

 

 

76
Good work! A win for the little guy.

I haven't seen factory air on a camper before, only the aircraft style. Usually if you ordered factory air here your van would be sent to Autofrost or the other dodgy company and they would cut a hole in your dash with a chainsaw.

Phill



> Peter Coe <peter@coeconsult.com.au> wrote:
>
> Gentlemen. I feel compelled to complete the story of the saga with the
> RTA.
> I finally got hold of the owner of Suncamper the day before I was booked
> in
> to get an Engineers certificate. He had just returned from overseas. His
> name is Keith Harrison and he bought the company on 1 April 1989. Still
> owns
> it. My Syncro was first registered on 1 March 1989. We had a good chat
> about
> the RTA (expletives deleted) and I told him about my hassles. I asked
> did he
> have any paperwork and of course the answer was no. He told me all about
> the
> modern practice of secondary compliance. Back in 1989 he remembers the
> previous owners had some sort of approval that he continued using for a
> few
> years. He suggested I have a look behind the curtains on the drivers
> side B
> pillar. Imagine my excitement when I found a sticker with a DMT approval
> number!!!!!! I have attached a photo.
>
> I stood over my Blue Slip man while he rang the Sydney RTA that
> afternoon
> and he got the go ahead. Saved myself $650, phew. Lucky though that it
> was
> done in NSW as he had a similar problem with a QLD camper which had QLD
> engineering approval and they would not accept that. Luckily mine was
> done
> in NSW before the Syncro was sent to Vic.
>
> After parting with $1200 for Rego, plates and stamp duty etc, I now have
> lovely NSW slim line plates.
>
> If you recall there was also the issue of whether it had factory air
> conditioning. Keith said that at this time he recalls they left Germany
> without it (hence no M number on the plate) but it was a factory
> supplied
> unit, installed in Sydney. This was, and still is a common practice. If
> you
> order a Ford Focus with a factory sun roof, the sun roof was most likely
> installed in Australia. So in my case. You could argue it has factory
> air
> conditioning. Perhaps a discussion point for the future. Hart recalls
> that a
> guy who worked next to his office in Brookvale did this sort of work on
> new
> cars every day.
>
> That's all for now, Regards, Peter.
>
> PS. When I got home after getting this good news I sold my T3 for a very
> good price. The planets must have been aligned last Wednesday.
>
>
>
>
>
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Well done, Peter. A very satisfying conclusion to a frustrating experience: the little man triumphs over the faceless bureaucracy. Hope this bodes well for your future in Syncros.

Francesca.

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Peter Coe <peter@coeconsult.com.au> wrote:

Gentlemen. I feel compelled to complete the story of the saga with the RTA. I finally got hold of the owner of Suncamper the day before I was booked in to get an Engineers certificate. He had just returned from overseas. His name is Keith Harrison and he bought the company on 1 April 1989. Still owns it. My Syncro was first registered on 1 March 1989. We had a good chat about the RTA (expletives deleted) and I told him about my hassles. I asked did he have any paperwork and of course the answer was no. He told me all about the modern practice of secondary compliance. Back in 1989 he remembers the previous owners had some sort of approval that he continued using for a few years. He suggested I have a look behind the curtains on the drivers side B pillar. Imagine my excitement when I found a sticker with a DMT approval number!!!!!! I have attached a photo.

I stood over my Blue Slip man while he rang the Sydney RTA that afternoon and he got the go ahead. Saved myself $650, phew. Lucky though that it was done in NSW as he had a similar problem with a QLD camper which had QLD engineering approval and they would not accept that. Luckily mine was done in NSW before the Syncro was sent to Vic.

After parting with $1200 for Rego, plates and stamp duty etc, I now have lovely NSW slim line plates.

If you recall there was also the issue of whether it had factory air conditioning. Keith said that at this time he recalls they left Germany without it (hence no M number on the plate) but it was a factory supplied unit, installed in Sydney. This was, and still is a common practice. If you order a Ford Focus with a factory sun roof, the sun roof was most likely installed in Australia. So in my case. You could argue it has factory air conditioning. Perhaps a discussion point for the future. Hart recalls that a guy who worked next to his office in Brookvale did this sort of work on new cars every day.

That’s all for now, Regards, Peter.

PS. When I got home after getting this good news I sold my T3 for a very good price. The planets must have been aligned last Wednesday.


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….and my apologies Francesca for not addressing my little story to “Ladies” and Gentlemen!!!!

 

Peter

 

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There is a nicely installed vent in the dashboard that matches the rest ,so I can only assume that in 1989 a proper tradesman did it, not dodgy brothers!!!

 

My T3 had the after market prestige air con put in by Trakka and it looked after market!!!!

 

Peter

 

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Peter,
A salutary real life lesson indeed concerning the pitfalls of requiring engineering/blue slip compliance for whatever reasons, in particular for interstate purchases. Certainly a real win win finding the sticker eh. Begs the question ... what price a (removable) sticker??!! Guard it with your life!!
 
So given your real life scenario dealing with gods gift to NSW .... the RTA, should my syncro not get buried with me, then the subsequent owner best be from NSW. For my Trakka syncro, I hold zero compliance evidence from Trakka, neither in documentary or sticker forms. I assume they have been lost/removed during prior ownerships. Seeking Trakka assistance now would be futile.
 
For Trakka vans, it would be interesting to compare what level of vehicle detail is notated on the vehicles official Certificate of Registration. For example, on my Rego Certificate, there are NO notations concerning vehicle Model, Variant, GVM, GCN, Seating Capacity nor Axle Code. Maybe this demonstrates the RTA's efficiency/attention to detail?
 
Cheers.
Ken
 
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: peter@coeconsult.com.au
Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 12:52:09 +1000
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] NSW Rip Off

 

Gentlemen. I feel compelled to complete the story of the saga with the RTA. I finally got hold of the owner of Suncamper the day before I was booked in to get an Engineers certificate. He had just returned from overseas. His name is Keith Harrison and he bought the company on 1 April 1989. Still owns it. My Syncro was first registered on 1 March 1989. We had a good chat about the RTA (expletives deleted) and I told him about my hassles. I asked did he have any paperwork and of course the answer was no. He told me all about the modern practice of secondary compliance. Back in 1989 he remembers the previous owners had some sort of approval that he continued using for a few years. He suggested I have a look behind the curtains on the drivers side B pillar. Imagine my excitement when I found a sticker with a DMT approval number!!!!!! I have attached a photo.

 

I stood over my Blue Slip man while he rang the Sydney RTA that afternoon and he got the go ahead. Saved myself $650, phew. Lucky though that it was done in NSW as he had a similar problem with a QLD camper which had  QLD engineering approval and they would not accept that. Luckily mine was done in NSW before the Syncro was sent to Vic.

 

After parting with $1200 for Rego, plates and stamp duty etc, I now have lovely NSW slim line plates.

 

If you recall there was also the issue of whether it had factory air conditioning. Keith said that at this time he recalls they left Germany without it (hence no M number on the plate) but it was a factory supplied unit, installed in Sydney. This was, and still is a common practice. If you order a Ford Focus with a factory sun roof, the sun roof was most likely installed in Australia. So in my case. You could argue it has factory air conditioning. Perhaps a discussion point for the future. Hart recalls that a guy who worked next to his office in Brookvale did this sort of work on new cars every day.

 

That’s all for now, Regards, Peter.

 

PS. When I got home after getting this good news I sold my T3 for a very good price. The planets must have been aligned last Wednesday.

 

 

 

 

 



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