In NSW you cannot register it as a motorhome if it has been registered as a van previously.
I really doubt if many people here have certificates.
I really doubt if many people here have certificates.
> 911Jack <911jack@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Just had that experience a few weeks ago, my brother bought a Discoverer
>
> T3 syncro that was factory converted years ago in NSW and was out of
> registration by 6 months in VIC. We didn't think there would be any
> issue with VicRoads to get it registered but as the vehicle had to be
> presented for inspection, they had no record of an engineer's
> certificate and therefore it was not classed as motorhome and needed all
>
> the certificates, electrical, gas and engineer's VASS.
>
> So it might not create an immediate problem (legalities aside) if you
> own the car and its registered but somewhere down the track a new owner
> will get a nasty little surprise.
>
> plander@optusnet.com.au wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Do you really need an engineer's certificate?
> >
> > Who knows when the conversion was done?
> >
> > What year were engineer's certificate mandatory?
> >
> > > Mr Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@bigpond.com
> > <mailto:spbconsulting%40bigpond.com>> wrote:
> > >
> > > Erik,
> > >
> > > I am still in the process of try to get that - he has promised it to
> me
> > > but said my claim with the DFT is stalling its release.
> > >
> > > Shouldn't be long now though - hopefully get it sorted pre
> Christmas.
> > >
> > > Yep that's my Syncro on Aussieveedubbers.
> > >
> > > It was the engineers certificate that had me have someone do the
> > > conversion rather than a DIY job - plus I really like the
> Discoverer/
> > > Camperize roof design - very curved and not too bulky. It seems to
> add
> > > to the cars looks rather than detract from it.
> > >
> > > Colour coding the roof makes for a professional looking job. That
> and a
> > > good trimmer for the headliner may get you the certificate you need.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Scott
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: erik h
> > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:30 PM
> > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: poptop conversion
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com>, "Mr Scott Pitcher"
> > > <spbconsulting@...> wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> > > Hey Les,
> > >
> > > Do you have any pictures I can look at of your camper interior.
> Doing
> > > a camper conversion myself and hunting for ideas. Won't be able to
> > go to
> > > oldbar unfortunately:( would be great to see what people have done
> with
> > > their campers.
> > >
> > > Regarding the poptop conversions I have been in the process of
> > > installing a sunliner roof on my syncro and chose not to remove the
> > > middle safety cell.
> > >
> > > The tin roof is glued to the beam with rubber cement and can be
> pulled
> > > off leaving just the beam. I rust treated,primed painted the entire
> > > roof. In particular the edging where I'd cut the roof as these spots
>
> > are
> > > often left as bare metal when pro's do it. By chopping a small
> section
> > > of the fibre glass the width of the center beam and about 3cms high
> it
> > > allows the poptop to drop down fully and the beam is not disturbed.
> > >
> > > Bed boards are still usable and the beam does not limit the roaming
> > > space as it is above the rear seat where standing up isn't possible
> > > anyway. The downside is I am going to have a hard time getting a
> home
> > > conversion approved no matter how good it's done.
> > >
> > > Scott, you had pictures of your poptop conversion on
> aussieveedubbers
> > > right? I remember asking you about it whilst it was in progress.
> Looks
> > > like a mint conversion. Wasn't there talk of obtaining the mould
> from
> > > discoverer campers at one stage?
> > >
> > > erik
> > >
> > > > Les,
> > > >
> > > > My conversion is a Discoverer or Camperize conversion which does
> not
> > > cut out the front safety cell nor the rear roof strut only the
> central
> > > strut leaving the roof fairly structurally stable - not as stable as
> a
> > > tin-top version but probably the next best thing.
> > > >
> > > > It is the same design as those pop-top roofs fitted to Marks
> syncro
> > > and Rudi's syncro.
> > > >
> > > > Unfortunately only 3 weeks after I picked mine up Discoverer
> (Owned
> > > then by Tyson's) went into insolvency without providing my roof
> bunks
> > > and my engineers certificate.
> > > >
> > > > The NSW Fair Trading Department has a compensation fund to cover
> > > this but they are being painful and now want me to do a stat dec
> about
> > > the issue signed by a JP. I don't know any JP's but I am sure I can
> > find
> > > one locally.
> > > >
> > > > In speaking to the guy from the Fair Trading Department he said
> the
> > > work would be approved when I get this done but that was just his
> words
> > > - I like things in writing.
> > > >
> > > > I only want "All-Vans" to do it as they can match the velour
> lining
> > > installed with the roof conversion. They will be using plywood again
> -
> > > 18mm I think.
> > > >
> > > > I will see how I like it when done before re-making it to a system
> > > similar to you - I only plan to put my daughters up there and they
> > are 6
> > > & 2 - and a combined weight of 36kgs. Thus I have a few years yet
> > before
> > > I will need to up the weight requirement for the bunk.
> > > >
> > > > Also have you got a ladder system to get up there or just let
> those
> > > willing to climb up the cupboards?
> > > >
> > > > That will be my other thing as I don't yet have my fridge cupboard
> > > back in.
> > > >
> > > > My eldest is very keen to get up there for a trial run.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > >
> > > > Scott
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Les_Harris
> > > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 2:43 PM
> > > > Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Old Bar
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Scott,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > One of the most consistent enquiries I have had since starting
> this
> > > group five years ago is about camping conversions. I would be
> > interested
> > > to know details about the camping conversion to help keep myself up
> to
> > > date on the little that is now available for the T3.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Apropos of bed boards, most conversions came with a couple of
> flimsy
> > > sheets of ply for the upstairs bunk. The few manufacturers who made
> > > information available for the bunk would rate them as 75 kg capacity
> -
> > > enough for one slimmish adult or two average kids.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I drove a pop top T2 for donkeys and discarded the ply boards at a
> > > very early stage. Apart from the load factor, there was a problem
> with
> > > condensation when being used as we did - on the road for several
> weeks
> > > at a time, both summer and winter. My standard upstairs bed now uses
> > > hardwood slats that will hold an elephant by comparison but retain
> some
> > > springiness and permanently removes the condensation problem. This
> > has a
> > > further advantage in that the slats can be made to stand on edge and
> > > slid back to create a lot of headroom. My bunk is 2080 mm long but
> > > concertinas to 480 mm when stowed. (I have a Trakka pop top, which
> was
> > > fitted to the new vehicle and delivered as a fully featured camper.)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > So please fill me in on your conversion and also let me know how
> the
> > > Department of Fair Trading gets to have a say in the matter.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Les
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----------------------------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Mr Scott
> > > Pitcher
> > > > Sent: 29 September 2009 14:03
> > > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Old Bar
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > We are staying @ Manning Point at this stage as we still need a
> > > Cabin (bunk boards are still with the Department of Fair Trading as
> is
> > > the engineers certificate for the roof conversion).
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > We are also saving for one of those Just Campers driveaway awning
> > > tents which we have seen used at a few shows so that we can
> declutter
> > > the syncro during jaunts around the place. They are about
> $600.00AUD.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Manning Point is about 20kms North. Hence we will be down as much
> as
> > > we can.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > See you all very soon.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > We are going Friday now to avoid the parking lot we call a free
> way.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Scott
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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